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was born in this rather large town before the war and today, every month, this landscape of destroyed high-rise buildings, which, in principle, the whole world already knows, it is terrifying to a certain extent, but what fascinates is the courage and tenacity, of course, of the ukrainian military, who are very you know, firmly stopped the russians in this direction, and at one point it seemed that they might have lost hope of advancing there, but now they have become very active there, but... more to us, press officer of the 24th brigade andriy polukhin will probably say, i am the brigade that is now in including protecting this direction, mr. andriy, are you already with us, yes, congratulations, yes, i am with you, congratulations, have the russians now intensified their efforts in the chasoyariv direction, what is the situation now, please tell me , the situation is difficult now, as she has been in this very place for a long time, russians

they are trying to storm the positions of our guys behind the canal, almost every day they use small infantry groups, sometimes they use mechanized, mechanized attacks are used, that is, with the use of equipment, at the moment the enemy's advance has not been recorded, our guys get a section of the front, the siversky donetsk canal is a good defensive structure , which provides such an opportunity, in the short term, logistics itself. due to the work of drones and reconnaissance and strike forces, it is very complicated, our guys are sometimes reset, not sometimes, mostly they reset their daily the supplies they need, water, food through drones, our guys try not to show themselves on the streets once more, especially during the day, they move taking into account camouflage needs, that is, so that they are not seen, they try not to... visibly disguise themselves and

to move, they also do not go out once more, as i have already said, so that they are not visible, so that the shelling does not start, or the drone does not work on them. mr. andriyu, here you are, being there, you yourself know very well how strong our soldiers are faithfully, selflessly, jokingly stand to prevent the enemy from advancing, because different experts gave different interpretations to the time gap. deadlines, how long it will take the enemy to take the time of the splinters, and from those, you know, forecasts, months have already passed , fortunately, and we cannot help but be happy, and we simply cannot even imagine, for sure, what forces and with what sacrifices we keep this city, i would like to ask you, this whole process, so in defense of the time gap, is this the most difficult period of all those that did we worry as for getting, i would

n't even say that this city is just a city of ruins, just the remains of this city, so that the enemy simply does not have the opportunity to advance to such ... cities as drushkivka, as kostiantynka, as kramatorsk, because we understand that after a time gap the enemy will try to take these cities as well, it is difficult to answer the question whether it is the most difficult, our brigade is not the only one that defends and during the entire time of the defense of active assaults, which began in the fall, last year, many units was in this city, did it fall on our... the most difficult time to say is very difficult to answer this, but all the same, this defense is really not easy, and no defense, which, which, in which our brigade took part or other operations, they were not easy, they were always with one or another loss, they were always with one or another

difficulty, and this is war, and now we have such conditions that we do not choose them, we do not choose this one, this level of complexity, those or other actions. mr. andrei, i also ask, and i hope you have the authority somehow to answer this question, what the russians report is that they allegedly managed to make a breakthrough in the last day in your direction in the area of ​​klishchiivka, and apparently even that the enemy has advanced 2 or 3 km and intends to try to enter the style to... to the temporary ravine in the area of ​​the canal, what is it like here, can this information be denied or confirmed and can it complicate the defense of the city? the area of ​​the tick is the area of ​​responsibility of another unit,

we have not received any information about the complexity of the defense so far for our brigade, if something happened there, you know, about the time... she also said that they had already crossed the channel, but in fact this did not happen, and this information may also be just a throwaway, maybe some small unit managed to advance, maybe he is already there and the enemy was killed, we will have to wait for official reports, again, i can neither deny nor confirm this information, because this is not our area. mr. andrii, i also wanted to ask you whether the enemy is because he... has leaned against the city himself chasivyar, now not is trying to enter from the flanks, in particular we are talking about kalynivka, because there , north of chesovoy yar , the enemy has also become more active, and is this section now

the most difficult, if we compare there, well , we understand, it is difficult everywhere now, but is near kalynyvka, there is no certain more intensive revival of the enemy, and is he... now not only using infantry there, but perhaps trying to take some actions with mechanized units as well? er, kalynivka and klishchiivka are similar in that they are both there and there there are crossings that can be used to transport equipment if they are captured. the enemy has been trying to make his way there for a long time, and he has not yet succeeded in it, that is, the information at the moment is that it is to storm the city of times head on... it is much more difficult for him than to simply enter from the flanks and tell the operational situation after that , on the plot in kalinnivka, i also can’t, since it’s not our plot either, that is, we are located right in the very place, we have our own so small or big, relatively speaking

