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the world that it can be without russia. thank you, mr. yevhen, it was yevhen magda, executive director of the institute of world politics. friends, in 15 minutes we will meet in the second part of the verdict program. wait for our broadcast. more than 50 per'. killed and 200 wounded due to a russian attack on the military communications institute and hospital in poltava. what is known as of now and how to protect military educational institutions in the country? we talk about it on the bbc. lives from london. jafer umerov works in the studio. a terrible day in poltava. the ministry of defense of ukraine described the tragedy in the city with these words in its statement. according to the agency, the russians used two ballistic missiles. villagers say that
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one of the buildings of the institute was partially destroyed, due to which many people were buried under the rubble, the hospital and nearby houses were also damaged. according to the latest data from the prosecutor general's office, 51 people were killed in the strike in poltava, more than 200 people were injured in the area after the rocket strike, and three days of mourning were announced. and that's about the moment of impact eyewitnesses say. a man called. i just got up and went out into the corridor, my tracks rose 20 cm from the first explosion, and then there was a second explosion, i opened the window, dust, i just managed to shake my sister, she was in another room, that a rocket, i heard an unnatural one the sound, which i will honestly say now, the ants have moved away at least a little, the windows on the balcony in the hall were shaking completely, i turned it, well, i didn't turn it.
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pulled out the frame along with the tree. regarding the strike, the spokesman of the ministry of defense dmytro lazudin said, the explosions rang out a few minutes after the alarm was announced, according to him , the educational process was going on at the institute of communication at the time of the attack. there were no queues. he added that the minister of defense initiated an urgent official investigation. ah, this is how the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine commented on the attack on poltava. last night, putin. met on the red carpet in mongolia, instead of being arrested for war crimes as ordered by the international criminal court, this morning russia strikes poltava, international reaction, in the words of another war crime of russia in ukraine, the minister of foreign affairs in the czech republic, jan lipavsky, described this attack, he said that this attack demonstrates the need to provide ukraine with air defense equipment and the necessary weapons. and the ministry of foreign affairs of poland called to hold
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russia accountable. the polish agency expressed its condolences to the ukrainian people and declared that it would continue to support ukraine in its defense against aggression. great britain and germany reacted to the russian attack. the united states too condemned this attack and added that it demonstrated the need to urgently strengthen ukraine's air defense. and we talk more about the situation in poltava with mine. fellow bbc correspondent zhanna bespyatchuk. zhanno, what is known so far about the consequences of the russian attack. ugh. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy was the first to comment on the consequences of the russian attack on the communications institute in poltava. he said that it was a strike by two ballistic missiles. he said that many people were saved. but, unfortunately... many wounded,
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the president gave the figure of more than 180 people and many dead, closer to the evening the state emergency service gave the following figure: 271 people were injured by this strike, and the office of the prosecutor general of ukraine confirmed the death of 51 people. the hospital, which is located next to the educational institution, was also damaged. and about 10 multi-apartment residential buildings, this is already information from the regional administration, and it can also be said that there are still reliable, accurate official data about who exactly took part in training events, how many people are not at the communications institute this morning, it is worth waiting for this information, but in general, what else can be said that... i had to communicate with
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the military, who participated in the evaluation of the work of educational and training centers for the mobilization of contract workers , cadets in ukraine, and they are precisely talking about the fact that... for the general public, it seems that the main issue is the quality and improvement of the quality of training, both general and specialized ukrainian military, in war conditions, but in fact the main challenge - this is exactly what is happening, i.e. the educational process is under constant threat of attacks from russia, and this is, unfortunately, not the first such attack, not the first on educational and training bases at military institutions of ukraine. during the war, it was the large-scale invasion of russia. well , it was precisely because of this attack that opinions were divided in society, there was a statement that such consequences of the attack are negligence, others that from such victims during the war, that such victims during the war cannot be avoided,
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why is that? yes, it is worth mentioning the context, that's it... the large-scale invasion, which took place from the very beginning, included large-scale attacks, strikes on the largest training grounds of ukraine. the yavariv training ground, and then there was an attack on the training ground in the gums, dozens of mobilized, dozens of ukrainian military personnel were killed at that time, and these were institutions and training grounds, respectively, which ones. existed in ukraine, functioned before the invasion, and information about them was clear in russia, of course, after that there was such a need to draw conclusions, to take additional security measures, and in fact, at the military level units, and at the level
