well, in one word, i wanted to name a whole series of extreme territories, where the ukrainian presence, it is centuries-old, centuries-old, this is not what we are talking about, we are not talking about this dimension of geography, we are talking now, if europe, if the world does not understand that there can be no victory, in which the putin regime remains in existence, that there is no... negotiation process, when president putin is sitting in one of the chairs, this is the first sign that you have lost, that you are giving some way of feeding this mess, it is not for you needed, i'm talking about the portuguese or about germans or french, you don't need him, he will take you tomorrow, in what form? let's not guess now, i just... i just want to say one thing that

today, if you haven't solved the topic of security, you haven't solved any of the issues that are on your agenda, security is such a thing that borders does not know, regardless of whether you are 600 km, 10 thousand or 1.5 km away, and that is why it is obvious that the world today has a big task of how to correctly formulate the definitions of exit from the war brought by putin. i only i want to emphasize one thing, in order not to create any prejudicial discussions, the presence of putin at any conference, the presence of the need for putin's signature on behalf of the prison of nations does not provide an answer to...

our victory, it should not be left for tomorrow , and then we quietly come to thoughts that i think are very undervalued in today's world, i'm afraid, or i'm wary of that syndrome that we experienced in the 90s, when the president of the united states comes from the podium of the parliament, says.. what ukrainians, you don't decide to create sovereignty, and george bush, from whom everyone expected support, absolutely, on the streets of kyiv for three months there have been many thousands of rallies for independence, the president of the largest democratic country comes and says: don't you dare to do this, don't dare, me, and i'm sorry , that he drove by my way to kyiv then after moscow or? domoski, well, in any case, it

was a visit by road, i know that he gave a speech in the verkhovna rada on the way from the airport to leonid makarovich, well, he gave theses or verbally, what he wanted to say, as if he agreed with leonid makarovich, as the chairman of the verkhovna rada, well , in a word, i have a heavy feeling that today... the world has stopped , including the european one at a crossroads, if tomorrow, after the end of this war , we see in the bosom of russia in the russian model, in its presence on this political field, i think we are making a huge mistake, a huge mistake, we are making the ... mouth

that putin needs most today, in order to then come to the borders of poland, of slovakia, bulgaria, and continues to do the evil thing for which he saw the russian mission, when, you know, on the same question, where is the end of russia, where, where are its borders, from peter i we hear... such a historical chrestamatiya, what about the borders of russia where its interests end, a good wording, then the wording of putin in the 2000s, well, it was in 2006, to be more precise, at one of the language conferences they were expressed by his wife, reports that were written in the kremlin, and she will voice... the position of the kremlin,

russia ends there, guys зачанияться русский язык, for the last three months, putin has been conducting an elective. the historical duty officer also asks the boy about seven or eight years ago where the borders of russia end, and the boy is trying to remember the geography, to name something correctly, where are the borders, he approaches his head like this, and if he were to save him from this impasse. and gives advice to the drunken russian nation, remember, russia has no borders, so how do you come up with this philosophy, it's not a joke, well, as a president, the president of the country comes out, every word, it is official, and

he says that his state, which occupies 1/8, which is currently waging 10 wars, maybe even more, and count how many in africa? count africa, count the caucasus, count eastern europe, and this is a country that is a member of the united nations, the highest security organization in the world, chaired the security council, a member, a permanent member of the security council, this is an aggressor country, this is a country where its the leader is recognized as an international criminal, at every step in europe , the photo of the criminal putin is wanted. and so on and so forth, and we live in such in the world, this is a country that has not even been formally accepted as a member of the united nations. well, listen, it's amazing what kind of world this is. so, i am afraid that no one

can use the answer with such a russia. today, to sit down with him for negotiations, it means to repeat munich in the 38th year. i remember when the chamberlain flew in, he waved one sheet and said: "i brought you peace. while you were walking, i worked diplomatically, great, i brought you peace, deladier, the same thing i said there in france, and here we are now, listen, need red ones line, we must listen to what this executioner of peoples, peoples' churma, speaks, warns, this is the territory where..." under the cover of colonialism , more than 100 indigenous peoples live, where every two years someone's native language dies. listen, we are in a terrible world in fact, when in europe they try

to form some kind of tolerance, that it is possible to make a deal with this evil for several years, this is a very wrong policy. on the other hand, ukraine gives you an example of how to fight for your sovereignty independence, as it really is armored car of europe, how is it possible, in other words, to enter the territory of the country of the aggressor and force putin to read something from a piece of paper with trembling hands, having gathered his generals and not knowing what to do, it turns out that yes, it was possible, here again, without understanding ... what will it all lead to, but we understand that ukraine sometimes shows, just such an example here is to your words that europe does not know what to do with putin, but at one time in the battle of pyragamelas, alexander the great showed that it is possible had to do with persian empire, destroying an army that was ten times larger, napoleon did not succeed in destroying the world of empires, but the world of empires

