of the finance committee of the verkhovna rada, danylo gitmantsev and his first deputy, yaroslav zheleznyak, commented on the failure of the bill on increasing taxes in ukraine. let's listen. this bill provided for the accumulation of uah 30 billion for payments to our military personnel at the expense of an equal increase in the military levy for all citizens of ukraine. by 3.5% of all incomes received by citizens of ukraine, as well as the termination of the benefits that certain categories of citizens received regarding the payment of military duty. today there really is black day in our parliament, the verkhovna rada did not show enough consciousness to support such an unpopular, but necessary. for the victory

of the decision, and indeed today we brought joy to putin, who is probably celebrating the victory in the walls of the parliament, no matter how it sounds. our faction will not vote, as our demand was from the very beginning that we first vote on the reform of the customs, bring order there, where up to 100 billion a year are lost to smuggling, after that we can talk about raising taxes in order. today, the situation is the opposite, first taxes, then customs reform, so we wish the ministry of finance good luck in this difficult process, mr. andriy, the representative of your faction zeliznyak said that first customs reform, and then the vote for taxes, i remember how 5 years ago , they already tried to reform the customs office, and volodymyr zelenskyy asked the customs officers what kind of cars they drive. it seems to me that in 5 years

they started to drive other, maybe better cars, is there any way to fill the budget now besides raising taxes, i.e. in fact, the transfer of taxes to citizens and the payment of these taxes by citizens, are there any other options for filling the budget, because we are talking about, as i understand it, tax changes to increase by 30 billion uah, and 500 are needed. there is, and we are barely talking about it not a year, because the drama is that in the government and in the coalition, there was no economic tax policy, and there is no economic tax policy, they are moving from one extreme to the other, and the fact that it was necessary to find 500 billion uah somewhere, everyone said publicly at the end of winter this year, but they dragged, dragged to the very end at the last moment and couldn't think of anything better than an attempt. yes, it is possible, it

should be in a country that is at war, but we have also been saying for the third year that, my dear, you have huge layers of the shadow economy, where even our partners are already openly telling us that guys, what are you you won't get things in order there, there are hundreds of billions of dollars, of course it's customs. the black hole of the ukrainian economy, of ukrainian statehood, where all the presidents made reforms, including volodymyr zelenskyi, but there, as everything was, as it is, these are tobacco markets, to a lesser extent alcohol, to a lesser extent fuel, this is all there, salaries in envelopes, this is also all there, that is, all these moments that have been talked about for years, and a hundred, especially the last year, they have not been done, and we are outraged by the fact that the customs reform, which...

was more or less allegedly pushed through, now there are several new draft laws, and so far this plenary week they are not put first, which perhaps hints at the fact that they do not want to vote on them at all, and at the same time they put bills on raising taxes, about budget increase, and this is pure bullshit again, because the budget increase bill that got votes today relies on a bill that was not supported, but there is a completely different arithmetic, there are children in the fourth grade. they will understand that it does not work at all , that is, two draft laws were brought into the hall of the verkhovna rada, which are completely unbalanced, we also talked about this in the hall, so there is no way to support this delusion, let the guys work better, it is clear that yours advice and understandable reproaches or objections to the address of the government, but the government of the current government has a monomajority and apparently it... this

monomajority does not exist, as i understand it, mr. oleksandr, if 224 votes were voted for the first, in the first reading it was not enough. does this mean that your faction also has different opinions about the taxation of ukrainians? well, from my point of view, having different opinions, including on tax issues, which always cause violent emotions, is quite normal for democracy, and there is democracy in our faction, that is, really different people, for example, majoritarians, they can have own idea about the economic issue, we all understand that the issue of raising... taxes is a very unpopular issue, very unpopular in the sense that it affects the rating of the deputy, and when this decision is made, we understand that we we are coming out of very difficult conditions, but it seems to me that we need to approach this issue with special

responsibility, and i believe that all factions should have a consolidated, consolidated approach to this issue, because our defense capability also depends on... and in relation to to restore order in various spheres, including customs, this does not prevent the solution of key issues, and regarding, for example, customs, i do not know, perhaps there are some economic calculations in this regard, unfortunately i have not seen them, but we have to get out of the situation in which we found ourselves, it is very difficult, that's why i voted for it. thank you, mr. oleksandr. mr. rostyslav, tell me, please, what should be in this draft law, so that, as mr. oleksandr says, there would be this joint co-responsibility for the fact that the army needs money, the military needs money, the budget needs money, and

