too much spread, let's not let the occupier take a step further and accelerate the victory together, glory to ukraine, word to the heroes, the tv channel's information day continues, mykhailo tsimbalyuk, people's deputy of ukraine, deputy chairman of the commission dedicated to our fortifications, is live in our studio. glory to ukraine, sir. mykhailo, glory to the heroes, i wish everyone health. well, emotions have calmed down a little when we talk about a big change in our government and in the administration of the president. well, the key story as far as we are concerned we understand that andrii yarmak in terms of influence and direct communication between the president's administration and the cabinet of ministers has somehow increased, although, as far as we understand, she was almost absent, yes, because, well, the parliamentary majority. in its essence, it is the servant

of the people party and the servant of the people faction, but if we talk, for example, about new trends, what should we expect from the government, i went there as if for a promotion, well, even for the vice prime minister, well , could it be with a promotion, well, in any case, iryna veryschuk perceives it as promotion, went to the position of deputy head of the president's office, and not only her, that is, powerful rotations, andriy sebiga from the president's office, landed in the ministry of foreign affairs as a deputy, now heads the ministry of foreign affairs, we understand that communication between the president and separately by the appointed ministers will be closer, more active, and at the same time we have a certain reinforcement from the cabinet of the office of the president itself, what should we expect, mr. mykhailo, well, i would actually say that during martial law, it cannot be otherwise maybe when there is contact between ministers, instant decision-making, contact with... the full

commander, his team, that is, nothing unusual is happening here, speaking objectively, compared to the first government, back then, of the previous prime minister, already last name, we almost don't remember it, but now, in my opinion, more professional people have headed the ministry, if we recall that andriy sebig, about whom you spoke, then in fact he is a staff diplomat. who went through all stages of diplomatic work, both in the ministry of foreign affairs and heading the embassy in turkey, the consulate general in poland, by the way, he speaks several languages, including polish, poland, by the way, reacted positively to his appointment, and this, in my opinion, is a professional strengthening, the same tochytskyi, who also, .. and a diplomat and worked

in the president's office under many managers, that is, a person who knows about public administration, i think he will be able to improve management. about our compatriot, iryna vereshchuk, well, she headed the headquarters for the coordination of internally displaced persons, she also coordinated the headquarters that takes care of evacuation of people. from the frontline areas, and speaking objectively, she is one of the many ministers who worked in the first days of the war, but it was easier to call her, and indeed in the first days when we evacuated the children from ohmadit, she was on connection, i personally, other people's deputies contacted her, regardless of who from which faction, that is.

she also has experience, and it seems to me that she will now strengthen the humanitarian block of the president's office, because before that it was mrs. sokolovska, who for a short period was the minister of affairs, the minister of social policy for the protection of citizens, she was there for a short time, and now she was in charge of that direction, the president fired her and ms. vereshchuk will be a coordinator. to the first deputy head of the committee on social policy for the protection of veterans' rights, because the minister from the ministry of veterans affairs of ukraine was appointed by a person who was the deputy minister of defense, nataliya kalmykova, forgive her, kalmykova, and actually there were always quite positive reviews about her , how do you plan the committee, i mean the department debugging this work or? do you think that during her

term this cooperation will be more fruitful, and it will be possible to implement more projects and more of such, you know, things that will help veterans to integrate. actually in our society. yes, nataliya kalmykova, she came from the private sector, she was also involved in volunteering before, she is a well-known person in this environment, and among the military. and when she became the deputy, deputy minister of defense, it was very convenient for us to communicate with her. she always responded to any problems that bothered us came to the committee, we security and defense and the committee on social policy affairs for the protection of veterans' rights and... when it was recommended, we accepted it, although we did not vote, it was the political position of the faction of the motherland, but i wished her success, we are in contact with her, i am sure that with her it will be easier to build a veterans' policy, which is very

difficult to form in ukraine for objective reasons, because we are the largest state in the world and provide the largest number of veterans, i.e. how many there are no combat veterans in any country. the world, because of that it is a complicated procedure, and i told her that this position should have been, in my opinion, whether shmygal listens or not, it should have been the position of the deputy prime minister, because the ministry of veterans affairs itself has to communicate with the ministry of finance, because there , the allocation of funds is one thing at the level of colleagues, and the second, when certain powers, the ministry of social policy regarding payments and rehabilitation, prosthetics, with the ministry of economy, there are employment centers and precisely grants for allocation for the introduction of business of veterans, that is, this is a large ministry of health care, where veterans are treated, and i would like to wish her success, if she succeeds, eh,

