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poltava, more than 50 people died there, as a result of the ballistic attack by russian missiles, this morning, we will turn to our military and political experts so that they can predict and comment on the message about the possibility of allowing ukraine to be killed by their weapons on the territory of the russian federation, and of course we will not change it. with his attention to personnel appointments, future personnel appointments in shmyhal's government. that's all. during the next two hours , the first part of our program will feature veterans of the russian-ukrainian war yevhen dyky, political scientist oleg sahakyan, and the director of the institute of world politics, yevhen magda. however , before starting our big conversation, i suggest you watch a video of how ukrainian... fighters repelled another

russian assault in the kurakhiv direction, aerial reconnaissance of the 79th separate airborne assault brigade of the tauriyya brigade discovered an enemy column still far away on the approaches, so the gunners and operators of attack drones greeted the invaders who struck them , the attackers began to flee and deploy their equipment, let's see how it all happened.

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please leave it in the comments under this video. let's start with the tragic news of today's russian attack on poltava, the death toll has reached 51, more than 200 people were injured, two russian iskander m ballistic missiles partially destroyed one of the buildings of the communications institute, a hospital, neighboring houses, the investigation is ongoing collapsed, and the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky ordered a full and prompt investigation of all the circumstances of what happened in poltava, let's listen to what the supreme commander of the armed forces said. of ukraine. one of the buildings of the communications institute was partially destroyed. people found themselves under the rubble, many were rescued. i have ordered a full and prompt investigation into all the circumstances of what happened.

all necessary services are involved in the rescue operation. we say over and over to everyone in the world who has the power to stop this one. air defense systems and missiles for them are needed in ukraine, and not stored somewhere there. bright memory to those who died from the russian strikes today in poltava, and death to the russian occupiers. friends, i want to introduce our first guest today is yevhen dykiy, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, former platoon commander of aidar battalion, head of the national antarctic science center, mr. yevhen. i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. well, first of all, let's start with the situation in the kurdish direction, we will now call this operation the kurdish direction of the armed forces of ukraine. zelenskyi says that everything is going according to plan, and she is

already in the pokrovsky direction, as he says for two days there has been no enemy advance, and what exactly the president of ukraine said in detail, let's listen to the operation, yes, it is fulfilling its tasks and going according to plan. as for the difficulties in the pokrovsky-toretsk direction, yes, we see, we, we, we believe that the kurdish operation may also affect this direction, where there may be a decrease, an exacerbation, due to the decrease in the number of russian troops, but... so far we see that it is difficult there. mr. yevgeny, yesterday putin mentioned the kurdish operation of the armed forces of ukraine, and in this context started talking again about the possibility of negotiations between kyiv and moscow. how, in your opinion, should

the operation in kursk region end? the operation in the kursk region, like other operations of the armed forces of ukraine, should end with a military victory over the russian federation. so if you are interested in the details of the operation in kurshchyna, then i'm sorry, neither you nor i know what the actual plan of this operation is, and by the way, one of the secrets of the success of this operation is that it began unexpectedly for everyone, that it was successfully prepared precisely in in the mode of complete radio silence, as it is called, and not like some other operations, which were discussed for months in social networks, and only then began, and we saw how such well-announced and obsmo ended. condition literally from all sides of the operation, and we can see how the events on the course are developing. i really hoped that, by the way, it would teach us a little, well, no, it didn't. all the same, our society wants to play syrskyi ibragilevich every day, but every day to admire the deep state maps and try,

at the level of its incompetence and lack information, predict various strategic things. to be honest, i'm already trying to talk about it with a smile. how kind, but in general, well, i don’t know, when we go to the doctors, it doesn’t mean that we consider all doctors to be geniuses of surgery there at amosamame, we know very well that some of the doctors... very mediocre ones there studied for threes there and that’s why similar, but we still understand that even a very mediocre, bad doctor still has better knowledge and competence in his field than just a patient, and that's why we we don’t spread it to the military, i can’t understand why our facebook sincerely believes that every average facebook person is absolutely not equal to our generals, and we are often not happy with them, who... excuse me, yes, stars from the sky is missing, not the napoleons, yes, but i’m sorry, after all, they are

professionals, but our facebook believes that it can, at least on equal terms, evaluate their strategic plans, the implementation of these plans, demand that these generals do this or that or not to do, well, we don't do anything with doctors let's go, in fact , the price of military decisions is the same as the price of doctors' decisions, it's a matter of life, well, sorry for a little digression into such an excursion. because precisely this kurdish operation and pokrovsk, in my opinion, they very simply exacerbated this problem, that people, such as you and i, who have some, let's say, fragmentary information, for some reason consider themselves entitled to judge that , for example, why did we go to kurshchyna, when we have pokrovsk under threat there, blah blah blah blah, you know, that’s what the general staff, which has the information. and on the entire front, and not only on the front, actually about the state of our army, about the state of the enemy's army,

