although in fact it is the same, the same conflict in quotation marks as the nanking massacre in 1937, when japanese soldiers killed 300,000 to 500,000 civilians, well, we don't call it a conflict, although they do, i don't believe that and china or india, they are determined to... become real mediators in ending this bloody war unleashed unmotivated by the russian federation, or rather, the russian federation against ukraine. you can talk a lot, you can put forward a lot of plans what, talk about diplomacy, as morendra modi says, and dialogue, urged. it is possible, as

china does, to all sides, it calls on them to stop the escalation of the war, but no one says, wait, the aggressor should stop its aggression and leave the territory of a sovereign state, given that this is an absolute violation of the un charter, from whom, it is on the part of the present, means the member. of the un security council, so trying to make russia stop its aggression against ukraine, ukraine is one thing, and real actions are another, well, if we take, let's say, sidzinpin, yes, he can be credited with the fact that he was in march of last year, when he visited russia with an official visa. the first after his

appointment as the third chairman of the prc, and the fact that he set out china's vision in a joint political statement regarding the use or threat of use of nuclear weapons, especially against a non-nuclear state, and even he, when he came to france not so long ago, and heard that he is being called upon again... to use his influence on russia in order that bloody aggression stopped, he said: "lord, i have already done everything possible and impossible, having in mind precisely what concerns the threat of using nuclear weapons, so my answer will be negative. if we are talking , mr. igor, about sino-russian relations in general relationships, that's a lot."

many people, of course, accuse china of financing many russian projects, actually feeding the russian economy, but at the same time, russian propagandists claim that china is reducing financial operations in russia, i.e. in particular, the russian military propagandist is aleksei zhivov, he complains that china continues to actively sabotage foreign trade with russia, putting russian exporters. and importers in a difficult situation, let's take a look at this quote: sorry for the russian language, these problems have long been massive and avalanche-like, now we can say with confidence that china , under the pressure of the usa, is simply suffocating our economy - said this russian propagandist. in addition, let's add more information, the day before reuters reported that in...

russian raw materials companies began to have cash shortages due to china's refusal to make payments, well, there are such things, well, and in particular, including putin invited a meeting with xi jinping to solve russia's problems, in particular, in bank payments and the construction of the power of siberia-2 gas pipeline, here is such information different comes, how is it mr.. igor correlates with this support of china, china, russia, and is china really now starting to at least lobby and at least try, as they say, to directly support russia, to sit here on two chairs, whether please, let me start with the statement of the mass media that against the background of all these difficulties with payments... putin

urgently invited a meeting with zimpin, this is not true, forget about it, this is not, therefore, correct information, because is meant that putin, in a conversation with the vice president of china hanzhenim, said, taking into account the relevant norms of the protocol, that it would be good, because he would be happy to see the instructions in a month and a half from the head of the people's republic of china, xi jinping. of course, this is completely within the rules of protocol, believe me, who... organized, at least for president kuchma, six state visits to those countries that i managed as the head of the asia -takian region of the near middle east and africa of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, that everything is absolutely

agreed and everything is foreseen, of course xi jinping, as the head of a country that is a member, a member of brics, will come to kazan, and of course. for a bilateral meeting has also been arranged, where they will discuss all those issues that they consider necessary to be discussed, therefore there is no need to connect putin's statements to the vice president of the prc from payment problems, payments, or rather payment problems, they are, and they are right, that propagandist you mentioned that china is under pressure from the us so... is happening when biden signed the corresponding law that you can impose secondary sanctions against , means those financial institutions that violate the sanctions imposed on russia, it turns out that 98,

imagine, 98% of these payment transactions, they do not work, chinese banks and financial structures are involved in the calculations, they... do not accept the so-called dirty yuan from russia, that of course, this is a huge problem, but one more important thing should be kept in mind: china is considering this, and this is just on the surface, so, as a western power, chinese analysts and experts are talking about this, and to confirm this, this theses... literally yesterday i read the statement of the rashi propagandist zakhar prilepin, he is an ideologue and who else, i don’t know, but who said, well, let’s be honest with ourselves, if the west turns

