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but putin again spoke about some negotiations, well, again, those negotiations that he sees in his head, based on the istanbul agreements, putin stated, once again, he repeats this as a mantra, more than once on various discussion panels, meetings and so on and the like. he also stated that it is necessary to remove the bandits from kurshchyna, and only then, conditionally speaking, it will be possible to... talk with ukraine, and in general, putin did make his visit to mongolia, which we talked about exactly seven days ago, despite that mongolia should again, should have arrested putin, she did not do it, that is, in fact , putin, while laughing at international law , once again spat at any international treaties, at the international ... criminal court,
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well, it was quite understandable, and we talked about it with mr. vitaly, and i repeat it again, exactly seven days ago in this studio, so if we talk together about this track of changes that putin said and his arrival in mongolia, why is putin talking about negotiations again, although it seemed b, how long are there two weeks, three weeks ago, four weeks ago, putin, peskov, there are others, the so-called speakers. in russia they talked about the fact that there will be no negotiations, that is, do you not consider this another, another dust in the eyes, as they say, on international platforms, again, well, in general, here is his trip to mongolia, as you rate her? well, if we talk about negotiations, then again i remind you that putin, one way or another, is not only a politician, he is also a gambler, a task. habista confuses the public,
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today you say one thing, tomorrow you say another, we all get lost in what he wants in fact, he wants to destabilize the situation, i am telling you this for sure, that is, first he is talking in order to start negotiations, ukraine should withdraw its troops from the donetsk, luhansk, kherson, zaporizhzhia regions, demilitarize, de-nazify, now we are talking about the istanbul agreements, but i... think that in fact it is still simpler, when he talked about all these donetsk, luhansk, kherson and zaporizhzhia regions, he said this in russia at internal meetings, uh, at some meeting of the security council, the nation for the sake of security, after the kurt region, he generally said that there is no need for any talks with ukraine now, it was all calculated for the internal audience, but we are angry, we will never talk to them at all.
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who occupied the holy russian land, of course, now this is the east, the eastern economic forum, that is, putin’s speechwriters are given the task, this is just the plan, it is being written, to write out theses of a possible peace process by ukraine, so that the countries of the global south will like it, there is no longer a question of istanbul as an essence, it is about that he would be happy to see in some way... the mediators of the country of the global south, not the west, and i apologize, i think he said this at one, at one of the regular meetings within the framework of brics, he also spoke, actually, and now he spoke at this session of the east, that is, when he sees them in front of his eyes, as you understand, he wants to say something that they took as a sign of respect, he does it, uh, why doesn't he do it, it's worthless, that's china and brazil nominated. peace
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plan, it is fundamentally against his interests, because he would not want it to end of fire on the contact line, in principle he does not really want a ceasefire and definitely on the contact line, but why not tell him that he supports it, that he wants them to be mediators, they will be happy, they are important to him, they help him prevent sanctions, china helps him survive at all, what's the problem, well he said, tomorrow there will be a new measure, the press office will write new theses, it's kind of like theses to... the idea, if you like, it's that he glues himself a city fool, and today they wrote him a post about the fact that the united the states will soon disintegrate, and what is there to do with them, they will disintegrate, this is the answer to the statement that russia will disintegrate, made by certain experts and politicians there, well, you believe that russia will disintegrate, and we believe that it will disintegrate? you and i are already
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flowers, that's all, and that is, i would not pay attention to these words, i proceed from the axiom that the russian-ukrainian negotiations are about to end. war is, in principle, impossible, which can be forgotten for the simple reason that the task of the russian federation is a logical task from the point of view of restoring the imperial the effort is to tame ukraine and occupy our country and create at least a sphere of influence from uzhgorod to ashgabat, maybe not a common state, it is always a question whether they have enough strength to create a state, because they may now think that this is a mistake to do . common state, as they once annexed galicia to ukraine, as a result, yes, why experiment again, you can make a vassal state, but this entire zone must be russian, yes, and of course with the russian army, which will be able to enter there and leave, as in kazakhstan,
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she went in, came out, that’s how, this model means that peace talks are impossible here, negotiations on a cease-fire are possible, as i already said, at the moment of exhaustion of the demographic... economic, military and political resources of the warring countries, and this is a question that ukraine should fall a day later than russia, that's it, nothing else will happen, there are no other formulas, you can hold dozens of peace forums there, meet, go on visits to western politicians or putin to eastern politicians, it will not help anything, the conflict is ectatic, existential, such conflicts do not end, if they begin, then it is necessary, i would simply say. it is to realize and live in a state of this conflict without inventing unnecessary illusions, and without trying to understand why he said all this, again, the ceasefire can be at least tomorrow, if he understands that it is not profitable for him to climb further, here we will stop them, let's say somewhere,
