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bought, the buyer of twitter, who, as we know, now bought it with the money of people close to the russian oligarchs, they lent him money, peter aven's son lent him money, avin himself is known to be close to putin, here's the whole story, and alisher usmanov, a person close to putin, gave money to the fool, so this is really true political madness. not a medical diagnosis, but a political diagnosis, and it is necessary to simply return to common sense, andriy, not only in the ukrainian verkhovna rada, the ukrainian verkhovna rada, among other parliaments civilized countries of the world, the protection of freedom of speech is the protection of freedom of truth, again, i repeat, i have not finished this opinion, cnn and fox news may have completely different interpretations of the storming of the capitol. and this is absolutely
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logical in a situation where there are various television or media platforms, but neither cnn nor fox news will hide from their viewers the actual storming of the capitol, and russian television, let's say, is engaged in the fact that it hides the facts from those who watch it , and that's what anonymous channels are doing telegram, they hide facts and invent facts, and in this way they plunge people into complete darkness without... and when you and i read such channels, we are professional journalists, we know how to analyze information, we understand how anonymous information differs from a verified one, we may even be interested, as if we bought tickets with you to some theater, or were brought to some psychiatric hospital, and we can look through the glass at what is happening to its patient, but imagine an ordinary a person who has no skills. with information, this
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is just the usual psycho psychological rape of people, that's all i can say, unfortunately, we have what we have, as i say, this applies to telegram and other social networks, in principle, i think, to the supreme the council, our people's deputies and world freedom in general, and mr. vitaly is right, it is necessary to...comprehensively, methodically, comprehensively approach this issue that we have in recent years, it has already grown to incredible proportions, the issue of disinformation in the world and in it belongs to ukraine has grown to simply unprecedented proportions. there are still other issues, and these issues are being raised again, unfortunately, this is... the issue of relations,
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relations between ukraine and poland, here we have again a topic related to historical contexts, yes, and mr. vitaliy and i have discussed it several times , another scandal, polish prime minister donald tusk announced that ukraine will not join the european union until it decides. historical issues, so-called with ukraine, will not settle historical problems. at the same time, this scandal also affected the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, mr. kulebu. in particular, kuleba also stated that, or rather, he mentioned the vistula operation, which is also one of the infamous pages of history between ukraine and poland. he reminded that... these people
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were evicted from ukrainian territory, they were actually resettled in the territory of the western part of the republic of poland, and many polish politicians, in particular from the right wing, say that kuleba should be banned from entering poland, that is, these exchanges of statements, but what is already the level of the prime minister, who says that ukraine will not join the european... union, this means that we are entering another round of these discussions, and discussions, perhaps, including in the context of the upcoming presidential elections, which will take place already in may 2025, i.e. next year, but less than that, this issue will still need to be solved in some way, it will be necessary to discuss somehow, and ukraine, of course, what will be needed... will be to defend itself, but
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also to talk with poland, to talk with the polish people colleagues, how to go out on some the result, er, well, mr. vitaly, why again, why again the last months, i remember that, and july, we talked with you, and now the end of august is the same again, here is this situation, why did it seem b now, when it is already clear to poland that ukraine is currently fighting against a russian terrorist, that it is clear to us that this issue also needs to be resolved somehow, why... now, why is it being raised now and what should we do in this context, at least in the coming months, at least understanding that there will be elections in poland, and this question will be used, it will be, here we are not without it we won't get anywhere, well, first of all, i have
