they are talking about the fact that there are already hundreds of countries supporting them, the essence of those plans is also, let 's stop shooting, stop the aggression and let's find a compromise through peaceful means, peaceful negotiations, the politicians understand that if only in ukraine the hot phase of the war somehow subsides, even the term it was not a truce, but a cooling of the war, it was the chinese who , in my opinion, started that everything should be done in order to cool down, since as soon as everything cools down here, it is clear that there will be a problem of elections in ukraine, and you said about the fact that i would really like to do it now the president and his office, realizing that it will be even more difficult, but political forces are preparing for it. we have many problems in this connection. the main problem is whether we realize that according to the structure of power that we have, because we already had an idea somewhere, there was a leak of information that the president's office sees the possibility of holding elections. both

presidential, parliamentary, and local at the same time. in our constitution, it is written a little differently, yes, well, but we understand, yes, that, well, some technical points can be adjusted there, not for the first time and not for the last time, yes, but we understand that we would like, so to speak, a large-scale process in order for the forces to be evenly dispersed, or smeared, so to speak, among active citizens in the regions and so on, in order to , so that everything, so to speak, happened properly, smoothly and with answers. as a result, i understand correctly, yes, yes, yes, people think about this, about this, but again, sociology shows that more and more ukrainians understand that the president and his office use powers that do not belong to them and are not allowed by the constitution, that they significantly are taking on more powers, and an increasing number of ukrainians understand this, but i have a question again, do ukrainians understand that if they don't, they won't make changes. to the rules of the game,

if we do not clearly limit the powers of the president of his office, then we have this, this continues, we will have the next president, the next ideas, because we are not talking about the parliament now, or the same one, this is how your inner feeling is, yes the next one, well , i think it’s the next one, because if there are, if there are, if it cools down or ends the hot phase in... the war and we will have to to be responsible for the results of this war, then simply international experience shows that even such figures as churchill, having actually won the war, could not win the elections after the war, the people, the citizens, place a very heavy burden on the government that waged this war, and the government must take responsibility for all miscalculations, for lost lives, for destruction, well, besides everything else, well, it's very difficult. we

will now find some arguments to extend the peacetime mandate of the current power structure because we remember that in peacetime president zelensky's rating went down rapidly, he simply played, used all his personal abilities, talent, skills to inspire and push support for ukraine. or the so-called emotional diplomacy, in the conditions of the economy, in the conditions of routine, routine work, president zelenskyi's team has no achievements whatsoever and no capabilities, so i think it will be very, very difficult to try to convince ukrainians that we need to continue this structure there zelensky fair on na the next presidential term, but not even in this matter. that others will come, if we

don't change the rules of the game, then i don't want to be cassandra, but i clearly understand that it is inevitable that new friends will appear, there are no balances, but here again i remember the conversation in kishenev and i have high hopes for this , that after all , the european union will very carefully monitor how the institutions will interact in ukraine, you mentioned the chinese-brazilian plan, yes, but there is also the russian federation, there is putin and... we understand what this plan is, yes, that means they are trying to take as many soldiers as they have, conditionally speaking, roughly, that is, they do not demonstrate their readiness for something, as you think, how to deal with them, because unfortunately a lot depends on them, on their activity, which depends if we are talking about the sino-brazilian plan of the so-called cooling down of russian aggression in the first place, very, very correctly you saw everything, we must pay attention to such violent activity.

now putin, there is azerbaijan, ah, mongolia, a challenge to the international criminal court, as well such stubborn statements that... uh, russia is not ready and will not start negotiations, because ukraine has seized a certain part of the kurdish region, it's so amazing to hear all this, but china and india and brazil, they are trying to do it such a platform, where they say all parties will be present, and where it will be possible to... er, you can listen to any options for the cooling of the war in ukraine, and the presence of russia is mandatory there, but ukraine also has to agree it is clear to me that these activities should be taken very seriously, because before our eyes

