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let's summarize the informational morning in ukraine on the air of express news, khrystyna is working in the studio shipwreck the occupiers killed a 16-year-old girl in nikopol. rescuers retrieved her body from under the rubble of a house destroyed by an enemy shell. she died in the hospital - said the head of the dnipropetrovsk region, serhii lesak. in addition, three elderly people, a woman and two men were injured in the morning shelling of the city. the russian army fired almost 40 russian shells at nikopol, the city was destroyed, and private homes were damaged. two people were injured in kupyansk , kharkiv region, in the morning the enemy hit the city with fpv drone, reported the regional prosecutor's office. two men, aged 71 and 49, were injured and hospitalized. and at night, the russians launched airstrikes on kharkiv. in the kyiv district of the city, private houses, utility rooms, a garage and cars were damaged.
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there was a fire, the prosecutor's office of the region reported, due to shelling , the suburbs of taltiv district were partially de-energized, oblenergo added. and in the village of mala danylivka, at least six houses and power lines were destroyed by a bomb. there were no casualties. the occupiers struck in the morning and kherson, residential quarters of the ship district were attacked from the temporarily occupied left bank, reports said. mayor roman mrochko. windows were blown out, doors and roofs were damaged in the houses. it is also known about debris hitting farm buildings. there were no casualties as a result of the attack. and i always knew that i thought it was safer here and always hid here. sometimes, i will come here, a person said that if there was someone here, i would cut down everyone in the world. and oh, horror, of course,
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you have no wounded, no people, thank god, only chickens, yes, chickens we are already giving out 36 chickens to our neighbors, three people died, and five more were injured due to the shelling of cherkasy in donetsk region, the occupiers hit the village with a tornado. 10 private houses and a car were damaged, the regional police reported. in general, during the day, russian vandals damaged more than fifty residential buildings, businesses, farm buildings and critical infrastructure in the region. in particular, in kostiantynivka, a production workshop was destroyed as a result of shelling. the enemy dropped an aerial bomb on ilinivka, damaging eight privates houses mass shelling of chernihiv oblast.
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carried out by the occupiers, 160 hits were recorded on the border territories of the region per day, - announced the head of the military administration of the region, vyacheslav chauus. in the villages of the novgorod-siversk community , a residential building and an outbuilding were damaged, and a private home in the semeniv district was destroyed. due to shelling, the city of semenivka was partially without electricity. restoration work is ongoing. corrected enemies. around kyiv and committed arson. the sbu detained a man from kharkiv who was an agent in the capital of russian intelligence. the spy rented an apartment in the capital with a view of the local tes. he set up an observation post there and transmitted video to the occupiers online. he also rented an apartment in the kyiv region to record the consequences of russian attacks and monitor our air defense. in addition, in kharkiv, a russian agent set fire to a relay cabinet on the railway. he
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faces life imprisonment, a local resident blew himself up and three other people by throwing a grenade near a supermarket in lubny, poltava region. the attacker died, the others were injured, reported in the regional police. according to the investigation, a 53-year-old man threw an explosive device at passers-by the night before and ran away. later, law enforcement officers found his body nearby. he probably died from an injury caused by the detonation. the other victims are alive, but they are in intensive care. a fatal road accident in the lviv region, around three o'clock in the morning on the highway. kyivchop bus collided with a truck that was standing on the carriageway. the 55-year-old driver died on the spot, and nine passengers were taken to the hospital with injuries ranging from 25 to 43 years old, they residents of kyiv, chernihiv, zakarpattia and
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ternopil regions, - reported the police of the region. law enforcement officers are establishing the circumstances of the accident. the search center has disappeared. missing soldiers and civilians were discovered in kirovohrad oblast, what assistance is provided, our journalists will tell. in kropyvnytskyi, a missing persons search center was created under the investigative department of the national police. this is where information is collected and analyzed for further investigation. if necessary, dna tests are taken. good day yes, these investigators of the center disappeared without a trace without special circumstances. 80% of cases - experts say. regarding the disappearance of military personnel, i say, we take samples from relatives, put them in the dna database, our colleagues who are in other areas, if they receive the body of an unidentified serviceman who cannot be identified, they also take samples and also put them in the dna database for that , so that a certain