if this draft law did not get 224 or 226 votes there, but 360 or 370... votes , it would be such a consolidated decision of the parliament as institutions? look, well, consolidation, it can be around decisions that will bring results, and the result will be just when sufficient funds will go to the military, unfortunately, neither changes to the budget nor changes to taxes are like that, andriy has already briefly mentioned the main disadvantages here, in order not to repeat myself, i will add... that for example, that the taxation of banks' excess profits suddenly fell out of the government bill, not a little, not a little, about 25 billion uah, about the same amount as they want to take from the fops from increasing the military

levy, as hetmantsev says of all ukrainians, well, only he is a little deceitful, that's why that this fee is not paid by those who receive their salary in envelopes, this is all not paid by the shadow that andrii spoke about. and so on, and speaking of the need to take money, well, experts say that about 300 billion can be obtained from the liquidation of gray schemes in very many markets, this can be done quite quickly. indeed, customs reform would allow many of these schemes to be blocked, and mrs. pritzker, who is a special representative of the united states government, actually appealed to the ukrainian government that you should first bring order to the customs, and then raise it. taxes, they say, it may happen that there is no need to raise taxes. the third point is the reduction of unnecessary expenses. we in european solidarity have counted about 40 billion, which can be cut completely painlessly in order to

these funds should instead be directed to the armed forces of ukraine. and such others. if we are already talking about consolidation, then we should not shout slogans from the podium, mr. hetmantsev. and honestly, without rudeness, sit down, calculate it, put together a consolidated project, even make it inter-factional, because it is really a very difficult situation, but let's take from european solidarity, from the voice, from the homeland, from other factions, representatives who know and are able to to do this, we will prepare a package that would apply to customs and taxes, and cutting unnecessary expenses, and look, and 500 billion will be found. and how much is needed will be found, and i will tell you more at the end, we have literally in a week the review of the draft budget for the next year, and again we will have rudeness, again we will be told how unpatriotic everyone is, how everyone loves putin, not ukraine, and they will again accept such a project, which will have to be reviewed again next year,

because you see, they made a mistake of half a trillion hryvnias, so they work professionally, so colleagues, let's move away from slogans, let's sit down from the numbers. and issue the draft for which the whole hall will really vote, well, colleagues, that's how they started, your colleagues started commenting on the resignations, because they had already left. resigned, zelensky fired shurma, rostyslav shurma from the post of deputy head of the president's office, and this is only the beginning, as i understand it, the dispersal is like this before major personnel changes, which should take place tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, because it has been announced that there will be new dismissals, new personnel appointments, very briefly, how these personnel changes will affect the managed. states and management of the state, i.e. whether it is in the conditions

of a monomajority, in conditions where five or six managers run the state, does it matter, mr. andrii, you know, i think that it will have no effect, because probably the biggest drawback of the current moment of ukrainian democracy is the fact that all decisions are made in one office by one person, well, maybe two, ah, and as a result, what we are hearing today is an attempt to somehow, at least somehow... to restore order in the government, because we have some vacancies more than a year, i want to remind you that the minister of information there has been no politics and culture since july 27 of last year, kubarkov was fired under the slogan that someone more efficient should be appointed immediately, and that has already passed, how many colleagues, three months or so, that is, in fact, we are working in absolutely terrible realities, when on the one hand, everyone decisions are made in one cabinet, even decisions that concern corporate governance. enterprises and the dismissal of the head of ukrenergo, it is terrible, it is simply terrible in form, and it destroys

again our relations and the trust of our partners, and at the same time , there are simply no volunteers and new faces who would be ready to work with zelensky under these rules. the fact that there is information today, i think so, it will find its confirmation tomorrow the day after tomorrow, it’s just a shuffling of the president’s people in various positions, some of them there... take off, i understand, the baby is written off completely to the shore, all the others are just a rearrangement beds in the same institution, so i very much doubt that this will have any significant effect, any significant changes on the efficiency of the government and on the effectiveness of the president's team, it simply cannot happen, because these are the same people. thank you, mr. andriy, mr. oleksandr, how do you assess the current personnel reshuffles, they were announced a long time ago by president zelenskyi, and... members of your team talked about it, that is, the speech, we are simply talking

about replacing a number of players, in this personnel, personnel deck servants of the people, and have you considered the possibility of creating a government based on a different principle, or a technocratic government, or a government of national unity, or another option in order to distribute responsibility for the situation in the country yes. also between other political forces that also care about ukraine and think about ukraine? well, the fact is that personnel changes were, are and always will be, that is, this is a completely normal phenomenon. i believe that it is necessary to be guided by very simple principles in the aspect of personnel, the implementation of personnel policy, this is the principle of professionalism, expertise, as well as the principle of efficiency. and such changes, well, i... i hope that they will be for the better, but in this, in this case, i, well, i trust my

