the stream of resignations in the ukrainian government, another attempt to change the amount by changing the places of additions, isn't it time to change approaches to the formation of personnel selection principles? i remind my friends that we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, so join our platforms and subscribe to our pages, like this video to promote it. youtube and facebook trends, and take part in our traditional survey, survey, which we conduct throughout the entire broadcast, today it sounds like this: do you consider it timely to renew the personnel of the ukrainian government? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, if you have a personal opinion, please write it in the comments under this video, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote for numbers, if you consider your... timely personnel update

of the ukrainian government 0800-211381 no 0800 211382 all calls to these numbers are free vote at the end of the program we will match the results of our voting today. so, today we have viktor boberenko, an expert of the bureau of policy analysis, on the air. mr. viktor, i congratulate you. good health to you. thank you for joining the broadcast. and sergey taran, political scientist, mr. sergey, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you. since, gentlemen, we are asking our viewers and tv viewers whether they consider the personnel renewal of the ukrainian government timely. let's take a survey in blitz format, you will answer the same question. let's start with mr. viktor. mr. victor. we have

there are some communication problems, obviously, please restore contact with viktor boberenko so that he hears us and we hear him, the main thing. mr. victor, can you hear us? mr. viktor, can you hear us? unfortunately, there is no connection. mr. serhiy, i would like to speak to you, do you consider it timely to renew the personnel of the ukrainian? government, well, the word renewal sounds nice, but until we understand the motivation of these changes and what is behind these changes in a practical sense, well, for example, what the newly appointed officials will do differently, compared to the previous ones, since then it is very difficult to evaluate something, because it is simple to replace one with another, without explaining why, for what, well, it is very difficult to approach even this from evaluation judgments, so i think that... after all, i hope that under at the time

of the appointment of new officials , at least some programs will be announced, or at least those who will be dismissed, at least a little will be reported about what has been done, and then we will have material that we can cling to and talk about something, but for now little information, just a word update by changing people, this is not yet an update, it's just a change, it's just changing surnames, which are very difficult to evaluate by themselves, without specific cases for those behind these surnames . thank you, mr. sergey. mr. viktor, do you think it is timely to renew the personnel of the ukrainian government? i agree with serhiy that, actually, the office of the president, which manages everything, so what, it doesn’t matter what surnames, if the ministries will be managed by, let’s say, not ministers, but yermak’s deputies, yes, well, de facto, ah... but and at the same time i think that it is not

timely, that is, they had to do it, well it is clear that it is populist, well, the whole government is populist, and they had to do it in late autumn, say, somewhere at the end of november, when something goes wrong, they would say, well, something is wrong, then we will fire these ministers, that's it recruited new ones, and now everything will go like this, now everything will be normal, but then it will be necessary, perhaps... now at the end of november, shmyhal will have to be replaced, just to say, well, how, as all populist governments do, so that zelensky cannot be bad, he is a priori the greatest leader of our time, then we need to change the beds in our brothel, well , yes, thank you, mr. viktor, president zelensky confirmed that the latest personnel changes in the government are previously announced.

restarting the cabinet of ministers, but at the same time he did not give a direct answer regarding the further fate of the minister of foreign affairs dmytro kuleba, who also submitted a resignation letter, although the verkhovna rada... of ukraine has not yet voted, let's hear what zelensky himself has to say. we need new energy today, and these steps are related, only they are related to strengthening ours states in different directions. international politics and diplomacy are no exception. today i cannot predict what this or that minister will be doing, there are answers to that, when they will be offered these or other positions for today , it is too early to talk about it. mr. serhiy, what changes from these rotations in the cabinet of ministers, when the state is run by five or six managers of the office of the president of ukraine? our you understand that it is even difficult to evaluate these changes,

