first of all for a russian-speaking person, he will have a much more comfortable life, he will not have big problems, and he will have a much wider environment both geographically and culturally and politically than the ukrainian environment he could count on, and i always remind him of this when we are talking about... the ukrainian world that we have to build, each of those whom we are proud of today in history could have made a completely different civilizational choice and lived a much more comfortable life. taras shevchenko could simply be an outstanding russian artist and to publish russian works in the leading periodicals of the then empire. probably he

would not have joined the army, probably he would have lived longer, probably his portraits could now be seen in russian art academies, but what would happen to ukrainians if taras shevchenko made such a comfortable choice? it turned out that his readiness to create a ukrainian soul is by and large. there was a journey to golgotha, but he made this choice because such a choice is made only out of love, maybe it's not even a choice, maybe it's a calling which you cannot refuse, but in any case we know that each of these people i am talking about had his own version, ivan franko could have been a prominent polish publicist or an austrian politician, as many of his contemporaries were in then

in lviv, in what was then galicia, they became deputies and presidents of cities, they wrote polish-language works, but what would have happened to ukrainians if ivan franko had made such a choice, what would modern galicia and modern ukraine look like if we did not have shevchenko and franko . olga kobylyanska could become a german fiction writer, but her choice of ukrainian literature created that image of bukovyna... which we all know very well. mykola lysenko could write operas to russian-language librettos, then he was offered it, composers who are now much more famous in the world than him, because if he had made this choice, his operas would have been staged on the stages of the most important theaters of st. petersburg and moscow but if lysenko made such a choice. we would not have

ukrainian opera. this list can go on and on and on for hours therefore, i always ask to appreciate those who chose ukraine. he chose the ukrainian world as his civilizational reference point. gave us all the opportunity to develop and be proud of you. gave us the opportunity to understand that this... exists not just as a territory, but as a civilizational project, as a real land whose residents have common public, national, and cultural interests. in the end, i want to remind you that

there were enough people who perceived ukraine exclusively as a place to build prosperity in pre-soviet, soviet and post-soviet times. frank about wrote this: you love russia like bread and a piece of lard, simply as a territory on which you can get rich, on which it is convenient to get rich, on which you can solve problems. a territory where it is convenient to deceive people, but ukraine is not about that, in every country people want to live better, in every country welfare is an absolutely normal moment of development of citizens who live everywhere, from the united states or canada to european countries , but... first of all, people are united by common

values, people who left great britain, and on... a wobbly ship they sailed from plymouth to the shores of unknown america, they were in a hurry first of all for religious freedom, for the right to believe as they saw fit, if the main thing for them was simply to get some more piece of land, where they were . vague spaces of the future united states, then i want to ask you who would have helped us then now, who would have supplied us with weapons, who would have stopped russia, yes, maybe not at such a pace as we wanted, obviously, but still

there was ready to spend money on his own own taxpayers in order for you and i to survive. if it was just about wealth, about another skyscraper, about another house with a car, would american society be the way we know it, no, it would not be, the same with european countries, people were ready to sacrifice themselves and their future , for the sake of their countries rising from the ashes even. when it would seem that nothing could revive them from history. our neighbors, the poles, rose up in rebellion, even when their territory was divided between by several empires, and these empires together were ready to fight their national rivalries. and what was wrong with the ukrainians themselves

, that there were many uprisings in this territory that seemed hopeless, but carved out the ukrainian spirit, and that these uprisings were solely for the land, for the opportunity to get along, for the opportunity to build a more prosperous future? no, it was primarily about dignity, and dignity is also the opportunity to remain ukrainian, when it would seem that the whole world is against it, the whole world denies you this, when it has it started in one of the annals of ancient russia a thousand years ago, when they reported the death of one of the princes of pereyaslav, they wrote that the whole of ukraine mourned him, this is

the first memory of the word ukraine in the history of our future state. 1000 years ago, the land that was kyiv, that was pereyaslov, that was chernihiv, was already perceived by contemporaries as ukraine, and why? and because, unlike all the surrounding lands, it was a country, it was the center of statehood, it was the center where the future nation was nurtured, so long ago that we even we do not imagine it, and for so long that it was always hidden from us, and our neighbors always explained that what you want, ukraine is simple, because it is our neighborhood, no, sorry, you are our neighborhood, and this is the center, was, is and will be, and why is it the center, but because it was