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to say that we can do nothing in the coming months, because the issue of ukraine's accession to the european union is not an issue of the coming months and the coming years. secondly, i would like to clarify to you that, as far as i understand, polish politicians attacked dmytro koleba. not because he mentioned the vistula operation, but because he called the territories from which ukrainians were evicted ukrainian, right? he misspoke, he meant ukrainian ethnic territories, but again, we are the ones who we call, but the poles, the poles do not think that these are ukrainian ethnic territories, as you understand, and here, too, it is necessary to realize, especially to people who are there in high diplomatic positions, that in a certain situation it is necessary, well, to be careful with statements, and not to answer, not to mention the vistula operation when... you are asked about the situation with zooming, because these are completely different tracks, each one is important, but diplomacy itself in principle, you are like that, it never leads to satisfactory results, it is also absolutely obvious for it's me, but i'm absolutely not going to throw stones at dmitry koleb, because
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it's absolutely obvious to me that his discussion with radoslav sokorsky was simply used to raise hype on this topic, it's clear, there is absolutely such an obvious reality. a reality that primarily concerns our contacts with neighboring countries, and i always say about this reality that if someone thinks that ukraine will be able to join the european union without regulating complex issues with neighboring countries, he is mistaken, i think i've been saying this for years, and i keep giving the example of the republic of north macedonia, which... couldn't join nato because it couldn't settle its constitutional name with greece, and greece clearly said, that as long as macedonia is called macedonia, it will not join any nato or european union. in the end, macedonia found a moment, maybe we too will find this
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moment someday, when in greece there was such an unconventional government for greece, i would say, very left, even i would say the left-wing radical government of prime minister tsipras and... this government was not as excited about the historical legacy as the traditional greek right-wing and left-wing parties, which have always made a career out of history, and this government was able to come to an agreement with macedonia , that it will be renamed north macedonia, macedonia will remain, but will be northern, and macedonia was able to join nato. but this is where the problems with the european union began, because when the story with the european union began. bulgaria said no, there will be no negotiations until you recognize the bulgarian idea of ​​what north macedonia is until you admit that bulgarians have always lived in this area too, and in general bulgarians interfere with macedonians with bulgarians, the macedonian language is bulgarian, and it's such a complicated story, bulgaria started
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blocking north macedonia's accession talks to the european union, and blocked until the macedonians, who were not fed up with it all, voted for... for patriotic parties that don't like the fact that north macedonia is called north macedonia, and now these negotiations can also be blocked by greece, and the question arises, how many years will this continue, 10, 10 years, as macedonia is a candidate for membership of the european union, and what does it have to do with the negotiations, nothing, how long can it continue, it is still 25. i sincerely wish the macedonians that it ended quickly for them, but so far i do not see objective reasons, and that the same fate awaits ukraine, maybe so. and it's very dangerous, it's true, and it's not only dangerous for our neighbors, but also for us, because i always remind, if we will sit like this in front of the doors of the european union, we will hold negotiations, our neighbors, whether they are poles, whether they are
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hungarians, whether they are slovaks or romanians, will demand from us what we cannot do in order not to disturb their public opinion, then in the end , after the war, the russian influence will increase here, and the majority. society, listen, we have been waiting for the european union for 15 years, we had a war with russia 15 years ago, but they don't want us in europe, but russia wants us, so we can join the eurasian union, what in general, our... there parents were such idiots that they boasted about this european union, it is better to be with russia, it does not put forward any conditions for us, but that is, if russia will not put forward, of course, but the danger is huge, and this must be explained polish politicians, and hungarian politicians, and slovak politicians, and romanian politicians, all of this will be a problem, and we can already see this from the claims that hungary puts forward there, now they are still historical claims for the recognition of the language there. transcarpathia is a historically hungarian historical territory, what with poland will be more difficult than hungary when
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it comes to practical issues, i guarantee you that, and there is nothing much you can do here either, as you understand, but we need to really think about it, well, if not today, then tomorrow, how to think , it is necessary to look for mediators, uh, uh, mediators there, let's say, in france, in germany, create joint commissions. to seek a compromise, to create a joint commission of historians, with the participation of, say, polish, ukrainian, french historians, well, for example, to have some kind of referee, so that i countries, other countries are neutral of the european union, offered their version of solving these problems, many such things, many things depend on... how far we are able to explain to poland that there are problems of a national nature, and there are