colleagues and we'll see, we want to hope that a these personnel reshuffles will only improve the quality of state management. thank you, mr. oleksandr, mr. rostislav, didn't you come out with another initiative to your partners in the parliament in order to create. another government, reformat the government, make it more, shall we say, more transparent and more understandable, including for the participants of ukrainian politics? i am mr. serhiy, i hear such poorly hidden sarcasm in your question, the next word is, unfortunately, it is very fair, because really we we talk about the need to create a professional government of national unity, but such creation would be possible only... exclusively, if the office of the president and the head of this office, together with five or six

managers, stopped interfering in all the activities of both the executive and legislative powers, we saw a poll today about 80% of ukrainians consider the president's office's excessive interference in the affairs of the state to be excessive, that is, it is already becoming obvious, no amount of marathons, telegrams, blunders, and so on can stop this. fact, but this one the fact remains, indeed, here andriy already said absolutely correctly, any such changes, well, they just remind the parents of children, fables about the fact that i... you do not sit there, unfortunately, you will not play anything, therefore, the situation in ukraine, in our opinion, requires the creation of a government of national unity, it must be independent from the banking, and so on, and this, by the way, will be a condition of such independence, to rely on those people's deputies, and from the people's servants, with e -e, european

solidarity, the voice of the motherland, groups and such other, which is called, except for the fragments of opoz. who will be ready to do this, because the work, for example, on the draft law on banning the activities of the russian church showed that, as the current presidium likes to say, there is potential, there is an opportunity to cooperate with a very large part of the servants of the people in order to have 230-240 gles a stable majority without opz fragments that would support a professional government of national unity that would work responsibly with the president. together with all other bodies , would work for ukraine to win, joined the eu and nato. such a plan would be the most effective, but for now, unfortunately, we do not see such, unfortunately, the words of president zelenskyi remain relevant, that these are all fantasies, well, if they are fantasies, then, unfortunately, we will continue to watch managers spinning

rings around themselves with people, the situation in the country, unfortunately, will only lose from this. let's see, mr. rostislav. what will be the personnel appointments and dismissals, although they are already partially written in telegram channels and in the main internet publications, but with a perfect appearance, let's see what the government will look like, the next government of shmygal, and maybe not shmygal, this is also an open question for now, well , from the information i read today, during the day, the question remains open for me whether the prime minister will remain -minister. denis shmyhal, well, in principle, everything can be in this situation. one more story, gentlemen, this is a story from mongolia, with zelensky's trip there, it is a challenge not only for ukraine, but for the whole world, because the war criminal vladimir putin flew to mongolia in order to demonstrate that he

absolutely inspire the international legal system and those rules that exist in the world. in particular, regarding the international existence of the international criminal court, mr. oleksandr, ukraine has already said that mongolia is also jointly responsible for war crimes, well, through the mouth of the spokesperson of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, er, that ukraine is jointly responsible for the russian-ukrainian war, because they don't want to arrest putin. what else can ukraine seek in the current conditions from our western partners, and at the same time, from... the international criminal court in conditions when the signatories, or those countries that ratified the rome statute, simply do not comply with it. well, the fact is that ukraine, i believe it is quite correct, has ratified the rome statute, and soon the rome statute will enter into force for ukraine as a full member. that is, a lot depends

on us. now, being within the framework of this system, we can address this issue and... communicate directly with, for example, mongolia, with other countries, in order to convince them also to comply with the rome statute and execute arrest warrants for in relation to russian war criminals, that is, a lot will depend on ukraine now, for example, we can use such mechanisms as the assembly of member states in order to carry out our own policy and protect our interests. at the same time, we can appeal to our partners to increase, or is it simply a question of such a kind of political and diplomatic pressure on mongolia, so that it is very important not to create a negative precedent for other countries, from this situation we need to make sure that to create

rather a positive precedent to punish the violator and at the same time create... motivation for other countries, states that are parties to the rome statute, to comply with its provisions and implement the warrant for the arrest of putin and other russian war criminals, much depends on our diplomatic skills in this matter . mr. andriy, there is no mongolian embassy in ukraine, that is, we only have a consulate, and the embassy is in warsaw. does this mean that ukraine still has to make diplomatic efforts in order to, with mongolia, to demand from mongolia that mongolia should respond in some way, or already... react that mongolia has not fulfilled its obligations, but then the question arises about the diplomatic relations between mongolia and ukraine in the current situation, as, among other things,