if only because they are very different. each ministry is a separate world, just like each position is a separate world. we cannot evaluate all of them together, because this is... some kind of average temperature in the hospital, but in order to evaluate each minister or each official, for this we need reports, for this we need programs announced by new officials, it seems to me that what is this issue, an attempt, well, if it were to show that something in the government is supposedly changing for the better, well, this government, the new government, it came under the slogan of total replacement of the old, but the new government has already become the old, so we still need someone , but it is necessary... to change, because, well, it is her, if only primary slogans, that's why they start to change their own, and from time to time they organize personnel purges that have no logical motivation, maybe they are very good, maybe they are bad, i don't know, well, there is simply no information, and there is, i think,

the only the motivation behind this is that such personnel purges will be positively perceived by the people, the voters, who will say, well, if we changed some people for others, now we will get better. that is, therefore, this is the only motivation that can be, or is it good? well, i don't know, again, i think it will be fine when we will have very clear explanations from the authorities, what they are doing, why they are doing it, and when they will explain why this cadre is replacing another, what was wrong with the old one, what will be new with the new official, then it will be more clearly, then it will really be better, then there will simply be more... due to the actions of the authorities, but simply replacing one surname with another, well, it can be good for someone, because some will perceive it as an update, but it will only be a replacement of the surname , but the real update will be when the officials, having come to their positions, will be be clearly responsible for their words,

for what they will do, and then at the end of their term it will be possible to check whether they did something there or not, then it will be really better, and then you can really talk about what happened quality upgrade. well, to understand by which marker to compare the work of this or that minister, there is no such marker, that is, there is no program of shmyhal's government, he has been a minister, prime minister of ukraine, of the government for four years, the government did not submit a program, this program was not approved by the verkhovna rada of ukraine, and that's why this statement about... some new energy in the government, which has no program, and it is not clear what goals it wants to achieve and why and in what way, looks very strange, that's what people's deputy yaroslav zheleznyak is actually talking about, who says that the reasons for personnel

changes in the government are completely transparent and mostly political, let's listen to what the railwayman said, yehal ushchenko carries a lot of black cash, of course. he must be left, there is dmytro kuleba, for some reason people love him more than some officials from the president's office, and in he has a certain rating, of course he should be fired, well, otherwise, the office of the president will exist after that, so the logic seems clear enough to me. mr. viktor, judging by these actions that zelenskyi’s team is resorting to, can it be perceived as sewage... people’s dissatisfaction with these or other actions or these or other events in ukraine, that we are now changing some of the ministers, there will be a new energy, everything will be new again, somewhere in the elevator, which was launched in the 19th year, a bunch of new

managers who have graduated from international universities, but now we will find someone here in the office of president sybig, we will find somewhere in yarmak's deputies and... a specialist, we will make them ministers, in november, as you say, we will change the prime minister and in general we will make andriy yermak the prime minister. and it will be called a powerful new energy? yes, i say once again that they did it out of time, that is, yes, there is dissatisfaction, yes, there is no need for zelenskyi’s ratings to fall, they need to be restrained somehow, and therefore it is necessary, if discontent to channel, everything is correct, political technology, a clear course, ancient, we are not of his kind. they are looking for a rifleman, so that he can get the ball on him, so that he can be thrown on him

, but everything was wrong, everything was wrong, and now everything will be like this, and from the point of view of this, that is, the move was unsuccessful, premature, premature, so they made a false start , yes, and on the other hand, i agree with the same railwayman that yes , there is someone useful, he ... satisfies the office of the president, so we do not jerk him, yes, we want to jerk someone, not only that, we we can see that the frond has started in the ear, yes, why did they stop at the kuleba, there were not enough votes for the squeal there at the kule, because they predictably see that there will not be enough votes now, and therefore we need, yes, we need to carry out additional work, that we today showed that... the green government does not even fully

control the parliament and that we still need to understand in this vein that we are faced with a situation when not only we are not explained, well, okay, we were not explained, well, who are we, it's just that there are some experts there, some there are scientists, some, well, even just people, and there is like, well, who is talking? with just people, why explain something to them, how to explain something to society, let society guess for itself, or there is such a thing, or even if there is an explanation, it will be false, yes, they have not explained to us yet, they fired a scumbag for something, we know that the fact that he poked zelensky in the eyes, what should be done, what should not be done, and such a person is not forgiven, the greatest leader of our time, here is some kind of scumbag, he accuses him of something, here, but it was not explained, guess for yourself, but worse just because they don't explain. servants of the people and they have 130-150 servants who vote just like that, because they vote, because well

