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of the espresso tv channel and to which you are joining, for which we are very grateful, more than 10,000 have already been collected since the very morning and we are collecting, let me remind you of drones and rebs, that is, radio-electronic means of warfare, this is what they look like and we are collecting them for three glorious brigades, which are now at the front, that is the third assault brigade, this is 110, this is 47a, the glorious legendary brigades, which are now just now leading exhausting, bloody, terrible. battles with the enemy, our defense forces, they need such drones, modern, super drones and repstations, which allow both evacuation and cover our calculations, in short, we need to collect some unfortunate 3.5 million uah, yes, let's say so, we already raised well over half, we have a little bit left to close it all, so if you have the opportunity to be inspired and... you can donate at least there

10-20 uah, then this will be a very good contribution this morning and i encourage you to do it, i already did it, by the way, i dropped my 100 uah today, so what will be added, drop less, drop the same as me, drop more than me , i will be infinitely grateful to you for this, and even more so to the fighters of these brigades, well, gentlemen, i am now presenting our next song. the interlocutor is arkady petrosyan, head of the association of young idps of ukraine and former head of the youth council in bakhmut. mr. arkady, i congratulate you, good day, glory kudos to ukraine, heroes, and i'll start with how things are going in bakhmut, are there any reports, any news? well, of course, things are like a dead city, we see drone video from our military, first -person video from our military, that the city is completely... 99% destroyed and,

unfortunately, idps from bakhmut , also from naryupel, as well as from luhansk region, to date, where yury cannot prove that... is destroyed and receive compensation, as other citizens of ukraine receive it, for example, from kyiv oblast, so i will remind you, this is not the first time i appear on the air on your channel, i will remind the viewers that our team of the youth association has developed bill 11, which was submitted to the parliament by the european solidarity faction, it was supported in the first reading, we are creating a housing compensation mechanism for of internally displaced persons this month, we hope that the verkhovna rada... the bill is in the second reading and will support this important bill for almost 5 million people, this bill and compensation mechanisms, i.e. essentially about what amounts it's about who can claim them, how is it supposed to work? first of all

, people with property rights can apply, a clear mechanism of the cabinet of ministers has been developed, resolution 600, you can see it on the website, we always send people here, show them. there is a clear formula by which a person can calculate there himself with the help of a calculator, see, ah, knowing his, his area of ​​​​his home, the year of construction of his house, the number of rooms, there is a clear coefficient, there are two formulas, the formula for apartments and for a private house, there are two two different formulas, and for example, we calculated that a person can get uah 800,000 for a room in an apartment in bakhmut, who spends a year building a house there... 970 years, but we will advocate the issue of what, for example, for donetsk luhansk oblast, there is a coefficient of the region in this formula, and it is much lower than in other regions of ukraine, we will of course advocate that this coefficient be at least

slightly increased, but these amounts are sufficient, in principle, they are worthy, but they are not panacea and they are only the start for for people to stay in the country. and we must be honest, it may not be soon, our team is currently collecting live signatures all over the country together with hundreds of volunteers before the second reading of the verkhovna rada, our goal is to collect 25,000 signatures, we have already collected more than half, i think we will finish the collection this week signatures, we are very grateful to everyone who contributed, what are the prospects of this draft law being supported by the committee, or is it due to... such expenses for the budget? in the first, before the first reading of the economic development and trade committees will support this draft law, of course these are extra expenses for the budget, but they are not extra, as a macroeconomic investment, i repeat myself for 5 million people, and here is the question, what

is the life of a citizen of ukraine from the kyiv region, from the kharkiv region different from a citizen of ukraine from the donetsk and luhansk regions or from the autonomous... republic of crimea, here the question is already about social justice, and of course a separate international program is needed, and now everything that is compensated from the budget to residents who have destroyed property, for example, i repeat, kyiv region, kharkiv region, sumy region, this is the world bank, this is the money of international partners, and the government must then have a job, must communicate with international partners, about a separate program for ukraine, so that the people who chose ukraine. leaving through roadblocks, risking their lives, could apply for housing here and wanted to live in ukraine, because we know that now many people are leaving abroad and because of russian propaganda , unfortunately, there is almost no specific figure now, but many people are leaving and to the temporarily occupied territories, about it