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of training bases of the armed forces of ukraine, new ones and those that existed before the great war, these security measures were taken as much as possible. to judge from the comments that exist, from the opinions that can be heard both publicly and not publicly, what the military is talking about, that is , in fact, it was all, and there are such basic rules, which were already followed one way or another, this is the emergence of a large crowd people for a long time in one city, also accordingly select locations as safe as possible, disperse transport from... with the help of which they drive to a certain location, but unfortunately, a tragedy still happened, the last such was in november 2023, when russia struck the formation and award ceremony of the troops of the 128th kurd assault brigade not far from the front line in zaporozhye, this this is a fairly recent
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case, and accordingly, this is what provokes the discussion now, negligence, or not... to get into it during the war, because it is clear that even if you continue to strengthen the ukrainian air defense as much as possible and have a sufficient number interceptor missiles, and ukraine will have, perhaps in the future what it is trying to agree on with its western partners today , the right to long-range strikes, still protect an air defense system capable of intercepting ballistic missiles absolutely any location related to training . the training of the military, this is probably, well, impossible, it seems, and this is what experts say. so, that is why there are different opinions that on the one hand, it is impossible during such a big war to completely avoid everyone threats, but on the other hand, there are definitely
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specific security measures, they are already well known even and not only to the military in ukraine, to everyone who is related to holding any public events. thank you, zhanna, correspondent... bbc, zhanna bespyatchuk was in touch with us. thank you. and now military expert oleksandr musienko joins the broadcast. greetings oleksandr, how can the ukrainian authorities and the military command protect such military educational institutions? first, it must be said that there is a need for additional systems air defense, because we must understand that, unfortunately, russia uses... different types of ballistic missiles, still russian iskanders and north korean kn-23s, and there is also a high probability that it may also receive ballistic missiles from iran . accordingly, we need to defend against ballistics, so we need more systems capable of shooting down
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ballistic missiles. the second, and this is quite an important point, is to continue to implement what we have already started to do with international partners, namely to strengthen protection civilian i want to remind you that since may of this year, when russia launched an offensive in the kharkiv region, the west made and made a willful decision, that is, it gave ukraine the right to strike on kurdish territory. of the belgorod region on the military facilities of the russian troops there. now it is necessary to expand this right and make it possible to strike deep into russian territory in order to destroy, including , iskander launchers with which russia attacks ukraine. the next point is that we need help from our partners from the point of view of providing opportunities to place our training camps, educational institutions, including opportunities to place on training grounds and conduct training
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for our units, for our troops on the territory of our partner countries, nato countries and european union countries. this is very important, because it will be safest for our soldiers, our cadets to train there, and we already have certain implemented projects, you know that during 2023, many of our... military, many of our sergeants went through training precisely at the training grounds of nato countries, and this should also be expanded. of course, what we should understand today is that mobilization continues in ukraine , military institutes and universities continue to study here, as well as mobilized people who are trained in our training camps, and of course, that there is a large number of soldiers, russia is constantly conducting poly'. they constantly try to establish the location of certain units and make an impression on them.
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of course, you can say that displacement certain divisions closer to the west of ukraine, this is a way out. yes, i agree, and a lot of this has been done, a lot of things have been redeployed to different places and dispersed, i won't go into specifics about security. but, let's say this, we saw that russia... reached the novoyavoriv training ground, also almost 30 km from the border with poland, they struck there, so of course, these three measures that i mentioned, air defense hit the depths of russian territory and the expansion of programs for training our military on na training grounds of nato countries, i see that there are three ways out. of course, i would like everyone to be protected and... almost the entire educational process took place somewhere in dungeons, in storage rooms or somewhere else, but today it is also difficult
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to implement in practice to ensure all this, and plus, well, no everything can be done directly somewhere in warehouses, somewhere underground, after all, it is a military matter, it requires training sometimes on training grounds, and in the area close to the combat zone, and so on. well, a lot depends on the defense of ukraine western partners, and president zelenskyi... commenting on the russian attack on poltava, he appealed to ukraine's partners, called for more weapons, but will they listen? i think that yes, we are approaching this, it was not for nothing that i said about the protection of the civilian population and about the wording that our partners used when they gave us the right to strike up to 100 km deep on military facilities in the kursk and belgorod regions, this worked then, it postponed and reduced. number of attacks on kharkiv using s-300 systems, and now i believe that
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we see these strikes on kharkiv, on sumy, on kyiv, now on poltava, which are constantly ongoing and do not stop, this is definitely a reason, besides, ukraine has clearly demonstrated that it has destroyed another red line, because before many people were wary , that such a right for ukraine will force russia, or that the ukrainian presence on russian... territory, that will force russia to use tactical nuclear weapons, but this did not happen, it is clear that putin is afraid to do this, now western weapons are on territories of the kurdish region, there are armed forces, and no one hides it, unlike how putin hid it in 2014 during the illegal annexation of crimea, there smiling and saying that these are some green men, covering his own troops, and so i think that we now let's face it, there is a whole set of measures, if we add to this the possibility of the transfer of ballistic missiles from