, another international block is growing very quickly, which already has a larger population than the european union together with america. bloc of democratic countries, because the population of the global south is much larger in terms of population, and even with economic factors they are trying to compete, that is, this appearance of an alternative system of government, alternative approaches of the alternative bloc should encourage europeans and americans to much more united actions and to a demonstration that which these countries are ready to defend the democratic ... order that prevails in the world after the second world war. here, russia will do everything possible to prevent this scenario from happening, to increase the bloc that turkey and azerbaijan want to join now, and this should

be taken seriously. thank you, mr. oleg, for this honest conversation on the air of the tv channel, i want to remind our viewers that oleg hrybachuk, former vice-prime minister for european integration, ex-', was working for them now. head of the secretariat of president yushchenko, co-founder of chesno movement. thank you for this extremely important conversation. thank you. well, the time of our program is over, stay tuned to espressu tv channel. my colleagues will inform you about all the most important events of this day. take care of yourself and your loved ones. do not ignore air warning signals. with god. and see you on the air. in september, there are 20% discounts on glycyset in psyllium bam and oskad pharmacies. in september, there are discounts on thermidol - 10% in pharmacies, plantain bam and oskad. september discounts on zzilor. 20% in

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the official pages of the sbu. friends, congratulations, you and i will talk as usual in this studio. about how culture helps fight for us, fight against disinformation, how russia uses culture, how, in particular, disinformation, and on an incredible scale, we will talk about the fact that again russian propaganda appeared at the a-class festival, that is, to one of the most prestigious film festivals in the world, the venice film festival, there they showed... two ukrainian films, which i hope you and i will soon see, but also

a work about the unfortunate russian military from a person who shot several films for rasha today slipped through , and now she made a tape, someone sent her to the occupied territories, and she spent seven, it seems, months with the russian military and made an incredibly sympathetic film about them, as reported by people who watched it. we are today let's also talk about our tapes, because we will talk with the director of one of these films, olga zorba, and we will also talk about russian propaganda, how to fight it in general, and whether we have enough information state policy to do this, but before that we will talk about a direct topic which... it concerns, which actually has a very big weight, now we have

this ministry of culture and information policy got a new head, got a new name, the department will now be called the ministry of culture and strategic of communications, it was headed by mykola tochytskyi, a diplomat with many years of experience, which caused quite a stir. different opinions of different people, both people's deputies and artists, but the opinions were divided roughly like this, some who did not understand this step said, what is the point of a diplomat here at all, if we are talking about culture, about information policy, about some communications, about countering disinformation, and here he is a diplomat, he was thrown, as iryna gerashchenko wrote, into a completely unfamiliar sphere for him, while others said no, for example, artists, for example, denys ivanov, a distributor and producer, he said that he cooperated with mr. mykola once and said that he has

an absolutely adequate vision of culture, understands its importance, and can quite fit into the ministry, which, let me remind you, is constantly criticized so or otherwise, here he can become a minister who, well, at least not so actively will be criticized, mr. mykola, another such trigger for ukrainian society, he is... a fellow member of andrii yaermak, the head of the president's office, and he has been his deputy since april, before that he was a deputy the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, and even before that, he was engaged in diplomatic activities in various countries, in belgium, in luxembourg, and he has two educations, one legal, actually, the institute of international relations, where he studied together with andrii yarmak, and also he previously graduated from the faculty of french-english philology, he should, should he be engaged in translations, he graduated from the shevchenko institute, so

you see, the new minister partially presented his vision, in particular, he says that he will pay special attention to the opposition misinformation, and i will tell you that there is an enormous amount of work, i don't know if one ministry can handle it, but with culture it really is. related, because the previous version of the ministry of culture, this is the ministry of culture and information policy, was enough, as for me, divided and not very shared among themselves. these two topics cooperated, more precisely, because culture is one thing, information policy is completely different, we can now mention some of the other ministers there, and here, for example, the previous minister of culture oleksandr tkachenko, his criticized a lot, after a lot of criticism, it was just that the critics were against him, he was finally fired, but he was more involved in information policy, that is, i would prefer

to call the department of his time the ministry of information policy and then culture, but in general... this ministry is quite there are many different conversations and skepticism, people even say that we do not need such a ministry, but people forget that there should be a state policy in the field of culture and the same countering of disinformation, this very often intersects actually with art, and because, as i have already said, higher russia uses culture very well, very skillfully, in order to er... spread its influences and we must somehow counteract, i will tell you that at the moment i do not see such opposition, or i see it as weak enough, nor did the ministry of culture deal with it effectively, and we had many bright actions of some kind, but almost all of them were private, and we also have a state cinema that does not have a vision for the development of our cinema at all,

