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, surveys, all this will take place during the next two hours, in the first hour there are traditionally guests, well, then in the 2nd hour our joint communication with khrystyna yatskiv, so we will not delay, we will start, well, we will probably start already with announced by khrystyna, so we take our survey and traditionally ask you, are you listening? sometimes russian music, why do we ask you in general, because we will talk about this in the second part of our program, and because there are certain statistics that, unfortunately, russian music is still present in the charts, in different on different platforms, and, unfortunately, despite the terrible war going on in ukraine, our citizens listen to it, so do you sometimes listen to russian music, today we ask you if you think so... then please

take your smart phones or phones and dial 0800 211 381, if not 0800 211 382, ​​all your calls are absolutely free, at the end of this hour we will tally up the subtotals, at the end of the next one, there will be general final results after our discussion with you, and we, khrystyna, will probably start with our guests, so for now? we expect that oleksiy hetman, a military analyst, a reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, will be in touch. short, probably, it is worth outlining what we will talk about. first of all, even our broadcast on youtube today is called, if i'm not mistaken, nato reaction, that is, we will talk about the fact that more and more often on the territory of the countries that are members of the north atlantic alliance, in the sky, or on the ground, there are.

russian drones, as it turned out in latvia, and you remember the last information, it was in this country that a russian drone was located, in latvia the drone was with explosives on board, that is to say, i am not talking about romania, moldova and poland, almost on a regular basis, not only drones, but also missiles, i don't know who is next, it's definitely worth talking about it, but first of all about the situation in... we will of course talk about it right away, now it's our as the first guest, it is already traditional for us oleksiy hetman, military analyst, reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, mr. oleksiy, well , a little tro, a little yes, but we are glad to see you, good evening, glory to ukraine, now a minute, glory to the heroes, here we are for a minute everything is fine, everything is fine, i would still like to . to focus at the beginning of our

conversation on the situation on the front line since the last time we spoke with you, mr. oleksiy, and our colleagues spoke with you. these conversations were full, well , in fact, of great anxiety for pokrovsk, for turetsk, new york, we talked a lot about what the russians are resorting to in the kupyan direction, for example, and now, now there is more and more, well, i would say, encouraging information about a possible movement in the direction of stabilization by the defense forces, almost all directions, how do you see the situation this time, this day, please. well, what the commander, syrsky, says, he should be trusted in an interview with cnn, that in the pokrovsky direction there was not a single centimeter of progress, as he said, in recent days, in other directions, the enemy is advancing, but not so fast, and well it is north, south of

pokrovsk, further there, there are still battles going on, but for now, well, it can be assumed that we will soon stop them there too, why can we assume that, well , first of all, because... that the potential that the russians were preparing for offensive actions, he, it is being exhausted, the potential should not be understood exclusively as the number of people or the number of artillery systems or shells there, any offensive operation, it is being prepared, a lot of components are prescribed there, and exactly what was prepared is exhausted, it is not possible, that simply people have run out, people can be added, but in order to prepare an offensive operation, a lot must be done together. units operate among themselves, such as the interaction of aviation, which is logistics, and which, well, all of this, this is, then this is a big relative, isn’t it the relative number of people can be a military unit that carries out offensive actions, offensive actions are not easy, there are many of us and

ran forward, we will be there, it will give everyone nightmares, no, this is what they were preparing, i will finish, the chaos in the world is so, so it happens, the offensive apparatus ends. a question, a question in response, so there were calculations that it would end sometime before the end of september, well, it started, because they did not add there, did not remove from the pokrovsky direction, and not the reserves

they planned to add, reserves for chicken and besides, we introduced our 12th national brigade in new york. guards, well, my dear, the formation itself is not called from the national guard, of course from kulchyskyi, but it is a very good, very good unit, and many may not like it, but reserves are added at the moment when it seems that we we can no longer hold the defense, and when it seems that the enemy, it also seems to the enemy that he has already achieved the results he planned for. well , you can even remember about the second world war, maybe even soviet films, well, this this is how it is done, you may not like it very much, because the units that are on the defensive have to bear, unfortunately, losses and have to withdraw with battles,

