in germany, for the first time since nazism , the far right won the regional elections in the east of the country, what does this mean? themselves for berlin and will it affect the support of ukraine? next on our air, in the studio in london, jafer umerov. the alternative for germany is a political party with far-right views, and it was this one that received the most votes, almost a third in the thuringia region. in second place is the conservative christian democratic union. in another eastern region, saxony, the far-right came second. but it is important to note that... third place in both countries

was taken by sarah wagenknecht's union party, a far-left party that calls for an end to support for ukraine, as well as an alternative for germany. we will talk more about the impact of these elections on support for ukraine a little later, and german chancellor olaf scholz called the results of the regional elections bitter and added that the alternative for germany party harms the country, weakens the economy, divides society and destroys the reputation of germany, and called. parties that passed to the land parliaments, to create coalitions without the ultra-right, about how the elections were held in the following material. their faces speak for themselves, yes, some are reacting to the victory of the far right in the regional elections, the first victory since the second world war. with the news of the election results just announced, the anti-afg rally participants are outraged, and you can hear it over there. the building of the land parliament, where

now the alternatives for germany will have more influence. it's just that the fascists are winning now, i'm not a fan of claims that history repeats itself, because i don't think so, but sometimes historical events are similar, and this is what is happening now. i am very worried, next year in germany there will be general elections for the parliament. so i 'm looking at it now...to check before the upcoming vote. this is the leader of the alternative for germany in thuringia, a rather controversial figure, björn hecke. he has been fined twice for knowingly using a nazi slogan, although he denies it. this is how he declares a historic victory. to celebrate the victory of the alternative for germany journalists were not allowed, while party representatives often claim persecution.

the party's policy of ending military aid to ukraine and tough anti-immigration statements are gaining more and more popularity here. politicians promised a lot, especially regarding migrants and foreigners, but did nothing, nothing. given german history, some are genuinely concerned about the rise in support. german history is history, we live here and now. and while the alternative for germany is celebrating victory in the capital of thuringia take a night run. most likely, the party will be in opposition, because all others have ruled out any cooperation with it, and the results of these elections have become a marker of changes in germany. thuringia region viewers believe. one of

the strongholds of the far-right alternative for germany party, but what will their victory mean, whether they can government, the bbc's damian mcguinness in berlin, next. what we see in germany is that alternative for germany won a historic victory, in thuringia, their wotchina, they got the most votes. saxony took second place place, this coincided with earlier predictions, an alternative for... niemeny says this means they should now lead the government. however, according to the rules of the german system, they must first form their coalition, but this party in the east of germany in thuringia is particularly radical, it is so toxic that no other political forces will work with it. it seems that the adn will not be able to form a coalition government and, accordingly, enter it. adn leaders claim that... it is not

democratic, but it is not. the essence of german democracies: you have to form a coalition to lead the government, whether you are the first or the last, but... of course, this creates a huge problem for the stability of the government, because if a third of the seats in the parliament belong to one party, no one will to work, it will be very difficult for the other parties to form a majority, because they all have very different views, and in thuringia, the conservatives will most likely have to form a coalition government with the radical left, and this is not unheard of, it will definitely have an impact on the whole of germany, because three... rulers olaf scholz's parties in his national coalition did very poorly in regional elections in east germany. they are very worried now, because next year there are national elections and each of the parties that are part of this tripartite

ruling coalition is fighting at the national level. i think that over the next year, they will be even more distant from each other, trying to defend themselves more persistently. their positions, so i think at the regional level it could cause a lot of instability at the level of the whole country, this is bad news for olaf scholz's national ruling coalition. and more about how this can affect german policy and support for ukraine, let's talk with the international political scientist, senior analyst of the scientific center, the western institute of upovznanny and viktor savinok with us . greetings victor. thuringia and saxony have already voted, brandenburg will vote in two weeks, and according to the polls , the ultra-right is also leading there . earth, in

which elections are held, regional and, in principle, by themselves, federal states do not influence foreign policy, this is not their competence, but really a question. of foreign policy, which concern both the support of ukraine and, for example, the placement of american tomahawk missiles on the territory of germany, were a topic that was very actively discussed and exploited by low political forces during this campaign, and this applies not only to the alternative for germany, but also to the mentioned you, too, in the story of sara vanich's union. well, viktor, before that ask the next question, let's listen. we have columnist markus zinner, who explains the rapid growth of the popularity of the far right in these regions. both political forces and sara

