let's talk about how we are doing with ecology in general, what is happening, in particular with the seim river, is this water really dangerous, can people also be affected, we will talk about it all, we will have a guest on this topic, oleg listopad, we are waiting for him ans, the expert of the national interests protection network, here, i actually welcome him to our air, mr. oleg, good! day, good day, well, this week's pollution of the river seim is a big topic of concern, how bad everything is and is it already clear what is this river polluted with, and what damage we have already got as for the source of pollution, there are only assumptions, in my opinion, fully justified, that this pollution came from... the russian federation,

it is not possible to establish in more detail, because experts from the consumer service of the state environmental inspection and other services cannot even approach the border. because the five-kilometer border zone in sumy oblast is under fire, it is forbidden to visit, it is mined, and so on, and we can't communicate with someone on the other side, just like that, there is hardly an enemy there. will open a passage for us and say: look at what is happening here, regarding the situation, the diet was very badly affected, er, many fish died, died, er, not only fish, other aquatic organisms died, er, this fish was caught so that it would no longer decompose, rot in the water, and in the gums.

in the same way, and we are talking about 10-12 tons, there and there, i won’t say the exact figures at the moment, this is official information from the ministry of the environment, from the new minister of the environment, here is the cloud of pollution moving further down the valley to kyiv, to the desnya water intake , where it is predicted to be somewhere around three days later. i will say right away that the team of this dysnyatsk reservoir, desnyatsk water treatment station wrote that they are ready to take all measures so that the people of kyiv receive purified water and do not worry about their health, at least such official information is posted on their website, of course, but here what fences of this water are they talking about? that is

, there is some analysis of what is there in that event, and a lot has been done, many samples have been taken by various services, some of them have been made public, unfortunately, not all, if anyone wants keep an eye out, there is such an eco-threat site, there is a map of water pollution, it is filled with the ministry of environment, and there is a corresponding map, the state agency of water resources, it can be increased there too. find these points where the samples were taken and on the mine map of the state agency of water resources with dates, on the ecological threat, it's just that the last one is not visible when the samples were taken, and you can see what the results are, the results indicate that the oxygen level is very low, yes, yes, that's it, very low level of oxygen in the water, very active oxygen is consumed by the organic matter that got there. that is, today there is

information only that there is an excess of organic substances, correspondingly, to its acidification, a lot of oxygen is consumed, the level decreases and there is a murky of fish and other living organisms. many questions and many discussions, whether there is something more poisonous. the official information was that pesticides were found in only one sample in the diet. pesticides are banned, no other chemical...noxious substances were found, my guess is that these are some old stories somewhere, poisonous chemicals were used and they were found there locally, and they say that the citizens are still conscious, somewhere also in the territory where the sejm is held, they took a sample of sludge, sent it to an independent laboratory, and there they also found some dangerous substances, chemicals, to be precise, and there is an analysis, there is an assumption, i haven't heard, that is

, the results of the test itself, they are on the internet, they are available, but it is not specified who took the samples, because taking samples of the sludge is not an easy task, you need to master it. methodology, er, and who analyzed, and i am not talking about the analysis itself, i would not take it so categorically as it is all written there, to say that these are the consequences of the shelling there, that this is something else, something else, and this is only a test, again, that's why it is so unpleasant, despite the fact that by... information was improving from on the part of state authorities, communication is still insufficient today. people, not having complete information, start to guess, start to write different, panicked,

i would even say posts, so i strongly advise the new leadership of the ministry of the environment, together with colleagues from the state emergency service, from the state consumer service, who do not obey. the ministry to attend briefings together and provide people with complete and objective information about what is happening. this is actually very good advice, because the last thing we heard was the deputy minister of ecology, it was not from the minister of ecology, she told us, now i will tell you who, and the ministry of environment said that on september 10, polluted water from the gum will reach. not kyiv, what does it mean when a person hears such a thing in the news or sees such a headline on the internet, and the deputy minister said it, so okay, that is, the day after tomorrow, that is happening in kyiv, can you boil water in a kettle, or can you drink this water, relatively speaking, from the tap, well, a situation happens, a person