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problems of a local nature, because for poland, all relations with ukraine rest on what happened on the territory of four regions, lviv, ivano-frankivsk, ternopil, and volyn and volhynia regions, in fact, for people living in kharkiv or poltava regions, poland is as different a country as france or be ugu, they have nothing to do with poland, i mean from the point of view of conflicts, from the point of view of the past, and these poles cannot understand that what is for them a central political issue is actually a regional issue, that people in kyiv and in lviv look at these polish-ukrainian relations completely differently, what is for galicia, and for volhynia poland is a great subject of past history, because the territory... was part of the polish crown in pre-war poland , but what to do with
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the territories that have already said goodbye to poland during the time of bohdan khmelnytskyi, they were never part of poland, just like kharkiv or dnipro or odesa, they were never in poland, they do not understand what polish politicians are talking about, you see, they have a completely different historical and political heritage, and these people make up the majority of the population of ukraine, that's why. and that's why, for them, stepan bandera is a figure of the national movement who fought against the russians, and not at all a person who organized assassinations of polish officials, do you understand, andriy? well, mr. vitaly, i absolutely agree with you, and more moreover, let's be frank, even for residents of khmelnytskyi region or bukovyna, they do not fully understand this context, but i often visit khmelnytskyi region, and it was the same now, so i will also discuss with people. this question and and and and as you say, the perception there for the majority of people
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in poland is actually similar to how we talk about kyiv or kharkiv, i.e. people should not be, of course, and plus we must not forget that this context in poland, those who are openly pro-russian, maybe former now, also play along marginal political forces, for example, the same one... the confederation, which you and i also talked about on live broadcasts, is already gaining 12, 14% in poland. and they are also beating all this and it is clear that they will, will raise this issue, and the russian forces in poland, which are also masquerading as polish forces, they will raise this issue in a similar way, so here, as they say, we need to all her moderate people. people who understand this context on both sides somehow, somehow think, somehow negotiate, somehow
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to create a common vision for a common future, and another topic that i would like to discuss today is, of course , the press conference of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, it took place this week, he spoke... the president answered the questions of journalists and about the situation at the front, and about the kursk region, it is clear that there were certain pressing questions that affected the topic. and mr. tatarov touched on the topic of the united states of america about the president's entourage, that is, there was a certain set of issues that are usually discussed today's society, some positively, some negatively. in general, mr. vitaly, how do you rate this press conference
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? you , as a citizen of ukraine, are satisfied with the answers given by the president, and it is clear whether you and i, as citizens , are satisfied with the questions that were asked to the president, whether all the questions that concern us today were asked, i do not know, andriy , i proceed from the simple truth of journalism that a press conference is not news, i did not watch this press conference, i just watched some theses that the president made, what was important to me, i noticed there, but... i spent exactly 10 minutes reading these things, i believe that what can be said at the press conference is it's not news anymore, ugh, that's all, i can't tell you about the quality there, about all this, i'm not one, you know, i don't remember how many years i've been to any press conference, not a single press conference of the ukrainian president, has not been since 1994, and because i believe that if people
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say something to a large group of journalists, then it has nothing to do with ... thus it is a faster part of a theatrical production than a part of political life. and why even now, i understand that it is not discussed as much as it probably was before a full-scale invasion, it is clear that we are not an invasion, i also did not understand why everyone would discuss it, but... but more also, i still agree with you that it probably isn't as important to society right now, i didn't see as much discussion as before the full-scale second i noticed that the central topic of this entire press conference was that the president answered about the deputy head of his office, it seems tatarov, yes yes, yes, yes,
