is it a coincidence or a deliberate provocation? trump took offense at putin and proposed a new plan to end the war, but will it work. well, at the venice film festival , a film was presented that whitewashes the russian military. how did it even happen? we talk about this at svoboda life. my name is sashko shevchenko, we are starting. this weekend, russian drones fell in two nato countries, latvia and romania. and this is not the first time. today we will try to figure out whether such incidents are accidental or deliberate provocations on the part of moscow. but about everything in order. so, on saturday, september 7 , a russian military drone crashed in the east of latvia. the local publication deelfi, citing the country's ministry of defense, writes that a russian drone flew into the airspace from belarus. the investigation is still underway, but according to preliminary information from experts, the drone did not have a specific purpose to fly to latvia. such cases. on the eastern

flank of nato, they are becoming more and more frequent - said latvian president edgars rinkevičs. we are in close contact with our allies. the number of such incidents is increasing flanks of nato, and we must solve them together. and romania's airspace was violated by two russian drones at once, and f-16 fighter jets were even raised to intercept them, as the romanian ministry of defense said. according to their information, one of the uavs allegedly left. the territory of the country in the direction of ukraine. another could fall already on the territory of romania. the ministry of defense of the country said that they are checking the places where it could have fallen. and although the authorities of romania sent a warning to residents of border counties about the danger of drones falling. the first about the incident was reported to the ukrainian air force. romanian oppositionist elena lasconi drew attention to this and also criticized the romanian authorities for the fact that bucharest still cannot shoot down drones. which

violate the airspace of the country. it is absolutely outrageous to learn more from the ukrainians than from the romanian authorities. in the spring, the head of the army asked us to amend the legislation so that we could shoot down drones that enter our territory. mr. prime minister chalaku, you control 60% of the parliament. are you going to do something with this do? does the president of the senate, general chuke, have anything to say or is he silenced by his boss, president klaus iohannis. well , the authorities of romania previously stated that it is necessary to change four laws in order to allow the downing of russian aerial objects, which, in particular , cross the airspace of this nato country. i also want to say now that recently the adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine mykhailo podolyak also commented on this report about russian drones that crossed the air border of ukraine and nato, and he said that this is how the reaction of these countries speaks. people in the kremlin that

there will be no consequences for such incidents in the future. so, let's talk about it further. as i have already mentioned, such incidents are not uncommon. previously, russian missiles and uavs also flew into the territory of poland and other nato countries. and it seems that the russian military, if not intentionally allowing its drones to enter nato airspace, is at least not doing enough to prevent it. what could this mean? russia deliberately provokes. nato or she wants to demonstrate the weakness of the alliance and could ukraine's partners react more harshly to such incidents? we talk about this further with the expert of the center for defense strategies oleksandr khara. good evening. good evening. so, the president of latvia says that it seems like random flights of russian missiles and uavs on nato territory have become more frequent. is it really so? yes, of course. indeed, well, i would say that the issue is not only about missiles and drones... the issue

is that there have been murders on the territory of nato member states, including in germany, recently we saw a big exchange between the united states of america and the russian federation , and there one of the killers of the opposition chechen leader was replaced by this person, also these acts of sabotage, this and the blowing up of ammunition warehouses, this is an attempt to... that means other acts of sabotage, i'm not talking about information and propaganda work, subversive activities, that is, in principle , the russian federation is waging a hybrid war against nato member countries, and they are not willingly or adequately responding to it. the second point, you know, if we're talking about this one case, there may be technical issues here, whether there were means to shoot down these drones, we know that the russians. they are

constantly improvising, constantly looking for the possibility of bypassing the air defense systems of ukraine, increasing, let's say, the height at which they are. fly, so there is a technical question here, you also mentioned the legal one, but the most important thing, it seems to me, is something in a different plane: russian aggression against ukraine is also the destruction of ukrainian statehood, the ukrainian nation, well, that is, a genocidal war at our level, but also that and war against the west, and the most important thing is russia's attempt to undermine the unity of nato member countries, to show and the inability to show that the fifth article of the washington treaty, even the fourth article on consultations, security , it does not work, and actually i am considering all of these, so airstrikes and all these terrorist attacks on the territory of european countries exclusively in the context of this war against nato, in order to show that there are no granted, reinforced concrete guarantees of the fifth article, and

that is precisely why it is better to look for some kind of compromise with russia, and of course at the expense of of ukraine. mr. oleksandr, before we continue, i just want to... clarify, you exclude that such incidents, when drones enter the territory of a nato country, then turn around, fall back into the airspace of ukraine, as the representatives themselves say about it the ministry of defense of latvia, in particular, that this, you rule out that it was accidental, well, you know, if there were half a cone, relatively speaking, as , for example, when the belt was beaten, and it is clear that in order to enter our port. .. it was necessary to violate the airspace romania, there was one story, and this has become an absolute norm, i want to remind you that mr. erdoğan made a very important decision when a russian plane was shot down, which violated the airspace of turkey again, he warned and then actually shot down the plane and there were