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docking takes place, after this docking we appoint a comparative examination accordingly, or we, or our colleagues, are also engaged in searching for people in the temporarily occupied territories. quite often connected. we find through the internet, we find, people are alive and healthy, they confirm that we are alive and well, there is no communication and so on, we pass this information on, there are such cases, in relation to the military, there are many cases when a person who is taken into account, as without disappeared, is actually in captivity. since the beginning of the full-scale war, the investigators of the kirovohrad region have searched for about 80 soldiers alive and two dozen civilians. this work was carried out before, comment the field. a separate cell was created to improve work efficiency. to avoid becoming a victim fraudsters, experts urge not to post photos of missing persons and personal information on social networks, instead they ask to contact the police. the dna test for missing family members is free of charge. there was a case when
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a person applied, namely the wife of a missing soldier who fought in toshkivka. she repeatedly carried out orientation on the internet, she was contacted. persons asked for money, she also provided them with this money, they informed her that her husband was in captivity, but after a year and a half it was established in the process repatriation, that the remains of the specified soldier were transferred, we have identified him by dna now. currently, law enforcement officers of the kirovohrad region are investigating the disappearance under special circumstances of another half a thousand people from kropyvnytskyi for the espresso tv channel. i conclude with this. as i bid you farewell until tomorrow, stay with us.
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congratulations, friends, the politclub program is on the air on the espresso tv channel. vitaly portnikov is with you. our conversation today will be devoted to those new trends that. manifested in the political life of europe in recent years, the reason became obvious the victory of far-right forces in the regional elections in the federal republic of germany, just now the leaders of the alternative for germany party went to their victorious press conference, they demand new elections in this country, they believe that in these elections they will be able to get new chances and influence the formation of the new german government, but of course this is a trend. not only germany, france, italy, hungary are becoming
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real strongholds of far-right political forces. in the united states, many are preparing for the victory of donald trump, who has become identifying with the transformation of the country's once respectable conservative republican party into the vanguard of far-right currents in north america and the world in general. what is happening, how will it be reflected on the russian-ukrainian war, on ukraine's chances to become part of the civilized world after... we are talking about it today with the guests of our studio, here is historian, people's deputy and former head of the institute of national remembrance volodymyr v' yatrovych, congratulations mr. volodymyr, good evening, and the political scientist of the national platform oleg sahakyan, i congratulate mr. oleg, we will also invite guests from different countries of the european continent, journalist oleksandr golubov is currently in contact with us, he is in germany, we welcome you, mr. oleksandr, kind. so, let's start with the most relevant plot, almost half of the voters in
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the federal states, saxony and thuringia voted for two parties that set the conditions, i would say, for future coalitions and the development of the political process in germany, the lack of any aid to ukraine, this in short, but it is clear that these two parties , far-right and far-left, are also eroding the traditional ones. i would say, the views of the germans can affect how germany and the european union will develop in the future, and here a good question arises, whether ukraine will find a place in the european union, where the far-right will play such a role and wish for good relations with moscow. mr. volodymyr, look, the problem of ukraine is not only the problems of the ultra-right, but also the problems of the ultra-left, the problem of ukraine is precisely this further radicalization of politics, and vice versa putin precisely in the further radicalization of politics in europe. those who want to present putin as the far-right or
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the main sponsor of the far-left are wrong, in fact he does not support either the far-right or the far-left, he supports confrontation, he supports confrontation, and it is obvious that the more chances are gained, the more support these ultra-powers gain, the it's better for putin because it's really gradually undermining this liberal, centrist order, political agenda that's been around for a long time. worked in europe and on which ukraine is obviously oriented, as the one who can be the guarantor of its support, therefore the situation is really dangerous, therefore , unfortunately, it seems to me that you and i are now witnesses of a certain unpreparedness of these precisely centrist politicians for such a scenario, when putin will simply support the ultrapowers on both sides just to destabilize the situation, and russia has done it and is doing it all the time, and there have been. earlier in the south of europe, what was already