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they will break into our defenses like a rock, if such a rock, if it is possible, and let's say, their attacks will not lead to ... ukrainians freezing in winter, well good, so we need to gather forces, we need a ceasefire, if this level of attack does not work, then we need another, much stronger one, but it needs to be constructed, maybe it will be in 5 years, so such a ceasefire is possible, i don’t see anything else yet real application. mongolia, putin arrived in mongolia, mongolia is a side of the roman. of the statute, ugh, putin should be arrested, we also predicted, talked, discussed it, but less so, the fact is the fact, putin came, putin was accepted, putin spoke, chatted, expressed his point of view and went back to russia, what consequences will this
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have for mr. vitaly, for international law, in general for geopolitical law. none, none, i can explain to you why, there is also a simple formula, putin of course really wanted to laugh at the international criminal court, he laughed, he succeeded in everything, he came to a country that signed the rome statute, went back to himself, his there met with a guard of honor with pomp, there were no lawsuits, not a single citizen filed a lawsuit in his own court, well, that 's important. the issue with the demand to arrest a war criminal who arrived on the territory of mongolia, have you seen this story that some polish citizen made a personal appeal to zelensky for volyn, uh, so it is obvious that zelensky is definitely not responsible for volyn, but
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as the president of ukraine, he became a participant in this lawsuit for her, she is trying to use the law of her own country, that is, we can be surprised to treat this ... lawsuit as propaganda, but that's how law works in democratic areas, the court can take note of this and can answer that i'm sorry, this lawsuit of yours is not against us and is inappropriate, well, according to the law, well, but informationally certain, well, when, well, when, what do i mean, when the president of sudan, amar albashar arrived in the south african republic at the invitation of the previous president of the south african republic, jacob zuma, also like putin to mongolia. there was a court decision that he should be detained, it simply did not have time to be implemented, and they perfectly understood that there could be a court decision, they just organized it so that he had time to leave, ugh, ugh, there was nothing like that in mongolia, so what am i leading to, it means that
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andriy needs the formula to be mutual, so that it is possible to come to such countries like mongolia, and that in this country... the court should be controlled, that is, it is necessary to take the list of countries that are signatories of the rome statute, to delete from this list all countries in which the judicial system is not controlled by the president. or a monarch, well, putin wanted to go to the south african republic, him explained that there could be a court decision, and you, if you don't make it, then you, well, this is despite the fact that the republic of south africa is also a quite corrupt country, but despite this, it is democratic, a democratic country is relative, there there may be a judge who will make such a decision, and then he may have problems, but he can brazil, then you do not forget, these are all federal countries in essence, there may be a decision at the level of the subject of the federation there. and whether the city in which the opposition is in charge is absolutely in brazil, that's all, well, the president
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lula himself was in prison, he was imprisoned by the courts themselves, that the court in brazil can imprison its own president or the speaker of the parliament, so why can't it imprison putin, well, that means we are deleting all these countries, we only have those countries in which the president controls the judicial system, as in mongolia, and in which no... citizen will not even try to do something, because he is aware of the dependence of his country on russia, well, these countries are becoming even fewer, you understand which countries , theoretically, putin can make his next trip , whether and whether he will try in general at least to carry out such only if he is provided, no, well, it is clear that before this some certain negotiations will be held, and it is clear that there will be, as they say... for and against the kremlin regime , so many of these countries, it is also necessary
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to understand, er, in principle there are not so many countries that have signed the rome statute, however, then, again, this is also a matter of air space, it is necessary to cross this air space the ratification was not simply signed. have yet ratified the rome statute, no just the participants of the international criminal court, well, this is a huge problem, you see, by the way, armenia, putin may want to go to armenia, this would really be such a moment for him to put prime minister nikol poshenian in a difficult situation, but you see, somehow he doesn't really go to armenia, he'd rather go to mongolia than to armenia. this is also an important point, because there are countries that will simply, in some way,
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try to do everything that he did not arrive there, and this is also a huge problem, which there are 122 countries in this, in this country, in total, so they ratified the rome statute, that ’s how i look, that’s it, so, well, this is most of the world, well, that’s right, but this is the democratic part of the world, don’t forget, in the un 193 countries in total, it's a pain, here you are, if you look at the map, yes, here i am looking, and we see that these are generally african countries, they, among them there are also, what are those who control the judicial system, those , which do not control the judicial system, this is a whole, he will look for such countries, of course, right? well , that's all, but there aren't many of them, as you can see, you you can cross out europe completely,
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cross out north america, cross out latin america, because there are no dictatorships that would control the judicial system, so there are some isolated countries in asia, there are very few of them, they have ratified almost nothing there, as you see in asia there are no such countries, in fact. japan doesn't count, though, and no matter what, oh we, by the way, dear viewers, we can see this map on the screen right now, that is, only the countries of africa remain, yes, which mr. vitaliy and i now we are considering, you now see this map on your screens and here and what you need there is a green color, and here you see the participating states that signed and ratified it in green color, but in yellow color they signed, but did not ratify.. ..