it is necessary to say, uh, whether the own problem of forced migrants, forced forcibly displaced persons, it... is sufficiently resolved in ukraine, whether idps can find themselves, integrate in the new territories where they have found themselves, or whether everyone, for example, do they have a job, do they all now have housing and a sufficient standard of living, my personal subjective opinion, i am an idp myself twice, not only there i am an expert in the issue of internal displacement of persons, i and my family are internally displaced persons, the problems of internally displaced persons are not resolved even. and by 10%, the strategy communicated by the ministry of reintegration of temporarily occupied territories is quite superficial, and i would like to remind you that since march 1, the majority of internally displaced persons are deprived of benefits, because of this it is difficult for people to rent housing, it is difficult to integrate into new

communities , because it is necessary to understand that this is not only a question of fish, but also a question of leakage, because i know many families, at the beginning i helped to a full extent, including evacuating zbahmuta. to people, people, and on these payments, whole families lived, they rented apartment, with what they earn here, they bought medicine, clothes, some banal things there. things, the first, the first ability, the first requirements for oneself, yes, but now, now there is no such thing, and the ministry, the ministry of social policy, not the ministry of integration, do not introduce any alternatives regarding housing, there is a house, according to the house of the 22nd year , and let me remind you that these are soldiers, doctors, and teachers, not only internal displacement, a little more than 200 class were bought. and i will remind only the idps, we have 4.6 million people, almost 5 million,

this is the population of slovakia, for example, and that's why i don't work in oseli, there should be a separate credit program for internally displaced persons, so the state still needs to devote a lot of time to this problem, because now there are two prijetets in the country, the first prijetet is of course, our military, by the way, i will leave a donation for your collection, very, very cool, their provision, their support and so on. and the second is people who suffered from the war, their support so that our demography does not suffer, so that people who already lost everything they could rely on the cries of the state. we also understand that if we simply give money to people, conditionally speaking, it stimulates to some, to some more active position, well, i mean, it is possible that lending would be a more profitable way to attract. people into the economy, into some kind of active integration, association under

draft law 11, this is the first step, i am currently working with experts, while we are not very sure about it, but we are working on the development of a separate credit program for internally displaced persons, including the youth of the number internally displaced persons, and for example, according to our mechanism, the first installment can be received a certificate. well, thank you very much, mr. arkady, arkady petrosyan, head of the association of young idps of ukraine, former head of the bakhmut youth council, was with us, thank you for participating in our marathon and for this valuable information, we remind you that next week there will be a review by the committee of the verkhovna rada before the second reading of the bill on housing compensation mechanisms for forced migrants, as you can see, there are more than 5 million of them, and this... this is true, this is the population slovakia, this is an incredible number of people who were forced to leave their homes, we

just told today, not actually us, but today in our ete , journalist alyona sobolenko from pokrovsk, who left for a week already with her family to poltava region, told her story. the city is very close to the front, the russians continue to advance and, that is, the number of forced migrants, displaced persons, it will increase. and so far we do not have a good answer, how to help and integrate these people, but this not only a burden, it is of course also an opportunity, especially since ukraine currently has a huge shortage, including labor force, so we hope that the best option will be found, how to attract these people and help them, we will also talk today about the situation in the energy industry, you know, president zelensky demands the dismissal of the head

of ukrenergo, who was chosen in a competition according to international rules, who is considered a very good specialist and specialist, why did the president not like him so much, we know, he thinks he is responsible for the fact that there were insufficient protective structures before that, such as tets, seikakhs, hes, before that with the same blame. was forced to resign from his position by mustafa nayim from the state intelligence agency slom, somehow it is there is some kind of system that is being developed in our country, if you were elected according to a transparent international competition, if you have a reputation or a very good manager, a specialist in business, or a reformer in various reformist governments, a man who introduced some european let's say values ​​and practices, then most likely you

