mrs. tatiana, i hope that after all you said that we will never know, i hope that one day we will find out who was behind what, that i will remind you, you know, let it be soviet literature, but at one time such my character, how korean got rich precisely in the war, got rich very well, well, i hope that those who get rich in some way in our existential war against the existential enemy will respond sooner or later, thank you very much for joining, thank you for your comments, tatyana nikolayenko was with us member of the public anti-corruption council. at the ministry of defense of ukraine. well, now we're moving on to the news, and in just a moment i'll tell you about what happened today. vitaly portnikov, khrystyna yatskiv, andriy smoliy and invited experts based on facts give their assessment and forecast of the development of events. do you want to understand? how our today will affect

our tomorrow, see the saturday politics club, every saturday on espresso. greetings, this is svoboda live on radio svoboda. we have already come to the snake itself. the following shots can help you shock. news from the scene. live drone attacks, kamikaze. political analytics. objectively and meaningfully. there is no political season. interesting interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front. freedom life frankly and impartially. you draw your own conclusions. good evening, we are from ukraine. and here we were talking about the fact that the enemy struck kiev in the morning, and the enemy continues to strike...

kharkiv, unfortunately, the number of injured as a result of the attack by the rashists on kharkiv had previously increased to 14, the state media reported emergency services of ukraine. the occupiers captured one of the high places. the object of the sports infrastructure was damaged. the attackers also targeted the territory of the garage cooperative with guided aerial bombs. windows were broken in houses nearby, the heating line was also damaged, that is, the enemy immediately struck schools, logistics , infrastructure, and transport. and along the residential area, where it actually flew. and it was restless in the dnipropetrovsk region, the russians directed kamikaze drones and barrel artillery to the nikopol district. four civilians were wounded - said the head of the regional military administration , serhiy lesak. several private houses were damaged, five garden houses and the infrastructure affected an economic building and the power line caught fire. the flames were extinguished. and a 60-year-old

man, who was injured during the day due to a blow to a woman, unfortunately died in the hospital, two more civilians were hospitalized, said the head of the kherson city military administration , roman myrochko. according to him, in kherson, attackers are hunting peaceful residents from drones the surveillance camera recorded the moment when the explosives were dropped from the drone. people heard the sound of the aircraft, thanks to which they luckily managed to escape. well, actually, we remember that the enemy did approximately the same thing, say, in vovchansk, when he tried to enter a ukrainian city, he simply hunted civilians, throwing these drops on people who did not pose any threat, at least for of the russian army, for the country of the aggressor, hindered the professional activities of journalists, the state bureau of investigation reported the suspicion to an official of the migration service, in july media representatives of one of the information... agencies

came to a hotel and entertainment complex in ivano-frankivsk region, they wanted to get a comment from the head of the migration service department about the large fortunes of his family members, but he refused to talk and broke the correspondents' video camera. the suspect did not answer the journalists' questions and deliberately hit the video camera in the operator's hands, damaging it. the sanction of the article provides for a fine of up to 50 non-tax... them minimum incomes of citizens, or arrest for a term of up to six months, or restriction of freedom for a term of up to three years. currently, the question of selecting a preventive measure for the suspect is being resolved. the process of european integration against pressure on zmi in kyiv discussed the challenges to freedom of speech during the war. the representative of the european commission, ethanel tang, noted ukraine's adoption of the law on media and the revision of the law on advertising and assured that the european commission would monitor it. how these laws will

be implemented. the experts also reminded that the ukrainian media still are under pressure and threatened not only by the russian enemy. in detail. first of all, this is the system of our financial expenses, that is, what could be directed to development, to the implementation of the provisions of the law on media, more funding of quality content on a competitive basis, mainly either goes to the armed forces, or is quite often abused by the authorities, directs to those channels that are, one might say, state, in our country. unfortunately, under the guise of martial law, a lot of bad things are pumped out, in particular, political censorship in they try to explain to us the necessity of martial law, when they close the tv channels, in particular the espresso, direct and fifth tv channels, they are still thrown out of the

