in our studio, historians of people's ukraine volodymyr vyatrovych and political scientist olek sahakyan were here on the air. we talked about how political trends in europe are changing in the politclub program, which was conducted for you today by vitaly portnikov, i wish you all friends, a peaceful evening and good night, no flights, and victory and peace to you, good luck, goodbye, tsakirzonnia, lost homeland. the banks are hilly, the former village of boykivske. on january 1, 1939 , 790 people lived in the village, 750 of them ukrainians. on june 12, 1946, the ukrainian population forcibly deported to the ussr. creative. the ukrainian village on the banks of the sian has disappeared. in 1939 , 960 residents lived in the village. 900

ukrainians. in 1947, as part of the vistula operation , the residents were evicted, and the village was burned down. yablinky is an ancient ukrainian village in the mountain ranges of the western beskids. as of 1938 , 600 people lived in the village, 562 of them ukrainians, some were deported to the ssr, and some to northern poland. the village ceased to exist. in total, there are more than 800 villages and towns with a ukrainian population in the republic of poland. almost 700 there were thousands of ukrainians. how long have you been in captivity for six months and two days, we are not women, we are animals, we are bitches, bitches, whores, they just got a kick out of it, that they can make fun of... and this face you have

to put your hands back when you leave cameras, you had to lower your head very low, honestly , it was very scary, the legs were not all that blue, they were just black, they were all merged, i even had bunions that did not come off my feet until now, that is, every day , morning and evening.

some are stronger than them, i was not afraid, the commander came and said that we were going to reinforce the position in peace, we put on armored personnel carriers, helmets, assault rifles, cartridges, grenades, whatever we had, but we still had hope that we were really going to reinforce our own, we left . in an incomprehensible direction, and then to us, i already understood then that it was a prisoner, surrendered by a civilian, surrendered by a civilian, led to us, surrounded us and said in one way, get out, machine guns pointed and that was it. came out,

it was fear, strong fear, we left the house one by one with our hands raised, towards us machine guns, pistols that were not aimed at us, they searched us to see if we had any weapons, then they put us on the flight, and there we were face down, and then they tied our hands, they put machine guns to our heads, and the boys turned out to be ... but they took me and the girl, well, these two girls were taken separately to their headquarters, to their command there, and in the evening we were kept in the cellar , the russian army had already arrived, not the dpr, but namely, the russians had already arrived, and they took us to sortana, well, there was a gathering of everyone there prisoners of war, i mostly worried about the girl. who was 21 years old

, tried to be like her as well as mother and sister , and well, they tried to eat support, well, she did not show fear, but it was honest, it was very... it was scary, oh, we retreated widely from our positions, and retreated to well, there was an order from the commander, that at the lycha plant, they moved to the bunker. were in the bunker, i helped the wounded, i helped her to eat, i helped the medics, there were some tampons to twist, there were such light bandages, who had what, because who was heavier, then they

were in the hospital, then when the hospital was bombed, they moved here already to our factory, well, only through different bunkers, the factory there was... very huge, big, just huge, and here and there they moved from bunker to bunker with seriously wounded , how they hid, what they did with the bodies, we didn't have time to bury them, because there was a lot of shelling, uh, at first, if they put bohdan on the bus, and when there were a lot of them, that they were there, we still had hope , that... we will send the bodies home to the family, to the parents, to the women, but when they were all gone more and more, we stacked just above the bunker, there between the second and third floors, and

we didn't have time not to bury, there was no way to even dig that hole to make such a mass grave. it was continuous shelling, it was the destruction of the entire city of mariupol, it was, well, it was the destruction of the people, they felt that they wanted, that russia wanted to simply destroy, well, wipe mariupol off the face of the earth, so how such a feeling that they wanted to use it as a battlefield, just to practice, their projectiles to test, well, how it explodes, what... power, well, they just have that feeling, well, it was, and the command made a decision to move into the bunker more in order to save the lives of people and soldiers, and well, we had seven in the bunker, seven children, the youngest was one year and three months old, we already had food, well, if

