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the project has been in the verkhovna rada for more than a year , it was registered by people's deputies from almost all factions, and this bill has been in the verkhovna rada for so long and is not brought to the meeting hall, it is simply not brought because, well, why because, firstly, everyone doesn't care, and secondly, because it is possible that someone is afraid of some, well , including future electoral consequences there someday, i'm sorry, but in... today we have a question whether ukraine will be or not , will be ukrainian, will it not be, will it win russia's information war, will russia lose the information war, and here it is no longer about who has what electoral positions or who has what, relatively speaking, views, here the question is whether we are ukraine or whether russia will continue to effectively carry out its hybrid war both in ukraine and abroad, that is...
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this is the level it should be, maybe there can be others, there can be another comprehensive approach to all this, but in my opinion, the ban of russian music on legal platforms, and the actual adoption of this bill, pro which i just said, 9547 regarding, regarding administrative fines, again, by a business entity, and the campaign, explanations, work with young people, all this, unfortunately, is not done, i... believe that if we if they did, the situation would be much and much better. well, i would probably like to note that the issue here is not only one’s own development, as opposed to the usual russian one, here the issue is really survival and self-preservation, since the russian federation and high-ranking officials of this country, who are empowered to voice the will of the führer, and they
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they openly say why everything that they started on a large scale almost three years ago in our country, and in fact already more than 10 years ago, is continuing different information, yes, sergey lavrov, what he remarked, andriy, how he explains, by the way, this is not just an explanation, it is an answer that... in our previous hour in the new week, we talked about what scholz proposed, conditionally saying, some there the peace formula, yes, accordingly, in the context of which, allegedly, according to the italian newspaper la repubblica, certain territorial concessions may take place for the aggressor state, that is, our ukrainian territory, and here lavrov answered, and it is clear... that
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lavrov never will say what he thinks, he will say this general line of putin, the general line of the rashists, the kremlin, and he voiced, it converges there, in fact everything, and he voiced that it is not serious to talk about the resolution of the ukrainian conflict, as the issue of the exchange of territories is about people's rights, and in particular he stated that people's rights mean the protection of... the russian-speaking population. i quote: no conflict settlement initiative regarding ukraine concerns the russian-speaking population. this is a key problem. that is, the occupying state, the terrorist state does not set itself the main goal in this war, and we have repeatedly talked about this, including the territorial issue. the occupying power, first of all. poses the question of solving
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the general existence of ukraine, their key the task they have been carrying out since 2014, mainly since february 24, 2022, is the liquidation of the ukrainian question, the liquidation of the ukrainian state itself, the liquidation of the ukrainian language, the liquidation of the population living on the territory of ukraine, the liquidation of ukrainian history, the liquidation of all ukrainian values , that is, in essence , the creation of a kind of clone of two russias, perhaps even they did not think that ukraine would become a part of russia there, they would like to see ukraine as belarus-2, that is, it is a question of existential war. and lavrov, and putin, and other russian terrorists, they clearly outline that, for example, the russian language...
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this is a key issue for them, a key issue, and the promotion of the russian language in ukraine, it was, it is, and it will be at the forefront of the russian struggle, therefore, when someone says: listen, well, if there was no russian in ukraine or there was no russian music or russian culture there and so on and the like, then, accordingly, then russia would still, would still consider it russia and went to war, here as, as we can see, russia highlights this as one of the key points, why they consider ukraine, russia, whether it is correct or incorrect. whether it is right or wrong, but this is what they think, and we will not change their point of view, we can change ourselves in order not to give russia, not to give terrorists, not to give the occupiers any chance to think of us as russia
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two or for belarus, with this statement, in my opinion, lavrov kills two birds with one stone, and this is a danger that not everyone can handle now. notice with a statement that the russian federation is putting one of its main the goals of protecting the russian-speaking population in ukraine, this is an explanation to the russians themselves, and to the whole civilized world, what and why we are doing in ukraine now, and with this statement , lavrov actually adds fuel to the fire inside ukrainian society and... yes, people who are ukrainian-speaking in everyday life, russian-speaking people, who are responsible for what is happening in ukraine. i would like us to step back a little and distance ourselves from this