i want to believe, but veterans' policy depends on the activities of the entire government and the position of the prime minister, because the president gives instructions to provide housing for veterans and family members of... the dead, and the government only in july distributes 5.5 billion for the purchase, well, about four thousand families will receive housing, and where the rest are more than 50 thousand on the waiting list, that is, there is a problem and we wanted would, that mrs. natalie this it was successful, ms. mykhailo, look, that is , as far as we understand, there have been major tectonic changes, yes, when we talk about the work of the government, about the assessment. and accordingly, it is possible to replace, if not the entire government, then the main part of it. prime minister denys shmyhal, in this way we understand that the storm has passed, so to speak, a large personnel rotation, and he remains in office, will there be any consultations in

the verkhovna rada regarding the general assessment of the government's performance by individual segments, and in general, when we talk, for example, personally about the prime minister. will everything be in approximately the same format in which it goes and went until today, well, you know, it is difficult to discuss the role and give an assessment of the prime minister when almost half of the government is replaced, and this , by the way, is also such a rhetorical question, why resign , and not in connection with the written application for dismissal, because the resignation, so to speak, is either not agreeing with someone's position, or some other reason. but these are already technical points, in general we have not heard an explanation why this or that minister is fired, if we had heard an explanation, we would understood, but where is the role of the prime minister, because the government is a collegial body, where decisions are made collegially by voting, which is headed and

announced by the prime minister, and the prime minister has all the powers to delve into the essence of the activities of each ministry, although it is definitely not easy . i think that this is only... the first step, that the changes will continue and maybe they will logically replace the prime minister, but once again i emphasize, this is my hypothetical guess through some analytical information, but this is a matter of the monomajority and that power, which today is in ukraine, once again i emphasize that there cannot be an assessment for several reasons, firstly, the government in our country works without a program, secondly, we have martial law, and according to the law on martial law, the cabinet of ministers cannot be dismissed in full, therefore it can only be partial, maybe this is the move of the ministers first, and

everything ends with the replacement of the prime minister, let's wait, we'll see, look, well, if we couldn't talk like that, we can't not affect this case, the first day of voting is like when they started writing. some ministers are there to draw up reports on the dismissal, well, they started, voting began in the verkhovna rada, and in the evening of that historic day, part representatives of the former opzh did not appear for the plenary vote, which, so to speak , called into question the productivity of the next working day, and according to rumors , they went to visit mr. surkis's family, i would like to ask you, in general, there is some kind of vision or feeling that , that the logic of what is called the majority of the parliament can change somewhat, well, i don't think that this is the main reason for the reasons of inadequacies. number of votes, it seems to me that a monomajority thus demonstrated, first of all

, to the government that they must be reckoned with, because the government officials who wrote the resignation letter did not appear, they ignored it, and this is a shameful fact, that is, it was disrespectful, it was disrespectful not only to the parliament, it was disrespectful to everything of the ukrainian people, because the rostrum of the verkhovna rada gives them the opportunity to report on what they have done, but... for the sake of justice , it should be said that molyuska - the ex-minister of justice has already arrived, kamyshyn, already the ex-minister of strategic industry, has passed, and in in principle, on the first day they reported, then after the meeting of the faction of the evening servant of the people, on the next day, i believe that this is a victory for parliamentarism, all those who wrote a statement of resignation appeared, except for the minister of foreign affairs. who in this way showed disrespect to the authorities, to the monomajority

that voted for him, and not only the monomajority voted there, but also to the ukrainian people and to all the diplomats, because it seemed to me that he should come and say what they have achieved , and then put up a post where he is there by the pond fishing or there were some other insults, including one of the statements regarding ukrainian-polish relations, that is, you have to think in such a position to make statements, and it is under him that we have almost a quarter of the vacancies of ambassadors, that is, he did not manage to build a normal, in my opinion foreign policy, which i am sure will continue, but to be corrected and developed by andrii. sebig, who has experience, who has already held a very serious meeting of ambassadors and has already made certain proposals