t2 digital broadcasting system. why? these are pro-ukrainian patriotic channels that work within the legislative framework, there is no question regarding them from the point of view of legislation. he was in russian captivity for almost 28 months. during the last exchange , 22-year-old defender orest kolyada was released from polon. his mother found out about it simply during a peaceful rally in the center of sokal, in the lviv region. as a woman was waiting for her son to return, our correspondents will tell. from 2021, orest kolyada served in kherson oblast. as part of the 35th separate brigade of marines, after the start of a full-scale war, he was evacuated to the zaporizhzhia region, the defender was only 20 years old. on april 30, 2022, when the boy was near the village of vremivka, in donetsk region, the connection with him was lost, recalls

mother oksana. we had an agreement, if you don't have a way to call, you don't have a way to talk to me, then you put some happy smiley, class or some some kind of smile and such, i send him a smile in the morning, there is nothing, i send him something again in the evening, nothing that it doesn't even get there. in may 2022, oksana kolyada saw a photo of her son on the russian telegram channel. in a few months, the propagandists published his interrogation, the russians kept orest in four different colonies. at the beginning, he got to olenivka and then. there was that terrorist act, we were very worried, because we did not know that later, when he came out, he said that they were ahead were taken out, taken out to taganrog, and in that taganrog it was the worst, our prisoners were abused there, the first conversation with her son

happened only in december 2023, after that ms. oksana began to actively fight for his return, on the independence day of ukraine, august 24 came to another... rally, she knew that on this day an exchange of prisoners between the russians and ukrainians was planned, her son was among the 115 released soldiers. i am very worried, orez has been released, godmother oresta, mrs. svitlana, told her the good news they called from the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war, when a woman was going to join a... peaceful action, and they gave me a microphone, and then it suddenly became difficult for me to speak, and i start, start, then the main words are the orist released, and then some congratulations , that's all, i see the eyes of those mothers, the rest are standing and looking at their wives, children, i really wished them all such a cool message,

the participants began to congratulate and hug mrs. oksana, then a call from orest sounded, the first thing he said during conversations: mom, me at home, we were just riding the bus, oh, she says, mom, we were mistaken, they finally changed us into normal clothes, fed us, mom, i ate so deliciously, while orest kolyada is being examined in the rehabilitation center, ms. oksana is waiting for the moment when will finally be able to hug his son and cook him something delicious. kateryna oliynyk, andriy polikovskyi, espresso tv channel.

now we will talk about cyber security and telegram separately and specifically, because it is quite an influential, influential platform in ukraine, not only in ukraine, and the question of to bring to light a... individual owners of certain channels, millionaires, maybe not even millionaires, but hundreds

of thousands, in general somehow to normalize the work of telegram in ukraine, not to ban it completely, now we are not talking about that, well, let's go about the initiative that is currently in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, let's listen to people's deputy of ukraine mykola knyazhytskyi. i registered draft law 1115, it is not about banning telegrams, because they cannot be banned. technical telegram and other networks, and ukraine is not communist china and not putin's russia, where they are trying to isolate themselves from the world with a digital wall. the main norms that i propose, firstly, there must be an official representation in ukraine or a state of the european union, moderation of content related to pornography, drugs, justifications of russian aggression, etc., must be, the structure of ownership and sources of funding must be disclosed, in case of refusal - a ban on use by official bodies. well, actually, how cyber-safe we ​​are, how dangerous

telegram is, and not only telegram will be discussed speech, and in general about the fact that the enemy continues to actively fight against ukraine not only on the fronts, not only with rockets on power grids and residential buildings, not only with terror, but also through social media, well , this is what we are talking about now. kostyantyn korsun is with us, a cyber security expert, mr. kostyantyn, i welcome you. congratulations, let's know where to start, once the idea of ​​what the russian cyber war against ukraine is, it was prigozhin's trolls and the st. petersburg eyes, there are all kinds of their eyes, the bases where the trolls sat and they just attacked ukraine, as soon as they could attack it there, and what is the cyber threat from russia today, how can it be defined, how is it possible... has it changed during the period of a full-scale war? fundamentally, it

