i think that this is a certain traumatic experience there, for the ukrainian audience, i think that it is a little different, we know there from the same tape 20 days in mariupol, which was released in ukrainian distribution, that despite , that everyone knows what happened, many followed, but now because we are living in a very difficult period, so saturated with various dramatic events, tragic events, it seems that what happened there two years ago, it was... . it was a long, long time ago, and now this film, it shows such a story that happened as if from us, recently, and to look at it again, it was a certain discovery there, i am talking about myself there, because i was also a viewer of my film of this film, i saw it there three times and was constantly in such a state that it was as if i i knew all this, but it amazes me, it really amazes me as a ukrainian who looks at... that happened recently in our

country, and is happening right now. denis, we have four minutes, and i want to ask about the general context of these current contenders for the oscar race, i remember in we had a terrible oscar scandal, when they were choosing between the tribe and povederem, they still chose poveder, although the tribe was needed, and many people later realized that yes... the tribe, it was a great movie at the ukrainian box office, many liked it, it was a hit, and not just a lot of people liked it, but if we take other sites, where the target audience is different, other tasks, then obviously the tape slaboshpytskyi plemiya would be more appropriate, i now see among the contenders for the technical and the oscar race movies like we were recruits of ljubomir levytskyi, or the slovo building, right next door, peaceful people, but what

do you think, by now we have understood that there are different targets, different tasks, different platforms, and obviously films that will be successful in ukraine are not possible, to send to the festival or to the oscars or somewhere, is this not yet clear in the movie theater party? well , it seems to me that after this oscar scandal took place, which was there 10 years ago between the tribe and the host, a fundamental reform of the island took place there. the committee changed rules, there are many, actually half of the points that the film gets, they are awarded automatically, if the film had a world premiere, publications in certain well-known publications, these are all automatic points that are awarded, and there is an oscar committee that gives a part, the other half , this is already voting, this system has changed, the system has changed, how people get into the oscar... committee, that is, after all, it

has become more professional, so i honestly trust, although i would like to, i hope that after all there gathered professional people who will be able to assess the real chances of being for the picture to compete and go as far as possible, and let's say this, after 2014, i don't remember having questions about why that film went to the oscars, one film, or not another, yes, that is ... it has always been a worthy choice for you, i hope that it will be a worthy choice this year as well. well, yes, from some time ago they started saying that maybe this film will not even be nominated there, but we are still not ashamed that such a film from ukraine is entering this race. denis, thank you, i encourage everyone to go to the film peaceful people, which is already in the box office, i will say right away, it is about war, but it is not traumatic, as i think, because...

by the way, when you are in the park right now, there is also the film konotopska witch, in the promo of which they pointed out that this is a film about hatred, that this is the energy of hatred, i don't know that you will come and hate these russian heroes who are killed by a witch, and this is exactly the kind of film that, in my opinion, is not very well made, it, while popular, obviously has some therapeutic effect, but if you want something... something more serious, but also, partly about hatred, partly about some emotions, partly about some rethinking of what is happening to us and a reflection even on the russians, perhaps not all ukrainians want to understand what is in the head, in the head of the russians, but i assure you that the film "peaceful people" does not justify them in any way, you will not see or hear excuses, but... russians, the russian

military, but you will be able to, as it seems to me, with the help of this form and that scenario, i don't know , those references made by the director, you? you will probably be able to understand more deeply how they thought before, what they started to think after the invasion, because after all, you need to know the enemy, i think you need to understand him, and we hardly understand the russians, after all, just like they understand us, and so you see what their ignorance has led them to, well, please watch ukrainian cinema, be interested in ukrainian... culture, i say goodbye to you, traditionally until next week and wish you a peaceful weekend,

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year of the full-scale invasion of the russian federation. if at the beginning of the invasion there was a tendency for people to run to god, this is understandable, understandable things, a lot. people came, some were converted, they came with prayers, they came with requests, now there is such a trend that somewhere people either do not come as often, or pray less, or maybe someone loses hope, and are there such, or you observe something like this, if we talk about your church, or maybe in other churches, having, having communication with your brothers, sisters in the faith, and how to explain it, or how to keep people... that patience and hope that should be present for such a difficult situation as it is today? well, we as pastors have our finger on the pulse of our people, really, or another comparison, we

listen carefully to the beating heart of our people, and i can say that really, the beginning of this full-scale invasion was a big... shock for everyone, we all have changed radically, although the war has been going on for more than 10 years, but it is possible that it is personally a disaster. touched everyone, every ukrainian, every citizen of ukraine, only with that full-scale invasion, and i do not observe any, shall we say, hardening or vice versa, distancing people from the theme of the eternal or from god, on the contrary, we see a colossal conversion, many, say ... from other fields of human knowledge, doctors, psychologists noted that when