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manifested in central and northern europe was demonstrated, we remember greece, chrysiavgi, golden dawn and kukue, the communist party of greece, then, they did not think much about russia, we need golden dawn at least, but how can i say, in their rhetoric they relied quite seriously on the people from the soviet union, the so -called panthian greeks, and in principle they very seriously updated their sympathy for putin. and it is important to understand that it is not necessary for putin that they love putin, it is necessary for putin that they are radical enough to destroy this system, but i think here there are actually several challenges for ukraine: the first is the image of the europe we are going to, we are integrating into the europe in our imagination, which hung around for 20 years in the picture, to the europe of fukuyama, when he was beautiful and young, the end of history absolutely, liberal , which is all, and we wanted to be friends with russia. which was no longer there either, which was half a step even closer than ukraine in all integration processes, because there was the capital
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by inertia, there were also territories that belonged to the zone of influence of moscow, in music in we did not appear on the stock exchange in ukraine precisely because of this and many other things, but first of all we have to rethink what europe is for us and what is today's europe, why, because the second challenge is this wave of law and the left is radical, it does not speak of the growth of the right or the left. moods, because they are populists under the banner of right and left ideas. in fact, it is about the crisis of liberal europe and about the search for another project, which should be carried out now by a responsible part of the european elites, and they are... lagging behind this, because they also believed in the end of history and in the fact that everything will be fine and good in the future, and it is important for ukraine to also take part in the process of co-inventing a new europe, because the old europe was about what, why, what is the value of europe now for the average european, at the beginning it was coal, steel, metal union, after the second world war, trade, not war, and then we saw
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integration, borders that fell, then science, culture, then currency. and in the end, the euro launched a common one and then it's just simple growing up and now the average european does not understand what the naval alliance is about, a whole generation was born in conditions where all this is, and for them it is a given, they do not know what it is like to get a visa to go to a neighboring country, because they they simply do not have such experience and do not think about it, i am talking to my peers from europe, i say, you understand that if you leave, you will have to issue a visa to go to germany, for example, italians do not issue a visa there, even though they have left . oh no, britain is a slightly different story in general, but it is meant that they were born in a situation where europe has no borders, and they do not even imagine what is behind these ideas, and accordingly , the search for ideas is now, so the second challenge for us is to articulate what ukraine can do to have added value for that europe, and the process of european integration for us, and in particular the visa-free regime, which had these consequences, is an opportunity to be
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on a representative chair now in the process of forming the europe that we will go to, we will not go to... . in this europe of the left and the right, because it is a foam, which is something will give birth, or europe will degrade, there will be nowhere to go, the european union will be buried or evolve, and the third important point is the security risks now, we need to have our own agenda for populists in europe and left and right, why should ukraine be kept off the agenda brussels, well , for example, italy melunia, in russia they opened champagne when it won because the right came to italy and now everything will heal. the next day, literally, support for ukraine , on the contrary, gained new momentum, this is one of experiences peace in poland with all its peculiarities, but nevertheless, it was ukraine that fell between them and orban, and before that they were best friends and took an anti-brussels position. we need to study this experience and form why ukraine, and we can be defenders for them,
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including the traditional agenda. let's look at ukraine, at our spectrum, we are not radical, we are not right in the classical sense, but nevertheless, if we are already here with a traditional agenda, we will not win over putin, if we are already defending the agenda, then putin will give us points ahead, not everyone among the right-wing forces is pro-russian, for them putin is a scarecrow, but a scarecrow, anti-brussels, if the ukrainian side has elements of the agenda that are not similar to the brussels one, let's say, with the left and left-liberal agenda , then it is quite profitable. that part of them we can win their sympathy, we are now talking first of all about the voters and the populist trend in europe, we also need to have our own leaders who will be able to communicate with these environments, because at the moment it looks like someone is for brussels, someone is for ukraine, someone is against brussels, someone is against ukraine, someone is for russia, and this trap we fell into because we are the last romantics of europe, and we believe in the europe that already