collapsed 100 years after napoleon, that is, now, without taking a certain step, we will simply drag it out in time, then there may be, absolutely, a paragraph number one: don't look for a partner in putin. he never will, he is a speculator who will use today's historical position to knock on your door tomorrow, so be wiser, although it is harder to do, certainly the things we are talking about we say that the answer to how to democratize russia, i do not find it in the answer that one ideal democratic power will come. which will now be supported by 144 million russians, i take this as a conditional number, there is no such force and there never will be, in the regime of a dictatorship this force very well feeds

putin, his power and his junta, the trouble of russia. by the way, not only is it possible in russia, putin's evil triumphs not only because there are so many in russia and it is so strong. what we call evil, i think, in the formula of putin's existence, is the strongest point the fact that in russia there are most indifferent people, and indifferent people, they automatically close with evil, and it, and it triumphs, and it is because of indifference, you know, when you, when you are on the tver boulevard. go out and stand like this near

the monument to the ukrainian prince dolgoruky, you will be arrested, when today we talk about the information world, where instant eyes are exchanged, billions of megabytes of memory, more than 1 thousand journalists in russian prisons. several thousand political prisoners of all levels, local and up to the highest, this is a country that lives in the middle us, how are you going to arrange your future with such non-humans, in general, do you not feel the danger with this indifference that exists in russia, which is brought up as a political system, no state institute works there, there is no parliament. neither the upper chamber, nor the lower chamber, this, the printer, which will

issue you by the evening, any regulations, any, open a new war, in 15 minutes there are documents already signed by putin, any evil, it will be so scaled that of the political community or within the country, whether in europe or in the world, there is no way to stop this, sooner or later we want to come to terms that such a political system with such leadership as is today in russia, the world does not have a green light for its existence, there is no, sooner or later it's late, rather at the most inconvenient time, they will knock on your door and tell you that what you put to sleep two years ago, years ago was evil, what you put to sleep, what you did not decide and acted inadequately,

now it is knocking on your door , and you are poles, or you are german, or you are french, you will give the answer that you did not give 5 years ago, in fact, the awakening of the world is, obviously, if you, if you remember, in the 22nd year, how french president macron spoke with putin for 16 hours, you are simply amazed. this is one of the leaders of europe, calling the criminal who started a new world war, what are you asking him, what are you begging him for? well, at the beginning of the conversation, he put, put, well , a healthy analysis, he will release the territories he occupied after your call, no, his plan to escalate new territories will change. no, what is the purpose of your calls, are

the elections of chancellor scholze taking place, and in one of the interview, the first interview he says that germany will not give to ukraine, as if the question was, what will germany not give to ukraine? no, the question was, what will germany give ukraine? so the chancellor began by devoting two... thirds of his speech to the fact that germany will not give, that will not give, that will not give, that will not give, that, and it went, yes, and what will germany give, at the end whist, he says, germany will give 500 helmets and 2,500 field bags with the red cross, yes, that's exactly what happened, now listen to chancellor scholz, he tears putin, and on... on a human level, without any patience, he uses the most profound

characteristics, order, actions, gestures. listen today to, uh, french president macron. as a person, after all these scenarios, how to modernize the world, how will he learn to respond to the calamity that russia brings. to the concept of the new security and defense policy of europe, alongside nato, when the president of the united states of america said that... europeans should rethink their attitude to the formation of nato resources. europe in parallel it comes to the point that, along with nato, you must have your own author's project that provides an answer to the urgent security of europe, and where in ukraine, one of the most interesting

places is allocated, by the way, the european union commission is currently working on the first safety the project of europe, and the second commission, how to respond to the challenges that china and the united states of america bring to the european economic market. in this way, i bring to what, to the fact that today we are witnessing a rethinking of many established relations, and perhaps russia in 25 years putin's reign has come to an end. points of disrespect for oneself and for the policy that it forms, i can definitely testify that you will not find russia in the first row of countries that shape the politics of europe or the world, i think that they do not have it in the second either, you know that , a bolonochka on which we will not

call the leaders of other countries, and no more, and no more. precisely the dependent colonial state that it is today, and with those unique opportunities, more than 40% of the world's resource wealth is concentrated in russia, i have two blitz questions, and one a little broader, so that we we had time, because here we are talking about ukraine and its prospects. blitz of questions, well, you know, you need to dispel myths, separate ones, don't ask, i won't ask about nuclear weapons, because those documents were not signed in your time. but many people say so, well, this is a common story, that it was necessary to push in 2008 at the nato summit, and we would have been accepted into nato, then a number of countries gained membership there, there was expansion, to put it very briefly, why then, i i understand that it did not depend on ukraine, we remember putin on that, his