its face to us, beckons with its finger, then we run let's throw everyone into the arms of the west, everything is clear here, that's why china is doing everything that it...who benefits from doing, as it has always done, never in its life has china pursued anyone's interests, only its own, its own national interests, and this is what is happening now in our country, which means running the risk of falling under the secondary sanctions imposed by the united states of america, when this will harm the economy of china itself, here is the whole answer for you, after all, china has very... successfully checked the situation in which it actually planted russian federation on the appropriate needle, oil-financial, let's say this, and now it is methodically dosing through this needle everything that is needed, and i would like to remind you that

the russian federation almost did the same to the whole of europe as a whole with all those northern flows and energy resources that... they were directed and did not begin to direct for objective reasons, and thank god, as we understand, as we see, europe will get along perfectly one way or another without russian, but that's the way it is, look, i would also like to ask you a question that concerns rhetoric of the candidate for the presidency of the united states trump's states, he intended sanctions from russia and iran there, in order to prevent them from doing their own thing, you know, the main thing.

that our favorite was the current president, mr. biden, but he was removed from the race, but he recommended all his supporters to support him. don't you think that in this way putin also wants to give a passport to trump, well, conditionally speaking,

in the information about the united states of america, if he wanted to give a passport to trump, then it would not have turned out the way it did, because trump said that this , hence putler's rhetoric that he supports camilo haris, it means that she will offend him very much, how can this be considered a positive pass. i don't understand, well, but let's not forget that both this and that, this is public speaking, there are races in the states, not all of those who support this or that candidate are people, deeply, so i understand , who is deeply versed in analytics, and there is simply an appeal to the public, of course, trump does not want the dollar to cease to be the main currency in the world, this

is clear, and here he can be absolutely understood by everyone, not analysts, yes, and he does not want at all , for the dollar to be replaced chinese yuan, and here, therefore, i will express the fact that the lifting of sanctions from russia can, well... be some kind of negative message for replacing the yuan and transforming its world politics, i see a special one here, and let's not forget that putler also never will not say that he actually wants a federation, because trump, when he said that his support was sent by butler to gary's side. she insulted him, and he said that he didn't want russia to interfere

in the american election, he said, let's not interfere in the american election, well, that's why understood, here i think, well, thank you for these important comments, and it is really important to understand how much the global south has the opportunity to influence the russian federation in general. and to what extent it coincides with , well, probably our interests will become igor, thank you, ihor lytvyn, co-chair of the ukrainian-chinese business council, former ambassador of ukraine to china in 1999 / 2001. the survey is ours, we traditionally remind you, do you listen, at least sometimes, to russian music, absolutely free, you can take your smartphones or phones, vote, if so, 0800 211 380. 382 and in 15 minutes

we will see the first results, we have volodymyr omelyan on direct call now, politician, diplomat, major of the armed forces of ukraine, former minister of infrastructure in 16-19 years, mr. volodymyr , good to see you, good evening, good evening, let's simplify all my titles, because i sound like some kind of emperor or king, just a dispatch major. do you ever listen to russian music? you know, i have never been a fan of her since childhood, so it is possible mega could invent some famous melody there or remember, but that's all, well, mr. volodymyr, we are, but this is such a rhetorical question, but mr. volodymyr, if we are already starting a conversation with you, the first topic is you.. . so i would like to ask you, there will be a debate on september 10, the first debate between

ha and trump, the candidate for the presidency of the united states, from the republican party, trump said that if he wins the election, he plans to relax sanctions against russia, there is a little something like that the plus-minus question was, that is, he allegedly stated, but allegedly justifies that in a different context. but less so, if we are talking about these debates that will take place, and about these statements of trump, and about... the first such full-fledged interview of kamala hariy regarding ukraine. first, how do you generally assess the possibility of changing a certain schedule of ratings after the debate? and the second question, how do you assess the current rhetoric of both candidates regarding ukraine? please? well, you know, i watch

the political races in the united states with interest, because really. turned the table, agreeing to remove his candidacy, some even say that it was all planned out, and it didn't just happen, yes, but nevertheless, kamala now has a very good chance to win, she is showing herself very well in this race, and what they tell me my friends, that she listens carefully to political consultants, has her own point of view and... and it manages to be successfully combined at the moment, we will see, because there is still a lot of time before the elections themselves for the ukrainian political reality, it is generally an eternity, here in three new months may appear in ukraine candidates, and the old ones who were leaders disappear, in the united states the picture is a little different, but it is clear that the main weapon of trump,

