sobev could have escalated, because let's even pay attention to what is being done to arrange today's tragedy in lviv, the russians had only eight long-range missiles, of which there are two air-ballistic ones, six dozuk winged ones, but nevertheless, what, well , that these means of air attack were not all shot down, well, it indicates something, something unpleasant, well, by the way, there is now such information that the usa is close to providing ukraine with long-range cruise missiles, and also that this will be announced in the fall the inclusion of surface-to-air missiles, well , actually, what can be the advantages of these missiles in general, if it really comes to their provision, can they somehow change this situation, about which you say that there is a lack of means? well, if they give us eyes, agm158 wants basic and basic versions. which is 370 km, well, maybe

this will allow us to solve the problem with the carriers of guided aerial bombs, guided aerial bombs, cabs that attack kharkiv and, let's say, other front-line cities, because, well, the flight range of these missiles is 370 km, we can say that this is, well, forgive me, but for some reason the missile in the storm shadow and scalp niche is worse, because there is no penetrating warhead there, it turns out that the american partners decided to a potential buyer... well, show some linden, well, and that too the warhead there is 450 kg, the flight range is 370 km, here, too, unlike other western missiles that we received, these agm158 cannot shave off a special combat biography, but remember there was a story there in the spring of 2018, when the u.s. together with the british and the french attacked chemical production facilities in syria. well

, they used 19 of these missiles there, then they also destroyed, it turns out, the headquarters of one of the leaders in syria, in 2019 , it turns out, there were only two actions there, where they used these gm 158 and fired about 20 missiles, well, you know, to say that these are all weapons that have proven their effectiveness in the conditions of full-scale hostilities is not necessary here, but on the other hand, well, at least this is better than when we have a paradoxical the situation, when even there it is already somewhere in the press, it seems that the heads of state were passing their... heads of state about the fact that, well, not only the appropriate permission is needed, but also weapons to be on the territory of the russian federation, that is , the discourse about defense in general was spinning, it turns out public around the fact that let us hit with what we don't have, so this gm-158, with all its nuances, is at least the first such a truly long-range model of american weapons that will allow us at least some tactical, operational -tactical tasks to be solved on the territory, sorry the russian federation, even if it is not... the fight against the carriers

of these long-range cruise missiles, then at least the elimination of the threat of cabs for kharkiv, but we have to start with this, well, if we look at this issue more broadly, well, here is the strike on poltava before it was quite dangerous and, as it turned out, it was quite close to them to hit there, now it is quite far from lviv, but also, as you say, there were not many means in order to... cause great trouble could still be bigger, if we aimed, for example, at the lviv railway station, it was not far from the places of the actual strikes, and maybe this was the real target of the strike, who knows, and now we saw that the last time vedes-400 missiles hit kiev at all, this is some kind of new yes, i understand the threat, some kind of new edge threats, and again there was also uh... information about iranian ballistic

missiles, if we say that in view of these , in fact, all the growing threats to ourselves, what kind of protection would we have, well, somehow ask for, what would we had to take care of the protection, which would be necessary already in view of these prospects, which are opening up, well, you know, here it is ridiculous to draw an ideal version, but it will differ from the political one that is available to us, because, well, first of all... you know, here if we talk about the list of episodes, even if we take poltava oblast, you can try to find in the public domain, to kill lubny, on august 14, a missile strike, and from the lameness of the official report, you can also understand that, let's say, there was also an episode that clearly didn't reach , but there was trouble, let's call it that, so to speak, that is, i am simply emphasizing that even the degree of threat from russian ballistic missiles is even higher for us than we can reflect in the media, and even if we talk about this ots-400. ah, the same

nuance is that it is an anti-aircraft missile that can be on a ballistic trajectory, but the warhead is, let’s say, designed specifically to cause as many victims as possible among the civilian population, but let ’s first, we raise the question that we need to be protected only after the russians are doing something, we need to protect ourselves, we also need, we need the russians to make something a crime not to do preventively, and that is why somehow a nomenclature arises that we would really need, it is very far from those political realities, with whom we are working, because if i interrupt you, but you know, it seems to me that you have such a rather distinct situation emerging, in general, that now russia is aimed precisely at... strikes with a large number of victims, but i just see that this is traced, that is, they are looking for a hospital, hotel, educational institution, train station, if we continue your line, the one i raised, i recall, it seems, in