wagenhnecht's far-right and far-left alliance capture certain moods of society and try to convey east german sentiment, nostalgia for the gdr, the former east german socialist state. this is one component, the second, of course, is migration. in the eastern part of germany, people believe that there are too many migrants and they need to stop. there are it is somewhat ironic that in the eastern part, where there are not so many migrants, people strongly vote against the stay of migrants in germany, or against increasing their number. when it comes to the wealth and well-being of people in the east, of course, there is a certain drawback. people who lived in the former gdr are not as well -off as in the west. parts look at how much money is passed down from generation to generation. 90% of everything that the next generation inherits happens in the western part of germany, not the eastern part. so there is a structural division and people feel left out. i

believe that other things play an important role here. if you look at russia, sympathy for russia. there, people are still nostalgic for the past life, but they forget what we were like... it was under the oppression of the gdr. if we talk about general elections, the people who voted for adn are a small part of germany. voting was held in two regions. another election will be held in three weeks, this is less than 10% of the entire population of germany. therefore, probably do not exaggerate their success. but on the other hand, if we look at berlin, it is a heavy blow for the ruling coalition. all three parties together did not score even 20%. votes, so i think it will be difficult for olaf scholz to remain the candidate of the social democrats next year, because he does not have the leadership qualities and charisma to lead the social democratic party to the finish line. viktor savinok, we've just heard from columnist markus zinnor, who said that for

chancellor olav scholz's party, the social democrats, this was a heavy blow, in both lands, they gained a little more than six and 7%. votes, that makes her fifth on the list in both regions, what does that mean for them? this means that if their ability to... any significant political influence in these lands, i.e. in thuringia taxonia, would be significantly reduced, in brandenburg the situation looks more optimistic for the social democrats, but in this case the personal rating of the prem plays its role the era of that federal state, the social democrat didmar wojtke, who actually now ensures that the social democrats have, in principle, a chance to that... would have either the second or the third result according to the results of the elections, which

will be held on the 20th of september. in the elections in thuringia in the 14th year, ah, the far-right won a little more than 10%, and after 10 years, more than 30%. a similar situation in saxony, but can the results of these elections affect the results of the general election? which will take place next year, it must be said that the population share of both saxony, thuringia and brandenburg is relatively small, and we will have to look at what the results are for germany and the union saar wagentnih will recruit in more populated regions, such as, for example, north rhine-westphalia, bavaria, baden-württemberg and so on, and accordingly, then it is already possible to design more or less. their results at the federal level, so far at the federal level, they still do not have

such, in principle, high results, as shown by the elections in saxony or thuringia. and how do you explain this rapid increase in support for both the far-right and the far-left in these regions? the first soyuz sagentnyk can hardly be called ultra-left, their regge you can can be described as a left-conservative political force, due to the fact that, on the one hand , it combines such a social agenda, which is aimed at increasing social spending and so on, but on the other hand, its position is quite conservative when it comes to migration questions and so on, so that it fills such a niche, that is precisely the left-conservative force, and therefore it plays on the social side accordingly. on the one hand, they are dissatisfied with inflation and rising prices, and on the other hand, they are also playing on migration issues.

the alternative for germany has, in fact, been doing the same for 10 years since its founding in 2013, playing on public discontent with a whole range of phenomena, from the aftermath of the economic crisis of the late 2000s to the aftermath. the grace crisis of the 2010s and also the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine, which was connected with the influx of ukrainian refugees to germany, and with spending on military aid to ukraine, and ultimately, with the fact that gazprom stopped supplying natural gas to germany and also speculated on the european gas markets, which caused fuel prices to rise. well , the alternative for... now this party has grown in support among the youth, how can you

explain that, is it the fact that the alternative for germany is quite active in promoting its presence on various new channels, such as various social networks, in particular they have used the that in the elections to the european parliament that took place. in the summer of this year, in june it was possible to vote for persons over the age of 16, and accordingly the alternative germany began to speak to them where they spend a lot of time, that is, for example, in tiktok, where uh, if the older political forces were practically not present, and besides, the alternative for germany is also not particularly concerned with various facts. viktor, unfortunately, there is not enough time, viktor savinok, senior analyst of the scientific center, western institute,

and that's all for today, and we will be on the air tomorrow at 9, take care.