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thesis and return to the axiom. russia attacked us because of our existence, not because what we are, and therefore... we are, in principle, this is very important to understand, but this does not mean that inside our country should not mature, you know, such a, let's call it a social consensus about the fact that ukrainians, people, who live inside our country, must use the ukrainian language in order to get out of the russian federation. kataev, in general , the argument of russian-speaking on the territory of our country, this does not mean that someone will rush into your bed, your kitchen, your everyday life, there is specific ukrainian legislation, and there is
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understanding of causal relationships. i would like us to develop within our society, this critical thinking and understanding of cause and effect relationships. we would really... like the state to build these, you know, neural connections in the mind of the ukrainian people at the level of its own policy. if you listen to russian music on official streaming platforms, then you are paying your money to the military-industrial complex of the russian federation, because their entire economy is now focused on supporting the hot phase of the war with ukraine, because they have already gone to the bank. for they have placed their existence on the table of this war, and they cannot back down, they cannot surrender. to be honest, when the large-scale invasion began, and putin got hit in the teeth for the first time, as he should
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, near kiev, well, further there and in sumy oblast, part of zhytomyr oblast was occupied, many yes, many forget about it, and others, chernihiv oblast and so on. i thought that he, well, he does it so often, but it didn’t happen, and in general, in principle, the goals of the special operation were fulfilled, and he would have veiled further, how exactly he built these goals, what was meant by what he said and so on, he didn't do it, and so after 2.5 and 3 years of a large-scale invasion and all the losses and ours on the other side, and they have colossal, he's definitely not going to just roll over and pretend to... it was logical, maybe even expected somewhere in the first days and weeks of a large-scale invasion, but when he was told he didn't do it, of course he continues it now , and well, i have a question, what are you doing, why are you doing it,
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why do you do it at your own expense, i, in principle, do not really understand this nostalgia. maybe because i didn't live there in the soviet union, let's say, well, actually, but i lived in a very russian environment, i lived in the crimea, and... well, this is a story about when your grades are lowered there in the second grade because the fact that you don't know how to write in russian, and you think so, and i am obliged, you come to the crimea and if you think that you are not obliged, in principle , to know some foreign language there, it's super, it's cool to the second class, it turns out that you don't know this a priori, this is first of all, everything else is history after that, the history here does not even consist in the fact that we do not even... make any reference there to the soviet past, we see that people who were not even born in the 90s, but
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who have not seen the soviet past, that they are actually clinging to this russian thing, but why this is happening, we also need to understand here, and we return to our the issue of conducting hybrid russian special operations, russia invests billions, just billions and billions of bloody rubles, these are cultural and informational. but language special operations, russia invests billions in its bloggers, who start working, in fact, with people barely from kindergarten, and this is a fact. russia invests billions of bloody rubles in social networks and the promotion of russian narratives there. we are just now witnessing how russia, unfortunately, has recovered after the 22nd year and is actually recovering now. makes these ipsoches, these special operations, this
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propaganda with such almost basic trojan by horse not only in ukraine, but also abroad. i remind you once again that young people who are sitting there in tiktok, who are sitting there in other social networks, yes, they, unfortunately, as of today, mostly consume precisely the russian product, which, perhaps, at first glance, is not.. . is somehow propagandistic, yes, it is not some kind of pro-russian, just a product, just for the youth, but behind all this, this series is the boy’s words, yes, it is, it is a direct product of russian agitprop, which is allegedly to present times is not relevant, and many people said, listen, well, why, well, it's about the soviet union there, about about those times, well, what does it have to do with it? but this whole series, read the analysts, it is all filled with russian
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propaganda narratives, which are primarily designed to convert young people to russian, and they are doing the same now with regard to russian music, with regard to all this russian pop, russian rap, just a question in therefore, as we answer this, we have a huge distribution of ukrainian music, ukrainian content, ukrainian... yes , this is not enough, yes, the state may not have the ability or desire to finance anything, but the state must use its leverage to block such content, whether we like it or not, someone says that it is not democratic, but i'm sorry, we live in times of war, and i'm sorry, we see that even the democratic, very democratic and liberal european union today is doing everything to... actually block this content, the telegram situation, the situation, a vivid example of the fact that democratic
