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an unusual look at the news: good health, ladies and gentlemen, my name is mykola veresin, a sharp presentation of facts and competent opinions, for example, if mykola veresin did this, he would go to prison, a special look at the events in ukraine, so it is not necessary to say that the fish rots from the head, no, not from the head, and beyond its limits, then who china, my heart hurts, all this in the information marathon with mykola veresny, saturday 17. 10 sunday 18:15 at espresso. direct ether we return. andriy smoliy, vitaly portnikov. and we continue our conversation. another important event took place this week, the so-called reformatting of the government. in fact, we have seen a number of ministers write statements of their own.

wish, after which these statements were submitted to the verkhovna rada of ukraine for consideration, well, on the part of the president, on the other hand, the majority, actually considered the appointment of new ministers, this was the reshuffle, although some of the government officials who worked before this change were shuffled to the office of the president of ukraine. in particular, we saw that iryna vereshchuk was appointed deputy head of the office of the president of ukraine. on your screens right now we can see exactly these changes, who became who, someone got a promotion, someone from the deputies got the position of minister, but we have what we have, but many people have a question here. in

many experts, many journalists that here is this shuffling, this reshuffling in the government, it was actually of such a formal nature, because it did not happen almost once after the resignation of the report of these people, so we saw these reshuffles between different authorities, why the president... why is the government shuffling now, it doesn't matter at all the deck and and and what does it all mean, why now, it doesn't matter at all, now, not now, we have to realize a fairly simple thing, if we want to be a european country at all, ministers are, as a rule, politicians in normal countries these are political figures who come from certain political forces and carry out the political program of these parties in their positions, they are not managers, uh, managers in... in power, which

is formed by a political force, in principle there should not be, cannot be by definition, whether it is russia or belarus, there are managers who manage and the management of ukraine is very similar to this, if we are serious, because here we are now, did we talk about the most prominent person there internationally in the government was dmytro kuleba , and we discussed what he was like minister dmytro kuleba, what kind of minister will andriy sybig be, but i apologize, dmytro kuliba and andriy sebigo, they are professional diplomats, ugh, a diplomat should not head a ministry. for foreign affairs, it is not so normal in education, nowhere, but annalena berbok spoke warmly of dmytro koleba, she is a diplomat, she is the leader of the green party, i apologize, the candidate for the position of chancellor, the greens simply did not win the elections, he spoke warmly of dmytro koleba antoni blink, he is a professional diplomat, he is a political figure or an expert, or there, i don't know, the minister. of foreign affairs

of italy tajani, he is a diplomat, he is the leader of the berlusconi party, sikorsky, he is a diplomat, he was once the minister of defense, he is a political figure, he was one of the leaders of the party of law and affairs. political views, and we are constantly discussing some kind of reshuffle in some council of ministers of the ukrainian ssr, these are managers, they can be better, they can be worse, but in a european country, managers do not manage ministries, because these people should mostly be on positions of state secretaries of the ministry. to choose such a career, yes, and move along this career path, move along this line, and ministers should be politicians, in conditions where ukrainian society does not understand what politics is, in principle, and when the head of state has never been involved in politics , he is already talking, there are several managers managing with me, it

cannot be, sullivan is not a manager, he is a political expert, he is a figure who is in the biden administration, why is this ... it is important that we understand, because when the country is run managers, there is no political discussions, here is volodymyr zelenskyi, he has single-handedly ruled the country since 2019, in fact he is the only person who makes all decisions on the entire vertical of power, in fact anyone else does not make any decisions, does not make any decisions of the prime minister, who he didn't even come to the changes in his own urat, actually about this and why do you come to him, if he the manager does not make a decision. none of the representatives of the office of the president of ukraine, because they are managers, managers do not approve, they ensure so there is one person who until 2019 was engaged in anything but politics, and this person is in a situation where it is about whether this state will exist tomorrow on the political map of the world, or has disappeared, as if

it never existed and will become part of russia, one person makes all decisions in accordance with some of the reports and views that... are offered by people who are not interested in a political career, here is the most important thing: not interested in a political career, because the minister must be interested in a successful political career, v therefore, how to find a dialogue with people, not the greens, but with citizens who will later vote for him, because he is a politician, annalena burbak does not think how to please olaf scholz, she thinks how to please the people who will be in the following years. .. to vote for the green party, that is, to be effective in the position of minister of foreign affairs in the eyes of the people, and not in the eyes of scholz. finance minister, germany, lindner is thinking about how to be effective in the eyes of the free democrat voters, not in the eyes of scholz. if