which he insisted on, is ageism, so that biden is old and infirm, he is young and handsome, now about.. . is just turned against himself, he looks pretty pale, a team that used to stamp such rather strange statements is no longer getting that favor with the moderate voter, and the situation is very difficult for him, but again, we will keep a close eye on the race in that one. , in why should we be sure that a victory for either side won't bring us some fantastic breakthrough. both the united states and the west are increasingly moving in the direction of pragmatic relations, and now our key decision, as for ukraine, must be pereco, we must convince our partners that we are not just situational friends, but friends for many years, decades, that we we will always be the west, we

are part of the west, and the main... outcome of this war is ukraine's entry into nato and the eu. if you can convince biden of this, at the end of his term, it will be great in general. if not, we need to work very powerfully, as we like the word now, yes, powerfully, with the president-elect of the united states, so that in his or her next term, we acquire membership in these two organizations. this is key for us. approach to guarantee our security, and i hope that we, as a society, despite the efforts of some ukrainians and ukrainian politicians to stop it, still achieved this. it would be good to get permission from the united states for use here appropriate weapons on russian airfields, what can be said about membership in nato or the eu in the near future. well, that's another

question. so, mr. volodymyr, is what putin supported openly? he is trying to bring her down in this way, because frankly, it adds a certain toxicity to the candidate supported by putin, or it seems to me from the position of a ukrainian, i agree with your reasoning, at the same time, this is a traditional game of the kremlin, such a bribe for trump, so everyone knows that the kremlin's sympathies were on trump's side, they don't have... he tries to do so in a way to compromise some skamala, because trump also sometimes uses pre-election rhetoric, anti-kremlin slogans, although they are very weak, then he forgets himself, says other things, there he says that the lifting of sanctions is important, and there are many such unpleasant things for us, but remember, how putin took a dog with him to a meeting with

merkel, that is, this is a way to throw the opponent off balance, and it was clearly mocking like this. that biden asked everyone to support kamala, well, we support that kamala, he hates biden, he tried in every possible way to create conditions for biden to feel uncomfortable, but in the end he failed, because biden's policy was so, you know, reasonable and purposeful, regarding missiles, you don't need to turn american or western missiles into some kind of miracle weapon, which will solve everything, but we did not expect this about hymers. what will happen to the f-16, many other things, they affect, but do not fundamentally decide, fundamentally can theoretically solve the mass production of ukrainian missiles in thousands of pieces, because attacked no one will give more than a couple...hundreds in the best case, but on the other hand, we must remember that russia has already hit ukraine with more than 10,000 missiles during this period of time, it helped, well, it didn't

help much, the destruction is great, the losses we have big ones, but we didn't give up. one more topic that i would like to talk about with you, plans for victory and formulas for peace, we have been discussing for the last few days, at least about this... sounds from various mass media, and the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyy is also talking about this, in particular during during his visit to italy, vitaly zelenskyi discussed with american congressmen certain details of the victory plan, which will soon be presented to the president of the united states of america, joe biden, and let's hear what the president of ukraine said about it. held a meeting with the delegation of the us congress on the sidelines of the forum in italy, they talked in particular about the victory plan for

ukraine, about some of its details, and we will fully present all the steps to the president of the united states, biden and both presidential candidates, trump and garis. the main thing for us now, at the beginning of autumn, to strengthen ukraine's position as much as possible. ukrainians, the protection of our cities and villages from russian terror, of course, more opportunities for our soldiers at the front. at the same time, the chancellor of the federal republic of germany, olaf scholz, is allegedly also preparing his peace plan, and again, allegedly with the transfer or discussion of the transfer of certain ukrainian territories to russia, in particular about this... the italian newspaper la republica actually writes speaking of it, the italian newspaper writes that scholz plans to go down in history

as a kind of chancellor of peace, yes, taking advantage of the war in ukraine to regain his own positions, well, of course, his positions were weakened after the last elections in two federal states, and now, of course, scholz needs something, at least an informational one... well, if you compare this the victory plan, here is this peace formula, the first question is how effective do you think this victory formula or zelenskyi’s victory plan is, and the second question, mir scholz’s formula, is it possible in general, or is it conventionally speaking, just talk, after these publications, after some statements , they will not go anywhere, if... i am not mistaken, 10 points of zelensky were announced last year, which made up the peace formula, and it is strange to me that we are discussing at all,