wants to drink water terribly, this is not a matter for the ministry, because according to the law, the provision of drinking water to the population local authorities are responsible. self-governance, it is a matter for the kyiv authorities, respectively, to what extent is it ready to respond to this situation, to what extent does it know this situation, to what extent does it have information about this situation, chernihiv, for example, did a very good job, well, their situation is better, they under underground water intakes, despite that chernihiv vodokanal took samples from the gums and made analyzes and regularly informed. people about what is happening there, because people are worried and constantly wrote: don't worry, we have an underground water intake. in kyiv, dysniatka, dysniatsky water intake supplies about 60% of kyiv, we also have the dnieper water intake, on the right bank, well, closer to the right bank,

that is, this pollution is unlikely to affect it in any case, and there is also an artesian water intake, or it is possible to transfer water from some... water intakes to others, it is necessary to ask the city authorities again, or the water utility. yes, a lot of things have been done, or not done, that we are currently digging in this situation, when environmentalists kept saying, bequeath the gum, make it a national natural park, do not allow sand to be mined there, the sand at the bottom of the gum is a natural filter, here at the same station on the desnyatka, or on the dniprovskyi at... any other, one stage of cleaning is sand filters, they are driven through them and the sediment remains there, on these filters, then their restore these filters. tesna itself filters the seymba, the seymba too, well, as much as it could with a lower flow rate, no, sand mining is going on,

the more sand is mined, the lower the ability of the desna or any river to self-renew, here is one of the examples: they say there is not enough water now, now there are videos about the lack of water on all the rivers. and by the way, freezing is happening in rivers, freezing is happening in russia, due to the fact that there is not enough oxygen, why the water level is low, because the floodplains have been plowed, because the swamps in the single bogs are being destroyed in the land, hot pies are distributed, a license to extract peat, someone makes money from it, from the mined peat, someone makes money from it, the state receives pennies on a large account, the water level of the rivers drops and then we all, but what to do, what to do, but there are no rivers deal with pollution, the situation, well, but we also have figures, by the way, that kyiv takes almost half of its drinking water from the river, that is, 60%, that is , of course, that the city government will do what depends on it, but it does not can, for example, connect some other river, true, sir olezhe, well, that means i haven’t been to dysniatka,

to other pre-treatment stations, there is a cleaning process there. a large amount of aluminum compounds are added to the water in the first stages, which just precipitate the suspended substances, then it is added there... stages of chlorine compounds, which bind the organic matter, and the water is also purified, the sand filters that i mentioned, the settling tanks and so on, the question is whether the capacity of these filters will be enough, there are a certain number of them, and how quickly they get clogged if the water goes heavily booked, they will get stuck faster, the question is how intense the pollution will be, it is less if official information is to be believed. it is less, because it is diluted, because water aeration was included,

there is different information about the number of installations, water aeration, but this method, as practice shows, is effective, not bad, well, maybe it should be scaled up, before it’s too late, maybe the city government should to connect, including kyiv, i don’t know, what they show there, how the state emergency service pours hoses into the river, well , that’s... complete nonsense, and what they said about the activated sludge that they will use, it seems, and it seems that it was dropped, well , it also does absolutely nothing for the river, the fish must be collected unequivocally, collected and collected, buried, and everyone has to do their job, which means that all the dogs are now being hung up on the state ecological inspection, this is absolutely wrong, because its function is to control enterprises and citizens so that they do not pollute the environment, and not to collect fish, not to engage in river restoration. the issue of what other authorities deal with, the same dses, which must respond to critical situations, what

the state water resources agency, which is responsible for water resources management and monitoring, is engaged in this state water resources department has a modern, powerful laboratory certified according to international standards in vyshgorod, it was done, well , at least there the lion's share of the work was done under the previous leadership. the state photo agency was iryna avcherenko, and mykhailo khurev was the deputy, and later, while performing his duties, he was then the deputy minister of profile, and these people and their teams, there are many people the two of them worked for them, of course, they did a lot about this laboratory and plans for the control pool and so on, many processes were launched, why today all these developments are not properly implemented by the new management, i... i don't understand, er, if we talk about the actual

situation now, can we say that it is safe for people to bathe in the gums, for example, now there is a lack of oxygen, which means that there, where the pollution has reached, yes, and there it has reached, the ban is in effect , er, fishing, swimming, to use this water, and it is correct, absolutely logical, if there is organic matter there, er, if there is a decrease in oxygen, if... there is pollution, microorganisms begin to actively develop there, well , there are no dangerous pathogens, the analysis was taken, there is cholera , for example, they did not find it, but the fact that there will be an increase in e. coli, for example, the number, well, i think that it is most likely, i took a bath somewhere later with these dirty hands, drank coffee there, and that’s it, quick nasti and goodbye for a few days, so no, you don't have to bathe. no no fish catch, it is not necessary to do anything where the pollution has already reached. mr. oles, another

