the black sea was attacked by naval drones, ukrainian drones. there were shootings and explosions in the city, nothing is known about the consequences yet, but we have a video of the night attack, let's see how it all went.

glory to the defense forces of ukraine and death to the russian occupiers. friends, i remind you that we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live on these platforms. please take part in our vote. today we are asking you about whether ukraine needs a ministry of returning refugees home? this idea is currently being discussed in the government offices of ukraine, which is why we are asking you if this is necessary. is the patriarchate of ukraine not necessary? everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no. if you have a separate opinion, please leave it in the comments below this video. if you're watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on 0800 211 381 if you think ukraine needs a ministry of repatriation, and if you don't - 0800-211-382. all calls to these numbers are free. so, it happened today. a large rotation in the government

of denys shmyhal. the verkhovna rada appointed nine new ministers, well, accordingly, after sending resignations to some of the ministers, some of the ministries had acting ministers, new ministers were appointed, so who came to shmyhal's government. olga stefanishyna became vice-prime minister for european integration and minister of justice, andriy sebiga became minister of foreign affairs, oleksiy kuleba - prime minister for reconstruction, minister of community development, herman smetanin, minister of strategic industries, vitaliy koval, minister of agrarian policy, mykola tochytskyi, minister of culture and strategic communications, natalya kalmykova, minister of veteran affairs, matviy bidny , minister of youth and sports, and svitlana grynchuk, minister of environmental protection. president zelenskyy confirmed that the latest footage. the changes in the government are the previously announced

reboot of the cabinet of ministers, while he did not give a direct answer about the future fate of the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine dmytro kuleba, who wrote a resignation letter, and the verkhovna rada of ukraine today voted for kuleba's resignation. let's listen to what president zelensky said. we need new energy today, and these steps are related, only they are related to strengthening ours. states in different directions, international politics, diplomacy is not an exception, today i cannot predict what exactly this or that minister will do, there are answers to that when they will be offered certain positions, it is still too early to talk about it today . therefore, there is an updated cabinet of ministers, and there is already our guest, this is pavlo klimkin, politician, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine. in

2014-19, mr. pavle, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, greetings to all, friends, greetings to mr. sergey, well, it is not so easy to drive when some traffic lights are turned off, but i am glad, but i am glad that i arrived, i am glad that you are in our studio today, because today was the inauguration of the next minister of foreign affairs of ukraine and the resignation of his predecessor, so dmytro koleba resigned, wrote the resignation letter, did not publicly comment on why he left, but... andriy sybiga, appointed as the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, was his first deputy in the ministry, previously yarmak's deputy and was the ambassador to turkey, and another pupil of the mfa system, mykola tupytskyi is the head of culture and strategic communications. how do you assess these staff changes, is this a usual and understandable rotation in the diplomatic corps and is it clear why it happened exactly like that, well, you did... highly regarded, well,

the inauguration is after all for presidents, the ministers get their political future and the legitimization of the ways. voting in the verkhovna rada. well, actually, i am glad that such a landing of diplomats, well, in the sense of mykola tochytskyi. although he will have a very difficult mission, i will not talk about culture there, this is a separate reality, although there is, there is something to talk about, i am here protecting, for example, the postal square, you know, with a team like this... well in fact, strategic communications is

a very difficult reality now, because there is still such emotional fatigue, and we need this emotion to support in the world. to support in the western world, you see how europe is sinking, what is happening in germany with the last elections, where there are populists, what is on the left, what is on the right, and these and those are advancing, and i, by the way, am very worried that they can break the normal game of the classic political parties next september, well, that's not the western world anymore, well, as for andrii, well, i know andrii... i don't know how old he is, 25 or 26 years old, he also has a very , very difficult life mission now as will the elites in the states will change, they will partially change in the european union, we are seeing the first very difficult

sanctions challenges for us, because the sanctions ship, it was sailing slowly, it was difficult, but now the torpedoes have gone on it. especially when i see that the international monetary fund is agreeing to its mission to russia, this story does not appeal to me either politically or emotionally, and it is a real torpedo, but the torpedo is not nuclear according to the sanctions ship, i really hope that it is going there now discussion, they will review part of it there, but russia trolls internationals in the fund, she still wants. candidate, who is currently under american sanctions and is a deputy in the central bank, they want to replace her as a russian representative in the international monetary fund, there will be another torpedo, and of course, without the americans, this story will not start, so