and having this whole picture together, he plans an operation, and i will repeat it once again, it is very good when he plans these operations in silence mode , and not in the mode of national discussion, but of course i can also fall into the same mistake that i just criticized, i can fantasize, emphasize. this word is how i would see the development of the kurdish operation, but i emphasize once again, these are the personal fantasies of one private infantrymen who cannot, who may have absolutely nothing to do with the real plans of our general staff, but if you are interested in my personal fantasies, then in my opinion we need to establish ourselves there for as long as possible, that is, first of all, we need to expand ourselves there as much as possible zone of our presence, but as much as we can do it. uh, it's safe, pay attention, we didn't make any deep breakthroughs

into the territory of the russians, not because we couldn't, there was just such an opportunity there and even now remains, and in order not to fall into theirs, that is, not to fall into the same trap in which we caught them in the spring of the 22nd, that is, not to stretch communications, not to set up flanks, so that it would not happen that oh, we broke through up to the very edge, oops, and the logistics are not set up, we were cut off and... next, we are advancing there, we are there so neatly, it is possible, if you even look at this everyone's favorite deep state map, then you can see that we are there as such, you know, a spot, we carefully spread from the center to the side, and this means that clearly all the territory that we currently control, it is really controlled, there is logistics on it, everything is delivered to everyone, so we need to expand this controlled territory as much as possible, but when we understand that it is no longer possible to expand further, that's it, they are everywhere put up serious enough curtains. they set up defenses there, by the way, let me remind you, in the fourth week of the operation, they still haven't set up

normal defenses there, that's also a lot, very revealing about the state of our enemy, so when they still set up defenses, i i assume that they will succeed sooner or later, oh, oh, oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, i would say that at least, and what is yellow on this map now, it should turn blue, but, i hope, after all, and not only these territories, but, by the way, there are two other regions nearby, bilhorodsk and bryansk, with bilhorodsk it is difficult, in bilhorodsk behind the kharkiv grouping of our enemies, accordingly, there is a high concentration there troops, there are really a lot of them there, and with established logistics, there will be no such thing as kurshchyna, but bryansk, it is simply begs to be asked, but again, these are my personal fantasies, i do not have the necessary level of intelligence to talk about such things. talk seriously, yes, but what i understand for sure is russian society, and in this sense

it is very important that we do not get out of there quickly, not because we need their territories, not because not because it is a great happiness to deal with arranging the lives of their pensioners, which, for example, our army is doing now, well, the rear units are doing it in the courthouse, and we are now feeding their grandfathers there and grandmothers with army rations, well, there’s no way to do that, that’s it... now the people are temporarily under our control, and unlike the orcs, we must comply with all the norms of international law, by the way, the norms of how the occupying army should behave, they are clearly prescribed , we have them absolutely. we are holding back, by the way, excuse me for a second off-top, i will return to the main line, but in general, no one at all appreciated this very moment, we became an occupying army for the first time in history, at least for now only in one area, so on actually, why i say that you should stay as long as possible,

the fact is that the kurdish operation showed the most terrible thing for the kremlin, its weakness, here... you have to understand the difference between our psychology and the orkian one, remember, we once had a dictator who beat children, that's how many he asked after that, he held back for less than three months, we just threw him out to hell, because in our country you can’t beat children, that’s how we are people, in orks on the contrary, in orks their leaders, dictators, kings are forgiven for any crimes, any atrocities, you can cut out pskov and novgorod it's just below zero, that's genocide and you for centuries on... they'll call you terrible, that's how you call it, you can, for example, like stalin, kill millions of people, murder them, and then they'll paint an icon and pray for you, they're really praying now on stalin's icon, i wouldn't have invented such a thing, but what they don't forgive are weaknesses, all the tsars who showed themselves to be weak all

ended badly, at best like khrushchev simply resigning, well, most often... no able not only to finish victoriously a war on someone else's territory, he turns out to be incapable of even simply protecting his own native russian, and even more so it is clear that he is absolutely not going to... protect the population there either, he just doesn't care about him , that's how it works, but for that , in order for it to work properly, it should not look like a simple raid or a raid, that we accidentally caught some slack in them, so we did something like if someone is older, maybe you remember the first chechen raid, that's a raid basayev on budzionosk, that's it for now