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so, as they say, the choice is not that big, i think, i think that they tried to sway this poor mongolia to this visit for a long time, we still understand. and by the way, when this visit took place, our mongolian colleagues from the democratic press specially recorded a video and translated it in russian, why don't you understand that we, 95% of our oil products come from russia, we cannot arrest putin for the simple reason that we are between russia and
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china, and here the question is obvious, what if putin came to you , you can't arrest him, the question is what you... asked him, well, you invited him precisely because he told you that you want further economic cooperation, well, of course, in such a situation , we can have economic cooperation only if you will come to our meeting and most importantly, the consequences, the international criminal court has no right to even suspend the authority of a judge from mongolia, who recently started working in the panel of this court, in principle, no real consequences except for such a conditional disgrace of the decision. to invite and release putin, there is no, and that is why this is a precedent, but i repeat, a precedent only for those countries in which the government clearly controls the judiciary, and putin understands this very well, that, as you understand, he will not enter any india, even if he gets invited three times on rendermode because on rendramodi, like lula, like cyril
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ramaphosa, like everyone else, cannot give him a security guarantee, a putin-type man without security guarantees. will not go anywhere in his life, and that's why he can, it's such a pyrrhic victory, you know, you can go somewhere a couple of times, but in any case, the rest of the world remains untouched for him, well, let's continue our conversation on the air, in a few minutes we will have a short break and we will be back, don't switch. ukraine. albania only on mego. conclusions after the euro are made now it's time for the nations league where we need to win every match. cheer on september 7 at 9:45 p.m., exclusively on meego. snow, physical activity, sneezing. even during such a small load, urinary incontinence can make itself felt. feminost uro helped me. thanks to
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the president, on the other hand, and the majority, on the other hand, actually considered the appointment of new ministers, such a reshuffle resulted, although some of those government officials who worked before... this change were shuffled into the office of the president of ukraine, in particular, we saw that iryna vereshchuk was appointed deputy head of the office of the president of ukraine. on your screens right now we can see these reshuffles, who became who, someone got a promotion, someone from the deputies got the position of minister, well , we have what... but here a question arises for many people, for many experts, for many journalists, that this
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shuffling, this reshuffling in the government, it was actually of such a formal nature, because it didn't happen almost once after the resignation of the report of these people, so we saw these... positions between various authorities, why the president, why the authorities are shuffling now, it doesn't matter at all and and and what does it all mean, why now ? does not matter at all, now, not now, we have to realize quite a simple thing, if we want to be a european country at all, ministers are usually politicians in normal countries, they are political figures who come from certain political forces and carry out in their positions the political program of these parties. these are not managers in any way, uh, managers in power, which is formed by political power, in principle should not be , cannot be by definition, whether it is russia or
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belarus, managers are in charge there, and the management of ukraine is very similar to this, seriously speaking, so what are we talking about now ? dmytro kuleba was the most prominent person in the government internationally , and we discussed what kind of minister dmytro kuleba was, what kind of minister andriy sebykh will be, but i apologize to dmytro kuleba. and andriy sebigo, they are professional diplomats, a diplomat should not head the ministry of foreign affairs, it is not normal in education, anywhere, but annalena berbuk spoke warmly about dmytro koleba, she is a diplomat, she is the leader of the green party, i apologize, a candidate for the position of chancellor, just the greens did not win the elections, antoni blinke spoke warmly about dmytro kolyba, he is a professional diplomat, he is a political figure and an expert or something. i don't know, the minister of foreign affairs of italy tajani, he is a diplomat, he is the leader of the berlusconi party, sikorsky, he is
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a diplomat, he was once the minister of defense, he is a political figure, he was one of the leaders of the law and justice party, and then the civic platform party, when when the views of the leaders of law and justice began to contradict his political views, and we are constantly discussing... some reshuffles in some council of ministers of the ukrainian ssr, these are managers, they can be better, they can be worse, but in a european country, managers do not manage ministries, these people, they should be, mostly in the positions of state secretaries of ministries, to choose such a career, and to move in this career, and to move along this line, and ministers should be politicians, in conditions where ukrainian society does not, in principle, understand what politics is? and when the head of state has never been involved in politics, he says: there are several managers managing together with me, this cannot be, sullivan is not a manager, he is
