[000:00:00;00] the moscow church had a huge influence on the minds of ukrainians, i will generally call it the moscow church, because their patriarchs were commemorated there, first alexy was there, then cyril, and they exerted political influence, they exerted financial influence, they cultivated oligarchs, they cultivated politicians, they campaigned for certain politicians simply in their churches, and for a long time it was all perceived as, well, this is the choice of the people, we have such and such... the ukrainian church there is conditionally the orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, and even a full-scale invasion of thousands of ukrainians killed, priests killed, by the way, the moscow church blessing the weapons with which ukrainians were killed, all this did not immediately lead to a decision to ban this church in ukraine, why couldn’t it all take so long, why couldn’t they just unequivocally

put a full stop, and to that, uh, in your opinion, people who will get rid of this moscow word, they will be tormented by its absence for a long time, as they say, or they, if they want god, they will come to you , to epiphanius, to others priests, and they will listen to the word of god, everything will be fine. well, you see, the spiritual enslavement of ukraine began immediately. when the russian empire began to colonize the territory of ukraine step by step, starting from the 17th century. the history of our church is a vivid example here. step by step, as soon as russia, the russian empire annexed new ukrainian lands, it began to destroy our

church. and so the final destruction of our church in the then russian borders took place in 1839 , and it is obvious that then russia tried to russify this territory with the help of various symbols, even monuments, everything possible was used in order to... reinforce this, you know, this, well, simply murderous ideology, orthodoxy, autocracy, nationalism, and even then, the russian imperial the authorities saw the church as an instrument of enslavement, and i am very sorry to say this, as a person who represents the church, it was such, i would say, a shameless

instrument. mentalization of the church in the name of imperial interests, and then it is obvious that the church has even lost the right to have its own patriarch, it turned into a department of the state machine. metropolitan andrey sheptytskyi called it cazon orthodoxy, here there was obviously a minimum of spirituality and religion, and a maximum of faithfulness of such a cazon. state control over the conscience of millions of people. for example, when this autocracy fell during the february revolution of 17th year. i remember, er, these statistics, when for the first time during the first world war, er, russian soldiers at the front did not have the obligation to go to confession, because

before that. time everyone had to go to confession and from father to receive a certificate of benevolence, ugh, and here for the first time there is no king and there is no longer such a duty. actually, then in the 17th year before easter in the russian army, only a couple of percent of soldiers went to confession. and this caused a huge collapse in the ability of this church to control people's consciences. and then everything went down, that is, with the speed of a snowball, which simply washed away this church, then already in the bolshevik revolution. unfortunately, all those consequences were fully felt by ukrainians. in particular, when stalin revived the instrument of manipulation of the religious feelings of believers in the soviet union,

reviving. russian orthodox, having concluded a cooperation agreement with it, raised it, then it became an instrument of the communist regime, not the tsarist one. well, it was not strange for us, i remember my childhood, seeing orthodox fathers with communist awards, and then the bishops of the russian orthodox church received state awards for closing churches, their own, well, we children of the persecuted underground church looked at it then, well truly with horror, and that's when ukraine became independent... this independence began to demand certain changes. we all remember and know the term decommunization today, right? it began

to happen spontaneously in western ukraine. that fall of lenin took place back in the 90s. here. but unfortunately, central eastern-southern ukraine lived according to other rhythms. and so... when the whole neo-colonial face of the russian government and the face of the moscow patriarchate appeared in ukraine, then the ukrainian people demanded decommunization, even of the moscow orthodoxy on the territory of ukraine. i do not want further input. in the analysis of these processes, because i can be accused of meddling in some orthodox events, but these are more political events, an ordinary citizen of ukraine at a certain moment said to himself, well, enough, you can

fool us, and it is obvious that today the ukrainian state feels its duty, in particular in the conditions of a full-scale invasion , to take care of state security. even when it comes to threats to state security, which, therefore, come from the bosom of the adepts of the moscow orthodox church in ukraine, so i think we should all be honest, honest before our own conscience, before the lord god and before the ukrainian people, how we will really seek god and want to live a spiritual life. then this will be the road to liberation, to freedom, even to the decommunization of the church, even to the new demands that today 's ukrainian believers make of their spiritual