very positive consequences. after that , russian planes did not violate the airspace of turkey, i think that after not only these... missiles or drones that violate the airspace of nato member countries in europe are shot down, but also other measures, it can be a set of measures , starting from the demarche diplomatic, that is, the summoning of the ambassador of the russian federation to a country and a note of protest to him, we know that the russian ambassador was summoned to latvia, the expulsion, the expulsion of russian spies and under diplomatic cover and hidden agents, so-called illegals, these and other measures which. .. well , in fact, people in the kremlin can sober up a little, and of course, this is the strengthening of ukrainian air defense, because now we are the shield of nato member countries, in fact we are fulfilling the fifth article of the washington treaty, unfortunately, we simply do not have enough strength and means

in order to shoot down everything that flies over our heads or the territory of our partner countries, so the solution is that we do not destroy the planes themselves. not themselves, more precisely, not missiles, not drones, but destroyed the bases from which they are launched, russian planes, russian ground installations and russian ships, this is the only solution to this problem, well, you know, in an adult way, mr. alexander, but here as of now, how can you assess the reaction of nato countries to these incidents, they happened already at the weekend, here is her deputy adviser, excuse me, adviser to the head of the office of the president. mykhailo podelyak says that the lack of this reaction already demonstrates to the kremlin that there will be no consequences in the future. at the moment, do you think that the reaction of the nato countries was weak? absolutely, during the cold war, the western countries were actually ready to start a nuclear war, in

case of any provocations and attempts to capture, for example, west berlin, at that time it was the hottest spot, and every day the american... and other western military monitored any provocation from the side of the soviet union, its satellites, and this was a guarantee that, well, actually there would be no third world war, that the soviet leadership understood that there was an adequate reaction, and actually there is no need to go further, because you know, everything is absolutely clear with russia, it is on a rampage behaves, does not see any adequate reaction and believes that this is the norm, the new normality, and from this position continues to go deeper. whether it's territories or stretching the red lines of other countries, so i think there was no adequate reaction. and how is that at all it turns out that romania cannot shoot down even a uav, if not on the territory of ukraine, on the territory of romania. and how to understand it? does this

literally mean that a russian drone can hit a building in romania, causing casualties, and the romanian air defense system will not be able to shoot it down? did i get it wrong? well, i don't know. from a technical point of view, again, of course, any drone can be shot down with a patriot missile, but a patriot missile costs 4 million, and a drone costs 30 00, relatively speaking, of course, that... there is no economy here not in favor of the use of such systems, that is, there are technical issues, the second issue is actually a political issue, because we see that in washington they do not want any actions in the russian federation to be perceived more than helping us now, as a provocation or direct confrontation with the russian federation, and that is precisely why they limit the actions of their allies in europe, and precisely why they... do not allow to strike at russian missiles and drones, or to block the

airspace over the western part of ukraine or any part of ukraine, that is, in principle there are and the political reluctance to provoke, as it seems in washington, such a direct conflict, although it is pointless, since there is neither a drone nor a missile, there is no russian pilot there, and their downing will definitely not be a sign of a direct conflict. the downing of hundreds of drones and missiles over israel that iran directly launched did not lead to a conflict between the united states, iran or the united states' allies in the region, the same, saudi arabia and others, so i think it's just a problem of perception, a problem fears irrational, the problem is the limitation of these red lines in the minds of washington. mr. oleksandr, what do you think, whether bucharest or warsaw could show some

independence from voices from washington and singly praise the decision to shoot down such targets, if it is actually about crossing the air border with nato. well, first of all, you know, in our security agreement with poland there was such a clause that poland-ukraine will consider the possibility of actually providing such a service, so to speak, covering the ukrainian. heaven, but it is clear that it is without it is impossible for washington to decide, although i do not rule out that it is the poles who can start to shoot down, because you know that, well, from the very beginning of the large-scale invasion at their own peril and risk, they began to help us, and they very often their reaction is very sharp, and it is clear that they will be absolutely right in the legal, political, any plane, if they start doing it, i hope... that they will start doing it, and it will be another step, another, so, yes,

confirmation, or rather, that , that all these russian red lines, they are very flexible, and you know, they can be stretched all the way to moscow. mr. oleksandr, the very end, we still have half a minute, literally, i ask you to comment on the news that iran has probably transferred fatih 360 ballistic missiles to russia, should we expect any reaction from the west? i think that there will be rhetoric again, there will be calls not to...escalate, and of course there will be calls from the united states to its allies to provide ukraine with air defense systems, other things, because a military operation will definitely not be carried out against iran, it was not carried out even for own most important ally in region of israel, and of course, on the contrary, now the united states is trying to find an understanding and some kind of cease-fire in israel and to find some kind of political one. formula, because they are afraid of this conflict with iran, so i think we can only hope that