diplomatic relations between belarus and ukraine, because these are two countries that cause, let's say, some emotions, and a logical question arises, if they do not want to have diplomatic relations and normal relations with us, are these diplomatic relations necessary? ukraine from mongolia and ukraine from belarus? oh, sergey, you asked about eight questions, but i will try to answer about the criminal court. you know, there is no need to demand anything from mongolia in the history of putin's visit, it has already happened. probably, it is necessary to demand from our partners and from the criminal court itself. yes, ukraine voted, the ukrainian parliament voted for ratification, but, unfortunately, i am not as optimistic as my colleague mireshka, because... because we voted on a document where it is written that it enters into force only after the changes to the criminal code of criminal procedure come into force, which will bring these codes into line with the rome code, and it has to go through my committee,

and the discussion has not even started there, so it will take, i think, several months, i don't want to say a word many months, and if we had ratified it, we would have been able to act already, because here it is a matter of principle to put pressure on the very structure of the international criminal court, on the participants. of the roman statute, which, by the way, at the end of september or on at the beginning of october, they will have a congress, and there it would be necessary to seek a reaction, at least a restriction of some rights of mongolia to participate in the criminal court, that is, mongolia would have to suffer punishment in order to protect this institution again, because putin is very effectively trying to what he has wanted for decades is not just to impose his position, but to humiliate the west, to wipe it out... showing that everything the west produces is not worth a penny at all, and he tried to do this with the international criminal court already the last few years

one and a half, everyone has probably already forgotten how the brics summit was held in the south african republic, which also ratified the rome statute, and then there were huge consultations between moscow and johannesburg, and yuar then refused, and putin did not go there, and yuar, how is it possible for someone not surprisingly, she showed more principledness. the situation with mongolia, it is complicated, because the country is complicated, it is sandwiched between china and russia, its sovereignty generally appeared in the 20th century thanks to the soviet union and china, that is, there are many of their own characteristics, which of course he used putin, but not in order to have any preferences from mongolia, but in order to humiliate the west, so i think what we need to work on with our partners is the reaction of the international criminal court in order to protect... . his reputation, because otherwise there really are a lot of questions, why is this all necessary. thank you, mr. andriy, mr. rostislav, in short, what should ukraine do in the current situation? well

, look, in short, i am very interested in what arguments ukraine could make apply to mongolia, if even western commentators write that mongolia's position is determined by its dependence on russian energy carriers, so ukraine should now not just triple, i don't know, its efforts in order to increase the sanctions pressure directly on russia, and the so-called secondary sanctions on those , who helps russia. these, it seems to me, would be good levers that would destroy these dependencies and would narrow russia's opportunities for the kind of wide-ranging slaps that it is now handing out to western institutions. and what putin is doing, i.e., well, obviously mongolia is not the last country where he will demonstrate that... in his opinion , the worthlessness of the icc warrant? well, yes, this is what we are talking about, so it is necessary to find, you know, not necessarily, it should be such a direct linear

countermeasure, because i think it has already been listed in detail, but the strengthening of sanctions in those areas that would be painful for russia, this, i think, would reduce their desire to continue aggressive war, and would reduce their desire to humiliate the west and its institution. thank you, mr. rostislav, rostislav pavlenko, oleksandr mereshko and andriy asochuk were guests of our program today, gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program, i would like to remind you that throughout our broadcast we conduct a survey and ask you about whether you support renaming the penny to chess, this is an initiative of the national bank of ukraine, they want to call a small penny that is currently in circulation a shag, so 50 for 50, that is, 50 from... our tv viewers think that it should be renamed, and 50 - no, on youtube it is also 50 for 50%, that is, ukrainians yet

did not decide so. part decided, part undecided, whether it is necessary to rename the penny to chess, but as vyatrovych wrote, this chess, the name of this penny is a step away from moscow, i absolutely agree with him. this is the end of it, friends, we wish everyone good health, take care of yourself and your loved ones, join our social networks, also read our news on the espresso tv website, we work for you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week week, the most operative information about the situation in ukraine, at the front, in the world, as well as economic news, everything is on our espresso tv website, join our pages in social networks, we are always glad for your support and your attention, this was the program verdict of previa serhii rudenko, goodbye. tingling,

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congratulations, russian propagandists continue to get used to a world in which it is difficult to blackmail nuclear weapons, not that it is not possible at all, i will not say that, they continue to hope that maybe biden will somehow save them, and something will stop there , to whom will not give something, and in general will literally give ukraine to putin, if not biden, then at least bram. camp, well, that is, they are looking for, they are looking for options, but somehow they constantly hear that you know that someone has to force ukraine to do something, but for now it must be said that suddenly their nuclear blackmail did not work, well, it is not just you already know, some kind of panic, hysteria, directly, you know, the cry of the soul that how come, how come, we thought that we could kill,

rob and at the same time