for rotation, i think that we are already the closest sometimes we will feel positive changes in the direction of foreign policy. mr. mykhailo, you mentioned that the parliament itself still showed that it should be reckoned with, but in fact, if we remember the events of the evening of september 4, we will remember that there was... such a, you know, factionalism servant of the people, and zelensky himself came there, he asked to vote on the next day, when this day, which we were talking about, when , as it were, opzzh went to surkis's birthday and could not vote on personnel issues, then zelensky personally asked for the next day, the deputies will do it, the deputies are the servants of the people, don't you think that zelensky's actual appearance at this, at this, at this event, at these... at this meeting , influenced the decision? well, first of all, this is unofficial information, it is only the reports

of some of the people's deputies that such a meeting took place, if it really did take place, then there is nothing strange here, and it is very important, and it is positive that the president, as his supreme commander, in such a difficult period of martial law and international activity, found time to meet with his faction, and those who today they are servants of the people, even those who allegedly left, we should not forget that all of them... passed under the slogan of president zelenskyi, it was he who brought them into the parliament, and they should be certain accountable monomajorities, and not play their own game game, and whoever wants to play his game, he should have a mandate, or go to fight or go to politics, and that is unfair, if there was such a meeting, i emphasize once again, then it is positive, because the ministers came, which demonstrated that they still... remember who elected and appointed them, and with on the other hand, the parliamentarians had the opportunity

to ask them questions and hear at least some answers, although the minister's report is two minutes long, what can be said at this time, but the fact itself, the fact that they appeared is positive, mr. mykhailo, well, i have a question for you as not just to a people's deputy, but as a member of the temporary special commission on fortification and attention, the use of state funds for the purchase of the same drones. this is how we understand that the story is extremely difficult, we understand how much is under the knife other information, but generally about certain developments of your commission. received a shadow chairman of the commission, so accordingly there were several scandals, they already came out on some so-called big fat fish, which could not illegally consume some or other of our funds on the ground, and in general, which regions in your opinion have not been finalized? well , speaking in general, tsk has indeed resumed

its work, and there is a new chairman, sir. oleksandr kumov is a young, responsible person with a certain amount of experience, both in law enforcement and research, he himself a native of kharkiv and knows the problems that exist in the territory of kharkiv region, most of the meetings, as you rightly said, are held in secret, the materials are secret, but we managed to communicate with the heads of the territorial military administrations that are responsible for construction. we managed to ratify it with the leadership of the special units that purchase drones, analyze, in general, what can be said, the commission is special, in order to go to, as you said, the fat fish, it is necessary that its status be temporary investigative commission, now, by the way, some of the people's deputies are initiating a name change, there are

completely different powers, but the law enforcement officers were reporting. we had last week, there are already certain developments in them, but for something radically serious, there is no such thing yet, because there are no real announcements, suspicions, only then can we say that there is some positive result. i'd like to say again, as far as drones are concerned, the information that we have is two years ago, we've made, well , brilliant in scale, a huge step, a leap forward in... because today the state supports those who can manufacture, assemble, bring drones, we really, in a few years we will become the number one country in terms of the production of combat, reconnaissance and other drones in the world, this is positive, because

what is produced by our domestic manufacturers, military - this is literally in combat conditions. they are testing, testing, this is already putting consumables today. if we talk about russia, ukraine, the armed forces of ukraine and their troops there, then in principle, in terms of quality and according to some indicators, we have more powerful drones, which today they are marine, and this is a unique production in the world, most of them are still ukrainian, tsk is also considering this, the only thing is that we have already discovered the facts when the difference is striking. the sum of the cost of drones, but there are specifics there, night, day, with optics, that is, it is not an order of 17 eggs there, yes, well, there is one price in the bazaar, here it suddenly appears, that the contract was not quite for the tymirostniks, we we are checking from 2022, in the period when drones, it was some kind of

know-how and a miracle of technology that was brought true, false in the world, and today the cost of one drone could be worth the same amount, when the demand of the military started, the price immediately jumped several times, and why at that time it was purchased at such prices, it is very difficult to objectively check, but we sent it to the accounting chamber , we sent a request to other law enforcement agencies, research institutes, there are also some nuances that will need to be corrected in our legislative base, for example, we have one research institute of expertise that gives permission to start that drone and determines its value, and when the law enforcement officers have initiated criminal cases, they send it to them again, they are forced to send it for an examination, of course, that they themselves will not give the difference against themselves, i think