what to compare, the area we hold has its own, well, there is also a crossing on this area, but it is much more difficult to storm it against the enemy. again, due to some other conditions that he created for himself, including the destruction of the neighborhood, the new one that was there, there is practically no shelter where he could insert safe equipment for himself, or carry out a mechanized safe attack, that's why it is certain that he will try either in the north or in the south to break through, of course, this does not cancel attempted assault in itself. conditionally tactically , it is easier to storm north and south, and by the way, people still stay in the city? yes, unfortunately, civilians stay there, i had, had the opportunity to talk with one of them, a man already of retirement age, he was

renovating his apartment, in a shelled, burned-out building, but as we understand it, there is no light or anything. there really isn't, they asked why he doesn't leave, he answers, something like where he was born, that's where he came in handy, really in russian, well, such people stay there, i'll ask another question, mr. andrii, finally. the 24th the brigade has been in the temporary yar for quite some time, is there a need for some kind of rotation, is it actually there, are the units not exhausted? of course, units are depleted not only by being constantly in the time ravine, but also by the fact that just for a very long time, many of the guys are fighting, uh, our command is smart about this issue and tries to change guys whenever possible. other units, that is, ours, but with fresh forces, and those who have been standing there for a long time should be taken

to some kind of rest, and thus in in principle, defense can be obtained. thank you, mr. andriy, andriy polukhin, the press officer of the 24th brigade from the city of chosiv in donetsk region, was in touch with us. we thank him for finding the opportunity to inform us about the situation in this city. we will move on with andrii, we will now have a short pause, after which we will have... the opportunity to talk with a military expert, we will talk about the situation both near the pokrovsky direction and in the pokrovsky direction itself, of course, and also about this enemy tactics with the shelling, how much longer will they give us nightmares, i mean these intense periods, when almost every night they shoot at us with missiles, and drones, and even release daggers, will we still manage to get some respite at least in the coming months because... really in these last weeks the enemy has started

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start with the shelling anyway, because in recent weeks they have really gone bad, the russians, i mean the shaheds, and... and rockets of various types are flying at lviv and at poltava and at sumy and at kharkiv, in short, probably not on the map of ukraine, a city that they have not yet had nightmares, but the last weeks, well, you know, they are absolutely brutal and very intense, what do you associate this with, has the enemy been stockpiling missiles, drones and now he has something, actually , he has something to shoot at us, is it possible some kind of tactic to terror, to force to negotiate. more precisely, to capitulation, because it is difficult to call it negotiations, what is the enemy's goal, why exactly now did he start to actively attack us in your opinion? in the near future , we are expecting the beginning of the heating season, according to this time, the enemy will seek to destroy our energy infrastructure for to plunge ukraine into a blockade, which is guaranteed to lead to certain social

unrest, because it is obvious that each of us has certain basic needs, and if there are them... the government does not satisfy them, this causes, at the very least, tension in society, of course, that the enemy is counting on this, and the systematic and methodical destruction of critical energy infrastructure facilities, in the opinion of the russian general staff, should contribute to this process in every possible way, because pay attention, recently enemy drones and enemy missiles have been targeting purely and exclusively the facilities of our energy structure and infrastructure, of course, the enemy is trying to destroy our elements of the railway infrastructure, well, it is clear why, in order to slow down as much as possible... the hands of material and technical means that are supplied to us, in particular by our western partners, as well as manufactured by ukrainian manufacturers. of course, the enemy is trying to target important strategic level objects, objects of our military infrastructure. of course, he is trying to destroy some elements of our defense-industrial complex. all this is obvious. that is, the enemy works in order to

to weaken ukraine as much as possible in order to create certain preconditions to realize the key political inter. or putin, he seeks to destroy ukraine as a state, and ukraine as a constituent community of peoples of the world. so, in fact , there is now a struggle for resources, as you and i have repeatedly come to the conclusion. the key factor affecting the course of action on the battlefield is the resource factor. olaf scholz spoke recently in germany at one of the air bases, the chancellor of germany, well, i think that all ukrainians already know, this is olaf scholz, and said that the order had already been issued. for the supply of irist 17 more complexes in addition to the existing ones, so we will have as many as 24 of these air defense systems, and the only thing that will be until the 26th year is that everything will be stretched, well, this is still probably not bad information, these are quite capable systems, some say that they are not inferior to the patriots in some ways, and as for