we will have very difficult discussions , what with one administration, what with another administration, and of course we are in the process. i wanted to clarify when you spoke about the appointment of tochitsko. the minister of culture and strategic communications emphasized strategic communications, we are talking about the fact that in the current situation, in the current status, tochytskyi will engage in propaganda and counter-propaganda in the good sense of the word on behalf of ukraine. of course, what about strategic communications, they are strategic so that we can explain ourselves to the world, so that we can explain what we are doing for what, so that we can explain. what is our future plan, what is our strategy, and since otherwise, how will the world support us, and this must be explained to both friends and enemies, i do not mean already enemies, namely the subsoil, since it is not

the western world, it is not our friends, let's be honest about that, and it is a very, very difficult story to build this story for ukraine. well, look, we did all these projects, which seem to be focused on some layers, well, there is freedom, there was an attempt to make a persuasion, and everything for now, let's be honest, it just failed completely, well , fakap on fakapa, and there were interesting people who did it, but systematically the story will not come out of it, and i would do that. even during wars, of course, i do not give advice to anyone there, i would still say, people, let's make some kind of competition there, but who will do it better, well, we need to explain ourselves in foreign languages, well, there is there, of course we don’t have french or

bbc resources there, but invite people, ask the british , the french, the spanish, well, give us a few people who know your mentality, give us a couple of announcers, but we have a cool story there, we are content let's prepare, we are creative, well, we are creative, let's make it so that it it was really cool to, to... come in, well, we need to reflect everything that is happening now in social networks, you saw, yesterday in the states they killed 32 pages, 32 sites that were trying to influence the american elections there to influence, but what are 32 sites, they create thousands of them, and now there is artificial intelligence, so i think that mykola will have a super difficult task, but i really, really wish him... that he, he has everything and it turned out, well, we

talked so much with you about the ministry of foreign affairs, and that's the task understood, but this is really a very difficult stage, a difficult stage for foreign policy, in order for us, well, we have to continue to raise rates, and the exchange rate operation is a cool story, it is really something that can be grasped in the sense of the initiative, what can be changed in the sense of... politics, psychology, but all these advantages, which are now tactical, we still need to play them out and turn them into strategic ones, and we can do this only with our partners, well, that is, history, which will be now, it will move very quickly, well, but i hope not actually i hope we have to finish here, we have no other way out, we will talk about the kursk operation a little later, about another initiative of zelenskyi, i would like to talk to you about the creation. the ministry of the return of ukrainians, that is, it was announced that there will be such a ministry, this is also

the foreign policy of ukraine, both external and internal, can the ministry of the return of ukrainians be effective as an institution for people to return to ukraine? i'm a big fan, and i've talked about it a lot publicly, in order to create an institution state, which would deal with problems of global ukrainianism, unfortunately, well, you can count that there are 8.5 million, 7.5 million abroad, but in reality now there are approximately ukrainians abroad, well, including those who started leaving there at the end of the 19th century, about that many, how many in ukraine, well, there may be a difference of a million to two, in the future there will be more ukrainians abroad, well, that is , we will be similar in some ways, there are irishmen, men, i am not saying there from the direct point of view, but from the point of view of what those

who live outside the historical homeland, there are more of them, and they learned to defend their rights superbly, well, in the states, well , biden also has irish roots, and the irish, without the irish, nothing happens there, and families like the kennedys, maybe without them american history at all. i can't imagine, and i've always been a big fan of such a thing, but in my opinion, zelenskyy once called it the ministry of unity, i would call it the ministry of unity, it's a very cool story, or something else, to unite all ukrainians, because someone is going , loses some connections, someone loses emotion in relation, someone does not know what to do, and if we start saying that this is the ministry. only for the return of ukrainians, well, then this is part of the policy for the whole country, for the whole

government, and what about everyone else, and the ministry of economy - and the ministry of finance - what is this ministry, and the ministry of social affairs will say in general, but this is not my weirdos, i am not i am engaged in, as far as i am concerned, the issue of the return of ukrainians is a matter of the state and the government, i cannot even say who in general, not even the ministry of sports, but today they changed, and it is also indirectly related to that, so this is the same task for everyone, but the ministry, which took care of ukrainians abroad and ties with the historical homeland, so that we would not have a division, it always offends me when those from the diaspora say, and here they are here in ukraine, and the father crappy story, that's what it should be about, that's an idea with unity, it's cool. and the idea of ​​returning ukrainians, it works only when a significant number understand the meaning