you will hear something like: get out of here , you robber, but if you have any connections with russia, you are involved in a million different corruption cases, you don't understand which rolls-royces are registered to your mother-in-law, then in principle it seems that the your growth is guaranteed in this country, why is this happening? and how it affects our energy security, this is of course an open question, and in principle, it is rhetorical, i think, rhetorical, but let's talk a little about energy more professionally, yuriy... rolchuk, an expert on energy issues, i think will help us in this find out what we have now, congratulations, mr. yuriy, we are on the air, yes, good day, good day, mr. yuriy, how do you evaluate this idea of ​​firing kudretskyi, is he really not coping, you understand, you can’t, like me it seems that when trying to objectively really

assess the situation, one cannot go to extremes, i.e. we either unconditionally defend... one side, or we unconditionally criticize it, that is why we now see, unfortunately, such a situation, i.e. the problem in korenergo and kodrytskyi in the fact that really in the conditions of war, martial law, that's all information that concerns those projects that were, well, which ones ukrenergo was engaged in, yes, that is, it is repair, not repair, but the arrangement of protection for substations, yes, this is closed information, that is , there is no open information, we do not see even... speeches, nor acts of completed work, we only know the amount, in principle, that was spent on the arrangement of the actual protection, that is, not on repairs, that is, there is an official figure that ukrenergo themselves, let's say, confirm, so that they received for two years, well actually two years, so with of the time of the first missile strikes, yes, that is , not even two years have passed, uh, we received

1.5 billion euros, and from this amount approximately, if you... hryvnias, somewhere around 16 billion hryvnias, so it went, 25% went there the construction of protective structures had to be spent, that is, uah 16 billion per minute , the restoration agency that you mentioned and mustaha nayem , yes, although this is a different story, it is a state organization, in fact, and there was no competition, if you also mentioned it, that is, there is only a decision of the state, yes for example , they are a recovery agency. spent in total, up to uah 5 billion, there is uah 4.6 billion, that is, the difference is actually colossal, that is, it is for the construction of protective structures, moreover, these protective structures are mainly those of the so-called first and second level, that is, you understand, they also very nicely hid the first, second, and third levels behind it, that is, as if it were the first and second, it should be something like that too, but in fact it is not significant, unfortunately, that is, both and it

and could not be significant, that is, roughly speaking , it is mixed with sand and stones, that is... concrete the blocks are basically made up like a constructor there or lego there or can it be compared so who can draw such an analogy and the third stage was not implemented and although there are statements there that somewhere 10% built nothing built nothing built nothing only preparatory work has begun , and the problem of all three stages is what, and the problem of kudrytskyi is also what, for example, well, because you are so in favor, well, you raised the question, why is there such an opinion that they want to release him, such information, such if the mood, and ukrenergo's role in this, so what, so the next question is that they faced the problem, in fact, the lack of standards for protective structures of this type, well, there are none, well, no one made them, just like

the bomb shelter, then here is an example for the audience, so that people understand when these are all different such stories there are scandalous with bomb storages, yes or with just storages, there are no standards, that is, basements are being reworked, some semi-basements are being reworked there, some new underground rooms are being literally dug there, yes, for example, but this is not a standard, and here it is there is no of the standard, because the standard is checked, and in fact, these are all defense structures, no matter how funny it may seem to someone there, yes, but we must first build, test, that is, launch on... drones, missiles in the literal sense, that is, how a car is broken by a stand, well, if it is so that people understand just an example, if it is like a new car that is manufactured and is broken, they are broken by hundreds in order to test the protection, the system there, the frame there and so here the same, there is no yes, there is no time for this, there is no possibility, there is no probably, well, funding for weapons is such,