the nasams, then... this is actually a very modern and effective system of counter-defense, but still, the patrio and samti system is in a slightly different , relatively speaking, weight category, this should be taken into account. well in principle, it concerns the resources that we should get, then i am more concerned with the supply of at least six patriot batteries and their analogues, which were promised to us by the western partners at one time and repeatedly emphasized the fact that they would definitely hand them over. but again there are promises, and there are no additional patriot-type systems, and they are extremely important, especially in light of the fact that the enemy is increasingly using ballistic missiles, in particular the kn23, which pyongyang supplies to moscow, and of course, the larger and branched will be our anti-aircraft defense system on the eve of the beginning of the heating season, the

less losses we will be able to get through this winter, well, even yesterday's attack is that the russians on... actually spared the residential quarters daggers, this is this is a strange thing, but if for sure if lviv had the patriot system, then probably these missiles would have been intercepted, and this is actually very, very important to talk about, because i specially opened google maps, looked at the streets where the flights took place, the area of ​​the st. elzhbeta temple, well there is definitely no military there is no object nearby, but there is a rocket nonetheless. what is there, you know what is there, mr. vladyslav, there is a monument to bandera, and watching how the russian propagandists wrote about this attack in their publications, they all shouted about what in... they were giving around the capital , galicia, and the bander region and the bander state, and even those streets where all those explosions took place, well, just look, konovaltsi,

chuprinka, what else was there, michnovsky, michnovsky, yes, these are literally some such names that, well, some themselves they speak themselves in reality, so speeches, so in reality it is this is terrible, because the enemy is ready to spend... a million dollars, because we know that each dagger-type missile is at least 10 million dollars in order to achieve, well, rather dubious results, but nevertheless, the enemy is ready to incur such losses , if only to achieve some things with their own hands, it is enough , but after we saw a double blow on the museum on the museum of the shukhevich manor, well, in principle, we understand that such things are important for them, that is, they really consider it a goal, at all new mr. vladyslav, we would also like to discuss with you the statement that came from the mouth of the white house adviser on communications in the field of national security of the united states, john

kirby, he said that ukraine will not be able to hit ukraine with missiles from most russian aircraft, since they are located at a distance of more than 300 km, and you know, it sounded like such an excuse why the biden administration is dragging its feet with the decision on the permission to strike deep into russia and to provide ukraine with the appropriate missiles that... would have the ability to fly there, what do you think is holding back our partners from giving this permission, so what to me it seems that the escalation of the situation on the part of russia is inevitable, and it is simply ridiculous to turn a blind eye to this and think that some kind of permission to strike on the territory of russia, they can somehow escalate this war even more, turn it into a third world war, well that's the main if line of behavior of our partners, why... they don't want to do it, what do you think is really behind it and why do we really have a problem convincing our partners to give us permission to do it? it's not really a joke at all, it is

it is incredibly sad that our western partners, including the leader of the democratic world, the united states of america, take such an inconsistent position. in 2009, i was part of the joint ukrainian-polish peacekeeping battalion ukrpobat in the composition. kaifor forces on the territory of kosovo, and among various visits of various authorities, the then vice president of the united states of america, joe biden, flew to us at the bonsteel base, then he impressed with his speech, his figure, his energy of an american leader. 15 years have passed since that time, and from year 14 onwards, it's a total disappointment, with an inconsistent moderate attempt position. to a certain extent to reconcile with the aggressor and with the pure evil that vladimir putin and his entourage currently represent, this is definitely not about leadership qualities, it is about some

kind of reflexive position that definitely does not contribute to the return of peace and tranquility to our planet, and therefore we have that we have, we hope that certain changes will take place in the foreign policy of the united states of america after the elections that should be held in november of this year, because that. that we have and position of the current american administration, even efforts to curb and tame evil, this is my sum, but you are forced to state, mr. vladyslav, well, after all, we may return to kurshchyna, and that is, there is a feeling that, in general, our offensive is there, let's say so , is coming to an end, and now, and now there are already for... our troops have some defensive positions, it is president zelenskyi who announced this, i just remember two theses again, this is the royal institute of