a new week, the second part, and we return to the live air, khrystyna yatskiv and... we usually take two topics, three topics, those topics that concern you, which concern us, which concern the whole country, which are important for our country, which can be said to be life-creating for our country, and we talk, discuss, think about what to do, how to solve

these issues, we focus on problems, in short, 40 minutes, be with the espresso tv channel and we will talk, but first of all, i will remind you about our survey that we are conducting today, do you support lowering the mobilization age to 50, because the corresponding petition has gained the necessary the number of votes, it means that there is a certain public opinion, if you think so 0.800 200 11 300... 81, if you think no, 0800 211 382, ​​your calls from your smartphones, phones are absolutely free, and at the end of this hour we will sum up . well, let's start, let 's just start, well, let's start, probably a little so far, but now you will understand

what i'm getting at, we all watched last week the reflections of ukrainian society on the main theses voiced at the president's press conference of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, and almost the brightest, i don't know, the brightest episode of this press conference, it was a question and an answer to this question from the president, we are talking about the journalist of ukrainian pravda roman kravets, who frankly asked about the team about people who are in various positions full-time and part-time. are held in the president's office, and the president must have been affected, because the answers were extremely emotional, it was about oleg tatarov, there is even such a meme from the comedian tymoshenko, just a few months ago he recorded a song, and it says

about the fact that he understands what autumn is for us, he understands what the sun is for us, but he cannot understand why we do this... tatarov, it turns out, we need tatarov, at least so that the russians do not kill him, so that he was involved in the destruction, as i understand it, of the kadyriv family in kyiv, while roman kravets and his colleagues were allegedly not in kyiv at the beginning of the large-scale invasion, you know all this very well without us, but what about me, what about me it caught my eye, already after this incident, roman had a conversation in... the project with with his colleagues, and he shared his impressions a little, he says: i felt such a personal dislike for myself, i did not understand why, and he says, i have the impression that the president is being turned against journalists, as if we are some crazy enemies there, forgetting really that it's the nature of our profession

to ask some questions that might be uncomfortable just because you're the president, it's not a question of whether we're... journalists good or bad, it's a question of whether you in the position of president, there will be another on the position of the president, he will answer pressing questions, and so on and so forth, and in general, this topic has stirred a discussion in society on the topic of personnel, we understand that the right of the president is to appoint or remove representatives of the military command in our country, and this is absolutely it's normal, no one, no one reproaches, no one infringes on this right. but i would like to have a certain logic, and when i read such a half-humorous e -tweet that olyschuk probably did not kill kadyrivtsy, that's why he was ... and was released in that time, how the tatar killed, and he cannot be released under any circumstances, because the russians will kill, but olyshchuk will not, the matter is not

only olyshchuk, the matter is what is happening at the personnel level, in many, let's say so , the vectors of our country's existence in general, certain things that people do not quite understand, and the logic of both removal from positions and appointments, i would like to communicate it somehow... more openly, probably with us, if not openly, then at least you know, specifically, because well, i think that hardly anyone took it seriously, and that too the problem, because these are the words of our president, taking tatarov's role in the first weeks of the large-scale invasion on faith, how do you see this whole story in view of the continuation of this topic, so the first position? when we talk about journalists, or when we talk about dismissals and appointments in general, especially for those positions that are

important for society and that are extremely indicative in the journalistic environment, in the expert environment, the first thing must be publicity, so we must always understand , that the president and... and people's deputies of ukraine, both officials and ministers who are called to the verkhovna rada meeting, they do not come, they do not report, they must understand one thing: transparency is a guarantee that the government communicates with society, but khrystyna just mentioned olyschuk, well, here, in general, the issue is quite delicate , because... the reaction of society somehow reminded me of the reaction when zaluzhnyi was released, or when zaluzhnyi was released, i saw a lot of posts, and even more, i saw a lot of comments, uh,

where people did not understand, and why one of the most successful military men managers who has merits, why he is fired, explain, i answered this question for myself, now so many months have passed since february, that in terms of, in terms of meritorious service, maybe. answered, but we have the next case, we have lyschuk, and the worst thing is that for some reason it is starting to correlate with other statements, for example, maryana bezugla, here we are before the direct ater began, khrystyna and i mentioned bezugla, about her post, by the way, was a post that allegedly referred to her downing by the ukrainian anti-aircraft missile system patriot m... already the ukrainian f-16 plane, and i said one thing: and where is maryana from bezugla could