a land in which the culture of discussions was always part of the development in... kyiv and veliky novgorod, which had not yet been destroyed by moscow, in chernihiv and pereyaslov, people gathered forever and were ready to express their opinion to the princes at a time when throughout medieval europe this the tradition has long been lost and replaced by the absolute right of the sovereign. we mention the english charter. freedom as the highest achievement of civilization, as an agreement between the nobles and the king, which limited the arbitrariness of the royal power, but this was already after ancient russia itself, which later became ukraine, began to lose its age-old

tradition, that is why this tradition gave the opportunity for the lands of ancient russia to develop, that is why later... statehood appeared on these lands, in which ukrainians were participants and which also meant the exchange of ideas and positions between. those who cared about this statehood, the statehood of the grand duchy of lithuania and even the statehood of the crown, were always those states in which there were opportunities for discussion between society and the government, between the sovereign and those who determined the future development of the country. and what happened to those of our neighbors who are now trying to find us. from the first days of the colonization of northern

russia, from the first days of the creation of the volodymyr-suzdal principality, which later became the moscow principality, and later became the moscow kingdom, and later became the russian empire, and later became the soviet union, and later became the russian federation, that there from the first years... of the development of this land there was a dictatorship, a person who essentially created the statehood of volodymyr suzdal, which means moscow, which was a border fortress, in this principality, andrei bogolyubsky was a dictator, killed by his own subjects, who were tired of his dictatorship. and who threw his body simply for the dogs to eat, and only because it was found

in this principality, some random person from kyiv, that prince was decently buried, because this kyivan, as the ancient chronicles also tell, believed that it was necessary to treat the institutions of power with respect. and there in these lands it was very simple: as long as you are the master, we obey you and do whatever you want, but as soon as we kill you or get rid of you, then let the dogs follow you, this is such a state, a state of hoolis who dream of revenge , and not the statehood of free people, and therefore the question always arises, how to... coexist on the borders with such statehood, where dictatorship and slavery have long since

become a symbiosis. and here again i have to answer the question, what kind of ukraine do we want? and we want a ukraine in which we would not mention russia at all. i still hear all the time from my compatriots that the situation with the russian war and with the future of ukraine will change exactly when russia changes, disintegrates, putin dies, and maybe there will be democracy at all, of course, it is much better to have a neighbor, who does not fire missiles at you than a neighbor who wants you at any moment to destroy, but the ukrainian people cannot depend their entire history on what will happen... in russia, all the principled decisions of the ukrainian people throughout

their recent history, during at least the 20th and 21st centuries, have always been a reaction to what is happening in the russians, the february revolution of 1917 , we declare the autonomy of the ukrainian people's republic, the october coup in... petrograd in 1917, we declare the independence of the ukrainian people's republic. the russian federation adopts a declaration on its state sovereignty, and so does the verkhovna rada the council of ukraine adopts a declaration of its state sovereignty. the russian leadership announces that it has defeated the union center, and now the main figure in moscow will be the president of the russian federation, and the ukrainian parliament will pass the act. independence. putin decides that he can

attack us and annex crimea and start a war in donbas. and a large number of our compatriots understand that we need decommunization, strengthening of the army, independent life. russia starts a big war with us, and a large number of ours compatriots switches from russian to ukrainian. and believes that they do not need more pushkin monuments in every city park. putin is not going to stop the war in... the verkhovna rada of ukraine eventually decides that there should be no churches in ukraine with centers in moscow. well, how long can you, please tell me, how long can you live in this situation of eternal dependence? no, we need, like our neighbors to the west, to live

in such a way that we are interested in how the russian federation is developing, exclusively as... democracy is fine, dictatorship again - we sympathize, we ate each other, we are surprised, we launched a satellite into space, great scientific potential, but we don't care about it, we have our own language, our own history, our own decisions, our own satellites, we need a country that... more was not afraid of an attack from russia, and which would make decisions about its future without paying attention to these processes taking place in the state, which our territories were part of for so long. we should depend on our own capabilities, not on