the war began, all human relationships were zeroed out, the relationship of a person to himself, to her personal life, relationships between people, even relationships with the closest people, attitude to the state, to the church, all this... is in a state of rethinking, including when a person is looking for god, or has already had a certain, spiritual, religious experience , the war intensified man's search for meaning, man asks himself, why did you happen to me, god, where are you when we are killed? how to choose the right path, landmarks during such great

disorientation, and all this, let's say, pushes a person to look for these, these answers to such very difficult questions, and we all understand that no person can answer these questions, the answer can only be given by the person in whose hands it lies. the fate of a person and the whole world, er, and a person, even a non-believer, he looks for, looks for those eternal values, without which his life has no meaning, and it is obvious that reevaluating all his spiritual and moral guidelines, er, a person in one way or another comes closer to god and to the church, i want to tell you that we have... the experience that certain of our parishes, in particular in central, eastern,

southern ukraine, have changed by 100%, that is such communities where 100% of people were evacuated, but new ones came, this year, for example, all our simple, pilgrimages that we had, we could not organize them, because... that we live under martial law, but everyone was very crowded, people are searching, people, people are thirsty for god, and that christian community, which feeds people with real spiritual food, is very popular today, so i can say that the ukrainian people today, in a state of war , are experiencing something like this.. .especially spiritual conversion, that thirst for god is especially

acute, and all our churches are full, and there is not a single priest who feels unemployed, we all really work, well, at the limit of our strength and capabilities, but we serve the lord god with great joy and our ukrainian people. if in the christian sense, at least in the evangelical sense, what is the freedom that christ gives, christians understand, and independence, spiritual freedom, as where the spirit of the lord is there is freedom, jesus said that i give you freedom, see that, well, there further, it is true that your freedom should not be a reason to please your flesh, but the essence of that freedom, that independence, which the ukrainian state begins from... is political, cultural, spiritual, however you

characterize it, we are independent from what, and how, as they say, does this independence relay to us, how to explain it? well, let me take this opportunity to congratulate all our listeners on the independence day of ukraine. this day is today a personal holiday. everyone. ukrainian, every ukrainian family, because we feel that our life directly depends on whether we will have a free, conciliar, independent state, the question of... our independence, our freedom, is a question of life and death for the entire people, that is why this personal holiday, i remember how when only we got this independence, in the 91st year, in all our churches spontaneously on august 24, it was a spiritual,

almost religious holiday, i remember... how in those first years of independence, on that day, people celebrated everything and the first thing on this day they did, they went to church to pray, it was something like that, well spontaneous movement, this independence, first of all, had a spiritual meaning, and here there are several dimensions of this spiritual meaning of our state independence: first... we all understood that the independence of ukraine is a gift from god, we saw it then, as in the dawn, let's say so , when this independence only, only, only appeared like the sun rising from the horizon, the ukrainian greek-catholic church came out of the underground, which became, as it were

, this stone that hit those, clay feet, that... soviet colossus, it just fell apart. we understood that independence, our state is god's gift, a gift, as god's answer to these centuries-old struggles of our people, which we call today national-liberation, the crown of these struggles was the martyrdom of the ukrainian greco-olod church, in particular during the... communist regime, so the people thanked, but this gift had to be kept, we all saw that this state, which was born after the collapse of the soviet union, is still a post-soviet state, that freedom is

a multi-meaning concept, it has not only some legal meaning. or political the first is moral. in christian philosophy and theology, we are always used to talk about freedom in this double sense: freedom from and freedom for. when we talk about our national freedom, we are talking about the independence of the beginning, this is freedom from scratch. freedom from those neo-colonial encroachments of moscow, which today especially manifested themselves in all their bloodthirstiness during this full-scale invasion, but this is also freedom, for this freedom still needs

to be properly used. as christians, we are many once we made sure that... freedom is the ability, the opportunity to do good, if we use this opportunity, the opportunity to choose good, for evil, then we can easily lose this gift of freedom, so, let's say , this period uh, which we call the young independent ukrainian state of the 90s, the path of visa transition from post-soviet ukraine to a truly democratic state opened before us, and this period was very difficult, marked by several revolutions, when the people did not want to lose their

independence, but took responsibility for your freedom true freedom. is always connected with responsibility, and here it seemed that we all really want to use the fruits of that independence, but not everyone is ready to take responsibility for it, and here i think that the role of the church and churches in that transformation process is very important ukraine, in particular, our church immediately began to occupy itself with... educating its people, educating them to dignity and freedom, to responsibility for their state, i recall... the words of my predecessor his beatitude lubomyr in the first days of the orange revolution, because some are in power said: "here the crowd came out to the maidan."