topic i wanted to raise is the fires in the chernobyl zone, over 2, 2,500 hectares, were affected in one way or another, or could that also be some sort of radioactive hazard because of that? the national academy of sciences of ukraine, its divisions are specialized. the institute, er, as part of the academy, scientists work honestly for their very modest salaries, they conducted research, made calculations, taking into account meteorological data and so on, er, i trust them absolutely, the dangers of radiation on today, because of these fires, there is no, well, this is already good news, well, in general, let's sum up, which one, how do we evaluate now? total environmental damage due to this war in the third year of the war, what can we say?

the damage is simply terrible, if we speak in numbers, even according to the soviet methods, which were re-approved at the beginning of the full-scale invasion and actually renamed there with small coefficients, it is 2.5 hryvnias, it is two annual budgets of ukraine, if calculated according to international methods, e- there are due to the lack of ecological services by ecosystems, i think these numbers will be much higher, and the question of applying other methods is acute. by the way, once again, the state ecological inspection is engaged in recording, why did i say that it does not need all the dogs, except for their functions, which i said earlier, they are also entrusted with recording, calculating the damage to the environment from russian aggression, what , thank you very much for this conversation and for your expertise,

kolakh, oleg listopad, an expert of the national interests protection network ans, were with us, we talked about whether it is necessary to be afraid of this polluted water in the seim river, they came to the conclusion that the ministry of ecology would be good, or is it now called environmental protection, it seems that the names of the ministries are changing so much that, to be honest , you can't even keep up with the names not to mention the ministers, but in short, it wouldn't be bad to actually hold some briefings in order to inform people of the real situation, and don't you know any stories of benefits. and then success stories like fictional ones, e.g. the dangers were heroically saved or protected from them, well, in a word, we need it, and meanwhile we are approaching the end, not the end, we are approaching a new stage, more precisely this hour, i wanted to say that at this hour we can still do

our best , go above and beyond and try to help our congregation. we still have 3 minutes left for this, in three minutes you can do very, very, very much in fact, you can transfer a huge amount of money, in particular for our fees, drone collection and rap, we do, all they know which for which brigades, this is the 47th brigade, this is the 110th brigade, this is the third separate assault brigade, the suprabrigades, we need to close this assembly and start immediately, a new one, of course, but it will be a completely different story, and i am sure... , that with that meeting , we just somehow, you know, we have to, we have to push it, push it, push it, we have already waited, in fact , the fighters at the front are waiting for this gathering, we sometimes, you know, some commentators just come to us, i have i mean the participants of our ether, who are somewhere on the front line, somewhere too they are collecting some money, and since we are still talking to them, they have already given them several tens of thousands,

well, let's finally close this collection too, well, we have to do it for now... you see, because we will be collecting for so long that the war will be over , and then what to do with those drones, of course i'm just kidding, it wouldn't be bad, but let's close this collection as soon as possible, i've already dropped some money this week and you know i'm doing it too, because what is called should be not a word, but a deed, as victor said andriyevich yushchenko, we had such a great president, and he is still there, in fact , the president is a lifelong, lifelong regalia. so to speak, with the exception of yanukovych, yanukovych is no longer the president, there was even a special decision to deprive him of this, this title. well, this is my goodbye, thank you to everyone who was with me this week, at these hours, but there is a telethon on espresso, so stay, be sweet

with us, we have more to tell, well, we will see you in a week so we will make our brooches for the military, as we will them send drones, along with them, how many troops will be there. martusya shows the various shapes she uses to make jewelry and talks about drones. at the age of eight, the young volunteer bought 10 warbirds that help. to our defenders at the front, i wanted to somehow help my defenders, and khresna and i were looking for an idea, because you have to come up with an idea first, and then make it, and we found on the internet that such jewelry is very popular now, and we decided to make it. first,