of security, the meaning of advancement, in fact, well, there were polls, the prospects of the country, and there are very different psychological people, there are people who they are not afraid, but when there was this crazy shelling on the 26th, i go out, i just had a meeting scheduled, eh, and well, anxiety, what anxiety, well , that meeting, and here is the grandmother who works there. twice, then there she takes care of the flowers and so on, and stands, waters, i say, well, well, well, well, that's it, but anxiety, she says, anatolyovych, and then there will be no electricity, how will i water? it's hot, and with such grandmothers, in principle, it is necessary that such grandmothers are ukrainian, they feel like ukrainian grandmothers everywhere, well, at least for a little bit, and ukrainians, ukrainian students, they would like to do something for ukraine, well, in other words, there are always 5, 10, 15 fantastically active people in every community, and

there are those who, i’m sorry, don’t care, and this story bothers me, so i would necessarily created, and it should be headed by someone charismatic, who is respected by all ukrainians, you can usually shuffle the deck here , someone there, someone there, and this is a clear story, we have a personalist model, it rests on the charisma and leadership of zelenskyi, and of course he looks at who and how, but here this ministry is just like that put someone like that. well, that is , zelenskyi’s team is not enough to select a leader, or to get someone who was so great, who was respected by all ukrainians, who had charisma, who could also show leadership, since such a person will come somewhere abroad and will say: well, there it is, what do you need, what do you

do for a living, what would you be offered to become a minister? no, it should be... listen, it's like talking about a military government or a government of national unity. today's reality, she understood, is built around it a certain closed circle of people who change their positions and positions there, if at some point the logic is revealed that it will be absolutely, absolutely about something else, where it will be presented. different opinion, where different strategies will be presented, where there will be independent people who defend their convictions and actually visions, then it will be a completely different story, but now it should be someone who simply respects ukrainians, and i believe that this is very it will not be easy to find such a person, it must be someone who is very, very

well known to the absolute majority in... and here, and here and abroad, well, i think that if they want, they will find, well, i can also mention petro poroshenko, in principle, they definitely know him, they know him in the diaspora, and i think that if zelensky proposed petro poroshenko, it would be a good step from zelenskyi's side, and i would, and i would take someone super charismatic, some woman, who should it be someone who many... well, we, we, honestly, it's psychology, there are a lot of women who went abroad, it must be some kind, i say this without sexism for everyone, let those who like us, yes women, do not be offended, but this there should be such a warm female energy, that is, with those who speak who, if one of

the tasks is to bring back ukrainians, it should be charisma, but at the same time warm, i think so, well, but... well, we will see who will be proposed to these positions, well, in the end, there is no decision regarding this ministry, yes , there is no ministry, no ministry, well, it happens that there is no ministry, there is already a minister, you know, this has happened more than once in the history of ukraine, i agree with you, so another topic that will be relevant, obviously the following in a few weeks, zelensky is flying to the un general assembly, there will be a meeting with joseph. biden, zelensky said that he will present a victory plan to biden, but not only to biden, but also to trump and harris, and obviously this victory plan is justified by some experts, some specialists, do you know what kind of victory plan it is, and it is possible you worked in the expert group, and is it possible to formulate a plan

for victory without an expert environment, without society, without ukrainians, from those who actually achieve this victory, i will say right away that i am not worked on it, but many international platforms are considering different options, and there i am present, what will this plan be in order to convince the americans, the americans, on the one hand, well, look at what trump is saying, there we are already there, in my opinion ... it's been said 150 times what the politics of khairis will be, i think she will be careful enough, i just know people around her who are engaged. issues of foreign policy and actually national security, we perfectly understand that in order to move forward and win, it is necessary to raise

stakes, are the americans ready to raise stakes as of today, you see how the super-heavy story is going with strikes on russian military facilities, with the provision of weapons, how the whole machine works, how much it really is. is very, very complicated, so this story is super important, and of course, there is already news that zelensky said in an interview with nbc news that ukraine will prepare a detailed plan for the end of the war before the second peace summit, they previously said about the fact that this peace summit may be in qatar, well, it is not completely clear, and whether it will be november or not november, but in september, as zelensky says, there will be an organization... for a series of meetings with allies and international partners, let's hear what zelensky said. we are preparing important meetings with partners, something that can and should

strengthen our positions, not only of ukraine, but also of all of us in europe, all of us in the world, who seek a real end to this war and real joint work so that security is never destroyed again . this week, next, the whole. september should be productive for all of us. and above all this concerns air defense, our capabilities at the front and in recovery. we prepare meaningful things. the president has repeatedly said that for a long time, that we are preparing meaningful meetings, we are ready to prepare new proposals, we are demanding more air defense, you see how the russians are shelling the civilian population. is... is the dynamics of the perception of this information on the part of our western partners sufficient and why, if it is not sufficient, what is their reason? let's start with the plan. in fact, the plan, or its