leaders, i can say this not only about the believers of the orthodox churches, but also about the believers of our church, the protestants and others churches, that is, we want... to be a free people, and the church, as an environment of liberation, must fulfill its mission here in new historical circumstances, you know, i remember such two moments that i witnessed 90 there, in my opinion, this it was the first year or so, somewhere around the beginning of independence, alexey came to the second, i think, and then he was the head of the russian church, and he was on the black volga, and people... get rid of the moscow priest, that's one thing, by the way, extinguished the period of independence, there was hetma solo kravchuk, that was one thing, because i then, for example, i went to all these rallies before the verkhovna rada, but the moscow priest was there, and he was riding such a black volga, and people were chasing him in the center of kyiv, and they

could not escape, there was such a cavalcade of these cars, and they you, that is, people chased the moscow pope, it was the beginning of the 90s, and then i remember 2000, god knows what year, when yanukovych was president, when kirill arrived, he was there... and this is such a golden crowd marching through the center of kyiv, specifically the moscow priest. during this time, the moscow church managed to to impose and impose themselves so much that from the time when they chased her, they turned into a church that went from the volodymyr hill, there was cyril in front and all that, and no one could do anything, it was as if they reigned here, but you see , now we are reaching the time when they actually end their history in ukraine, the most important thing here is... i would like your advice, i understand that this may not be your flock now, it may be your flock, for people who have little that they understand, perhaps in politics, in state security, in danger from of this church, well, i say, as if it is ukrainian, but we don't know there with moscow, they are not with

moscow, but how to briefly and simply explain to people why you don't need the moscow word, you see, i think we should, we should. our citizens of ukraine will feel responsible for their church and for what you hear, probably also. and why do you believe? if you feel responsible for your church, then that church can change. i can proudly say about the active laymen of the ukrainian catholic church. and we are happy that we are a church, we change, we grow, we we are looking for new ways, new forms, how to be a church, how to live for god and people in

the latest circumstances, we are happy to have wise active, conscious, responsible lay people, uh, in our church, on whom we can rely, even today the ukrainian greek catholic church is not some kind of cold hierarchical structure, it is a living network community, which today... covers many countries of the world with that network of presence, so we would very much like to share our experience of church life even with our orthodox brothers, don't be afraid, no be afraid, be active, your fathers cannot be your slave owners, don't be slaves to spiritual

officials, know how to be open, free, only then you will be able to change that church, children, which you consider yourself to be. i think that lay people, ordinary orthodox believers, can be a catalyst for change in some churches today. unfortunately, it so happened that... that russia tried to undermine those post-soviet countries with the help of corruption, the same thing happened in ukraine, they believed that political corruption, financing of various kinds pro-russian political organizations and movements, which were engaged in the restoration of various kinds of historical so-called events, it was... soft power, the kind of soft power with which they wanted

to colonize anew, including ukraine, and here we saw that uh, which means that the moscow patriarchate very actively began to feel that it was a component of this entire corrupt system. we see that there has been a merger of corrupt secular power and church power in russia. symphony, it acquired such, well, finally, i would say, hideous forms, the fusion of the throne and the throne, it led to the final loss of the moral authority of the same church, even in russian society, and this was projected as a model of state-church relations for ukraine, it was about the moscow orthodox. as a state church, and we saw how, how

moscow politicians behaved and behave today in relation to this type of church existence, in particular also and in ukraine, and here all those triumphal bosses, you know, about which you, about which you you mention, and it has already begun to fill everyone's mind, eh, i would like us to talk about one such a delicate reality: today a huge number of faithful of the moscow patriarchate feel betrayed by their church. i talk to many of them. they feel that the one who should have been their father has become their enemy. the one who was supposed to take care of them finally betrayed them. this does not mean that those betrayed, er,... wounded people will immediately