there was not enough food, we could eat there once a day, we could not eat, well, when i was able, well, well done guys, they mined, they found, they risked their lives. to find something, to find at least boys girls, oh, we had 240 at that time, but there were 119 left, we also had to pack the boys in the closet, and then take them out, once we, well, when we could go to mariupol more, some were still brought to the morh, hail they started beating us, and the girl's head was torn off. she had two children left in the bunker, but of course we told the children that mom just moved, mom’s task, she went to the second, well, to the second region, i always had, as they say, such a standby grenade in my pocket, i didn’t didn't think

never, but i will use her, because we are strong. but she was always with me, did you keep it for yourself or for the enemy? well, first for the enemy, if you know how they say, well, i don't know, but that's how it turned out, that's how it turned out that they were captured. they also cut it out on your arm, and how was your arm injured, they said that we will break and cut off your arms, that’s all, but it’s still an injury, well

, they broke the arm, the blows were on the arm, if they just hit the arm with a hammer, that's all, and it started after the injury hygromas began to grow when you... walked out of the cell, as they say, that's yeshmon, and well , we got it in the morning and in the evening, we beat our legs a lot, and i... if i had varicose veins on my legs, my legs were all what about the blue ones, they were just black, they were all merged, i didn’t even have the ghouls off my feet until now, that is, every day, in the morning and in the evening, to zero, and this face should be put back with your hands when you leave the cameras, it was necessary to lower the head very low, almost below the knees, and you got her waist if... they didn't like it in taganrog, honestly, it was scary in taganrog

, we waited for the night to just go to sleep , so that we didn't get up early at 6:00 , they came and took us out to the corridor, well , they put us on stretch marks, well, every day , we were checked, we were very afraid checking the fact that we were beaten on the legs, it turned out that we were sitting on a rope and we were also transferred to a corral where there are tiles and it is slippery, but if you fall, when they are on your legs, if you fall and you do not get up there in a second, they will also they can beat the body, girls used to do it more, how about you do you think where did they get all this aggression from the people to mock them there, well, as they said, well, they are all zombified there, they really are all zombified there, they are like that, well, i got the feeling that we they were attacked, we... took their country, ukraine, from them, well, if we came, we started fighting for ukraine, if,

this is all their territory, we, as they said, we simply leased it to you, we sang the national anthem, we their russian songs, er learned, forced to sing, poems, their stupid, this which, we counted with the girls in... during the time we were in kursk, it seems, 23 poems, so long, about fascism, about nazism, they undressed us in the corridor, lined up the guys, well, theirs, well, all these military , and we girls were undressed and led naked down the corridor, well, there were a lot of such beatings, and there was electricity, well, they were beaten and... and it was good for our bottoms, well, if only, they also broke our hands, well, that was all,

well, there were also threats, that they beat you on the head, well , there were threats that, well, with force there, that we will now send you to our cells in the cell specially trained people who are engaged in this, then, yes, then it was that terrible day, honestly. it's scary, because you don't remember how you came in, you don't remember what happened to you, if so, and how long it lasts, i don't know, i honestly don't remember, i won't even say it, one thing is good , the fact that they did not rape, one thing, it is thanks to god, thanking god that you raped many boys, yes, boys, it works out in us. when daganrogi was already being held, we had cameras, there were our cameras and guys, well, we heard everything that

what happens to the boys there, how they are beaten, what is done to them, and just like that it was somewhere across two cells, and he, or he was in the cell, well, in the cell next to us, then they brought the boys to him and raped him there, your is the husband also a soldier? in captivity for a couple of hours, then they were taken, the boys were taken separately, we had four girls, us separately, when you were captured, your husband was in that group, he was captured on the 13th, he is an officer, plus he is from 14 he fought in the 19th year, and i'm even afraid to think what was done to him there. i just don't know, or even, even