words, we remember that ukraine is not even the state, but... uh, why then, or what they said, here is what they said, then you, you won't be able to catch up with the conditional chancellor fern or someone else to say, well, come on, and how did they argue , as if, well, they don't threaten you, well, what do you want, well, let's start from 1994, the 1994 memorandum, which i believe, from the point of view of... missions for the world, ukraine with its step, it put the last point in the end of the cold war, or what is called the third war. i think that the leadership of ukraine at that time treated it exceptionally well great respect for the mission of guaranteeing the security

of ukraine within the framework. written document, there are two direct points in the document that testify to the creation of a full guarantee of your territorial integrity and political sovereignty, and under this document is the signature of the president of the united states, the president of france, britain, the chairman of the people's assembly of china, you can say, all of me... club from the position of 1994, one can read, listen, no country in the world, except ukraine, has such a document, such weight, why such in such a way, because now it is possible to analyze, so analytically already, why were tactical weapons not

taken out by brackets, were they not limited there... to carriers and so on, why did ukraine act the way it did and sign this memorandum? my short answer: we were one on one then, we were not supported by russia, obviously, in the way that ukraine would like to see the tools of ukrainian security formation, we were not supported by the united states. because the general task - the third nuclear arsenal must be dismantled, and this united the united states and russia, and this made it possible to connect. other three members of the nuclear club of the world, and when it was necessary to form even a constitutional period of relations, whether in

the 14th year or in the 22nd year, we very difficultly managed to form a round table of consultations with our guarantors, and until today, by the way, this the five never sat down at the table, well, the five are not the five, but... the four never sat down at the table, and this, in my opinion, made a very unpleasant fact of history for the security of the security policy of the world, i don't know how the world will talk like with the north korean leadership, on nuclear disarmament, when the time comes, or with iran, or with iran. or with pakistan, or with three other countries, about which it is already possible to say that the fact, most likely, is that

they have nuclear decoupling, how does one say to them, what argument will the nuclear world, the nuclear club give them, when there is an example of ukraine, which sincerely and openly accepted the proposals of the nuclear club. and suffered, by the way, the question, here is this war, speaking, in your opinion, there is an agreement today, i do not know at what level or on what channels that it will not be completed in any case with the use of nuclear weapons, this is precisely the war that russia started, well, at least now ukraine is directly participating in it as an opponent of the aggressor, the assessment of the risk of a nuclear conflict of the nuclear factor is cooling down. and the world is increasingly coming to understand that, in fact, the first sign of putin's death, putin's

use of anything from the nuclear arsenal, is a war with the whole world, this is his personal death and the end of this war, and today about these red lines somehow and not everyone understands. where do they pass and that is , actually at the end, will you put such a final point and there have already been questions, there are many more, unfortunately, there is no time. the formula of taras hryhorovych, whom you mentioned several times, today: to fight to fight is a really valid formula, and obviously, this is what ukrainians should wish for today. it definitely is. for the ukrainian part, the most important part of the answer to our victory is understanding. that our power is in our hands, this is the first thing, and this power forms national spirit, not ak-47, not s-300, not

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every day, because the guys keep asking for them, it's like dry rations that i just ate package and you can not be hungry for half a day, these are sweet, and on the contrary, they are salty, who likes which, at first, when we first started weaving these nets, we thought to ourselves that we should write them down somehow, and here is how many nets we make every day this was done, written, written, written, and then we got tired of writing them and stopped writing them. about 15 people are involved in the work of the volunteer hub every day, flags and chevrons on the walls of the premises, thanks to the team from the soldiers, orders, requests from the guys, everything needs to be ordered and received on time, and so every day, every day, happens sunday is our weekend, we close, it's the third year, people are tired, and i don't have a weekend, because the guys go at any time, and at 5:00 p.m. and at 8:00 p.m., they... go and stop by

my house, take away and we load. 63-year-old tatiana comes from a large family. from childhood, her parents taught her to help others. before the war, the woman supported the sick, and since 2014 , the military. in order to scale up the efforts, i created a volunteer hub. yes, more than two dozen cars alone were sent to the front, and this car is already going to the front. about a month ago, they turned to tetyana oleksandrivna for help. my friend we studied earlier, he told us who to turn to, we turned to them and they helped us to fulfill our combat tasks, well, this is the 24th, no, of course not the first, and it’s been in these years since the 22nd, before i had others, but now when buses, minibuses are gone, nets, first aid kits, clothes, pillows, mattresses, food,

defenders' requests are also handed over, volunteers try... to do as much as possible and thank those people who come, i wish more of us would come here, we all it we do to win, every day, work, work to make life easier for our guys. volunteers are supported by locals and immigrants, despite the idea that people have started to get tired, trust in the center is growing, says ms. tetyana, from kropyvnytskyi for the tv channel. espresso. news time on the espresso tv channel. kateryna shirokopoyas works in the studio. at least two people were injured in kyiv due to.