that we at the legislative level will still consider that it is necessary to introduce changes and these research institutes that carry out examinations should be independent, state-owned, under the control of the cabinet of ministers only, and not, for example, to this or that ministry, and today there are several of them, and each has its own research and forensic expert center. sir mykhailo, about fortifications, i would like us to focus our attention on what is currently happening in the pokrovsky area, last week i had the opportunity to ask a deputy of the regional council of dnipropetrovsk region, how dnipropetrovsk region is preparing for what is likely to happen. a negative scenario that could happen, for example, in the pokrovsky direction, and the dnipropetrovsk region is not far away, and she says so, well, to be honest, she is not ready to tell you whether they are doing something specific. they say that they are doing something, but we understand that the actual tsk, which you are in, most likely understand, we are not asking you to release any secret information there, because we understand that it

should not be said, but at least, is the state really allocating money now to build some fortifications there and try to prevent some negative scenario that could happen, in fact, if the russians are going to advance there further, today the state allocates centrally for this. funds, but we must remember that since the 22nd year, when the state could not allocate centrally, fortifications were built at the expense of territorial communities, yes, and to everyone who could help, and they are not on the register, they have different prices, etc., today, since the 23rd year, the state has been centrally allocating funds, the first line of fortification everyone should remember, especially those sofa experts who today tell us that everything is wrong, everything that is in the first line... fications are always built by the military, the military, who have maps of the territory, and they are geographical maps, they build under, that is, under their order, or is it

a platoon the reference point, whether it is a company reference point, how it should be placed at the height, in nezina, exits, entrances, they build everything, the second and third lines are built by civilian administrations, civilians build for that, looking for customers, but we have already developed an algorithm. that everything is ordered by the military, under the supervision of the military , the second or third line is built, and then the military takes it into operation by creating engineering troops there, which were destroyed by the previous military leadership, for some reason, because of that, this is the next stage, and we have to do to the state, so that it was an algorithm that buildings were built on ours, thank god, there are unoccupied territories, but the military has to serve them, because if there is no master there, they will destroy themselves, move away, steal, etc. now it's difficult to talk about the direction you 're talking about, but the military

defends our territory with their heroism, including conducting them, because the first line has already become the third, you understand, and it's difficult. as far as i know, it is being prepared, it is being prepared very actively, but here it is important that there is a place. residents were understanding about this, because you can imagine to myself, that today is a peaceful peaceful area, when they start building fortifications there, it has a peculiar effect on the local population, because of this, the military chooses these fortifications depending on the operational situation, as far as i can answer the question, it is so, and the rest is a matter for the military, where , in what number and from which side they possibly know whether the state is really now. allocates money for this, because, unfortunately, we had a negative experience with the kharkiv region, and we would not like it to be repeated, that is why we are actually asking this, i would like to clarify, information began to appear about

the number of so-called deserters, people who left their military units, they are now being actively searched for, well, we understand that anonymous information from one or another information source does not always correspond to reality, we understand that in our there is a military service of law and order, the ministry of internal affairs is actively working. from the group in conjunction with tsc and catch out, what additional steps might be worth taking to reduce the number of those people who leave the place of service? well, there are two kinds of such offenses, this is when he voluntarily left the military unit, and the other, when he committed desertion and is evading such, thank god. there is no mass problem, but there are such cases. we in the verkhovna rada went to a meeting and simplified the legislation on voluntary

leaving a military unit or desertion, if the first was committed once, and secondly, a serviceman or servicemen repented and wanted to continue his service, then with the consent of the commander of that unit or another, which takes... this serviceman into service again, is canceled, criminal liability, because before it was a crime, and a real measure of punishment, that is, we gave a chance, because in fact, when in the first months and even in the first year, when we mobilized and did not conduct training in military training units, then it is for every person stress, and not all this stress, especially the first participation in a combat encounter, is psychological. a person reacts in different ways and many people came home, by the way, i had several appeals from lviv residents who said: they arrived, stayed for 3-4 days, fell asleep, then

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details. on the official pages of the sbu. it's 5 p.m. in ukraine and to your attention is a news release on the espressu tv channel. in the studio of iryna koval, we start with the situation in sumy. there sounded twice. explosions, according to the correspondents of the public. as of now , it is known that the russians released cabs in populated areas of the sumy district. according to preliminary information, people were injured. traffic across the psel river between the villages of bytitsa and velyka chernychyna was temporarily closed in the sumy community, oleksiy drozdenko, the head of the sumy city military administration, reports. emergency services are working at the site of the impact. the consequences are cynical.