they appear to be trying something decide together with the chancellor, they are immediately punished, as it happened in the last regional elections in germany, and everyone says. this is their punishment for forgetting that they are politicians, well, that's why the names of ukrainian ministers don't matter, what matters is the effectiveness of decision-making, whether decisions made in the absence of political life can be effective, no, because then it turns for the lottery, today you can make some decision, tomorrow you make some fatal decision that leads to the collapse of your own state and the defeat of your army, can it be so, of course it can, because... there are no competing opinions in any democratic state, again, if we do not want to build russia or belarus here, and if we want , then it is not clear why we are at war with russia, we can join it and calmly build together with it what we like, so if we do not want to build russia and belarus here,

then we need a political life, why i all the time insisted on the need to create a government of national unity, because i knew for sure that the ministers of this government, especially if they are statesmen. and we understand that in our national-democratic parties, unlike this party, which was molded, it is not known why it won the elections in 2019, there are politicians, or they are experts who are supported by statist political forces, thanks to whom ukraine in general three decades exists, and has not disappeared a long time ago, as it was planned in moscow. you understand, if we didn't have national-democratic political forces, there wouldn't even be independence 90s. neither the survival of ukraine in the kuchmiv period, there would have been no national democrats, the kuchmiv oligarchs would have joined this unfortunate ukraine to the russian federation a long time ago, even before putin, neither the maidan of 2004, nor the maidan of 2013, 14, none of this would have happened, it would have been here a long time ago , well

, if not russia in the full sense of the word, then belarus, and a russian governor would have been sitting here a long time ago, and a long time ago no one would have said a word on television in ukrainian, and a long time ago... it would have been red and blue, not that one , which you and i are now protecting together with state, everything ended a long time ago, because the majority of the population watched absolutely calmly, because it voted for pro-russian politicians, so it would have been, and that is why i believed that the government of national unity is a guarantee that once again ukrainian society will not will make a suicidal mistake in conditions when the issue of the survival of the state is the main issue for everyone, because now it is not just about the survival of the state, but about the fact that russia will undoubtedly destroy and expel the vast majority of ukrainians, and all those who are watching today television, they will look for themselves, if they are not in their graves. what i am far from sure of, they will seek their fate in other worlds in the conditions of the greatest migration, i

would say, test in the history of europe in the 21st century, all this, can it all be, of course it can, you cannot even imagine the scale of this , what can be, why then we should hope that the lottery will take us out, not take us out, lotteries have never taken anyone out, because in the lottery you can make a successful decision, and you can fail, if there are conditions. competition, if a person who is in the government, the minister of defense, the minister of foreign affairs, the minister of the interior, the minister of finance, they understand that they have a political future, they can say to the president no, it is necessary to do differently, the government can say no to the president, the president can understand what are recommendations of the government, agree with them or disagree, because there can be a situation when the right of the president over the government, that was not the case either, and it is. competitive work, what is going on here, what should be the fate of all these people who have left the government, some

of them can only think that they will start a political career, but as a rule, this never happens with former ministers in our conditions, on the contrary, in our country, even politicians, after becoming ministers, cease to be politicians, and after that their the rating is zero, well within the margin of error, and if it is a manager, well, someone will move. for a job at some state or non-state, private company, i will advise, someone will be there, maybe an ambassador somewhere, because now even diplomatic work has turned into a real scene, someone there will be someone else, it doesn't matter, that is, these people, when they are in the ministerial offices, they think about everything, but not about their political future, and i repeat again, thinking about the political future means... to think about people, not to think about one's political future, is to think about one

person, about volodymyr zelenskyi, which means that the citizens of ukraine should decide for themselves who their ministers should think about, about them or about zelenskyi, if i were a minister now -what matters, from internal to foreign, why should i think about citizens who will not vote for me, i am not a politician, i was invited to work for the president, if i do something that he does not like, my work will be blocked, i can... be removed from office , my department will suffer, which means, of course, i have to do everything possible and impossible to please this person, and that is why these people, they write, they speak, and andriy sibyga clearly said that working in the office of the president of ukraine is the best time of his life for a person who becomes a foreign minister of ukraine, these are very important and necessary words in order to continue. career in these circumstances, yes, it is possible, soviet words, or when andriy melnyk, the former ambassador to