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yes, it seems, yes, well, this is also very strange, because the president has repeatedly since 2022 shows that he is willing to defend his ugh, staff in front of journalists, ugh, ugh, uh, because he believes that this is part of his political image, his political power, at the same time, let's not forget that when the president decides to get rid of one of his closest associates , he is also a journalist he doesn't ask about it and doesn't pay much attention to public opinion, the truth is, he, well , remember that andrii bohdan was the head of his office, it seems i'm already forgetting these people. bohdan, yes, yes, so, so, so, and this bohdan, it seems, was also criticized no less than oleg tatarov, and the president defended him with the same fervor as oleg tatarov is defended now, and then one fine day he expelled him from position and no longer mentioned its existence, right? well, logically. well, it was the same with any other people,
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even with socially resonant people, such as valery zaluzno. if the president makes a decision to dismiss someone, he is absolutely not... interested in what journalists or non -journalists think about it, if he is going to leave someone in office, he is absolutely not interested in what questions are asked about it, just does not notice or is annoyed, because this is, i would say, this is the style of governance, and it has developed, it is precisely this style of governance that ukrainians voted for in the presidential and parliamentary elections elections, this is a model of one-man rule, which is based not so much on... the constitution, but on opportunities, because when in our conditions of a parliamentary-presidential republic you have a full majority in the parliament, you can ignore the parliament, and you can turn the government into a department in the president's office, yes, by the way, this is not the first time in the history of ukraine, as you remember, it has already happened and after 2010 it was like this in principle, but you can ignore public opinion, because you have
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such a huge mandate, 73% support, and i remind you again that this is not volodymyr's choice. zelenskyi, he didn’t choose himself that way or seized power through a coup d’état, it’s the choice of the ukrainian people, the ukrainian people gravitated towards this, as i said, paternalistic one-man management model, i’m not surprised by this either, because he has been the most popular politician among ukrainians for many years , if oleksandr lukashenko had not been in office for ten years, and it was absolutely clear that if the conditions were created for such a model of government to emerge in ukraine, then it would emerge, i am not surprised by this, but mr. vitaly, if we are talking about the context of the press conference, are they necessary now in the form in which they are, in which they are the connection of the president with society through the media , and if not... and if they are necessary, if we are talking about the fact that they are really necessary, then journalists, in my opinion, have the right to ask similar
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questions, and probably they want to hear some answers to these questions, well, of course, but don't forget that when journalists ask questions in countries where the emergency is taking place the electoral answer, let's say there, when journalists come to a briefing in the white house, then the people who meet with them... know that if something is wrong with them, they will be able to answer questions, they will not meet with journalists, but with a voter, and when you and i are in a situation where there is no such electoral answer, a quick one, then of course in this situation the very form and substance of the answer is not of great importance, that's all i wanted to tell you, that is, after all, if even there journalists or society somehow didn't like the answer, then according to the authorities... this is not a problem for them, and it does not affect, will not affect, will not affect the perception of the government system, as far as i understand it, will affect, will not affect what it is does
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it matter if there are no elections, well, it is affected and what, we are in the same boat with the government, if the government sinks, we will also sink, in the conditions of war, if you sink, then the government will also sink, we are on such a titanic, we need us to weave it so that it was not a titanic, but a ship that could overcome. disaster, already when we emerge, it will be possible to talk about some electoral issues there, but i don't think that this is a quick story, as you understand, well yes, here we actually see that the attention of the public, considering what is going on in our country war, considering the fact that our country is under daily shelling. russia's daily terrorist activities, we observe that attention to such activities is minimal and not what it is during, at least
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during election cycles, that is, when the presidential election is expected or the election is expected parliament of the country, then of course people pay more attention to what the president says, what the deputies say. the period of andriy, well , you understand, a more specific period, in the war you captured some territory, captured it, it’s a fact, ukrainian troops entered suja, it’s a fact, russian troops found themselves some kilometers away from pokrovsk, it’s a fact, a russian missile hit somewhere near the territory of the kyiv hydroelectric power station, this is a fact, you understand, but no... can you buy a railway ticket, there is none, you can spend 45- press conferences, to tell how great the railway works, and then you want to buy