russian propaganda is trying to show everything that is happening there as either... just a general border skirmish, or at the very least as such a basayev-style raid, and if we get out soon, they will succeed, that is , russia will breathe a sigh of relief and return to its the usual state in which it is believed that they are right or wrong there, but the strongest, but the longer we stay there, the more it shakes russian society, this understanding that in fact the king is weak, that the king is naked. and for this we are very grateful it is important to set up there, to keep the harrows there, because they will try to throw us out of there, and when they are serious, while they are only trying to set up the defense, and while they are setting it up, you have to advance. when their defense is not being improved, it is necessary to stand up for our defense there and hold this occupied territory of theirs in the same way that they hold our occupied territories, and when

their attempts to knock us back abroad will crash against our defense, deep in the territory of russia. everything, this will show in fact, the absolute capability of the kremlin regime will be shown in exactly the language that russians understand, once again, they don't care about crime, they don't care about weakness, but along the way we got, no, one more thing has already happened and again we need to consolidate it , you know, i constantly monitor two large layers of information, the western media and the ork public. so, before the start of the kurdish operation, the western media was more difficult to read than the orkish public. you could often at least laugh at the orc publics. that's in the western media was already very sad. there was stupid mourning for us. they just buried us. there it was considered an absolutely universal thesis that

it is impossible to defeat russia by military means, and from this follows the logical statement that, well, then we have to negotiate. so it is necessary to freeze the conflict along the current line, so it is necessary, well , in fact, this means our capitulation, the freezing of the conflict on putin's terms, after the kurdish operation, as the fortune teller did, this thesis that russia is not victorious at all, now no one even is trying to raise and voice, this thesis is completely disavowed, zeroed out, now completely different discussions are going on, that it turns out that russia can be defeated, and then why are ukrainians still not given the resources they need in order to take and finally win? and yes, this does not mean that these resources were showered on us right away, but the discussion turned to this very plane, what is needed to win over russia, and who should be pressed so that the ukrainians finally get it, so ... until things, mr. eugene, about who to press and who can give, president zelensky also said, because he was talking specifically about long-range drones and missile capabilities,

long-range missile capabilities, let's listen to what zelensky said, as for the probability, we are working with our partners so that they give permission, usually we have everything a little later than when it is very necessary, unfortunately. and it depends on the united states, britain, france, germany. four states have appropriate, shall we say, instruments that we can use. mr. yevgeny, what is it? restrains our western partners? red lines, and in this sense the kursk operation also gave a brilliant result, but let me remind you that before this operation it was considered, again, as such a generally accepted thing that... no one even discussed the fact that entering the territory of russia is not you can, but you will enter the territory of russia, well, the one that is not, well, the one that they annexed, but the one that is really legally theirs, but

you will go there and that’s it, the world will collapse, the apocalypse will begin, terrible putin will press the big terrible red button, so what, there are already four of us we have been occupying a part of the territory of a nuclear state for weeks, by the way, this is the first time in world history that a foreign army is on the territory of a nuclear state, so what? this skyfl is coming, the sky hasn't collapsed, sorry, no red button, that's where it lay, there it lies, covered with dust, and it actually cured many, that's how this russian classic wrote, even though it was of kyiv origin, that the destruction is not in the closets, in my head, the course operation brilliantly showed that the red lines are not on the map, that the red lines are only in the heads of biden, scholz, other western leaders, and you know, well, i am not ready to say about biden now, there is still an overlap, excuse me, well, he is a very elderly person who sometimes, excuse me, kills at press conferences, like someone called,

on the other hand, he very much remembers his fear of the times of his youth, the times of the cold war, he very much remembers this horror of seeing a nuclear mushroom outside the window, so honestly i don't know if it will work with him, but at least it really happened to a lot of european leaders, absolutely publicly. it is discussed that the red lines it turns out that in fact they made it up for themselves, they scared themselves, in reality they don’t exist, that it was putin’s bluff that they fell for, and that’s why i really hope that the position of the partners will really change, we will be allowed these long-range strikes deep into russia, but you know , even if they don't allow it, well, don't forget that we ourselves are developing so much in this regard that in some time we will stop asking, just right here, by the way, it may well happen that by the time they are mature enough to allow us... us it won't be anymore it is necessary, because the huge progress in the field of long-range drones, i will remind you that among the events of this week, for example, the moscow oil refinery, that is right in the capital,