why not immediately, well, because then it will not give an effect, not for a strategic effect, a tactical advantage can, but no strategic one, right now is the time... the time when we need to add reserves, we can see it in new york, and i am sure that pokrovsky, selidov direction, well, ughledar, well, where, where, where , through, they will start join our reserves, and the russians understand that they are the first the passion, the charge, they had is running out, and here they are immediately where something has advanced, they are trying to build fortifications behind them, because you understand. that there will be a retaliatory strike, well, it is as we can see, well, i can’t help but say it right away, i don’t know how much time i still have, please, please, the collapse of the front has not happened, that is, all the panic scenarios did not make excuses, we cannot

let the enemy get 3-4 km to pokrovska or mirnagrad, because this is the distance of a mortar shot, and the artillery... system can there , it is much more difficult to fight counterbattery with mortars, you can throw them, well, the city is very dense, and there are powerful fortifications, even the civilian population got involved. it is to dig something there, build something there, work on the fortifications, the fortifications had to be provided with communication and a lot, it is not just to dig a trench, but anyway, you don't want to let it into the suburbs, so that there is no distance for a minute shot, and that's what i started with, this is an additional, so to speak , answer without question, remember, i i appeal to our viewers, remember those people who told you a week ago, two weeks ago... that the front line was breached, ours abroad, that everything is bad,

collapse, everything is bad, the commanders are not like that, the troops are not like that, they are opening up some kind of door to the dnipro, well, the former dnipropetrovsk and so on, why am i saying this, just remember who said it, well, we don't remember well what was three, a month or two ago, not saying that it was two or three years ago , who did what, who said what, well, nothing, there will be chaos... we will remember, but what was a week or two ago, well, i'm sure that our short-term memory works well, just remember who said it, in order to further draw conclusions for yourself, whether it makes sense to listen to these people, so that they will tell today or tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, remember who said that all is lost, well, you see, nothing is lost, as it turned out, well, that's the way it is, i'm sorry that i'm a little sidetracked, but let's go anyway, thank you, thank you for this remark. another topic that,

in fact, has fallen on us like a snowball in the last few days, well, that's it it is probably a traditional topic that russian drones fly into nato territory, so romania is already a tradition, relatively speaking, but in fact we see that the russians are moving further, here on... for example, if we are talking about romania, then they are in once again announced that a russian drone had violated their airspace, and the wreckage is being searched for, another wreckage was found today, but in addition, drones began to fall on the territory of the baltic countries, yes, in fact, in lithuania, including in lithuania was recorded in latvia, sorry, in latvia a drone was recorded. and in particular the minister of foreign affairs of lithuania,

gabrielus landobergis, he said that nothing should fall on ukraine or latvia or anywhere on the territory of nato, but this is a new reality that our inaction has led to. well, besides that, we 're seeing this quote on the screens right now, yes. in addition, today... they also closed the airspace in sweden, the capital of stockholm, namely in the area of ​​the airport, it is not yet known there, no, no, they did not qualify, they did not classify what it is was, what kind of drones were they, but we can also assume that in theory they could be russian drones, that is, the range here, unfortunately, is expanding, mr. oleksiy, the question for you is why russia is doing this right now? earlier, it did not allow itself to have an aggressive drone policy, at least, and

the second question, how will nato react to this anyway? well, they, they, they are provoking, for the russians, it would be very good for the war to go beyond the borders of our country, well, the russian federation, for the war to start in other countries places, then, i'm sure, the help to us, well , it may decrease, and the attention to us may not be the same as it is now, if there is a war somewhere in europe or there in the far east or in the middle east, well, that's it their russians desire, you know, they really like the reaction of our baltic friends, they largely blame the leadership of the nato bloc for inactivity and for such a sluggish reaction, and the answer that stoltenberg gave, maybe stoltenberg, maybe not, someone, someone nato said, i kind of the stoltenbergs. i might confuse it a little that there are no signs, in my opinion, stoltánka,

gensik, that there are no signs that this drone that flew into a baltic country, a nato member country, that this was a deliberate action on the part of the russian federation, that this drone could only be blocked, well you know, with such a reaction and with such explanations, well then let the rocket fly, for example, heaven forbid in some city in some nato country is desirable, well not desirable, and if it is, for example, not poland, romania, or the baltic countries , and something like that, well, we know. there somewhere closer to western europe, i don't want to call it the fact that something will fly to you, that we are provoking something here , then the reaction will be what, somewhere there, somewhere there, ugh, that there are no signs that this missile was launched on purpose, it just flew away by itself, a firecracker, well, that’s how the down premium exploded, darvivina, well down,