defense research, which on the eve of this offensive said to try until the end of this year some big offensive actions, it would be a big mistake for ukraine, which will cost dearly, and i remember that the very beginning, when we were all still enraptured in a certain euphoria in the first days... , i, our serhiy zurets, warned that the main thing is that we then have to withdraw in time, that this is a very good raid, but we should not try to gain a foothold there. i understand that circumstances, there are always details. what is the current rating? well, well, first of all, we must pay tribute to the professionalism of serhiy zgurets, he is probably one of the the most experienced military analysts in our country. therefore, it is worth listening to his opinion. as for activities of the ukrainian defense forces, there is a very important aspect here, you should not be fascinated, so as not to be disappointed later, what we have today, according to open sources, it is known that 10-12 thousand ukrainian soldiers are currently conducting

operations on the territory of the kor'. oblast, is this enough to get to the conditional arts or moscow, of course not. the operation, which is being implemented on the territory of the kursk region, is a component of the ukrainian strategic defense of the defense forces for the 24th year. and of course, only novorog will be able to form an attack on groups in the territory of the kursk region, which will be equal to the number of 50,000 people, then we will see a maneuverable defense performed by the ukrainian defense forces. but this very process is aimed at exhausting the combat potential of the russians as much as possible. forces and means, because pay attention when the ukrainian army struck the territory of the kursk region, when the borok was most weakened and vulnerable. literally a few days before the start of this operation general budanov, the head of ukrainian military intelligence, noted that the enemy has resources left for one and a half to two months to carry out active offensive actions, and all these resources are de facto already deployed in various areas of the front. and so the ukrainian army struck where the enemy had the least resources in the territory of the kursk region. as it turned out,

this attack was. maximally painful for the enemy and successful for us. now the enemy is already forced even from the secondary, but nevertheless directed to move to the territory of kursk region its forces and means, and during the movement, thanks to the effective work of our pilots, our soldiers and our scouts, it suffers losses. more will follow. of course, most likely, after concentrating a sufficient amount of resources, the enemy will be able to advance to our bridgehead outside the korta region. but during military science notes that the advancing side usually loses three to five times more than the defending side, and that ukrainian forces defense forces are preparing to conduct defensive operations on the territory of kurtsky, this is obvious, which means that under the cover of engineering fortifications we will be able to destroy as many enemy forces and means as possible. mr. vladyslav, we still have two minutes with you, but we would also like to talk about the pokrovsky direction, because

the syrian dialect. that one of the goals of the kurdish operation was to divert the enemy's attention from the pokrovsky direction, but the enemy is not stupid either, he understood this and, on the contrary, strengthened the pokrovsky direction and we see, unfortunately, that there are new and new advances every day, what to expect from the pokrovsky direction, in your opinion, you have one and a half minutes now, and i hope that general budan is not mistaken, which means that by the beginning of october, the enemy will have been cleared of all its resources and... will be forced to take an operational pause, if this is the case, then in fact two, maximum four weeks, this period of time must be held out by our defenders not only in the pokrov direction, but also in some other areas where the enemy has recently significantly intensified its efforts, so it is obvious that the resource factor remains key, and here i think we should pay attention to tomorrow, let's see what the ukrainian army will receive as a result of the next ramstein, because in fact the resources, weapons, ammunition for those weapons, equipment, equipment, machinery, all

this is an extremely important factor that affects the further course of the situation, so far we see that the enemy in the pokrov direction has stopped advancing past this settlement, but has strengthened its flanks in order to to prevent the breakthrough of this part of the front as part of the already counteroffensive actions of the ukrainian army, in any case the situation is very dynamic, and the fact that this situation is under the constant control of the ukrainian chief of mossy is great, it means that we are able to react flexibly and promptly for all the challenges that are happening in this part of the front, and i hope that we have a certain amount of resources to come and stabilize the situation here. thank you thank you very much. vladyslav seleznyo, military expert and colonel of the armed forces of ukraine, the spokesman of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine was in touch with us from 2014 to 2017, we talked with him about the situation in the kursk region in the pokrovsky direction and, in general, about the difficult situation with our partners, about how

they are helping us, now in we will have a moment of silence, as always, at 9 o'clock we remember all those who were taken away by the russian war. we honor the memory of ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia with a moment of silence.