has not changed at all, if you count the beginning of the cyber war, which is traditionally considered to be may 2014, when the attack on the central election commission was carried out, and the election results were changed there, but well, there is a complicated case, but it is a countdown, the beginning of a big countdown. cyber war, which has been going on for 10 years, and in principle the goals and its methods remain the same as they were, and this, first of all, is to influence people's cities, for example, to hack a website, conditionally presidents and place fake information there, which people will believe, will be disappointed in the government , and well, according to putin , they will go... there to overthrow this government, that is, yes, the second aspect is purely intelligence,

to penetrate the networks of critical infrastructure, state, military institutions, any valuable organizations, and download information, including databases data, correspondence to with purely intelligence purposes, including military ones, and there is also a third aspect, which is quite... among the most important aspects of cyberwar, it is through information technologies to exert a kinetic influence on critical infrastructure, for example, to stop the operation of a power plant, for example, to stop the supply of water to a large city, ah, and similar results, there are quite a few examples in history, and starting with the iranian nuclear program, the virus. taksnet and literally there a couple of years ago the israeli group predatory sparrow

stopped and caused explosions and even a big fire at a steel plant in iran. and in our history , there are examples when prykarpattia oblenergo stopped power supply in the ivano-frankivsk region for 6 hours due to a hacker attack for more than 200 thousand people there and that's it. petya, we remember the attack on kyivstar, that is, these are kinetic consequences, so this is something that a large number of people will feel, not only people. who are leading cybercriminals there, well, and knowledgeable in some technologies, so that, well, all three of these big goals, they remain relevant, and i think that they will remain relevant for a long time, well, the question here is of course technical capabilities, i remember very well that by the way,

our partners immediately took up the task of restoring the telegram, well, they actively helped, specialists, that is it was somehow managed... no, well , it was quickly overcome, but again, this is a question of certain programs, a question of specialists who know how not to work, well, it’s the same battlefield, it’s just that there are specifics there, and you also need to understand the protection, which is constantly should be new, so that it is not penetrated, there are the same missiles, enemy information, which can penetrate the defense, this is one issue in that, again, specialists must work here to secure, we have seen this, as you know, these blockbusters, they quite often show what a... really powerful hacker attacks are, it's like in a movie there is a strong nut, four or five parts, when they stopped the tunnels, turned off the lights, made a collapse in the middle of the city, also the movie recently, the world is behind us, when the tesla cars themselves are there they drove into something, they flew into it, when someone got into the software of cars that have an autonomous system, well, there

are many options here, but now let's talk about those things that a person picks up a phone every day. well , in particular, this is the issue of telegram, rightly said mykola knyazhytskyi, the author of the bill on the regulation of telegram in ukraine, that we cannot and will not ban it, because we are not north korea and not putin's russia, but in your opinion, any how much of an enemy, in your estimation, again the same facts, how active and dangerous the enemy is in telegram times, and how possible you really see in rationing. at least these resources, channels, telegram channels, so that we understand that they also work according to certain rules, and the enemy, for the enemy, this is the main information platform, in fact, because all other platforms are restricted, all american social networks, american messengers and not those, well, coming from the civilized world,

let's say, the only thing that is popular in warring ukraine is telegram. and mega-popular, there, according to various estimates, from 70 to 80% of ukrainians use it in one way or another, either as a messenger or as a social network, this is the main battleground of russian propaganda, fakes, disinformation, special information operations, ah, and well, this is mega important for them, so the problems of udurov and the problems with telegram, which are looming, obviously, and accordingly, telegram will no longer be... apparently, it will never be the same as it was before , and that is why all this worries the russians very much, and that is why they are very active in this are engaged in, is it possible to normalize, i first of all not sure that the proposed blueberry bill 5, ah, that it will pass in the upper