no, no no politics. still no strategy and also worse as we speak about international film festivals, namely , russia exerts an influence on them, constantly pushing its propaganda films here and there, which are veiled under such liberality, under the idea that everyone should be sympathized with, and the state cinema is now not at all betting on these films, which can go on international film festivals, but where does cinema bet on commercial ukrainian cinema? film series, but listen, soon we, our filmmakers, will have nothing to travel to these film festivals with, and something will be opposed to russian propaganda films, because we have talked with you more than once about the fact that films are not just presented at the festival, these films are shown there, they are discussed by the audience,

film crews travel there, film crews arrive, they communicate with this audience, they give interviews, this a huge and very important media arena. which we need to use, well , judging by everything, at least the state cinema believes that this site is unimportant and you can score on it, well, we will see what actions the new minister of culture and strategic communications will take. well, now we are moving directly to the venice film festival, which is currently underway, this festival we can now see as the opening ceremony, the red carpet, and the festival, of course, the information about it is flying around the world media like hotcakes, because it is a festival that attracts attention , as usual attention is focused on the cannes film festival, on the berlinale, we usually like very much, well, how many of us

like to see the dresses in which people came to the red carpet, who even came there, eh? we choose some funny moments from these there all these ceremonies, or on the contrary, sensitive, sensual moments, for example, angelina geli talked to her fan, who is very sick, who can't get out of bed, but here he is, he appeared there and she knelt there to make it more comfortable to talk with him, and it was also spread by the world media, and it is certainly being discussed, i will discuss it all week. even a little more, people in social networks share their various impressions about the films they have watched, well, of course, it is important, it is important to consider that the visual component also takes place, and that any actions that, for example, our filmmakers want to do there, must be very carefully checked and preferably bright,

interesting, in order to once again get into the media, what does our cinema do? once and they did, i want to tell you about the films that were shown at the venice film festival, our ukrainian ones, first of all, this is the honeymoon, i am waiting for this film, because i honestly admit, i gave such small consultations to the actress of the main role, the matter is that it is about the newlyweds who spend their a honeymoon in the occupation, there is a story about... this couple who were stuck in the occupation, they refused to leave and now they are sitting locked in their apartment, they are knocking, i understand the russians. and you know, at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, we were very worried about how our filmmakers would touch on the subject of the occupation, the full-scale invasion, specifically in game films, and very

often talked about the fact that it was too early to shoot films that would directly touch on such complex topics. it seems to me, so far, and judging by the trailer, at least the authors approached the topic quite delicately, there is no provision for showing any russian... poetry, it is just a chamber story of a young couple who encountered a full-scale war in such circumstances, and it is more like, you know, chamber psychological the drama, it seems to me, consists of two characters, this is how they discuss their relationship, let's watch an excerpt, the queues are simply terrible, there is a queue everywhere, i waited for three hours and after me the gas ran out, guess what, we will give up here. there are terrace tanks, well

and the other tape that was shown at the venice film festival is ukrainian, it is called songs of the earth that burns slowly, the tape is a documentary, it was made by olga zhurba, and she... well, i read the reviews, of course i didn't see it either movie, now we can watch its trailer, and it, it is what people who watched it already call a diary of the first two years of the full-scale invasion, where we are shown a sufficiently large growth of different people, different emotions, different events, and i i would really like to watch this movie, already with trailer, it's clear that... visually it's very so interesting and vivid, and also, well, i'm just interested to watch our documentarians, who do a very good

job usually, let's look at the excerpt, on the neck of the corpse, the chains present, the cross, the half hearts, with the inscription i will always be near. well, we will talk with olga in just a few minutes, and now i will tell you what our filmmakers also report. about the treason of daria pesell, the producer and the producer of this tape in particular, she wrote that she went to see a film that had warnings,