well, it’s about the same, you know, i don’t know how to convince our partners, management... then it seems to me that people should citizens of these countries began to press, as they say from below, because what they are doing and what they talk, it's a simple question, i would like it if i was in lithuania, and of course in poland, we talked there with the people you are, well, not with those, not with latvians, but with lithuanians, with me i would like one of our diplomats to ask the question, is it possible to believe in such a thing? that in the history lessons some time after our victory, the history teacher will tell that, well, in 2004, her countries, the members of nato, communicated with each other and made a decision whether to shoot down air targets over their own territory, missiles or drones, or not to shoot them down, so that this does not lead to an escalation of the conflict. i am sure that the children

who went to listen to such a teacher will say, you must be joking, there can be no such thing in the country. members of nato made a decision whether to shoot down a missile that did not fly in their direction, but flew into their territory, we do not believe you, you read something wrong, some abstracts and this cannot happen, because this can never happen, it seems to me that maybe such arguments, i don't know what other arguments to give, because it is to think, to confuse or don't shoot down a missile that flies into your territory, a fighter that doesn't fit, i'm sorry , russian pilot, well, that is, if some plane got lost there, theoretically, i understand that they should think about it.

for the most part, yes, it is difficult for us, you help us with weapons, but we are not afraid of them, you are much more powerful from an economic point of view, and from a military point of view, well, from a military point of view , it is unlikely, i believe that the ukrainian army is the strongest army in europe , this is at least, and you continue to be afraid, well, that is a good rhetorical question, mr. oleksiy, and i would like to cite consolidated analytics from oleksandr kovalenko from information resistance, he simply counted how in recent times, during literally... one day, which i do not specify, the russian occupying forces used up to fifty su-34 frontal bombers, up to 20 su-25 attack aircraft, at least 10 k-52 attack helicopters, four multipurpose mi-8s, and in total about 50 cab drops were carried out, and 25

launches of other guided and unguided air missiles, and all these, and all these... planes and helicopters took off from airfields, which are less than 300 km from our border with russia. thus, mr. oleksandr, and i share his indignation here a little, does not understand why, what the pentagon is lying about the facts, there is kirby, the national security adviser, he is not lying, he is simply, they, they are afraid and they are already looping , yes, they loop, you know , when is the last phase of looping, when some poetic metaphors like that begin there, our weapon is not silver, a silver bullet, which might be there, well, that’s it, you already know that, well that’s kindergarten is already starting, and regarding the fact that kirby said that 90% of russian aviation is outside the range of their missiles, well, he told

the whole truth, only he meant 90% of all russian aviation, not that, not the one that is involved . directly in the russian-ukrainian war, because russia, it is possible and, well, this is approximately accurate, they have there, well , relatively speaking, more than two thousand different aircraft, about 300 were involved in the russian-ukrainian war, that is, about 10%, that is, 90% of planes is far from the russian-ukrainian war, but we we say, but here are your numbers, that these 10,300 planes, they go up and make these attacks, what the analyst is talking about. there the guy did, well , he did everything correctly, he calculated everything clearly, that's why we don't say that we want to destroy all the russian aviation, which is located in the far east, there is a commune there. there is china, there is south korea, there is eventually australia and japan, there they will deal with them if something like this happens there, and

china, of course, we also understand, it has claims since 853 , if i'm not mistaken, there certain agreements and certain territory china wants to return, at least they have already started talking about it, we want to destroy the aviation that is at that distance that your missile can reach, and if you want to make us. fools, then let's sit down, look at the analytics, and let's do it, well, here, there's no need to hide anything, any secrets, let's sit down so that everyone can see, to see in europe, here we show where their airfields are located, we we show where they take off from and in what number, and then kirpis goes behind the fence and starts and doesn't who knows who else will come out there, and then tell, well , it's not the same, it's 90, well, let's let you know it's such a talk show. so that they, these people who say otaku achinya and such lies, that they received such a scumbag from the citizens of their own country, because there are people, they, well, they

will not tolerate it, you know, you are one of us you are making a fool of yourself, well, we understand that we are dependent on you, well, when you start doing mischief, forgive your citizens, i think that they will very quickly explain to you that they somehow disagree, the question, but in in the context of this, how do you comment on the fact that... did iran actually supply, well , again according to the reports of the wall street journal from the report of the times, that is, we will receive information from foreign sources that iran actually supplied ballistic missiles to russia, that is, supplied did not put, we will really see now, but by the way, this can also be characterized in the context of what we are talking about, about the impossibility of striking with long-range weapons on the territory of russia, for example... but at the same time, iran quietly supplies alleged missiles to russia, north korean, by the way, we have recently been a place of storage, but in the context of this,