basic images can be discussed, there are groups, in which there are representatives of both the west and non -west, on all points of the formula, you can in... determine there at least the basic sequence of steps, even if you wish to set a time frame for some of them, then it will all be put together and a plan, the question in therefore, will this plan be enough to gather everyone for the second summit, especially the non-western countries, will they have the will to support it, you... saw that in switzerland there was even a difficult job of supporting the three points, right away, everything needs to be brought together, including

the withdrawal of russian troops, and reparations, everything that's all, that's all, there won't be some kind of super-ecstasy on the part of a significant, significant number of countries, not the west, of course, and we know perfectly well, now a problem arises... and what kind of incentive and what profit or what kind of coercion is there for russia to to appear, since a significant number of countries, again not western ones, want to appear at the second summit only in the presence of russia, so i listed only the super basic issues, and i can list this list to the end of our broadcast, but of course i won't, i i just want to say that there are many more open questions... than the ones we have the answer, of course, is the plan that the president is talking about, which he will present to the americans in a couple of weeks,

which is largely correlated with another plan, and they are all looking and understanding whether we, together with our partners, are ready to raise the stakes, you say, do they take everything, they... they are guided by their own logic, they are guided by their own logic, which i call the logic of controlled war, which i think is at least unfair to us, because they invest heavily in containment of russia through us, because we are waging our war, and somewhere in the kremlin they believe that they are waging a war there with the americans from the west. that is, they have their own schizophrenia there, well, but the very fact that should be clear for the americans, in order to get victory, as we see it, it is necessary

to raise. have stakes, and they keep them, well, at the level of constant pressure, but, but no more than that, you and i already talked about the first torpedoes in the sanctions regime, which, which again worries me, i spoke with the americans there, in principle , like this, like this perhaps, and how it fits into the general logic of pressure on russia, that is, we are entering a very, very difficult period and without the fact that... that we are converting all the advantages from kursk that we talked about into strategic advantages, because now we have a lot of advantages and they are important, but they are tactical, they are there for us today, they are there tomorrow, but they are not there in the perspective of a process that will force russia to comply, or at least to talk honestly, and now you see ... what

they do, they actually try to keep increasing this pressure on people, the pressure psychological, today there is anxiety, how many hours did it last, then such queues in the subway, well, it is very difficult to get there, here you go, there is electricity, here it is not, you do not know what will happen tomorrow, that is, all this creates a situation of uncertainty, so what i really... like it about ukrainians, well, almost no one has a sense of fear after these crazy animal attacks, but on the other hand, this understanding, or the perception of uncertainty, it, it increases, and today i do not see the american desire to radically , radically raise the stakes, that's what we need in today's reality, i think it

's important for the americans to put ... putin in his place, and they've already done that to a large extent with their logic, but their logic, and they keep saying it, the logic of victory is the existence of ukraine as a nation, as an independent democratic state, but for you and me, as for ukrainians, this is not enough, since we are talking about people, about territories, about the fact that our security will be ensured, and we still have to hear from our partners, what next , they perfectly understand that even if they will push us to some kind of temporary or non-temporary freeze, this does not provide security, security should be the same for us as for them, because if we become part of them part of the west through the eu, i hope in the future nato, then there can't be one security for us, another for poland, another for italy, well, it doesn't work like that,

and they... gradually move towards this logic, but they go because of their vision of sequence, sequence of steps, and here it is very it is important that they understand at some point that the stakes you can raise, so far they are, in my opinion, not just very, but too careful with this. putin spoke today at the far eastern economic forum, for some reason he has been so far from moscow recently, then... he flew to azerbaijan, then to chechnya, then to mongolia, now to the far east, well, away from moscow, from those regions where ukrainians fly drones, and he is doing the right thing, by the way, in the far east, he will someday fly to the far east, yes, yes, well, when there will be a ballistic missile that will fly, or from the other side, no one knows, well, yes, or from the other side, true, there is a green wedge, by the way, many ukrainians live in the far east, maybe...

putin says that we are not against talking to ukrainians about peace talks, and we can hold these peace talks, but we want we went back to the istanbul agreements of 22, and he keeps saying: let's go back, on the basis of the istanbul agreements, we are ready to talk, what is the status of these istanbul agreements, that... putin constantly appeals to them, that is, it was a draft of which agreements , what he shook there in front of foreign journalists, i.e. is it even a subject for saying that we will talk with ukraine only on the basis of this, because david rahamiy or someone there put a cross on it is not important, it is absolutely, it is something something that is in a parallel reality, these arrangements...