look for another denomination, go to one or another of its churches. i now have a feeling that many of those wounded, sick hearts, they will generally leave the church, and ukraine a very powerful wave of secularization, that is, a new type of godlessness and atheism, may await. just as with... happened in tsarist russia after after means the overthrow of the tsarist throne, and with it the power or power of ee... over the people of the russian orthodox church, i would like you to clarify for our viewers, the issue of behavior , well, to a lesser extent, the behavior, statements, and actions of the head of the vatican,

the head of the roman catholic church, and the person who sits on the holy throne, because not all people understand... why there seems to be peace here somehow not such an unequivocal statement regarding the condemnation of the actions of russia, or again of the same moscow church, here is some attempt to unite a ukrainian man and a russian woman or something else, to make such a flash mob, which seemed to give some idea of ​​reconciliation, and people think , so he is for us or for whom, or how to explain it, well, as they say, just explain why, in what composition. today , it is possible that the role played by pope francis, and maybe those things that we do not see, but he also does, and they are very important in the humanitarian sphere and are important, well all the complexity, perhaps today, of the role and mission

of the most holy father of the pope as a universal bishop, this is how to be a preacher of peace. at the time when world war iii begins in particles, these are his words. that is, like today, uh, let's say, to be the one who should serve reconciliation between peoples, when peoples start fighting with each other. this and that complexity, perhaps a certain tension between the local and the universal. it's obvious how we feel. that here in ukraine , many problems of the whole world look different, we understand today that reconciliation between the aggressor and the victim is possible

only when that aggressor stops, when the world community condemns him, when that aggressor is forced to compensate for the wrong done, only then can there be a dialogue, a dialogue that, let's say, someday i hope it culminates in what we call the healing of wounds, and therefore reconciliation, that's why these are all very difficult questions, uh, but let's "let the pope be the pope, and we ukrainians will be ukrainians." i think that everyone will understand everything and us, including when we, really we will win in the battle we are waging, because perhaps this is our so-so mission, to unmask that devil who

attacks us today, to unmask that moscow, which today is no longer the bearer of the high ball.' hurians, but the bearer of the latest genocidal ideology, because unfortunately, today the world er has the same danger, er, in which it was, let's say, before the beginning of the second world war, let's remember that time in europe everyone wanted er- to prevent... er escalation of the world conflict, remember chamberlain, who was so happy with that piece of paper, so they say, they satisfied the aggressor, they gave him a part of some country there, and now he has already satisfied his appetites, at that time the average european

associated the word germany with high culture, philosophy, music, and the nations were in power... then in at the end of the second world war, everyone asked themselves with horror how it became possible that such a civilized, cultured people committed the crimes of auschwitz and committed genocide against an entire people, which we call today the holocaust, so today it is happening in one way. to russia, russia, in particular, after the collapse of the soviet union, invested huge amounts of money in order to spread the illusion of its high culture. today, when someone is looking for an expert on russia, they will always

come across an adept who was raised on the illusion of the greatness of russian culture, and therefore , whenever they hear about russia today, they will first of all turn to the categories of their own illusory thinking without asking yourself what is really happening in russia. in russia today, i would say, there is actually such a neo-colonial genocidal regime, which has nothing to do with the examples of high russian culture, from dostoevsky or other so-called classics of russian culture, because this culture is no longer available today, and this is a certain shock that the west may be experiencing today, all those that are respected by experts. we, and this is our perhaps historical role, is to expose everything,

warn the world, close it to this huge danger, so i hope we will fulfill our role, we will win, and then everyone will understand us, i am convinced that the lord god today, there is always something on the side of who is... a victim of unjust aggression, that the lord god is near, near us, you said that god is near us, but i would like to finish with this question actually, for sure, because many people ask today, where is god and why it is with us, and as jesus was asked whether his parents sinned or he, why is he blind, and now people will ask, so who sinned, articles are written, intelligent people write, explain why we deserve it. in the pews this war and they say, so what, who, who sinned, but i would like you to have your say, here it is important for people