right in the white stone, and by the way, the blow to the oil refinery, moscow in general, is very revealing, here it is interesting that the majority of ukrainians read about this plant in general on the morning when i flew there, i read it two days earlier, in the orkiv publications, because in two. days before that, the orkese public began to discuss what was happening, because on the moscow oil refinery is being transported by dozens of fire trucks, do you generally understand what this means, they knew in two days that we would hit it, that is, their intelligence is working, well , this is logical, it would be strange if it was not working, they were in two days knew and could not prevent it, all they could do was to prepare, put out the fire, it's just in general, well, this is a sentence for russian air defense, it's simply the best indicator that... the question, actually, is to completely destroy their rear infrastructure, it's just a question of , at what speed we will learn to produce drones thank you, but this very raid, in which

150 or so drones have already participated, shows that we are developing rapidly in this regard. thank you, mr. yevgeny, for the conversation, it was yevhen dyky, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. friends, i remind you that we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us there live. please subscribe to our pages and take part in our survey. today it sounds like this: do you support renaming the penny to chess, well, it means the proposal of the national bank to rename the kopeck as part of the hryvnia to shah, after the historical name of the ukrainian small coin. so, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, write your opinion in the comments under this video, and if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and... vote on 0800 211 381, if you are in favor chess and against a penny, if you are for a penny and against a move, then 0.800 211 382

all. vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. then in oleg sahakyan, political scientist, co-founder of the national platform of stability and cohesion, is in touch with us. mr. oleg, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. we look forward to seeing you as well. so, mr. olezh, the major reformation of the government announced by zelensky will likely happen tomorrow, that is, september 4 should be. the first resignations of ministers and, as david arahamia says, new appointments should be made the next day. before that, yaroslav zheliznyak, people's deputy of ukraine, said that, according to his information, they could be fired the heads of the ministry of justice, denys malyuska, the ministry of foreign affairs, dmytro kuleba, the ministry of ecology, ruslan strelets, and the ministry of integration, iryna vereshchuk, will be present , after which the council will appoint new

leaders to. the verkhovna rada chairman ruslan stefanchuk announced the resignation of oleksandr kamyshin, minister of strategic industry, justice denys malyuska, minister of environment protection and natural resources ruslan strilets, chairman of the state property fund vitaly kovel. this message does not contain dmytro's last name kuleby how will these personnel rotations affect and will they affect. in general, that the country will be governed by, in addition to president zelenskyi and 5-6 managers, some new ministers, how it will affect qualitatively and whether it will affect it in general , given that we have mono-power, mono-responsibility, the power of one political force and one political leader, a good question and very comprehensive, in my opinion,

because... we are dealing with several processes that converged in frequency and space. first, there is a real intrigue not only about the list of ministers who will go to resignation, but also about who will take these positions, and since i will remind you, we still have a whole series of ministries where there are currently no ministers and there are acting, temporary acting ministers, accordingly, we are now talking about plus the total number of ministries in which it should take place now. or new ministers, and so the second intrigue arises, whether we are waiting for the resignation of the cabinet of ministers as a whole, accordingly, the change of the prime minister and the replacement of not individual ministers, within the framework of this process of appointing new ones. quite profitable, what for words, in particular rahami about the day of appointments, is actually hiding now the discussion of the initiative to appoint individual ministers, or to replace the entire cabinet in general,

with these, beyond that it is clear that the visit... of the united states, the vice-prime minister and the head of the president's office, also look symptomatic together with the resignation from ukrenergo and, let's say, this whole package of personnel reshuffles. why did i say that several processes are converging here at once, because first of all we have the issue of personnel changes of individual ministers, and for each of them the chair has long been swayed due to political or managerial or other motivations to...or simply to the strengthening of some political teams and the weakening of others within the government itself, but next to that there is also a moment of transformation, which has overhauled the management model as a whole, which was exhausted by the regime of a short war, which should already be transformed into the mode of a long war in which we do not know when it will end. it is absolutely normal and organic that during the war there should be personnel replacements and

changes. management models because the character war two years ago and the nature of the war and the challenges facing the state now are completely different, then it was possible to put a whole series of issues on hold and say: after the war we will deal with them, but as it became obvious that the war will last long enough, then all these problems that were put on hold, they began to fall like from pandora's box, because they are the reasons for the current low efficiency. state apparatus and, accordingly, the inability to gain the efficiency ratio that would allow us talk about the sure victory of ukraine, because state machines are competing in a long war, why do you think zelenskyi and his team refuse to create a government of national unity or a government that would allow for the distribution of responsibility, firstly, and secondly, to bring in other cadres,

not only those that are in...