the girl kneads polymer clay, then rolls out into a thin layer, then squeezes out the desired shape. future decoration, he admits, it is sometimes very tiring, it is fun, but it is a little heavy, very heavy, but it is fun to do, to squeeze the clay, it is all fun, but not to bake, the godmother and mother put them to bake, because we do on this we bake a whole baking plate, specially such a bowl, after baking we pour them here, or if it is done... there must be an order, then we paint them, my mother paints them right away, and then my godfather clings to the fittings. jewelry began to be sold through social networks, from the sale of the first batch. received more than uah 3,000. then the girl and her mother joined the charity school fair. they sold absolutely all the jewelry they had collected, and the proceeds

were donated to help the army. in general, in two weeks of fruitful work and daily production of new decorations, it was possible to collect two drones at once, which the family did not expect at all. i felt joy that they buy them from us. i already thought, the future will be even better. when we buy so many drones, we didn't even think we could withdraw so much money and in such a short time, because in fact it is a lot for a week there 3-400 hryvnias, in fact people have relaxed and it is very difficult to collect, i.e. they stand still, here it is a wonderful, wonderful opportunity to have jewelry and accordingly, and we buy drones the assortment of jewelry is very diverse, but birds are especially popular. several doves with poppies. even sent abroad. canada, washington, usa, already sent. we also sent to germany, poland,

and other regions of ukraine. on everyone remembers our new post office because we go there every day to send mail. materials for future jewelry are chosen not cheap, says ivanna, so that the accessories last a long time. jewelry from 150 to 550 hryvnias. during 3 months of hard work , the volunteer and her mother purchased 10 unmanned aerial vehicles, which were handed over to the needs of our military. we send these drones to different brigades in 103, 80 and 44, the ones that were previous. martusya believes that her birds on their wings will bring peace to ukraine. meanwhile, when asked what she dreams about, she answers with a smile. i i want collect forever ema stadnyk, andriy polikovskyi, espresso tv channel. in september there are

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ignatiev, chairman of the council. of the ukrainian association of renewable energy visited us, glad to see, congratulations, glad to see, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, mr. stanislav, well , i will start with the last statement of the minister of energy, he was in the verkhovna rada, during the hour of questions to the government, he said, that of the planned gigawatt of gas shunting generation, hundreds of megawatts have already been built, that is, a significant share, and if everything goes well with our power system, the enemy will not will hit... critical infrastructure, then we will pass the winter successfully, in your opinion, can this gigawatt of generation really save ukraine from total darkness and total frost? well, first of all, what is being built now, local self-government bodies are being built, in large cities, such as my native kharkiv, gas piston installations are being installed for critical infrastructure facilities, primarily these are heat networks and... channels to

even in the absence of centralized energy supply, electricity supply, provide heat carrier and drinking water supply to citizens during periods of possible blackouts, and there are many scenarios here, regarding what the president wanted at the ukraine recovery conference in berlin, that is to build, especially in those cities where the heating networks have been destroyed, for example, kherson, mykolaiv, the namely kharkiv, in de-occupied cities such as irpin, bucha, akhtyrka and trostyanets in the sumy region, then to build such gas piston or gas turbine plants in thermal areas, instead of centralized power supply in order to have distributed power generation for a multi-storey residential building, b

in order to have. carrier, since we understand that either a turbine rotates, or how a car engine works, a gas turbine, there are combustion products, there is thermal energy that can heat the heat carrier, roughly speaking, water or any liquid and supply it to a multi-apartment building, unfortunately, such projects are not implemented now, and for this future, as we understand that the enemy is still before our victory or any other scenario. positive for ukraine, of course will hit our power system, so we will have a shortage of electricity, even after the end of the war, for more than one year, and maybe three or five years, so we have to understand that it is not 1 comb, but a minimum of 6 gw of built capacity is needed, first of all for large cities, in order to provide the decentralized population with heat supply and

electric energy, well... the government said back in the summer that mostly ukrainians need to rely on their own strength, and it is clear that many consumers, well, resorted to such expensive, the essence of procurement, this is small generators, if it is a private house, these are various heaters for the heating season, but it is clear that many citizens, well, cannot afford such expensive ones as for private homes. as well as projects for apartments, what are your tips on how to enter the winter with at least a little lighting, at least with a little warmth, well , he is really right here, you need to watch your wallet and how it fills up, first of all, you need to do the so-called sanitation of your building, or it is an apartment, or it is a private cottage building, that is, look where you are lose your heat, it can also be cracks.

not under the windows, and it is good and visible.