yes, well yes, damn it, that's how it's supposed to be, there like arahamiya was explained, he was really told the truth, yes, and the rest to explain why, and now these good people, yes, are trying to tell us all, something, what, some kind of new energy is needed, what passions are new there or something more passionate, what did he mean by the president, he generally always speaks in gibberish and riddles , that's it, because if he's talking about passionate people, there's a type, then there are a popular ukrainian proverb, a fool is worse than a fool with initiative, yes, we need new fools, maybe competent people, or just people who will listen. in the office of the president, as you said, there are no markers for the government program, they

will say, well, wait, serhiy, what are you saying there, like, how can we accept some government programs there during the war, ukraine by 2000, some year, we would win, there will be a victory, then we will see, but they will not explain to us why they fired these people, but no one will explain, guess for yourself, or an explanation, today, zelenskyi will come to the faction... of the people and won't explain why they removed these abominations, instead of removing those who carry cash, and why so, well, because we have a suspicion, and that's not all, they are there now the number of up to a dozen ministers there will change or re-appoint or re-appoint, there we have three ministries and they were without ministers, and they will not appoint according to what criteria new ones were chosen. ministers, because it is assumed that these criteria are very clear and understandable, yes, for example, i graduated

from the academy of public administration there, everything is clear there, strategic thinking, the ability to select and arrange personnel, communication skills, er, professionalism, stress resistance, general resistance, including to orders from the president's office, will you bend to them or not, and in the end, decency, but - no, it will applied criterion, yes. do we love the tsar or not, do we obey her ermak or not, do we not obey, well, maybe there are some other criteria, do we carry, do we carry or not do we all carry? there are three criteria that are needed when choosing a minister, yes, no, not all ministries need to be met, yes, there is a fourth, what there maybe, well, no one, no one will remember the marker there, it’s like, if society’s perception, and who cares, no, well , of course, they won’t take the completely tainted, but no one needs such a criterion there, like there

, society’s perception this minister, to whom in the end. hey, society's opinion is interesting, well, maybe somewhere in the background is the opinion of the g7 and that's all. well, by the way, this whole story with the change of ministers is quite so strange, because i still expected to the last that the prime minister of ukraine would be changed, and denys shmyhal will be replaced by another manager, a top manager in zelenskyi's team, and actually denys shmyhal. such a long-term prime minister in the history of ukraine is enough, i think the most, but collectively, the most collectively prime minister was yulia tymoshenko, and well, yanukovych, two or two figures who could compete there, i can't remember now exactly their years, quantitative

years, but for the fifth year denys shmyhal is still the prime minister of... ukraine, mr. serhiy, how is there such a figure, a political figure, denys shmyhal in that sense, in who we are used to seeing as the head of the government, a person who is responsible for the situation in the country, a person who answers all questions, a person who goes out in public, a person who is not afraid of people, a person who is not afraid of journalists and a person who can answer for your words well, you know, it's a kind of comparison, you compare shmygal with tymoshenko or yanukovych, because all those previous prime ministers, any of them, it doesn't matter what they did good or bad, but in any case, all of them premiers, they were the result of a political compromise or political agreements in the parliament, that is why they were political figures, and if they are political figures, then it is accordingly a completely

different story than when now under the monomajority and still in wartime conditions. they appoint a person without any consultation with other political parties, this is another situation, another situation that actually places shmygal with zero responsibility for what he does, because in any case the government, which now has a monopoly everywhere in our country, is responsible e shmyhal, he is not political figure, he is just a manager who does the work, previous premiers, they were somehow forced to adjust their actions with other political forces. otherwise , the situational or long-term coalition that was formed in the parliament simply would not hold together and then we would have to change prime ministers, so these are different stories, but in general , i think that i agree with mr. viktor, probably that the sly is kept on the new year, that is, then it is necessary, when at the end of the year it will be necessary to show renewal, hope, maybe