based on the official relations of the ukrainian authorities, because these points are like there were 10 commandments or 10 tablets on which everything was clearly recorded, and as if nothing should change, even during the peace summits, we see that the era of vacations is over, the world has entered september, so very a lot of all kinds of intermediaries appeared, who are ready to sincerely or intentionally help to achieve some kind of solution to this military question. it is obvious that a war without bright achievements or successes is a very exhausting thing, murderous for economies, for political reputation, we do not see bright achievements. at the same time, we have a huge problem, which is connected with the kursk offensive, and on the one hand, a brilliant non-standard political move,

on the other hand, when i hear that this is a serious argument, regarding the exchange of captured territories, and we are talking about the kursk region of 1,200 km according to optimistic statements our side, and more than 110,000 km, which was captured by russia. and still continues to advance, then i don't think that we can talk about any serious exchanges here, apart from talking about it, we will see what the trip of president zelenskyi will bring to ukraine, nevertheless, it seems to me that the main forces of ukraine should now be concentrated on better provision of the armed forces of ukraine, because it is not true that there has been stabilization at the front, it is not true that we have parity in shells. even if you take into account fpv, because there is a different impressive possibility and number on on battlefield, and it is equally untrue that we now have enough troops, something must

be done about all this. and also, by the way, it is not true that we are ready to protect our energy facilities, and winter is actually a long year, a month and a half, or even a month away, we have to start the heating period, with what and where is not clear, the only thing today we have the president's assurance that this responsibility will be personal, i hope that he, as the president of ukraine , will also take this personal responsibility and for himself, because he appointed people to directions, kept them in their positions. accordingly monitored their work, based on their public statements, mr. volodymyr, and finally, we can’t help but ask, let’s say, i ask a question, and you comment on it as much as you can, because i understand that the status of a military serviceman can limit in discussions of some political issues, but we have recently had a certain number of staff rotations, and it looked more like, well, just

a change of regalia of the same people. iryna vereshchuk left the ministry to work in the president's office. in principle, transcarpathian ova and its until recently leader also went to the president's office. we see that the ministries important for ukraine are now headed by other people, unlike even the previous week. what is this change connected with and is it as of now, as you see. refreshed and gave a new impetus to the work of the relevant institutions. well, you know, as a person who survived the russian air bomb attack on august 24, i believe that i have a second birth now, i can all to say what i think is necessary, and what someone would like to hear, is a banal exchange of friends for friends, on the one hand, it is filling a vacancy in the government, but in order for ukraine to be able to make a breakthrough in its state

administration. and to show the world that we not only fight bravely, but manage wisely, carry out reforms, the quality of these people should be several heads higher, and we actually got the replacement of people loyal to yermak with super loyal ones, well, is it effective, for sure no. 2.5 years of mistakes, messing around, messing around and being absent of the production cycle of any completed in ukraine, as far as the revolver is concerned, shows that all these attempts... when we are talking about kamyshino, that is, if the man really started the production of missiles, if he started the work of the defense plant, then what the hell can we talk about, promotion him to the strategic adviser, what is a strategic adviser, or when we talk about ms. vereshchuk, well, i think that she should have been under trial and investigation a long time ago, and not joyfully announce that she is now in the opu, as she wrote there or where did she go

well, and many other things that look well... just blasphemous, yes, when people are dying at the front, here someone is dragging the beds and it is called a big bed theft, ugh, thank you, thank you, mr. volodymyr, for inclusion, we wish good health and a speedy recovery, thank you, it was, let's remember, volodymyr omylyan, i will now tell you all your regalia, i will allow myself this politician, diplomat, major of the armed forces of ukraine and former. infrastructure from 2016 to 2019, and i will just remind you that today andriy smoly and i are asking you if you are listening something, at least sometimes russian music, and 15% of those who called us sometimes listen to it, more details in the second part of our program, and for now we pass the floor to our colleagues from bbc ukraine.

russian drones in the sky of the country. parts are often launched from the territory of the russian federation. shaheds cross the western border of ukraine, causing concern of the leaders of the eu countries. but will it outgrow it? into action and what exactly can force the countries of the alliance to respond to russia? we are talking about this live on bbc ukraine, i am inna kosynska. on the night of september 8 during another drone attack from the territory of the russian federation on ukraine, russian drones crossed the borders of two nato countries at once. romania and latvia. romania recorded how a russian drone violated its airspace, and this happened at the same time that the russian federation attacked ukrainian ports.