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iran, then of course there are many reasons. oleksandr, thank you, oleksandr musienko, were you in touch with us. thank you. that's all we have time to tell today, more stories search on our website, and we will be back on the air tomorrow at 9 o'clock. take care of yourself. there is a war going on, and not only for territories, it is also a war for minds. well, we are engaged in propaganda. russia throws away millions of petrodollars. to turn ukrainians into little russians. ukraine will become russia. countering russian information attacks in the chronicles of information war project with olga ley. tuesday-thursday at 17:15, repeat tuesday-friday at 22:00. every week, the saturday political club helps to understand the processes
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why does the world allow putin to destroy so easily international legal system. zelensky's victory plan. the president's office is preparing a document to convince the americans to increase military support for ukraine. is it possible to defeat russia, relying solely on external forces? tax increases have been slowed down. the verkhovna rada failed the draft law on changes to the tax code for the period of martial law. what can change over time. repeated second reading. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those watching now us on these platforms. please subscribe to our pages, take part in our survey. today we ask you about the following: do you support the renaming of the kopeck to shah, meaning the small
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kopeck, a small coin that is currently in ukraine, to shah, to the historical name of this kopeck. so, yes. yes 0800-211-381 no, 0800-211-382, all calls to these numbers are free on youtube, everything is quite simple, either yes or no, if you have your own opinion, please leave it in the comments below this video, well, let's start this block with reports from poltava, two iskander e. ballistic missiles flew into the city this morning and they hit the institute of communications, the building of the institute of communications and the hospital, private houses, the number of dead as a result of the russian ballistic strike has already increased to 51, according to the data of the state emergency service 271 people were injured. after the russian attack on poltava,
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about 15 more people may be under the rubble, said the head of poltava. philip pronin of the regional military administration. our colleague, journalist iryna, sampan is in poltava. and we are now let's find out what is actually happening in poltava now, and what is the situation there. irina, i congratulate you. please tell us what is currently known about the rocket attack and its consequences on the communications institute in poltava. good evening, sergey. good evening, viewers, yes, i am right now at the scene of the incident, here i am standing in front, literally in front of the entrance to the communications institute, the sorting out of debris is ongoing, a lot of equipment is working, and you can see, of course, that journalists are not allowed on the territory itself, although there are a lot of them here, both ukrainian journalists and
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foreign, you can hear a lot of different languages ​​around, er, that's why they are not allowed on the territory. but you can see through the fence, it is iron, and you can see that the dissection is ongoing, and the rescuers are working, continue to work, probably will work all night, volunteers help them, bring food, take them there to the territory, and so on, also works there is such a tent of psychological assistance here, psychologists of the state emergency service work, they help both the victims and coordinate... journalists in a certain way, there is such a tent, there you can eat, drink coffee, water and so on, and i understood that the city, the city itself, yes, shopping centers. some supermarkets, they bring all these products to this tent, i managed to communicate already, although i have not been here for a long time, because i literally just arrived from kyiv, i managed
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to communicate with students who studied here, are studying, yes, and they were at the moment of the impact, but fortunately they survived, they say that a lot of their fellow students were hurt, died, were injured of various... degrees of severity, they say that they were born in a shirt, because there they only have a concussion, i talked to three such students, they say that it was a normal morning, as usual, nothing special, and after 8 o'clock the pairs started, they were studying something related to radio communication, and then the signal sounded air alarm, which was also nothing special, because well... how do we always react to air alarm signals: oh, air alarm, well, we need to go to the shelter and say to quickly, somehow, and
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quickly go down to the shelter, then no, but they say that even very little has passed of time, and it was already sounded in the official versions, they have now confirmed it to me that very little time really passed for them to hide in a shelter. in all buildings, as they told me, there are these shelters, they are equipped, well, they are ordinary basements, but they are equipped for shelter, they just did not have time to go down, a large number of people, yes, who were in pairs, teachers, they did not have time to go down and everyone ran in a panic, and it is clear that the rocket flew very quickly, as the local residents with whom i it was also possible to communicate with those who live nearby, their houses... were also affected, and these people are in a panic, but i spoke with a woman, her voice is still shaking, she confuses words, she cannot formulate
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the end of a sentence, but that's all one thing, they are on such a lady, in such a panic now, she says that in the morning they were at home, of course, it was morning, and the blast wave damaged them, damaged the windows, and the facade of the house and the roof. hurt, well, of course, they are all in shock now, and the blow was so much by a powerful wave that along this entire street adjacent to the institute, yes, although there is a big concrete fence between them, high, but still, for these, these houses also had their own force of impact, and houses were damaged, and many houses were damaged , and that's why right now i don't have all that much information, a lot of information, but the police are working, many cars are parked along the institute, and