the prime minister will change then, and again special there will be no explanations, but it will be just such a symbolic sacred one. step that they say, here we are changing personnel, new, even newer energy is coming, and now it will be better, but i also want to emphasize, you know, that these are all political now, such semi-political steps in wartime conditions, they are actually are of little importance, because when the conditions of an open policy come, again in ukraine, whether it will be some kind of strategic pause in the war, or whether we all believe that there will be a victory when the open policy resumes politics, then a lot will depend on the results of the war, and this will have a much greater impact on political schedules, on political ratings, than any current personnel reshuffles, it is the results of military actions that will create a new policy from the point of view of maintaining ratings, political forces, and now

this is all that is happening, it has such a local significance, it shows that the government... is changing, something is ready to change one for another without much explanation, but it does not have such a decisive significance that would lay the foundations so that, for example, we would now predict who will be the next prime minister after the elections, well , theoretically, it is too early to talk about it, everything will be decided after the conditions of democracy, freedom of speech, free competition, then everything will be completely different, and all these personnel changes will actually have very little importance, at all, someone will remember them. thank you, mr. sergey. friends, i am addressing our viewers and tv viewers. let me remind you that we are conducting a survey throughout the broadcast. today we ask you about this, do you think? timely personnel update of the ukrainian government, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have comments that go beyond two unambiguous

answers, please write under this video, if you watch us on tv, take an expensive smartphone or phone and vote for the numbers if you think it is timely to update the personnel of the ukrainian government (0800-211-381, not 0800-211-382), all calls to these numbers. free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. let me remind you that in on our air today viktor boberenko and serhiy taran, and gentlemen, we will talk, i hope, now about putin's missile terror, in the last few weeks we see how putin is trying to increase the degree of hatred of russians towards ukrainians and the degree of russian-ukrainian war. shelling in sumy, in kyiv, in kryvyi rih, in the dnipro, in kharkiv, early this morning

cruise missiles arrived in lviv, and so far our western partners avoid interfering in the situation, the poles say that we would help you rebuild that which is destroyed in lviv, but we will not use our weapons to shoot down these air targets launched by the russian federation, mr. viktor, what can this policy of our western partners lead to? i don't know, to be honest, no, there is not enough evil, because, well , putin has already gone through everything, and it seems that he is specially annoying the west, showing the blows there, the last two blows... in sums, when there on svobody avenue when it flew in, and there in the kursk microdistrict, when it flew into the former kindergarten, but where it was now, well what the lord said, well, we

were called adoptive children, yes, i was creating a salary, i forgot, it flew out of my head, as if it were bad, but it flew, it rained down windows in hundreds of apartments, it flew clearly and specifically there and nearby, and there are no nearby ... there are infrastructural facilities, god forbid the military, it just flew into the micro-districts, into the residential micro-districts, flew to poltava, flew to lviv, and it seems to me that this is already becoming a position that they can show on the domestic market anything to say, well, that, that, that, that, there, there there were a lot of soldiers, everything was there, so we hit on... but how to explain this to the westerners, well, how to explain it to the world, that they are stupidly hitting on civilians, not on any

military objects, and shrug their shoulders , they say, and so it was, and i think that this is on purpose, they are testing the power of the west, there like, well, what do you say about that, anyway , you won’t shoot at ours there either, at this, at this, at it. and that is, i am afraid that this is just a test, a test, well, he thinks that he is also testing us, it is clear that experience, historical experience, including the experience of dresden there, and the experience of hiroshima, shows that this in no way makes the nation lose its temper and does not force it to surrender, but it shows the west that they can kill just people and children, and that, and you won't do anything, i... i'm afraid that this is right now, this is the beginning of a new stage of testing ukraine and ukrainians precisely because we will destroy you, in

apartments, and not only in some objects there. and how, mr. viktor, do the people of sumy react to these shellings, i know, late last night they shelled the poltava university polytechnic, yes, that is, yes, it flew there, and before that... it flew, i mean, it flew to the kursk microdistrict, it flew to the rehabilitation rehabilitation center on the kursk massif yes yes yes children yes there where children are gathered before they are handed over there for adoption or something, yes, it's a small facility and i flew there, well , again, it didn't scare anyone, that is, if the enemy hopes that it will scare people and someone here will shout at zelensky there. smell under any conditions, then no, no, it only causes irritation, yes, we rub our teeth, grind, yes there, but to us no longer of fear, but of hatred. this is clear