to understand where god is, if i do not see him, do not feel him, all this is happening, and why do we need this, well, we will answer this question until the end, maybe at the end of the story, when the whole process will take place, then we will see everything in its entirety, but now it is the christians. have the key to interpret this reality, why? because we believe in a suffering god, not the god who is somewhere far away, somewhere in the heavens, in his kingdom, no, but the god who became a man. we believe in the son of god, who entered human history, took on a human body and left voluntarily. to the cross that is, today we christians see the suffering christ in the suffering of every

person. i want to share that kind of, maybe my own spiritual experience, you know, when i visit our, uh, wounded guys, or even civilians that have been injured, from the bombings, you know, well, just kind of... really awe of the sufferings of people in ukraine, in whom god is really present, sometimes i caught myself thinking, you know, seeing those wounds, i say to myself, jesus, it is you, i see you in this person, and indeed, today christ is suffering in the body of the sufferer. of the ukrainian people, that is why the pains and sufferings of our savior in

the body of a suffering ukrainian motivate christians to acts of mercy, they call us not just to respect human suffering, but to protect human life, that is, it is some kind of, i would say, truly religious. the motive of all our social service, all that we do to protect and save human life in the name of god, it is not some kind of usual, i would say, philanthropy, but it is truly deakonia, that is, service, service to god, through serving a needy person. and this is not only my personal experience, but the whole of our church, you know, no one has ever

asked, in our communities, in our parishes, which church you go to, what language do you speak, when we saw a person in need, a wounded person , a refugee, a person who needs to be helped, warmed, er, or maybe even advised, how to proceed in life, in life, here, and this is the secret of stability, i am convinced that this is not an abstract , but the very concrete presence of god. between us, in particular through him suffering in the wounds of ukraine, this is a very, very deep, i would say, foundation for the proclamation of christ's gospel in ukraine today. that is why we say: "god is with us." because god is always in the one

who suffers. there is such an early christian sermon from the second. century, even from the persecuted church, which spoke, says that christ is being killed in everyone, who will be killed until the end of the world. christ was present in joseph, whom he sold into egypt. christ was present in abel, who was killed by cain in the old testament. and today he is present in every person who is in need. weak, that is why we read in the gospel from matthew about the terrible judgment, says christ, what you did to one of the least of mine, you did it to me, that is why we, christians, know where god is present, we see him, and we want to serve the lord god and our

long-suffering but heroic people. thank you, bishop sviatoslav was with us, the head of the ukrainian greek catholic church, and i also congratulate you on the independence day of ukraine and your entire christian community. well i ask you to stay with the espresso tv channel. it will be interesting later. see this week in the collaborators program. new faces of treason in the kherson region. whom. the occupiers handed over the mandate of the minister of education, happy russia day, happy day to the powerful country in which we live and work, and which russifies ukrainian educational institutions. kherson region together with russia. greetings, i'm olena kononenko, and this is a collaborator program about traitors who follow the call of their hearts and wallets to serve the roshi occupiers. in today's edition, i will continue to talk about traitors

of our state. collaborators themselves should know quietly. there will be no council, it will not be possible to sit in the chair of the seller's official and not get suspicion. meet raiko galina oleksandrivna, born in 1977, originally from the city of gola prystan, in the kherson region. my dear colleagues and students, i have made my choice. i believe in your consciousness, in your awareness that you and your families will come to the polling station and do your civic duty. in 2000. she graduated from the kherson national technical university university in the specialty "economics of enterprises". in 2019, she received another degree in the same higher education, majoring in computer science. in her peaceful life, halyna headed the department of information technology at the kherson national technical university. she had the title of candidate of technical sciences, was the author of a number of scientific publications. at first glance, a very educated

person, but raiko showed his true nature. during the occupation, which we lay for the future from the point of view of patriotism, from the point of view of upbringing, from the point of view of the foundation of education, a person who loves her land, who sees the vector of her development, her vector of development, more precisely, galina saw degradation together with russia, so when kherson was occupied, she set her sights on the position of rector of the kherson national technical university, where... she worked, we believe that , that in the great country kherson technical university, our students, teachers have a great future. the russians in kherson russified everything, so the university was no exception. after hanging a dirty tricolor rag on his building, they they turned it into a pseudo-russian technical university. and the rector's chair was given to galina