have known at all about the results of the investigation as of the third or fourth day after this plane crash, because the results of the investigation can only be at least a few months away, who has even a little knowledge of what an investigation is, what an investigative pro... process is, what such involvement of various structures, especially in such a difficult situation, when a plane crashes, when a missile hits somewhere, let's say, a huge number of examinations are required, that is, maryana bezula could not know on the third day what caused plane crash, at the same time yesterday an article appears in an american newspaper according to the new york times. in which it is said that the american side is not sure that, more precisely, the american side is sure that it was not the patriot who shot down the f-16 plane, or

it was hardly a second fire, and, that is, why is this happening? and, by the way, the same article mentions that now ukrainian and american experts are working to clearly understand what is going on. and in this case, i would really hate to believe that maryana became cornerless once again such an informational torpedo, an informational duck for the dismissal of lyschuk, who was most likely being prepared for dismissal from his post for several months in a row, or even six months. considering all this information, the entire array of this information, by the way, one more piece of information that has appeared. in zmi, not that in zmi, but which has actually become available to all our citizens, this is the appointment of such a

smooth gentleman, huh. i am right now, even in order not to be silent, now the commander of the unmanned systems forces, roman gladky, who was accused there of a whole series of certain issues, for example, we did not get the publicity we would have liked for him, and also now, for example, there is a problem with the possible dismissal of mr. kudrytskyi, yes, the number of questions to officials who are not report to the verkhovna rada, i mean, including the ministers, there are also a huge number of questions, for example, to the head of the anti-monopoly committee, and, that is, we find ourselves in a situation where ubu, in the sap, with journalists who investigate these these are all

issues, crimes. there is a huge amount of evidence that certain officials have broken the law, and at the same time we don't see any publicity, we don't get an explanation why these officials stay in their positions and why other, uh, officials are removed from their positions, so i don't i don't see any problem in the fact that journalists ask questions, are interested, as they say, dig further, understand the... situation, and this cannot be an element of insult, this is the work of journalists, this is the work of law enforcement agencies. i believe that these explanations, this discussion with society, this communication with society, and even more, society's reaction to the potential crimes of certain officials, the absence of this reaction, it gives rise to.

that people get frustrated, that people can't understand how this can be in the third year of a full-scale invasion, and why we still have tainted individuals in charge of some departments, that's the number one issue, and i still hope that even there by high offices will be reached, despite the fact that we are under martial law, despite... the fact that it is not everything, as they say, needs to be told now, this communication with society is needed, regarding roman hladky, who was appointed chief of the staff of unmanned systems, let us remind you that this new type of military in our country is headed by sukharevskiy, and the armed forces of ukraine, in general, commented on this appointment, and analysts,

in particular, dibstate was reminded that he has... a certain back from the naval forces, well , well, the big question is how much, how much a person is really competent and in this particular field, but i think that will be answered by well, firstly, time, and secondly, for this those who still lobbied for his appointment have an answer, i really hope that sukharevskyi, who is currently managing the forces of unmanned systems, in general... will also join in order to remove a little, well, a veil in general from the eyes of society, from understanding that , what is happening in the eyes of society, here i will quote tetyana danylenko again: the system of censorship and military censorship works interestingly in the modern open world. if journalists don't know something, don't understand it, or deliberately don't report it supposedly for the benefit of the state, the truth doesn't matter comes out, and from the most strange and unexpected places to an unprepared audience,

which after that... believes anything that contradicts the officialdom, tanya adds a screenshot from maryana bezuglai's page to this post of hers. mrs. maryana just recently also resorted to the analysis of the general correctness or expediency of moving and transferring our most combat-ready brigades from one direction to another and so on, and here, excuse me, even the official spokesmen and the operative spokesmen did not remain silent. the grouping of tavriy dmytro lykhova's troops is also very brief and carefully emphasized that after what was said about the 72nd brigade, in principle it makes no sense to talk about the fact that there were any plans at all about the redirection of the forces of this brigade, in a word, journalists cannot, people's deputies, who may disrupt entire military operations , something is possible and...