the middle of august, a report by the apostrophe publication with reference to the data of the main intelligence office that the trisian people had accumulated 160 kha-101 missiles and 160 cruise missiles for iskander, about 150. ballistic iskanders, it turns out that in some ways there are even more, well, that is , there are more missiles for iskanders than even for strategic bombers, the use of missiles from any ballistic winged iskanders is more dangerous for us, because here missiles, well, it is difficult to prevent a missile attack, it is more difficult to detect a missile, accordingly, well, there is less and less time to react, but it turns out, well, where did we talk about all this, plus the fact that the russians have x101 missiles with cluster warheads, which will be removed later in the complex restoration of work on energy, well, about cluster munitions... well, it became known in the summer, our publication wrote about it, nevertheless, somehow in public communication there from the authorities, from civil society, well, somehow, all the nuances of the missile threat , for some reason they did not rise, and then we also wonder why the world needs putin to do something, to think about something, and

then if we move on to the means that we would need, then in theory first of all , well , you know, not the five patriots that we were promised somewhere, they should have given, well, at least 25, because well, 25 batteries, at least four each. moscow installations have so many, so many in the world have them, except for saudi arabia, but this would at least allow us plus or minus to cover the airspace over large regional centers, well, regardless of what the causes of the disaster were, let's say, the causes of human losses that happened in poltava, there is something to deal with, obviously, the cause of the disaster itself is clear, well, there was nothing to cover the region in terms of anti-ballistic defense, if we talk about long-range, let's say this, here are the possibilities, they must be... asked for, then firstly, why didn't we have such a zealous campaign, give us missiles for the f-16 in the usa, just like we they shook scholz, that scholz should give us taurus, well because it somehow turns out like this, here's who we can get, who we can be, we beat, who can really give opportunities, we don't ask there, after all,

when we are thinking about what to cover the strategic aviation of the russian federation at the airfields there, or there to hit the places where these long-range missiles are based, well here if one of the... not so simple an argument that such tasks can be performed only by a tomahawk, on the other hand, well, first of all , a ground-based missile has already appeared in the usa version of the tomahawk missile they have there in 2026 are going to be placed in germany, and there, accordingly, the scandal with the kremlin broke up. on the other hand, well, now is such a geopolitical era, where you can order temagavoks, in principle you can, but we do not ask for these temagavks, or at least 16 long-range missiles will be given to be on the russians, and going further, we are spinning in such neurosis, when there is an attack. to carry out tasks on the battlefield, and we are spinning in a neurosis that we are not allowed, relatively speaking, to be atakams around moscow or engels airfield, well , that atakams will not get there, and why are we we are having a neurosis on this matter, well, that is , we need to move on to some other

, well, directions of our efforts, so that they are already on the memory of the teska tactics have also changed, remember, you and i were somehow in some... from the ethers there was also at the peak of some strikes, they discussed that it was necessary to somehow direct efforts to the purchase of air defense equipment, well, i remember even in my time, at the level of lviv, there was a half-joking story that let’s attack the patriots, but then it ended, well, the city does not buy patriots maybe, well, the air defense system is just such a thing, but nevertheless, judging by everything, we have to go there, because it turns out that we ourselves are waiting for putin to commit another crime, and then we blame the world for reacting, although in our country i have all the data in my hands, which, excuse me, literally... screams that the missile threat, especially this autumn of this sim , will be more acute than in previous periods, especially since even in all and in civilized and non-civilized countries there is a tendency that the means air attack is always easier to make an anti-aircraft weapon, this is such

a grotesquely vivid illustration, it turns out that the yemeni kushites do not have their own anti-aircraft missiles at all, but it would be more difficult to make than missiles, which can be traded in israel or there. i think that the russians may also have such a paradox that they make more missiles to attack ukraine than missiles to protect their infrastructure. well, that is , an asymmetric answer would be to more... hit them in essence and thus reduce this threat to us well, and if we say even more about protection, after all, this is an option with the fact that poland and those countries that are around us, let's say romania is also there, yes, that they somehow participate in the protection of our space, as far as it is from your point of view, well such a direction is promising, because i see that political ones are working there. efforts, well, it's being talked about, how pragmatic it is, well, let's outline it like this,

the romanians and the poles don't have the means to knock down daggers there, because well, or maybe there won't be, because well, to knock down daggers, you need rockets pak-3, and here the question is relevant, do these two countries have these appropriate missiles to set up a mission so that they can shoot down these two countries border zone, or subsonic cruise missiles or shaheds are possible, but judging by... from everything precisely from a military and political point of view, we do not elaborate here precisely where the accent is political, because well, the poles rightly point out in their periodicals there that they have an internal political problem in the framework of which the peacetime legislation there requires that the pilot must first visually see the target , and then shoot, but it turns out that if you try to catch up with a missile or missile on an f16, you can lose time there, accordingly, they are actually bound by their legislation on many issues, not only on that. which interfere with the shooting down of missiles, which shaheds threaten them and the romanians, the story