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france, liberal france, france, where, where there are completely different views, today it raises questions about propaganda, about these psychological information special operations that take place in some social networks, ukraine does not raise such questions today, unfortunately , issues, and ukraine today does not raise the issue of mass and full-scale blocking. russian content , for example, i believe that there should not be russian content on youtube on the territory of ukraine either, content originating from the state the occupier, and we should also talk about it with social networks, discuss, talk, if it is not possible to talk, pass legislation, discuss it at the national security and defense council, this is what we should do, if today the youth is massively indoctrinated with this russian content and russian influence, something is needed with this, i'm sorry. to do, because even after winning the war on the front, we can lose
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the rear, we can again not notice what is happening in the rear, because of russian narratives, because of russian throws, because of russian propaganda and due to ukrainian inaction, the inaction of the state, there is a disintegration of society, how they are trying to tear us into different camps, into different pieces, how they are trying to... unite us and demonstrate that there are some people in ukraine who are ready to love russian. we cannot allow this to happen, and this is indeed a question for the people's deputies of ukraine today. we are already beginning to lose it, unfortunately, in many aspects, because of these russian narratives, which pour every second from all possible and impossible social networks, and regarding telegram, i would like to remind you that the committee of the verkhovna
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rada on humanitarian information policy is preparing a new version of the draft law on the regulation of platforms for access to information. we are talking about telegram in particular, it will probably contain a rule regarding the possible blocking of telegram in case of non-fulfillment of the requirements for the platform, and let us remind you that in march a bill about this, on the same topic, was registered, it was not paid enough attention until pavlo durov did not appeal his detention in france, but now many appeal to this topic with the argument: they do the same in russia, if you have more than 10,000 subscribers, in particular there in telegram, then please show who you are, show your data, register and so on. drawing these parallels actually seems dangerous to me, because any association with the russian federation has a purely psychological
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effect on our population. on the other hand, we understand how russians really are. no matter what we say about them now, they make sure that the excess does not leak out, and the main thing is to keep it, to maintain a healthy position of protecting our national interests and our information field, this is directly written in our constitution, this is the business of the entire ukrainian people, let me remind you, and not to fall into extremes, tantrums and censorship. destruction of a total nature in order to make it difficult in principle to find some true information on the network, this is not the case now, this is what russia is doing, we have a different way, a balanced one, but it is a way of protecting one’s own minds and the minds of the population, in the first place turn, well, russia, it just goes by blocking and by by the landing of those people, and ukraine must
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follow the european path, the path of the civilized world, by the way, in the civilized world there is also a direct demand to... many social networks that it cannot be a means of mass information, and if it is a page on a million subscribers or 100 thousand subscribers, that it cannot be such that no one knows who it is, no, well, well, i'm sorry, but this is nonsense, here the question should not be appealed to russia, here it should be appealed to the healthy and adequate sense, there can be no such thing that someone does not carry responsibility for what he does, for spreading fakes, for spreading lies, for example, ugh. there, the armed forces of ukraine, for throwing some information against some person, in the end all this can lead to issues of not ensuring national security, to issues of possible, possible leaks in the direction of russia, for example, further and the like, that is, in my opinion, the disclosure in the end of that, who runs a telegram channel there, or
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who runs some tiktok, or who runs some other social network, this is a normal european practice. abnormal european practice is really the blocking of some other opinion, that's another issue, but in my opinion, in ukraine, it is really the russian that should be blocked, not something else, but precisely everything that is russian, regarding the formation of state policy in the intended direction, but simply let us remind you that the verkhovna rada appointed mykola as the new minister of culture. mykola tochytsky, in general, the ministry of culture and information policy, which you are used to, is now called differently, and i like this name better, it is now the ministry of culture and strategic communications that is, we are not only talking about the information policy of our country, we are talking about the fact that the communications of our state and about our state are strategically important and
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we should build it accordingly, treat it accordingly. mykola tochytskyi, in fact, was until recently the deputy head of the president's office and a diplomat. the ministry of culture received not only a new head, but also a new name. now it is the ministry of culture and strategic communications of ukraine. tochytsky staff diplomat, a very experienced specialist who engaged, in particular, in cultural diplomacy. i see further strengthening of the ministry in the international work of broadcasting ukrainian narratives abroad. i am now quoting evgenia kravchuk. people's deputy, deputy chairman of the parliamentary committee on humanitarian and information policy, member of the permanent delegation to the people's republic of ukraine. it emphasizes the importance of strategic communications. outwardly, and we in our ether will allow ourselves to emphasize the necessity, but in fact the issue is of an external nature, it is also