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high that it must abandon this ambition once and for all, and this is the main meaning of this war in which we are now we live with you, yes, when our troops hold front... in the east, when our troops enter the so-called sovereign territory of the russian federation, when citizens living here in ukraine live in this atmosphere of air alarms, drone flights, infrastructure problems, economic crisis. we do this precisely because we believe that we should receive reliable protection. we deserve this reliable protection, because we are, by and large, the first country in europe in the 21st

century, which, at the expense of the lives of its own citizens, protects the principles of international law that were established after the second world wars, not violating borders by... respect for human life, the ability to solve problems between countries not through war, but through negotiation diplomacy. everything that modern russia has trampled. and tell me why, then we have to be between the world that follows these rules and the country that spits on these rules. this is not a rhetorical question. what questions are our politicians, what are our diplomats, what are the representatives of our civil society, what questions

should our journalists constantly ask our friends in the west, why ukraine actually has one, if we talk not about weapons, not about money, but about people, but what is most valuable are people? stand for all these values ​​that are common to us, only because the western countries are afraid of the threat of the third world war, but if you are not able to protect your values, and the experience of all world conflicts speaks of this, by the way, a world war is inevitable begins western politicians, at the end of the 1930s, were incredibly afraid of a repeat of the second world war, made some agreements with hitler, made some

agreements with stalin, looked for alliances, they were thinking about how to conclude a dialogue so that a new war does not start, and what, in principle, what are they up to. i'm sorry, it happened with hitler and stalin that hitler's army came to warsaw, and the soviet army came to lviv, and the second world war began, all of which, by and large, if we talk about the competition of values, continues today, and i'm sure , that... precisely how the russian-ukrainian war will end will depend on how the world

of the future will look, and this is not some kind of megalomania, and not some desire to place ukraine at the center of world politics, you know that i never engage in such rhetorical techniques, this is just a cold statement of facts if... the democratic world cannot prove that it is capable of protecting its own values, and those countries that choose democracy and their development, he will thus prove the strength of dictatorships and strengthen their ambitions, both in europe, and in asia, and on all continents. you and i understand very well that russia, which could tear ukraine apart. she would not stop at ukraine, she would definitely try to create the so-called soviet union within the borders of 1991, most importantly, it

could... europe in such a way that the europeans themselves would vote for politicians who would promise them to negotiate with putin without fail, and such a europe, by the way, may still emerge could happen if we lose this war and it won't be europe in the 1930s, it will be europe in the 1930s, we'll go back 100 years and... just go back, it happens, so many times there was a time in our history, the history of mankind, when history went backwards and so fast that no one even could understand what is happening and what will happen if ukraine wins, will be able to protect its sovereignty, become a member of nato and the european union, if the civilized world

forces russia to... stop the war, we will live in a world of the triumph of democracy, in a world where parallels between development and democracy will be obvious, in a world where the ambitions of dictatorships will be effectively set to zero, to zero, and not only putin will no longer try to politicize somewhere and conquer something else, but also sidzenpin will stop dreaming about... that he can by military means to destroy democracy in taiwan, but the ayatollahs of iran will not think that they will destroy israel and create the possibility of a new war in the middle east, everyone will realize that an attack on democracy backfires , and this is a choice between worlds. in

which world do we want to live as a result, in the world of democratic development of the 1930s, or in the world of populism, an agreement with russia, the right of the radical dictatorships of the 1930s, do we want to go back, or do we want to go forward? and it depends on this. development of the civilized world as such, and the fate of those who help us today in the war is connected with this, not only our fate, and therefore i confidently say that the future of all of europe and even north america, the power of europe and... america, the ability

of democracy to defend itself. you may remember that since february 2022, i have been saying and writing that if it is not possible to stop the war in ukraine and if it is not possible to stop russia, this war will become globalized. i even named specific cities that would be bombed after. ukrainian cities, i said that the tragedy experienced by kharkiv or mariupol could be repeated tomorrow in kiryat shmon and metula, and let's say my readers in israel did not believe me, but now they do, because these cities are at the epicenter of missile shelling, and today it was a massive missile shelling, and i spoke about it in february, march 200. 22

, and now i repeat again, if this war does not end, it will become more and more globalized and it will be more and more wars, because this is the logic of confrontation democracy dictatorships. i have quoted several times the text written by then speaker of the house of representatives of the us congress, nancy pelosi, when she flew to taiwan. that it believes that it is at the epicenter of conflicts between democracies and dictatorships, and this is the essence of what is happening, and that is why it is globalized and becomes a rather serious challenge for the world in which we live, so stop this war with a russian defeat, a ukrainian victory - this is not only our business, since 2022 i have been saying...