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many europeans do not believe, as such, that is why we are in these. and the adhesions are glued very strongly with the euro-optimistic agenda within europe. mr. oleksandr, we can exaggerate, by the way, the importance of this whole far-right wave, at least for germany. we see several federal states there, well, now it is possible there will be such success for the far-right in brandenburg, but by and large these are only two federal states, maybe this just shows another trend, that where there was socialism, people there are ready to accept any radical such populist views, and here germany is also . here and ukraine, well , everywhere where populism reigns, there was once communism, but in west germany it was not, and therefore, perhaps, germany will not fall ill with populism in the same way as the post-socialist territories, including the former german democratic republic, fell ill there. i i think both theses are equally valid here, on the one hand, it's absolutely
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true that at the federal level what happened... it doesn't look so catastrophic if we look, let's say, compared to if we look solely at the results in these states, saxony and other eastern states, they are basically traditionally, traditionally, we are talking in terms of the last decade, tend to vote for radical parties, while i am not only an alternative for germany, before the emergence of sarah wagen knecht's block, they are very. .. very actively voted for the left a party that in fact in the federal republic became, well , half the legal successor of the east german socialist party, therefore... half of it was west german leftists, super radicals, and half of it was actually such people who tried to find a new career in
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german politics from among the political elites of eastern east germany, by the way, sarah wagenknecht, who received huge support from a huge a compared to other parties and compared to the fact that she actually founded her bloc. literally on the eve of the elections to the european parliament this year, here she is a typical representative of such an east german elite, a stalinist, very, very charismatic at the same time, unfortunately for us , a person who - in fact, is now trying to play a role in all-german politics, but wins first of all in the east, that is, where people who are mentally close live. for her, probably, for whom she reached out in the first place, now we see ms. saura wagengneg on the screen, but if we speak, at the same time we, i would
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still not minimize the importance of what happened, what happened in these elections, ah, to the locals, to the lantags, and that took place just recently in the elections to the european parliament, we see almost the same voting results, indeed, and according to... the horseshoe principle, the right and left radicals are the most recruited, in which it is very difficult to find a difference in their views in some places, because, despite to the same saara wagenk herself, she's supposedly left-wing, but she's now pushing quite anti-immigrant rhetoric, which for obvious reasons, again, is popular with the east german population, and thus scores points, and so really. many who does not rule out that in the end, after long stories about the fact that the ultra-right and the ultra-left will never be together in the same
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coalition, they will still merge, so to speak, in the ecstasy of radical politics, and perhaps form a ruling coalition in one of the countries, or at least they will very often situationally vote for each other's bills when they match theirs. sometimes, at least , the same sara wagen knecht spoke about this almost openly before and on the eve and even after the elections, when she said that they are right, but if they will say to the sun that the sun is the sun, then we will not argue with it, in this way, actually announcing that this is how we will probably cooperate sometimes that's why it's actually a very disturbing story, why, because we see that, first of all... absolutely radical parties, well, with absolutely wild podecodes, ideas, are gaining huge support, for ukrainians, this is primarily alarming because it is
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primarily indeed, as mr. vitaly said, how mr. vitaly said, these are anti-ukrainian parties, within the bounds of what is supposed to be decent, that is, everyone says that war is bad and so on and so forth, but after this remark they immediately begin to repeat putin's narratives and that we should be friends with russia and that it is big and no way without her. and in general, nato will be able to do this. so, that's the first worrying trend, secondly, we see a very clear, as again, uh, it was pointed out, a very clear split between east and west germany. if you look at the map of electoral preferences after the elections to the european parliament, it is very clearly visible where the border between the eastern and western germany, and this is independent regardless of the individual polling stations of the stations, so literally, if the westernmost
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polling station of east germany voted for the alternative for germany, the easternmost station of west germany voted for the christian democrats, this border is absolutely geographical, where it began. east germany, that's where it starts, that's where the commitment to radical parties starts, at least much larger than in the west. well, in our country, by the way, there has always been such an electoral border, long decades between that part of ukraine that was part of the russian empire, that part of ukraine, which is part of russia, in ukraine, it is also in poland, it is also in poland, that is, sub-austrian poland sub-russian poland, and this is really absolutely typical for this region, and here, when we talk about these... populist sentiments of the far right, the far left, if specifically in germany, or in eastern europe, in general, really, it's a communist bloc, really, it's an example of the fact that history is still with us, history