council, and there are, i also have conceptual comments, because it applies not only to ... but to all social networks, that is, we will demand for mark zuckerberg to show the structure of ownership in detail the last one, so whether he will do it, for example, i don’t know, i’m not sure, we will also force, the states of america mark zuckerberg was forced to explain his activities during the presidential election, well, that is, forced, but this but usa this as they say, the bastion of democracy, well, if they force it there, well, so do we. in principle, we can ask for similar things, well, the point is not even that ukraine is very much not the usa, the point is that the meta corporation is registered in the usa, well, accordingly , it pays taxes in the usa, and the american market is much more important for them than the whole another world, especially some ukraine, and also

to keep an office in a warring country, where he flies regularly, sorry, yes, well, they probably are. will find reasons not to do it, but whether they want to, yes, and this also applies to youtube, google, i.e. this is also twitter, elon musk, well, i.e. the bill in this form, it does not talk about telegram, it talks about all platforms, dissemination of information, somehow such and such wording, ah, show the ownership structure, well no , i don't know if maybe some corporations will want to say, well, you know, it's too expensive somehow, we, we don't care about you, if you focus on telegram, and we understand very well that there are, let's say, telegram channels , well, here i am, for example, there... anxiety in the morning, i watch andrii smolii's telegram channel tv channel espresso telegram channel there nikolaev vanyok another one i look where it is flying i am interested in explanations comments

emotions i am interested in watching and i trust those telegram channels that clearly tell me where it is flying from which direction i understand which part of the apartment to run to and where it will explode well, that is , away from the explosion, it’s one story, and here these telegram channels collect huge donations for the army, it’s okay, there is a channel that deals with black pr, which throws in, throws in certain information, and when the question it arises to ask, yes, but no one knows who it is, well, there is some joker, some poker, some half-poker, you do not understand at all that, well, a million subscribers do not understand who this is, and why then the espresso tv channel should answer and answer to by law, is responsible for his license, because he is a zmi, so he is actually a zmi, but there should be responsibility, because major ivanov from the russian fsb can be behind those... pokers and half-pokers and throw this information or hold on to strings of some sydorenko in ukraine, who will give

honor of the fsb major, you understand, the main thing in this matter is how realistic it is to do it, and whether it is necessary, because the same anonymous people, millions of people read this delusion and believe it, they are not here, well, not all people have critical thinking thinking, well, the state must somewhere. to turn on their administrative levers, mechanisms, i understand the concern, but the internet itself is popular all over the world, mega-popular, much more television, for example, traditional, because it allows more freedom, more anonymity, more privacy, more privacy, there is, well, if you are subscribed to someone there on facebook or on youtube, or on twitter, instagram, then it is not there either, full passport data is not indicated, and it is not legally required or regulated in any way, that is, anonymous authors can

to create ways of spreading, conveying one's vision of freedom of speech through any channels on the internet, and fortunately, all this is not yet regulated, well, except for some countries except china and the dprk, that is, freedom of the internet still remains a top priority, but here i am... distinguish among conditionally anonymous ones channels on telegram, on youtube, on twitter, on facebook, on instagram, here it is a different plane of the issue, state regulation will not help here, and they will not be effective, i understand that there are mass media that fall under the relevant legislation and are responsible, and there is no responsibility in telegram channels, and that is why our aggressive federation is fighting there, but the internet is still a more or less

regulated field, and anonymity is completely allowed in it, and it is not any kind of problem in general, in no country is there such a question as to deanonymize the entire internet, well, except in the dprk, perhaps, but... but in some way to reduce the influence, well, among the real means, here is the reduction of russian propaganda in telegram, i can seriously consider only the change of owner, because as long as a russian fool with a russian passport and assets in russia with russian kremlin money will continue to manage telegram, it is unlikely that anything fundamentally will change there, so after... detention in france, most likely in telegram there will be some moderation, how effective it will be, it is difficult to say, but nothing radical, i am sure, ah, the same