germany and the current one in brazil, calls zelensky the best diplomat of almost there 21st century in a public interview, this is absolutely soviet behavior of officials, i saw this only at the congresses of the communist party, when all interviews began with the words of our genius leonid brezhnev, but again, i absolutely do not blame sybiz either. nor melnyk, nor any other ukrainian officials, because they exist in a system where they depend exclusively on the approval of one person, they no longer depend on the ukrainian people at all, the ukrainian people have no influence on their further career, and they are officials , they need to move up the line, they need to work in embassies, be ministers, implement some of their ideas about how a ministry or an embassy should work, without approval. the attitude of one single person, the president of ukraine and those managers,

who serve this person, as he himself says, it is impossible to do anything in the country, it is such a vertical of power, it is a super-presidential republic since 2019, which after 2022 got rid of another important regulator, which, after all, was there, which could at critical moments replace the absence politicians, this is public control, because people understand that it is not necessary. now it is hard to somehow respond to certain actions of the authorities, because it can also end in the collapse of the state and be in the hands of russia, and i apologize to the parliamentary control, which would he was not, they also got rid of him, because... they at least came and there was an hour of questions to the government, at least the ministers even sometimes reported, it was also correct, but it was also a fiction, listen, if, if people voted for the ministers of the last name, which they found out at the time of voting, you say, they did not report, so they voted for the government in the 19th year, they are people, surnames that none of the voters who

voted for them knew, they voted for ministers, surnames which they did not know at the time of the vote, why control those whom you you don't know i'm sorry if you marry a person you don't know and after that you never see that person even though she is considered your wife, how will you control her and what report do you want to hear at the time of divorce, andrew, if between you there was no connection, moreover, i think that some of the people's deputies do not even know the surnames of those whom they dismissed and whom they appointed, let's be frank, let's be frank, of course it sounds like that, but the main thing is that the president knows the surname , in this system it is important that the president... knows the family name, because it is the instrument of power. well, unfortunately, we have what we have, and this is how a reshuffle took place in our government, if you can call it a reshuffle, and we have a short break, and we will come back

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right now. and affect our lives, of course, the news feed reports about them, but it is not enough to know what is happening, it is necessary to understand, antin borkovskii and invited experts soberly assess the events, analyze them, modeling our future, which saturdays at 1:10 p.m. with a repeat at 10:00 p.m. :00. studio event with anton borkovsky at espresso. an unusual look at the news. good health, ladies and gentlemen, that's my name. special view on the events in ukraine, so it is not necessary to say that the fish rots from the head, no, not from the head and behind it borders, then who is china, my heart aches, all this in the informational marathon with mykola veresny, saturday 5:10 p.m., sunday 6:15 p.m. at espresso. tsokyrzonnia,

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a ukrainian population in the polish republic, almost 700 thousand ukrainians were deprived of a small homeland forever, the saturday political club, we are coming back, and now... we are talking about other topics that concern, in particular, our country, and of course, of course europe, of course those political processes that are taking place in europe and not only in europe, but we will talk about the situation that is developing with turkey, yes, which is developing with brics, which is developing with possible accession. of this country to brics, and i think we 'll talk about probably rammstein, yeah, about those conclusions, because we kind of didn't get

to talk about that in the first part when we had the security bloc, but i think , that we need to go back to this and also speak up because it is important for our country and it is important for us to understand what kind of help will there be for ukraine, what political processes took place and are taking place there. let's probably start with ramstein then, shall we? so, mr. vitaly, another meeting was held, volodymyr zelenskyi arrived there in person, which is also interesting by the way, because as a rule he did not go there, so the president does not always, or rather, not even always, and the president does not go there, this representation is much lower or minister defense, or the minister of foreign affairs, or others, or military leaders, but still the president zelensky arrived there, he made a statement, he made some very harsh words about

putin, he actually talked about missiles, about the weapons that putin receives from the worst regimes in the world to kill children, and here i completely agree and i cannot deny it, because it absolute truth so about ramstein, what are the first results we are seeing now, and anyway, what do you think we can expect after, whether we will receive increased aid, whether we will finally receive a sufficient amount of air defense, whether our international partners, who very often will hear everything after all, they slow down in many issues of aid to our country, but at least after this, and one more very important thing, the president after... ramstein flew to italy and today, if i'm not mistaken, is participating in one of the forums there, in the economic forum, and we know that italy also has its own