is similar, plus, judging by this, we are asking to protect our airspace, but some kind of information system is united that would allow exchanging data back and forth, judging by everything is not there, but it is there somewhere on the borders of three countries there, that is, our romania and poland, these shaheds can get lost, and then polish and romanian snipers come out and try to find where it fell, respectively, and we ask for protection. plus , we basically propose that some part of the armed forces of these countries go, well , not to a wartime regime, but to a period of special deployment, that is, something like this mission, nato missions or something like that, but we we do not offer a clear political format that you will be involved in on the basis of such and such a format combat duty, and we, for example, are ready to pay you some expenses for the work of these anti-aircraft missiles, because maintaining an anti-aircraft missile complex is always expensive, we do not offer it to them, it turns out that we are trying to raise the issue there from a political point of view ,

but it does not give systematicity, we do not give it, that is why the poles come out here, there are 1.1 arguments in favor of nina, because we do not give them arguments in favor, because they carefully monitor what is happening here, try to generalize different practices works of aviation, anti-aircraft defense and they wouldn't refuse even if they were to practice purely, but we don't offer them the conditions within which they essentially have. join the war on our side, even if it will be a war only in the sky and on our small territory, well, let's hope that maybe we don't know something about you and you, and somewhere out there, after all, our military is talking about some formats, well well, but in any case, it's probably worth talking about it, maybe even more frankly, thank you, we're a little out of time, thank you ivan, ivan kyrychevskyi, a defense express military expert, joined us, let's go now. let's take a short break and come back, well , we'll talk a little with the guest, who

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direction so difficult, perhaps, why is there such a difficult defense and such a fierce ... offensive, what did you see there with such a fresh eye? well, i will say, from previous experience, that there are no easy directions, everyone the directions are difficult, they have certain differences, extremely, and the main difference between the pokrovsky direction is that pokrovsky itself is now the direction of the main attack of the russian forces, that's all, that's why there are such fierce battles here now, and that's why the enemy's most concentrated attack is here now . tell me, what would, well, what could contribute to stopping the spread of the russians in this direction after all, what should be strengthened, because many different opinions are now saying somewhere to withdraw, somewhere to gain a foothold, well, such are heard all thoughts others have a different opinion, what opinion do you have on this matter, directly, of course,

society has the right to opinions, but... the undisputed command and leadership is doing everything to the maximum, making maximum efforts in order to restrain the enemy, the conduct of combat is planned here actions that are needed, of course, you need to steadily gain defense and make a maximum impression on the enemy in order to reduce their offensive potential. let's reduce the offensive potential, then under favorable conditions we will consider possible recovery options there positions and improvements. of its tactical position, that is, combat operations are being conducted, and to claim that something is wrong here, i do, i cannot, everything is actually being done in order to restrain the enemy and give him the maximum impression, well, for example, the same yuri butusov, he calculated there recently that, in fact, if you look at

a rather narrow section of the front there, he said 18 km, or something like that, the russians at the same time... are trying to attack, well, there are about 200 people there, and in fact we are talking about that in order to stop about 200 attackers, and he offers some of his own things there, well, if you look at it from this point of view, then what could it be, more use of uavs, i don’t know, well, because now it’s exactly what we’re talking about about the infantry groups, i understood exactly... the question, the fact is that the defense forces of ukraine in all directions, and exclusively, not exclusively, and on pokrovsky use its strikes, as well as artillery, air strikes in... and strikes for with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles, strike drones, all these means are used, are used, simply, as i said earlier, the enemy has concentrated maximum efforts here, as this is the direction

of his main attack, and it is difficult to restrain him here, but somewhere we succeed, somewhere the enemy has an advance, unfortunately, we continue work on it, look for ways, methods of solution, of course more strike drones, more artillery, of course, and artillery is never enough, aviation, if we have superiority in the air, superiority in artillery, then the enemy's infantry will be deterred much easier, much easier, i will say that now directly in our direction the enemy is using the tactics of small infantry groups with the mass method and is being supported. in the areas of concentration, that is, to claim that something is not being done here in order to deter the enemy, i will not say that, maximum

efforts are being made here, and of course, the need for weapons is there, like everyone else, so i will not say, that it is not enough, it is enough in principle, but the more the better, what would you say now about the use of aviation by the enemy, because well, it's always a painful topic, but it's there. some dynamics can still be compared with different areas, and even from this same area in time, directly under pokrovsk, is it active or less active? actively, he uses his air force every day . army aviation is not used, but tactical bomber aircraft are used for deep strikes, cabs are used to destroy fortifications. for the destruction of the infrastructure, the task of losses directly in the depth of our defense, that is why he used,