attitude towards ukraine will not be any special, because durov closely, most likely closely cooperates with the kremlin and their by the special services, because he takes money from them, and they threaten him with murder, he wants to move freely around the world, for example, that's why... he is powerfully on the hook there, he will probably comply with some mandatory regulations, even if the ukrainian bill, which we are talking about, will be adopted in the version that it currently exists, then he will fulfill the requirements, but purely formally, for example, the obligation to consider, so he will consider them, what decision will be made, his discretion, hardly , that is, mm, even if this law. the draft law will still become a law, it will not greatly limit russian propaganda, as it is not limited very much, well, limited, but not

completely in... youtube, facebook, there are also pro-russian trolls, they are just more veiled and less frank, less stupid they write some, and more subtle, there is the concept of war, but let's say, sooner or later we will come to a period, for example, elections, and again information will appear about who killed my brother, who else did something there, and well there at least it was possible to ask with some responsibility who came up with such a delusion and to sue. so, conditionally speaking, they say, i am going, well, for example, conditionally, i am going to the deputies of some city council there, and they tell me that vasyl zima killed my great-aunt there , which, well, for example, is not there, then there is , ok, but relatively speaking, did you still steal 2 billion during the war, build yourself, as they once said about yatsenyuk, 150 villas in miami, and you don’t know who to turn to, and the rumor in the village, as they say, went, the problem with this is that you need to at least know who this person is, in general, to whom

to sue whom, if possible... please, even if you find out the surname, patronymic of this person, then it will be quite difficult to associate that this nickname is in the telegram, he answers, well, prove it legally, and therefore, well, yes, it will be so, and nothing can be done about it it is possible, because the fundamental principles of the functioning of the internet remain the same, the free distribution and... of information and minimal regulation of the state, in a word, the only thing is to work on yourself, train people to develop analytical thinking and simply not become a victim of people who think that you are a stupid person. thank you very much, thank you for your comments, professionals, thank you for participating, take care, konstantin corson, cyber security expert, we also talked about the draft law that is currently in the council regarding certain regulation, and in the telegram, well,

in general. really, everything depends on us, we choose what we eat, and we are what we eat, informational as well, and did you wait for oleksandr morchyvka for money during the war, oleksandr, please, have a word, good evening, good evening, vasyl, i congratulate the audience, we finally waited for the result, the president signed the bill on increasing excise taxes on fuel, what does this mean for us ordinary consumers, also from today the national cashback initiative starts working, what is it in detail, everything in a moment wait this is a column about money during the war, i am oleksandr morshevka, and i will discuss with you in the near future the economic situation of today. so, this week , the power outages may be eased, oleksandr kharchenko, director of the energy research center, said. according to him, on wednesday-thursday, it is expected that the current will be turned off in one turn, or

they will not be used at all. no shutdown, the expert noted that the restoration of the power system is now happening quite quickly, because during a massive attack on infrastructure a week ago , the physical protection of energy facilities was activated, so the equipment was damaged, but not seriously enough, and this is really positive news. the national cashback program for consumers was launched in ukraine today, it will allow you to receive 10%. compensation for the fact that you and i buy goods of ukrainian manufacturers, in order to participate, you need to give permission to the bank to transfer your data, issue a special online card. more than 300 manufacturers and more than 20,000 different retailers have already joined the program points cashback funds can be used to pay for utilities,

for example, to pay. for sports or going to the cinema or the theater, well, this kind of initiative is really interesting, we tried to talk about it last week, to figure out how it will work, today i went to the online banking application, and my bank is already offering me to register, transfer data, create an online card and participate in this program and it is possible to receive the so -called cashback over time, well, i will try already in... in the evening in i will do this in my spare time. and the control of cash flows is getting stronger. ukrposhta banned payment in cash for parcels from fops. such transfers can be paid only to the entrepreneur's card or current account. ukrposhta reported that they are implementing the decision of the national bank in this way. he made changes to.