they do not give any confirmation, does he feed at all, what are the important things, it is possible to give from your personal life, but they coincided with the time there, what were the days for you, the grandson was a year old, when the granddaughter was a year old, it was probably exactly the most difficult for me is that i am not around, and i am alone... the most difficult was that i did not know what was with the children, and i really wanted them to know that i am alive, that i am here, i am, ku-ku, ku -ku, life, what kept you going, how did you

survive, faith in the fact that mom... at home, i have to come home, what i knew that f, i knew that i had only one mother, i had to to return home, that was a problem, it was, only this faith was there, well, as support, of course there was support from the girls in... they supported each other, well, the belief that i should come, return home, i was very afraid alone that my mother would not i will wait, i was very afraid, since she was sick, she, we visually baked cakes, flowers, glasses of champagne, we gave

each other gifts, it was all like that, we, we also had fun, with humor, we will support... each other, in our the cell was for six, but there were 39 girls in the cell, how were you placed on the floor, three men each, here how are the bunks in them so two-story, who is so smaller and thinner, they fit on these bunks, all the rest are on the floor on the table, that is, you get in exchange there, in fact, all the well... the flight seals are such, you know, such inhumane conditions, they are usually people they are breaking, it doesn't matter if we are broken, on the contrary, we supported each other, we are one after the other, but no, we are not broken, they will not wait, no, we even

sang the national anthem of ukraine there, yes, and we sang ukrainian songs, well, not as loudly as theirs, well, we... in the morning and in the evening, this was always the case in ukraine holy as prayer. we were constantly being transported somewhere, sometimes in airplanes, sometimes in these, my god, what are they called, vans, cars, we did not know where we were going, the fact that we were constantly blindfolded when we were already being taken to the exchange , well, we thought that we were blackmailing, well , we were flying somewhere again, then we were also put on the plane, we did not know where we were going, where... in what direction they were taking us now, and then, when we arrived to the crimea, he says, we were brought to simferopol, we were brought to simferopol, we smelled the sea, closer to the evening, somewhere at 6 o'clock in the evening, we went for a walk with the child,

the husband arrived just in time, and then we already realized that the exchange, exchange, exchange, exchange had already taken place. soon the first photos appeared, but i didn’t find her in the photos, i didn’t recognize her, it’s just that one photo is shared where all the girls are standing, i really didn’t recognize her, it was already ten in the evening, we already came home, already the baby fed, i already put him to bed, and somewhere or at 11 in the evening or at 152 she already called. they already saw each other via video link, but they couldn't tell each other nothing, because we cried, we just cried, and that was the second happy moment of our lives, when we

arrived, when we fell to our knees, we kissed our native ukrainian land, and even the boys, i remember filming. laughed, the girls say, yes, it was such a moment that it was very, and also when i heard my mother's voice, that she was glad that she was alive, huh, this, this is very, i wanted to see how you look these six months... ask me if it was a notebook, then i have the numbers of the sbu, and the hotline, the red cross, iryna vereshchuk and... geneva there, that's all i had, i slept at night and woke up to the phone, let's call, then i don't know, i looked around,

wherever i could, she doesn't tell me anything, this is what i listened to, this is the first time, this is the first time i 've heard, how many times have i asked like that, was she, don't ask, because i won't tell you anything, she just feels sorry for me. so that i don't experience it, so that i don't know it, did i get to know your paspis? yes, yes, he didn’t leave me, he slept with me, and where am i, he’s crazy with me, this is lordik, it turns out, we were in the sand in the 18th year, uh, the bitch brought puppies, and when the shelling began, its shrapnel they were killed, and just as they were, there were five of them, just as they were... for two weeks only the glasses were opened, i went to the commander, i said let's take them, i will feed them, father is alive, then i call him, i say

there is no place for children there, the dog, i will bring it, i will give it to someone there, it’s just a pity that he, well, i already knew that he would be mine, myself, the biggest one, i nursed him from a nipple, oh, i don’t know, if he was n’t there , how would i survive alone. such a jacket, her daughter had washed it, i don't know how many times, because it was all black, scratched, this is the only thing that is from captivity remained, because we were not with her, yes, we had, rings, engagement rings, and not everything remained there, this is the only thing for which it is a pity. i just never paid attention to such trifles, which i am now simply happy with, i am for every cocoon, for every leaf, for everyone, i