used and will use aviation, because we must understand that the enemy has a lot of aviation, he does not spare it, he has huge reserves since soviet times, so we must be ready for this, and having, leaving we have to resist it with the means we have, it is understandable that we understand that we unfortunately have less of it. since the potential of aviation in our country was less than theirs before that, will it be a long time before our aviation? well, that's right, because actually we have problems here, what can we say, but if we talk about stopping the enemy after all, then what could be a realistic goal, that is , after all these... advances that were there near novogrodivka, near ocheretyn, and somewhere else , where we could be, well, let's say, those positions that we could realistically, well, because we are talking about

not allowing passage, obviously, to pokrovsk, this is an important logistical node, an important place, well, but to pokrovsk it is where, that is, well, obviously, i understand that it is impossible to say this directly, well, as far as it is possible to give some idea, er, well, by observing. directly the dynamics of the battle line in this direction, now it is difficult to say that it is necessary to leave something somewhere in order to have some advantage somewhere, the leadership, as i said, is conducting at the highest level the planning, the planning of this defense operation, i think the right decision will be made to the further use of troops, specifically, at my level, i cannot now answer where i would like to place the defense, because i do not have the right... level of command, and in general, i believe that the boundaries, which are currently held, they are held true, because we cannot leave something now , well, there is talk about the fact that something

is not equipped, an impression, since we need to inflict the maximum fire impression on the enemy in order to reduce his offensive potential and to retreat to some other lines to move away like that, tactically move away. to make maneuvers, it is necessary for those lines to be saturated with troops, saturated with defense, which is currently being prepared and decisions will be made directly there in the top management, in the top headquarters, ugh, and what about you, well, again you can't say it clearly, but can you say that the lines of defense are so unequipped now, well, as they like to say about it, that it's some kind of trouble, i'll say that the lines of defense are equipped. here there are quite a lot of lines and zubitracons and lines of fortifications, i will not say that they are not here, they are,

we directly understand that we have... a wide front, a very large, very long line of combat, the enemy of the old somewhere he is attacking us in the direction of pokrov, so somewhere he is asking us to restrain our troops, to keep them combat brigades, we would directly like to increase the number of personnel so that it would be easier to receive the enemy, but including the realities, we understand that work is currently being carried out in this regard, and i think that some reserves are being prepared. are preparing, who support us in this direction, well, for sure, this issue is really in the reserves and the question in principle in the quantitative ratio also remains, well, on our, let's say, our fighters to the enemy, this issue remains relevant, you know, i want to prevail, really prevails in number , everyone understands that here in places one to 10, it is so, in fact

so, it is. they see, they know, because, but the quantity is not the quality, i will say that the quality of the enemy in places is not, not the same as, let's say this, they are numerically superior to us, qualitatively we are still better than our soldiers, i think it will continue to be so , by the way, i wanted to discuss with you one video that appeared, it is how the ukrainian military uses such an fpv drone that sprinkles thermite mixture over the positions, maybe... you also saw it, so let them show it i'm not like that i know, some kind of snake like that, well, something like that flies and burns, well, it’s like the burning temperature of this thermite reaches 2500°, it is capable of destroying equipment and ammunition, but how can you assess how promising such a thing can be and maybe you have already met her somewhere or something about

her? encountered and heard, well, it’s quite a thing, this tool is quite promising, it has the right to life, and these are thermopyric munitions, which can be used to destroy the so-called zillonka, which is still very a lot, where the enemy is hiding, eh, and firing it, we saw the detonation of the bepribas, now on the video, you can see that yes, the destruction of it, the so-called sex warehouses and fortified areas, this is not a simple fire, it is a soft one. and directly it is ammunition that is difficult to extinguish, that is, it is a special chemical that is not so easy to extinguish, this is how i understand it, the answer is peculiar, yes, well, i think that this is the know-how in the production of fpv drones, and when it appeared, well, because , well, i literally saw this video today, and for me it was like this, well, i have not heard about it yet, i will say that... recently

they started using it, maybe a couple of weeks ago, well, can we already wait for it in your direction or maybe is it already in your direction and is it able to help? i think we can expect him very soon in all directions where he's going to be needed, and this video directly, so i suspect it's from our direction, and... well, in closing, we're left with literally this, well apart from that , can we expect some more novelties, maybe there such that there would be something to surprise the enemy, of course, of course, we do not stand still, as our enemy develops, so we develop the directions of both drones and the use of fpv drones to increase their range, quality, quantity of fire.

firepower, as well as in weapons, we are trying , as they say, to invent something new, for which the enemy will not be ready yet, thank you, it was major oleksandrny, thank you for joining us, he is an officer of the 15th operational brigade of the national guard of ukraine karadahi, just his brigade joined the defense of pokrovska, well, we wish. good luck and success, well, actually, in this direction, about this brigade and not only this one, well , our time is over, stay with the spresso tv channel, we will see you.