position regarding, regarding missiles, regarding strikes on the territory of russia. mr. vitaly, please. well, i think the most important thing is why the president even participated in this summit. the fact that this is the first rapstein after the course operation. and in his speech on this meetings for focused specifically on kurdish operations, this is in principle an absolutely correct approach. why? because it was the kurdish operation that changed the political character of the war. we talk a lot about how it changed the very security nature of the war and we say that in fact it is russia that occupies 27% of the territory of ukraine, and ukraine has taken control of several districts of the okur region, this cannot be measured territorially, the gains of russia, the gains of ukraine . and you can agree with this, but at the same time you need to understand something else ukraine transferred the war to the sovereign territory of the russian federation, which before this

kurdish operation could be considered a war taking place exclusively on the territory of ukraine, that is, a special military operation of the russians on our territory. and this is a real war, the russian-ukrainian war, not in words, but in reality. and it was very important to see how our allies perceive it. and you. that they take it calmly, because just a few months ago, if you and i discussed the possibility of how the russian invasion of ukrainian troops on the sovereign the territory of ukraine will be accepted by the measure, we discussed, he will probably not like it very much, they will condemn the judge at the word, they will say that this is absolutely unacceptable, that the war should take place exclusively on the territory of ukraine, that it cannot be spread on the territory of russia, so that afraid of words. should be afraid of escalation, but all this did not happen, on the contrary, all the leading western leaders said that the war could take place on the territory of russia, because it is the same. the territory

from which the aggression against ukraine is carried out, well maybe with the exception of donald trump, who began to scare the third world war, but we know that the former american president has a specific position when it comes to russia, and i think we could also make sure of this more than once, this is one such very important moment , another point, no less important, is that western countries calmly accepted the fact that western weapons are used during this operation. they did not start saying that ukraine has its own weapons to use in this war. no, no, they said, well, yes, that's fine, that's it their business when our weapons go into their arms, they can do whatever they want with them. and here, of course, a logical question arises, why you can do whatever you want with your combat vehicles, but not with missiles. why can you do whatever you want with your military vehicles on the territory of russia, not ukraine. and

with rockets. you can't do that, it's a beautiful question, in my opinion, and it seems to me that everyone who was at ramstein's meeting heard this very question, even if it was not clearly expressed, and the fact that the meeting was of the president of ukraine with the secretary of defense of the united states, lloyd oskin, this is also an important thing, because you understand, we are talking about a short distance now, this short distance, it is approximately from... september 2024 to march 2025, this is what it can do in this time, this administration, and i think that at one time president biden dreamed that at the end of this term of his office there could at least be a suspension of the wars in ukraine in the middle east, now it is not so much to hope for it, maybe, although on the other hand, if we put himself in putin's place, then

maybe it would be better for him to agree on a stop to the war now, when the expected biden is the clear course, and he does not know what to really expect either from trump or from harris, huh, but again , putin's head is not ours to live with you, fortunately, and in that sense, it may be some kind of short-term arrangement, what else can this administration allow to force russia to peace, will it allow the use of its long-range weapons, of course ... now the americans say no, but i have no doubt that the situation may change, and most importantly, it may not change publicly. of course, it is necessary to have a consensus among nato allies, because the fact that zelensky is in italy, talking with prime minister giorgia meleni, with other italian politicians, it is also important from this point of view that italy is categorically against the use of their weapons to strike on

the territory of russia, and thus... unity among the leading nato member countries. well, in any case, we can clearly say that the situation is what it is, and that in ramstein it was possible to see the simple fact that the west has in principle agreed to the possibility of using its weapons on the territory of the russian federation, that all subsequent packages of weapons are being discussed with this tendency in mind. this is a trend. and no one said that the way the kurdish operation took place, another bryansk or belgorod operation cannot take place tomorrow, at least the russians should think about it, should think that their borders can be breached with the help of modern western equipment, which they very often do not have what to oppose and accumulate forces on the border, to prevent such a breakthrough. i believe that this is a very important result of this kurdish operation, which

you and i must always remember, is that... the russians will now be forced to keep significant forces on the border with ukraine, which they did not keep, who was there aware of the region, what are the soldiers, and now a strong army will be needed, which must prepare for the next breakthrough, this is an important thing, so in this regard, i think that ramstein showed it, showed it, and from the point of view of this accentuation in kurtshchyna, showed that ukraine needs a new one help to stop the advance of the enemy in the pokrov direction. it is no coincidence that just now reports began to appear that the advance of the procians is slowing down and that they may not capture pokrovsk, but they would very much like to capture pokrovsk, we understand this, and not only from a strategic point of view, but also from an economic point of view , because they believe that they will thus destroy all our metallurgy if they capture pokrovsk with its coking coal, so everything is very simple if we are talking about visas.