lubomyr said: "no, it's not a crowd, it's responsible citizens who not only made their free and free democratic choice by coming to vote, they are citizens." who are ready to defend their voice, and i remember his speech on the second maidan of dignity, and when, oh when, this event, which we call the revolution of dignity, took place, well, this responsibility for dignity, it manifested itself at an even higher level than then in the times of the orange revolution, it is obvious that to educate... citizens to the awareness of their own dignity, this is already a revolution, therefore this process of transformation of ukraine from a post-soviet

state to a free democratic state, as the construction of a society that is not only free from, but free for, this process is still ongoing, i think that the war that we. .. today we are worried, this is another stage of this process, but i have the feeling that all those previous years of building an independent ukraine were just preparation for the exam, the real exam, unfortunately, was this terrible war, and watching how today my people, this and... the test is, well, we all thank god for the fact that our people today, even in the context of this tragedy, er, they are creating

a new type of political nation, and not only ordinary ukrainians appreciate our independence in a new way today , not only the ukrainian society, but also the world community, how would you explain, well, now about the explanation, first of all, during these more than 30 years, the moscow church had a huge impact on the minds of ukrainians, i will call it the moscow church in general, because their patriarchs were commemorated there, first there was alexiy, then kirill, they exerted political influence, they exerted financial influence, they cultivated oligarchs, they cultivated politicians, they campaigned for certain politicians. just in their churches. and for a long time it was all perceived as, well, it's people's choice. we have such a church, a ukrainian one, a conditionally

orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate. and even a full-scale invasion of thousands of ukrainians killed, priests killed, by the way, the moscow church blessed the weapons with which ukrainians were killed. all this is not immediately issued a decision to ban this. churches in ukraine, why couldn't it all be born for so long, why couldn't they simply put an end to it, and besides, in your opinion, people who got rid of this moscow word, or will get rid of this moscow word, for a long time, as they say, will be tormented by his absence, or they, if they want god, they will come to you, to epiphanius, to other sanctuaries. of ukraine began immediately after

the russian empire began to colonize the territory of ukraine step by step, starting from the 17th century. the history of our church is here vivid example. step by... year, as soon as russia, the russian empire annexed new ukrainian lands, it began to destroy our church, and the final destruction of our church in the then russian borders happened in 1839, and it is obvious that then russia tried to russify this territory. with the help of various symbols, even monuments, everything possible was used in order to approve this, you know, this, well

, about... simply murderous ideology of orthodoxy, autocracy, nationalities, and even then, the russian imperial power saw the church as an instrument of enslavement, and this i am very sorry to say, as a person who represents the church, it was such, i would say, a shameless instrumentalization of the church in the name of imperial...interests, and then, obviously, the church that even lost the right to have its patriarch, it turned into a department of the state machine. metropolitan andrey sheptytskyi called it the orthodox orthodox church. it was obvious that there was a minimum of spirituality and religion, and a maximum of loyalty to this kind of state control over conscience. millions

people, for example, when this autocracy fell, during the february revolution of the 17th year, i recall this statistic, when for the first time during the first world war, russian soldiers at the front did not have the obligation to go to confession, before that at one time, everyone had to go to confession and from the father... a certificate of benevolence, ugh, and here for the first time there is no king, and there is no longer such a duty. actually, then in the 17th year before easter in the russian army , only a couple of percent of the soldiers went to confession, and this caused a huge collapse of the opportunities of this church at that time to control the subterfuge of people, and then everything

went down, that is... with the speed of a dream of a snowball, which simply washed away this church, then already during the bolshevik revolutions. unfortunately, all those consequences were fully felt by ukrainians. in particular, when stalin revived the instrument of manipulating the religious feelings of believers in the soviet union, reviving the russian orthodox church. cooperation, raising it coolly, then it became a tool not of the tsarist, but of the communist regime, eh, it was not surprising, i remember my childhood, seeing orthodox fathers with communist awards, and then the bishops of the russian orthodox church received state awards for closing churches, their own, well, we were then the children

of the persecuted church . independent, this independence nevertheless began to require certain changes, we all today remember and know the term decommunization, that is how it spontaneously began to happen in western ukraine, that fall of lenin happened back in the 90s. in these years, here, but unfortunately, the central eastern-southern ukraine lived even after others rhythms, and here, when the whole neo-colonial face of the russian government and the face of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine appeared, then the ukrainian people made a demand: regarding

decommunization, even moscow orthodoxy on the territory of ukraine. i don't want to go further into the analysis of these processes, because i can be accused of meddling in internal orthodox events, but these are more political events, an ordinary citizen of ukraine at a certain moment said to himself, well, enough, you can fool us, and obviously, something. today, the ukrainian state feels its duty, in particular in the conditions of a full-scale invasion, to take care of state security, even when it comes to threats to state security, which, therefore, come from the bosom of followers of the moscow orthodox church in ukraine, so i think we should all be honest