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a political expert, he is a figure who is in the biden administration, why is it important that we understand because when the country is run by managers, there is no political discussion, here is volodymyr zelenskyi, he has single-handedly ruled the country since 2019, in fact, he is the only ... person who makes all the decisions in the entire vertical of power, in fact , anyone else does not make any decisions, does not make any decisions of the prime minister, who did not even come to the on changes in his own office, actually about this and actually, so why do you come to him, if he is a manager, none of the representatives of the office of the president of ukraine make decisions, because they are managers, managers do not make decisions, they provide, so there is one a person who until 2019, she was engaged in anything but politics, and this person is in conditions... when it comes to whether this state will exist tomorrow on the political map of the world, or has disappeared, as if it never existed and will become part of russia, one person makes all decisions in
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accordance with some... to reports and views offered by people who are not interested in a political career, that's the most important thing: not interested in a political career, because the minister should be interested in a successful political career ery, in how to find dialogue with people, not with zelensky, but with citizens who will later vote for him, because he is a politician, annalina burbak does not think about how to please olaf. scholz, she is thinking about how to please the people who will vote for the green party in the coming years, that is, to be effective in the position of foreign minister, in the eyes of the people, not in the eyes of scholz. finance minister, germany, lindner is thinking about how to be effective in the eyes of the free democrat voters, not in the eyes of scholze. if they appear to be trying
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decide something together with the chancellor, them at once. they are being punished, as it happened in the last regional elections in germany, and everyone says that this is their punishment for forgetting that they are politicians, ugh, so the names of ukrainian ministers do not matter, what matters is the effectiveness of decision-making, can it be effective decisions that are made in the absence of political life, no, because then it turns into a lottery, today you can make some decision, tomorrow you make some fatal decision that leads to... the roof of your own state and the defeat of your army, can it be? of course it can, because there are no competing opinions in any democratic state, again, if we do not want to build a russian belarus here, and if we do, then it is not clear why we are at war with russia, we can join it and calmly together with to build what we like with it. so, if we don't want to build russia and belarus here, then we need a political life. why did i insist all the time on the need to create a government
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of national... unity, because i knew for sure that the ministers of this government, especially if they are statesmen, and we understand that in our national democratic parties, unlike this party, which was molded, it is not known from what in won the elections in 2019, it is the politicians, or they are the experts who are supported by statist political forces, thanks to whom ukraine has existed for three decades, and did not disappear a long time ago, as was planned in moscow, you understand, if we did not have b... national-democratic political forces, there would have been neither independence in the 90s, nor the survival of ukraine in the kuchmiv period, there would have been no national democrats, the kuchmiv oligarchs would have long ago joined this unfortunate ukraine to the russian federation, even before putin, nor the maidan of 2004, nor maidan in 2013-14, none of this would have happened, it would have been here a long time ago, well , if not russia in the full sense of the word, then belarus, and a russian
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governor would have been sitting here a long time ago. and a long time ago no one would have said a word on television in ukrainian, and long ago the flag would have been there red and blue, not the one that you and i are now defending together with the state, everything ended a long time ago, because the majority of the population would have watched it completely calmly, because they voted for pro-russian politicians, that would be the case, and that's why i thought , that the government of national unity is a guarantee that once again ukrainian society will not make a suicidal mistake. in conditions where the question of the survival of the state is the main question for everyone, because now it is not just about the survival of the state, but about what russia will undoubtedly destroy and drive out the vast majority of ukrainians, and all those who watch television today will look for themselves, if they are not in their graves, which i am far from sure, will look for their fate in other worlds in the conditions of the greatest migration, i would said, tests in the history of europe of the 21st century, all this, can
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it all be, of course it can. you do not even imagine the scale of this, what can be? why then should we hope that the lottery will take us out, it will not take us out, the lottery never takes anyone, never taken out, because in the lottery you can make a good decision, or you can make a bad one. if there are conditions of competition, if a person who is in the government, the minister of defense, the minister of foreign affairs, the minister of the interior, the minister of finance, they understand that they have a political future, they can say: say no to the president, you have to do it differently, the government can say no to the president, the president can understand what the recommendations of the government are, agree with them or disagree, because there may be a situation when the right of the president to the government is not the same it was and is competitive work, what is going on here, what should be the fate of all these people who have left the government, some of them can only think that they will start flying...

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