am just me, i am happy, i live, i am greatly overrated and appreciated, and it is said, always, i can’t say anything with my daughter, with my grandson, i want a lot, a lot of everything. to tell myself what i left out, what i didn't finish, to always say, i love you, i can't live without you, you are my family, you are my only dearest, i try to be more at home, well , there are moments where i need to go, well, yes, and so i try to be at home in the evening, i have become more like a homebody already, well, now. in the second way, if i started to live and appreciate more the fact that life is such that today you are, and tomorrow he is gone, and you are not,

well, you have this person, and tomorrow he is gone, you simply did not have time to do everything and to say, this girl is 21 years old, whom you mention all the time, she was with you, yes, with me all the time, i was in the hospital, my sister was in the hospital, she twins, their twins and this sister, she er... knits with her own hands, well , she made me a bunny, she sent me a bunny and a note, this is gratitude for the fact that i protected the most precious gift of her life, the president gave, what kind of courage is this, of the third degree, but a well-deserved marriage, well , you know, i am certainly proud of the fact that i was awarded the order, but somehow i want everyone

to return home, all alive, to be healthy, to return to their families, it will be probably it is better, why will you ever be able to forgive those people who are above you i was never bullied, i am honest, but... i would have told me that at least it would be possible to come a little bit, where they keep these prisoners of war, but i just want one, to be given to me, so that i can just be with him did the same thing that he did with me, well, what did they do with me, even though he didn't do it with me, well , so that he could feel simply, that when we had an exchange, they were exchanged, they all walked around in such a frenzy, in leather jackets , with apples, with suitcases on wheels, all such washed-up, chosen beauties, and... we all walked dried up, beaten, as it were, dirty and torn, never i'm sorry, they beat me, killed me, took me for a broken one,

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homeland. the shores are rough. former boykiv village. on january 1, 1939 , 790 people lived in the village, 750 of them ukrainians. on june 12, 1946, the ukrainian population was forcibly deported to the ussr. creative: a vanished ukrainian village on the banks of the sian river. in 1939 , 960 residents lived in the village, 900 were ukrainians. in 1947, as part of the vistula operation, the residents were evicted and the village was burned down. apples an ancient ukrainian village in the mountains of the western biskids. as of the 38th year , 600 people lived in the village, of which 562 were ukrainians. some were deported to the ussr, some to northern poland. the village ceased to exist. in total, there are more than 800 villages and towns with a ukrainian population in the republic of poland. almost 700,000 ukrainians were deprived of their small homeland, forever.

congratulations, a special edition of the urban reconstruction and development program is on the air. i, oleksandr morshevka, will conduct this issue for you. we continue to speak objectively about reconstruction in various parts of our country so that everyone who needs it is aware of their rights and opportunities related to reconstruction initiatives. and we also want to improve the process of restoring buildings and infrastructure facilities destroyed by the russians. now in the focus of our attention. this region, even after liberation from the russian occupiers, continues to suffer from enemy shelling. and first, let's look at the material of my colleague artem lagutenko about reconstruction in trostyanka, sumy oblast. on the 23rd, there was a massive shelling of the hospital, when a tank drove onto a parallel street and directly hit our buildings. was anyone in the hospital at the time?

of course, there were all, all were those. and were sick and the staff was. anatoly anatoliyovych heads the city hospital of trostyanets. a man recalls the horrors of the occupation in 2022, one long month that lasted an eternity. the infectious department was even more damaged, the roof was demolished, the complete oxygen station was damaged, the buildings of the military corps were damaged, the maternity ward was hit, it burned out. the operating room was completely burned down, the equipment and the premises were destroyed, and the polyclinic was damaged a lot, the polyclinic was completely destroyed. the hospital accepts patients not only from trustianets, but also from nearby settlements. constant shelling did not prevent them from doing this even during the occupation. we gave birth to eight children in the basement, yes, nine children were born to us.