the first question, if you can briefly, how dangerous will these missiles really be for ukraine, for at least the ukrainian border, they will be dangerous, and the second question, is it not being considered, again in your opinion... the possibility of supplying more telecobian missiles, let's say there are 400, 500, 600 km, well, this is zelfihartex, i think that is being considered, well, first of all, well, iran argues for these deliveries by the fact that, well, the west supplies us weapons that they cannot to supply weapons to russia, that is, the arguments, well , the difference is that we are defending russia aggressively, but that's the way it is, well, no attention is paid to it, it's like a war that just started on its own. and yet the west supplies weapons to ukraine, so we can supply weapons to ukraine, well, this is such an eastern trick, everything is sewn with telominits, what

makes these missiles dangerous, they are short-range, but they are very accurate, we have short-range but high-precision missiles, antonivsky bridge, for example , these are important things, and why dangerous, it is dangerous from the point of view of the range of other missiles. they carry out massive shelling, well, it's about a hundred once a month, well , you can count it approximately how much they calculate, one and a half months, it's one and a half hundred, well, we saw on august 26-27 an attack on energy facilities, and the missiles are not long-range missiles in them there is a point in the eye of the s-300, but they are not very accurate, and in order to destroy something near the borders, from the demarcation line, you need to use the same iskanders, these are relatively accurate missiles, if there will be another rocket. to previously transferred equipment, many, many interesting things, but the most interesting thing is that, based on the official announcement, half of this swedish package will go to spare parts for gripens, which in

the future can be transferred to ukraine, let's just remind you, well, they are not bad planes, they are such partisan planes they are called that because they can get on an unprepared plane, well, remember the f-16, that there must be some kind of super duper. ugh, the official line, and these can sit there in the field, well, relatively speaking, that is, they do not need it, and it is quite possible, that we will get these planes easier and faster from sweden already with the missiles that we have come in handy, we will be here, how we will use air to ground or air to air, we will decide for ourselves, these are fighters, but they are more like i would say more like attack aircraft will be used, what? mr. oleksii, we are very grateful to you for joining the espresso tv channel, for your thoughts, your analysis oleksii hetman, military analyst,

reserve major of the national guard. everything is great, thank you, mr. oleksiy, thank you so much, what moving on and reminding you about our survey, today we ask you if you listen to russian music at least sometimes, if so, please dial absolutely free 0800 211 381, if you think not, 0800... 11382 from your smartphones , phones, i remind you once again, all calls are completely anonymous, free of charge, and we will definitely talk to you about this, it is really important for us to understand , you know, the trend, so we ask you to be honest, we understand that the answers may be different, but once again we emphasize that this anonymous survey, let's go further, ihor lytvyn, co-leader of the ukrainian-chinese business council,

former ambassador of ukraine to china. in 1999-2001, now there is a direct connection, mr. igor, we are glad to welcome you to espresso. good evening, good evening. well, probably, let's start with the hopes of the countries of the group of seven, that china and india can play their own, you know, role in the settlement of the conflict between russia and ukraine. in particular , the prime minister. president of ukraine at the amrozetti forum also stated that china and india can become mediators in the negotiations on the end of the war in ukraine. let's listen to her. i believe that china and india should play a role in resolving the conflict. the only thing that cannot happen is to think that the conflict can be resolved by leaving ukraine. well, actually, mr. igor, do

you now see the desire and resourcefulness on the part of the global south to play the role of settling the conflict, the conflict that the russian federation unleashed against ukraine, this is a bloody war that has actually lasted not three years, but 10. so or maybe global south, in the healthy sense of the word, join the settlement? i... think that it can and i think that i should, but i don't see any signs that it can be a practical, meaningful expression, because china and india, they talk a lot, put forward plans for settlement of this, as they call the conflict, although in reality it is ...

the same, the same conflict in quotation marks, as the nanking massacre of 1937, when the japanese zagardians killed 300 to 500 thousand civilians, well, we don't call it conflict, although they call it, i do not believe that china or india, they are determined to become real. mediators in ending this bloody war unleashed by the russian federation, or rather , the russian federation, against ukraine without motivation. you can talk about many things, you can put forward many things, talk about diplomacy, as morendra says, modi, and dialogue, called.