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is still not... overcome, the consequences of this communist totalitarian past have not been completely overcome, and they are manifested, even deeper consequences, you see, really even from the time of the russian, austro-hungarian empire, so obviously you have to understand , that history often explains the present and to understand the processes of the present, it is sometimes necessary to delve into history, but at the same time, i absolutely agree with oleg that the problem also lies in the fact that liberal politicians, classically liberal politicians, left centrists, right centrists unfortunately, it seems that they have somehow exhausted their agenda, that is, they really are not ready and do not want to think about what new things to offer, all that they offered, that they fought hard for, that gave them some impetus, energy for decades after the second world war, it's mission complete, it's already accomplished, it's really something that happened by itself, it's already for many europeans, they're in their
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water, they're fish in that water, they're not ... even its needs are capable of it as long as this while this water exists, well, how is it in for great britain, as it is, it turns out that we can't do that and we can't do that, that is , that's why, that's really the challenge before the europeans, before those centrist, let's say europeans, before this classic maybe liberalism, is to prepare some new agenda, and it seems to me that the fact that putin is now taking advantage of the absence of this agenda should, on the contrary, add impetus, perhaps this is one of the topics just for this. renewed liberal agenda, but we are talking about some kind of anti -imperial agenda, which is becoming again relevant, given the russian threat, and in this matter, again, i would rather agree with oleg that ukraine can still refresh this seemingly outdated, perhaps, liberal agenda, because i am sure that this story is still not finished, that is, you can still continue, but the main thing is to set yourself the task that
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the end of the story, in fact, is no end. it is not that we, we, we have to continue this story, and ee we, for us, again, for the ukrainians, considering that this is a matter of survival for us, maybe it should add some additional energy, effort, why should we not be afraid of some, excuse me, even missionalism in order to remind europe of these classical, classical liberalism, if you can say so, to be honest, i am still very concerned about this issue of political conformity, that's why that when at one time in... in austria, the representatives of the austrian freedom party and the organization haider were invited to the government for the first time, it was a general european scandal, a radical cannot be a representative of a country that is part of the european union, now there is nothing like that, of course there is a party that no one wants to see in the government, here is an alternative for germany, but it is actually the only, the only force, this is true for now , what are they talking about, no, we will not pass it, it is impossible, but here are all the other far-right parties in europe, please, from portugal to... er
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, this same germany, if we talk about the sar vhneh alliance, no one sees any problems in alliances with them, and by the way, this applies not only to alliances , it refers, if you like, to the legitimization of influences, but recently we saw how president zelensky met at one of the international conferences with geert wilders, this is a really authoritative figure, a person who won the parliamentary elections in the netherlands, this is a person who influences the actions of the government in the netherlands, there are good results in the elections to the european parliament, well , not anymore marginal, but this is a person who was known for his anti-ukrainian and pro-russian positions, now, as if not, now geert wilders at least does not say this, but when the president of ukraine meets with him, does it not legitimize such politicians? i think legitimizing, but i think that there is another problem here, our ukrainian problem, which is pan-european, pan-world, well, let's be frank, but president zelensky
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is also a representative of the populist camp. that's why he easily finds a common language with people regardless, well, it's hard not to call the populists right , it's hard to call him right, it's hard to call him right or left, but he is, you know, a pure populist, what kind of populism is this country, that is , we have a special ukrainian populism that is devoid of any additional ideological colors and burdens so nevertheless it is gives him the opportunity to find a common language with these populists and in fact it is a risk for ukraine because you are talking about this agenda . for the populist forces, this is also a form of conformism, collaborationism, as the political one said, if you were to be tough, if you were not in the studio, but if you are in the studio, then conformism, okay, and i think that this populist agenda is not so much about conformism, and ukrainian, let's say, in relation to european, and you know, i 'll just translate it to a personal story, again from...
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