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a ticket, but there is none, and what does a press conference cost you, these are still concrete facts, it is different in a time of crisis from when people can soothe with illusions, you understand. verdict with serhii rudenko from now on in a new two-hour format, even more analytics, even more important topics, even more top guests, foreign experts, inclusion from abroad, about ukraine, the world, the front, society, and also feedback, you you can express yours opinion on the evil of the day with the help of a telephone survey, turn on and turn on, the verdict with serhiy rudenko, from tuesday to friday from 8 to 10 p.m. vasyl zima's big broadcast. two hours of airtime, two hours of your time. two hours to learn about war and how the world lives. two hours to keep up with
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operation. we see that in reality, despite all the efforts made by the international community, the war still continues in the middle east, and given that we don't have much time, mr. vitaly, if we are talking about this, this anti-terrorist operation, this anti-terrorist raid, how successful is it, how far do you think it is now, after all, the situation in in the middle east, the situation... in israel is explosive and as close as possible to some kind of cease-fire, some kind of agreement, which yes, or rather, which the united states of america would like to promote right now before the elections, i don't see any real prerequisites yet for some peaceful i would say peace compromise between israel and hamas.
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even if it is about a truce, precisely because it is an election in the united states, and hamas has absolutely no interest in giving the americans such a gift, but what hamas is really interested in is opening several fronts with israel so that israel turn away from the gas sector, this is also an absolutely understandable tactic, and the west bank, in israel it is called judea samaria according to an ancient biblical tradition, this is the same territory on which abaas also has a rather serious influence, we must... remember that there were massive votes for hamas in the west bank as well, it's just that the fad party, led by the current head of the palestinian authority, mahmoud abbas, won the majority of votes there, but hamas was also very popular there, and this popularity only grew over the years, after october 7, 2023, it multiplied, because a large part of the population of the west bank, like a large part of the population of the gas sector, was
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simply delighted by this hamas raid on ... israeli territory from taking hostages and killing people, they were just in a frenzy of satisfaction, and this has increased the authority of hamas, islamic jihad and other radical groups in this territory, not to mention that this territory is also difficult, as we understand, there are constant conflicts between israeli settlers and residents of palestinian cities and settlements that are in this territory, all this is absolutely obvious, but israel, i would say, conducted a pre-emptive raid. because hamas obviously would like to prepare some situation that would lead to a real serious conflict already in the west bank of the erd river. you see that the hamasites are constantly trying to act either through hezbollah or through the west bank, iran is very interested in this, and israel literally has to fight back and carry out such preemptive actions to stop
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its own. you mentioned this operation in the west bank, and recently there was another birth control operation in lebanon. do you remember when israel attacked hebola's positions, attacked their missile depots and was thus able to pre-empt a massive missile attack on israel. this attack happened, ih zbola had to respond to the destruction of one of its commanders, foad shukr, right in beirut, as it is known, he was eliminated by the israeli special services. an accurate strike, but still this attack is not incomparable to what could have happened if israel had not bombed the arsenals of hezbollah, before this attack, this is such a masterful work of the special services of the jewish state, well, exactly like that on the west bank of the jordan river , this is obviously a preemptive operation, an operation that anticipated the possibility of some raids from this territory, the possibility of raids or
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to jewish settlements. in this area, because now any situation can become really explosive, lead to the opening of new fronts in the middle east, and in principle i do not see now any possibility that it will somehow stop for one simple reason. sir, there are a lot of forces that are interested. yes, yes. and remember, a month ago, everyone was expecting an attack from iran on israel, yes, all the mass media are there. counted 24 hours, 48 ​​hours, there was monday, tuesday, wednesday, friday, this did not happen, but on your opinion has already passed, well, at least 30 calendar days, why did this happen anyway, and could iran have taken such a position in anticipation in order to strike the smart people, why everyone is waiting, why everyone is expecting a retaliatory strike.

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