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the emergency department is working there on the territory of the institute itself. thank you, thank you iryna, it was iryna sampan, a journalist who is currently in prison in poltava, at the place where two iskander m ballistic missiles from the russian federation landed this morning. unfortunately, many victims, unfortunately, many wounded, we will. monitor the situation in poltava. friends, i want to introduce the guests of today's program, they are people's deputies of ukraine, oleksandr mereshko, people's deputy of ukraine from the servant of the people, head of the parliamentary committee on foreign policy and interparliamentary cooperation, mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, thank you for joining to our broadcast. good evening, sorry for the darkness, but there is no light. thank you for joining the broadcast. andriy osachuk, people's deputy of ukraine. from the voice, the first deputy of the parliamentary committee on law enforcement, mr. andriy, good evening, good evening, there is no light either, but there is a light, thank you, thank you for
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joining in, rostyslav pavlenko, people's deputy of ukraine, european solidarity, member of the parliamentary committee on matters of education, science and innovation, mr. rostislav, i congratulate you, thank god, i can see the light, thank you, what are you with us today yes good evening just turned on this is such a bonus offer. air, you see, the opposition always even turn on the lights earlier, you see, er, so, so, gentlemen, well, we are asking our tv viewers today, very briefly, and i will ask you whether you support the renaming of the penny to chess, the proposal of the national bank of ukraine, maybe this is not the time for this discussion, now and today is not such a day, but we still decided to ask our viewers how they react to the fact that there will be no pennies, there will be steps, although... how should i in general, to switch to rounded hryvnias and chess and the transition to chess is rather such a ritual of departure
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from russia, let's start. with mr. rostislav, what do you say, well, this is really a historical name, but i have a big question, why it was necessary to talk about it right now, even considering that on september 2 there was the anniversary of the introduction of the hryvnia, but we definitely need to leave, if it is decommunization , yes, decommunization, so move away from this idea to sell, the national bank has such an idea, start a discussion, connect historians and indeed, maybe already there after the war, that there will be some denomination and it will be necessary to introduce these small money again, even smaller hryvnias, then let them be shags, but now danatska looks a little like a distraction, honestly, thank you, mr. oleksandr, well for to be honest, it's a bit of an unusual name for me, but you know, i'm hoping that we 'll have the euro as a currency and eurocents, maybe that will solve the problem, thank you, that's great.
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mr. andrii, out of envy for the optimism of my colleague oleksandr, you know, i remember quite well when there were discussions about monetary reform, sometime in 1994-5, the idea of ​​a step arose then, but it was abandoned, well, i think, including under russian influence, should it be done, well, here i completely agree with zrastyslav, yes, in principle, it is not bad idea, it is probably late, it would be beautiful to do years. 20-25 years ago, now you can hardly buy anything for pennies, so maybe we can just round up to the lowest denomination, the lowest denomination can be 1 hryvnia, but i think that in the long run it can be done and it will certainly be only benefit, today it really looks more like some simple positivist message to the masses and i don't particularly see any super practical benefit from it, well, as volodymyr vetrovych wrote on
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his facebook page. this is a step from moscow, well, let's take it that way, by the way, you mentioned, mr. andriy, how 20 years ago, or 20 years ago, uh, 20, 30, 30 years, my god, time goes by so fast, 30 years ago it was discussed this whole idea is a step, viktor yushchenko, by the way, was then the head of the national bank, and he argued for the idea of ​​introducing a step, but i understand that kuchma did not dare to do it, and because it was really such a... march, there would have been a demarche from the side of ukraine, and it did not happen, well, let's just say it, it just sounded very exotic for kuchma, his party, and yushchenko then even made samples, and now they are highly valued by collectors, there is a very small number, but a trial batch was made, now this one chess is worth some crazy thousands of hryvnias, yes, yes, yes, and we remember that 100 years ago, well more than 100 years ago, the shah was present
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ukrainian people's republic, therefore, in principle, let's return to the previous step and to the historical names of our money, but let's talk about the current and present money and about the money that is collected for the budget, today the verkhovna rada of ukraine in the first reading adopted a bill on increasing the budget by 500 billion hryvnias, but today the verkhovna rada failed in the first reading of the draft law on raising taxes, which , in fact, was about the fact that... during the period of martial law, it was proposed to introduce an increase in the military levy rate among another up to 5% on income, 1% for legal entities, 5% for fop, the first, second and fourth groups, changes in the rules of taxation, import of goods, introduction of new duties for taxpayers, 224 people's deputies voted for it, the chairman
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danylo of the financial committee of the verkhovna rada. mantsev and his first deputy, yaroslav zheliznyak , commented on the failure of the bill on increasing taxes in ukraine. let's listen. this bill provided for the accumulation of uah 30 billion for payments to our military personnel at the expense of an equal increase in the military levy for all citizens of ukraine by 3.5% of all incomes. that citizens of ukraine receive , as well as the termination of those benefits that some, some categories of citizens received, regarding the payment of military duty, today is really a rainy day in our parliament, the verkhovna rada did not show enough consciousness to support such an unpopular, but necessary to win the decision. and indeed
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