that is, to, and otherwise, otherwise we will not understand how to build this defense system, when it will be effective, yes it will be broken, yes it too. they will lower it, yes, but then it will fulfill its role, at least, and for this, perhaps, ukrenergo will also be asked, yes, that is, first of all, uah 16 billion, that is, what was it spent on , this is closed information, i repeat, unfortunately, that is, if they wanted, open, yes it is, well, maybe it would be a violation of just certain there are the conditions of the current military legislation, which regulates, more precisely, martial law, and the second point is that there are no standards, what was built then, according to what principles. this is the kind of trap that ukrenergo actually fell into, that is, on the one hand, it fell involuntarily, because something had to be done, yes, well, in the literal sense, and something was done, and now we will have to bear responsibility for it. this is such a key aspect and an important remark immediately about the continuation , that's how you said that kudrytsky was elected, yes, i understand that, but my position, for example, in relation to all these state-owned companies

, there is energoatom, now the supervisory board has been elected there, and ukrenergo and naftogaz have also changed in naftogaz, by the way , once the manager and then the supervisory board , there is such a story was interesting, so my position is as follows, you understand that all these supervisory boards are observed, they have the right to exist when there is... within them, in these companies, there is a junction of interests of different owners, for example, the state leaves it to itself there conditionally there is 50%, 50% is the share capital that i bought, an ipo was issued there, they just sold it, and now there is a supervisory board that balances the interests, whose interests are balanced here by the supervisory board, that is, i always had a question, that is, if this enterprise is state-owned, then of course they get out of course there are stories there. corruption, abuse, one's own people and so on, well, there won't be a balance, you understand, a balance, that is, there is, or this enterprise is state-owned,

and then the state there, the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, makes a decision there, who to change, one person, to another , on the third, on the tenth, but with on the other side, well, we really see the paradox that there is a supervisory board, there is, as it were , a conditionally transparent competition, well, let's call it that, yes, as if, and there is a person who was chosen, and now. this person, if they could be replaced, but i will return to the first question, what i explained to you, for what they can be replaced and for what it will be definitely, well, let's say, in my opinion, there is a reason for this, it is not meant to be replaced, a reason for analysis of the situation, for consideration, that is, an audit, roughly speaking, that is, where the money was sent, how much it was effectively used, yes, well, but on the other hand, you know, the war is not over, it is not over, so even if all these works will have to be continued, how will they be continued, just as accordingly, yes, well... without standards there without without a clear plan of understanding whether this protection will work or not, because you mentioned the test test of thermal power plants, hydroelectric plants, ukrainian energy

has nothing to do with this, they only have to do with substations, that is, it was impossible to protect either the test or the hydroelectric power plant there baby too theirs, burshtynska, dobrotvirska, lodyzhenska, there if zmiivska in the kharkiv region, it is impossible to protect there in reality, that is, so that... immediately if they understood, yes, what we are talking about, well, simplicity is not clear to us, it just looks like , that this is some kind of voluntary decision, and in that case, can we hope that some other leader would be better and what you are saying about the fact that it is completely closed, there is no control of just the public and society, in general, what is happening in this sector, 16 billion, what happened to them, like this to check, if this is a matter of military secrecy, we openly say that many of our people have left andriy. for example, in the ministry of energy, that is , can these people theoretically be, for example, these very moles and leak any information of the absolutely highest level of secrecy, well

, for example, if we are already thinking in this direction, maybe, it can be like this, or in the russians do not see any preparatory work for defensive structures and so on through the satellite, they see, of course, well, it just means what and from whom do we hide in the first place, but by the way... you just mentioned there, what people call a jerk or anyone there, it doesn't matter who is there 10 years ago, in politics there, you can remember the prickly yanukovych yes, i heard the names that were there , yes, but look, even the same one, if it was kudryskyi, yes, he once worked with people who were related to kolomoiskyi, yes , to name a person kolomoiskyi, although, by the way , one of the grounds for criticizing him is that there is a case against united energy which company kolomoisky is really relevant that in this country, which was in one way or another oligarchic, it is impossible, the matter has been raised, but the question is, it was impossible not to have any connections, if you became someone in this

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