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important, because russia is working against ukraine, including outside the borders of ukraine, and russia is working here with our citizens outside the borders of the country, why is it also important that we also maintain informational communication with our citizens, because very often in... ukrainians who went abroad, who were forced to leave ukraine because of the war, because of all the things that russia is doing today, they very often fall under this russian propaganda already there, which works even more effectively there than here , because there, relatively speaking, there are russians there, there are russians there cultural centers, there is russian cinema, by the way, about cinema. in fact, it’s simple, just nonsense, just an abnormality, which we would also like to talk about at the venice
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film festival, a film about russian invaders was shown, which was financed by canada, by the way, and this film, that is, it is full of trash, and actually this film is russians , the russians are at war, he is called, he actually justifies the russian... the soldier justifies the allegedly unfortunate mobilized boys who have to go to war there with old equipment, who have to fight there, but in fact, we understand that this entire russian people and all these russian boys, russians at war, they are the component of the war against ukraine, and they are the ones who are currently on the screens, by the way, we are seeing footage from this so -called film. yes, i say once again, which is designed to actually blur reality, justify russia, justify
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terrorism, justify murders, and i emphasize once again, this film is shown at the venice film festival, and in particular, the ambassador of ukraine to italy, yaroslav melnyk, condemned the showing of the film russians at war, russian director anastasia trofimova and urged the organizers not to allow russian propaganda. mr. melnyk stated that this is a film of sympathy for the aggressor with a parallel devaluation of the victim of the aggressor, despite the thousands of ukrainian lives lost and millions maimed by the russians, the diplomat emphasized in his letter, and in particular , people's deputies of ukraine and ukrainian cultural figures have already addressed the venice festival , i hope that the state authorities have also already applied and there will be some reaction, but less so... and we, we we are witnessing the renaissance of russian culture, the return of russian culture after this
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so-called cancellation in 2022, i have also repeatedly read commentators from various foreign countries, ukrainians living abroad, who said that there is more and more russian literature on the bookshelves, the ukrainian topic recedes more and more into the background, well, khrystyna, how do you characterize this, this whole horror, which is actually happening to the information and cultural space in the world? well, returning to the specific topic a little of the film and the venice film festival, i don’t like it at all, but right now i’m acting as follows: i haven’t watched it, but i condemn it, if i watch it, you understand, i’ll go over the principles and the important things that you and i are actually discussing here in the studio this is trafimova, a russian documentarian who worked for, if i'm not mistaken, rasha today, she created something for them there, supposedly, and it's quite, it's
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so funny how much they are, excuse me, almost the eyes of the world and even sometimes to us, everything god's dew, as they say, it's in the official trailer of the tape published on youtube, actually shows a fragment in which he says, i ride my fear and risk on my own without any permission from the ministry of defense a little secretly from them, a little secretly from them, ukrainian intelligence may appear among the russian military, this the only ones who can appear a little secretly from the russian military in their riots, i'm sorry, it's hard to imagine that a documentarian, and a guilty one, and a visible one, would visit the film festival there with a claim. secretly, but without knowledge at all of the russian leadership of the ministry of defense, it's really funny, well, it's really funny, but what it shows, i don't
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understand. the effect they want to achieve is, here is the final effect, the cancellation of the canceling, which is supposedly happening, but it seems to be not happening, and this is an attempt to show that ordinary russians supposedly do not like this war against ukraine very much, but they are people of war , the military, i'm sorry, they just follow orders, but then the question remains open, who are they, i'm sorry? herd or still citizens of the country that has it some kind of constitution, which, in principle, somewhere there even wrote down human rights in its concept, although, of course, it does not follow these rules. in a word, i have a lot of questions, er, she wanted to show quite ordinary people, says trofimova, afp agency, but i think it's important to get caught because we actually
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demonize very often. it seems to me that we demonize the russian military, in what sense, we call them non-humans, it is important for us to actually speak, they are people, ordinary people who just they love to kill ukrainians, and this is exactly the worst thing that can happen in this world, i think. well, the new week ends its work on this week we already have the results of the survey, let's see now if you even listen to... sometimes russian music, yes 11%, no, 89%, thank you for voting , thank you for actually talking, calling the way you think, in fact, we'll be saying goodbye until next monday, we'll be following all the developments throughout the current week and see you in exactly a week, goodbye and hold on. healthy joints
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