it was called russians at war, it is said to be a documentary by a certain anastasia trofimova, who, as i said at the beginning of our program, shot tapes for rashituda, now she has shot, judging by everything, absolutely propaganda. the film, like many russian cinematographers, she now identifies herself as russian, that is, she positions herself everywhere as a russian-canadian director, and the producers also call their film french-canadian, not russian, we see these russian soldiers with whom the director spent seven months of her life, who let her there, again, we ourselves understand, and judging by what dasha described, the film evokes sympathy for the russian military, she also writes that the director

does not at all emphasize that russia started this war in 2014, it will start the war from the 22nd, and in general, i am very surprised how my country could do such a thing, because it has never happened, that is, again, there is no such thing. there is a reflection that russia has been constantly attacking various countries for many, many years, and this is no excuse strangeness, that is, aggression in ukraine, unfortunately, is not strange. and i want to quote daria basel, here she writes, i quote, she addresses, by the way, she wrote her post in english, she addresses foreigners, this is very important, because we need to communicate, and while we have a new minister getting used to a new position in... our communications are handled by private people, i quote: you will feel pity for the people who die in the film and for those who mourn their loved ones, and you should, if you're

a normal person, you... should feel regret, sadness and emotion, but it is also worth remembering that these people joined the army that was seconded to an independent country, many of them did it voluntarily, as we learn from the film. it is also worth mentioning bucha, irpin, meriuple, and those civilians who were killed there. remember the thousands of children who were illegally taken from ukraine to russia. while i am writing this, and you are reading, rockets are flying at ukrainian cities, simple russia is pressing the buttons. are their crimes any less significant just because they claim they don't know why they are participating in this war? the end of the quote, i will say that the so -called liberal russian media do not deal with these narratives, and constantly push the idea that ordinary russians are not to blame, it is only putin, it is only his entourage, russians do not want to fight, most of all to me i like this moment, the doshch channel, which was wiped out of the baltic countries,

because they could afford a lot there, but they show, for example, covering our kurdish operation, they first show these russians who say that putin should help, putin, where are you, they tell absolutely frankly, that their relatives are now defending donbas, that we are supporting the so -called svo, then the presenters are talking about the fact that ordinary russians do not want war, it's just... putin, well, that means they have absolutely nothing there does not come together in the head, even among people who do not directly work for russian propaganda, but it turns out that they still work for it. anastasia trofimova herself, now we can watch a short video, see what she looks like, she was at a press conference, she was asked, what about you don't think you're whitewashing criminals and humanizing them, she says the following, quote:

is considered a bit of a weird question: can we, can we or can't we humanize someone, are there lists of people we can humanize and those we can't. of course, we must humanize everyone. this is a huge tragedy for our region, first of all, and for the whole world. if we don't see each other as people, these black and white stereotypes about each other will lead to continued war. this will only increase the hatred. unfortunately, this is kind of the way to go politicians are going, but i don't... i think that this is the way that ordinary people should go, the end of the quote, that is, well, we see this again, it's not people, it's all politicians, it's absolutely clear to all of us that there are some omissions, messages , but unfortunately, as i understand it, not for all foreigners and not in all countries it is read, because it is simply perceived as protection of people's rights, we, unfortunately, see a lot of cases when european, western european countries

protect. .. directly of the russian military, and they also claim that they can to be victims of this regime. i want to finally talk to olga zorba, she is currently at the venice film festival with the director of the film songs of a slow burning earth. thank you for finding 10 minutes for us, i understand that you have a very busy schedule there, you are doing very important, important things right now. communication in particular, but let's talk about your tape first, because i didn't watch it, i only watched the trailer, which is still available, i read the first reviews, and the majority heard positive reviews, but tell me how you do you position the film yourself, how do you see it and how, in your opinion, does it differ from other documentaries by our ukrainian directors about

a full-scale invasion, what did you put into it? well, first of all, i ate through myself as a person, all the experiences that i also lived, and tried to capture and broadcast, transform into the language of cinema, and the changes that are taking place, which i observe in our society, are caused by the war, and the film itself is here investigates... let's say the first stage of these changes, because it seems to me that in the future, if only it begins, you know, such a new page in our society, we are getting used to war and sorry, i'm sorry, i'm just here from where, but about...