, i want people to know this, i think that the events in poltava and lviv will also prove it, not only that, the method of management in rosseyushka is to beat your own people so that strangers are afraid, and last night there was a type of us an urgent alarm, it flew there from kursk, flying in the direction of sumy, but all 10 bombs that flew in the direction of sumy, all the cabs, they dropped on suja, they, they are now... first of all, they wipe suja from the face of the earth, well, well, what can we take from this enemy, who fights with people, not with the army, you see, it is difficult to fight with the army, even in the pokrovsky direction, on suzhansky, but he fights with people, including his own, well, the enemy has such a method, what can you do, but he does not add fear, does not add panic, yes adds caution, yes, someone took the children there, someone else somewhere else, but - it's

just hatred, that's all. thank you, mr. victor. mr. serhiy, yesterday the russian occupiers attacked the poltava institute of communications. and commenting on this tragedy, the president of the united states of america, joe biden, once again expressed unwavering support of ukraine by the united states of america, to quote biden. i condemn this horrific attack in the strongest possible terms. this attack is a tragic reminder of the ongoing and outrageous. putin's attempts to break the will of a free people, but for 2.5 years the people of ukraine have stood firm, and the united states continues to stand with them, including by providing air defense systems and the capabilities necessary to defend their country. not only did biden say in this speech, or in this comment, that the united states of america is ready to provide long-range weapons that will beat on the territory of the russian federation,

because in principle. this concept is absolutely included in the concept of opportunities necessary for the protection of ukraine. why do you think that the united states of america and our western partners are watching now as putin shoots the peaceful, peaceful population of ukraine, civilian cities, and at the same time, well, they say that you are holding on, you are fighting for freedom and for the free world, and... in this way , our western partners act as guarantors of putin's security, not ukraine? well, the strategy is understood in the west, and it can be explained in only one way, it is that both the united states and those countries that are part of the nato bloc, they protect their interests first of all, like any other country in the world, protects their interests first . and from the point of view of the biden administration, these interests consist in helping ukraine so that it...

endures, but at the same time, so that there is no such escalation that could theoretically lead to the fact that a nato country, and therefore the united states will enter into a direct military confrontation with russia. well, that's the strategy them if ukrainians were wise in the 90s, and we then became members of the north atlantic alliance and now we would be under the umbrella of nato, and russia would attack some other country, and we would help this country. probably, the majority of ukrainians would also not like the country to directly participate in hostilities, because first of all, each country is concerned about itself, so there is simply no need to be too idealistic, any country always does this, and the administration biden has always done this and will continue to do so, if after the elections, supporters of the democratic party will remain in the white house and they will pursue the same policy there, so we should not be offended here, we just need to understand it, but of course, well, we also understand

the second point of this one. it's that if the west doesn't react, then the war will come to them, regardless of whether long-range weapons are provided to ukraine or not, because putin will feel impunity, but then again , the nature of democracy is that for now it didn't happen, so here in the west they are waiting, hoping that everything will be like this, somehow it will subside and nothing will happen, and this wave of violence will not reach the western regions, but i, on the other hand , want to remind you that in the west... after all, little by little they provide ukraine with weapons, and very different ones, but they do it so quietly, imperceptibly with in order not to cause putin unnecessary frustration, because i will remind you that a lot of those weapons, american weapons, including those that ukraine now has, they also did not want to provide at first, and also, at first they did not want to provide them with the same rhetoric, so as not to there was an escalation, and then little by little, step by step, missile after missile, this one was delivered

weapons, so i think that even now in terms of long-range missiles and...