the israeli air force can strike at the production of missiles and drones in iran itself. i thank you very much for joining our broadcast, we were contacted by an expert of the center for defense strategies oleksandr khara, and in the meantime , russia's ground offensive is also continuing, on pokrovsky russian direction. the army is actively trying to advance deep into the defense of ukrainian forces. to strengthen the defense forces , the 15th brigade of the national guard of ukraine karadakh was sent in this direction. the gunners of this unit support the infantrymen on the front line with the american m-101 gun. during the stay of the radio liberty film crew , the fighters had to use this weapon several times in a short period of time. report by maryan kushnyar from near pokrovsk.

work, ears, ears, armata. now the 15th national guard brigade ukraine is firing at the russian army, this artillery is just covering the infantry, there is enough work now, enough, what is

the intensity of such work, such a battle, and the intensity is very high, it is afraid of falling. we use it a lot, so what is it connected with, they tell you where you are firing, at whom, for what, only later, when we return to duty at the ksp, we will find out where they shot, how they shot, what they were shooting at, and so on artillery does not see when, where, where it is working, your point of view, why they were leading now fire, by como, infantry, infantry, infantry more than anything , because when the... at night, the fact that they are shooting in our cities, where there are peaceful people, this is more than anything, by the way, when they found out about poltava, lviv, they did not want to go there, i do not know what they wanted there, and prokhmadit, when, and when about

others have also heard ohmadite, but a lot, it is almost every day... during the day you read there, then in kharkiv, then in poltava, then in kamyshuvakh, then again we have flown in somewhere, come down a little, the threat of cabals, who will be the couch, on this, yes, this is a very difficult direction now, this is where we have not been, well, it is very... now it is difficult, we are working, we will fight back, i know that the russian wills in this direction they are very actively trying to storm the settlements there, but lately they are saying that it was karadak who stopped them in the servidov direction, so you can say that it is true or not, correct me there, well, i don't know, we stopped them them, well, if we work, yes, we stop them, and there, well, if only

there are many brigades working here, so as they say we have one idea, that's why... we all work well, there are constant meat assaults from the russians, 15 people to 20, four groups, and they press, well, they press with meat, we can say, there is not a lot of equipment either, although before that we already destroyed two armored personnel carriers, well, they are mainly pressing with infantry, well, we stop it as it burns.

german chancellor olaf scholz is allegedly preparing a peace plan under the terms of which russia can retain the captured ukrainian

territories. about it with reference to my own the italian newspaper la repubblica writes the sources. according to the publication. scholz was allegedly stunned by the results of local elections in the thuringian state of taxonia, where the far-right alternative for germany party triumphed. and that's why, as the source of the publication notes, scholz, fearing defeat now in brandenburg, decided to play the ukrainian card in order to get out of the impasse. end of quote. german chancellor scholz himself has not yet commented on la repubblica's publication, so we cannot confirm whether such a peace plan is really being developed. news. about that chancellor scholz is working on his own vision of ending the war in ukraine appeared shortly after scholz in an interview with the zdf tv channel stated the need to achieve peace as soon as possible. in ukraine, as well as the fact that representatives of russia should be present at the second peace summit held by ukraine. at the same time, kyiv has its own vision of victory.

the day before, president volodymyr zelenskyi announced that ukraine will present its victory plan to the current us president joe biden, as well as presidential candidates donald trump and kamala harris. we constantly work with representatives of both parties in the united states of america. on the sidelines of the forum in italy , he held a meeting with the delegation of the us congress, they talked, in particular, about the victory plan for ukraine, about certain details of it, and we will fully present all the steps to the president of the united states, biden and both presidential candidates, trump and garis. but donald trump, the candidate for the presidency of the usa from the republicans, seems to have his own vision of how to end the war in... ukraine, speaking in new york economic club, trump once again declared that he will be able to end the war in ukraine even before he officially takes office. but this time he revealed the details of his

plan, namely: trump is going to crash global oil prices. let's listen. for putin, war is possible with oil at $100 per barrel, but at $40 per barrel, he will not be able to fight. so we're going to go back to smart governance. on september 7, he said that he was allegedly very offended by vladimir putin because he supported kamala's candidacy garis in the upcoming us presidential election, although trump later admitted that putin did not do it seriously. at kamalo, i was really offended by that, i wonder why he supported kamala, no, he's a chess player, i'm supposed to be a congressman, should i be upset about that, huh, did he do

it with a smile, i think he must have done it with a smile, i don't know who the hell knows, no one does, they are somewhere 19 steps ahead of russia, no one in history has been tougher on russia than trump, and the person who knows this better than anyone is president vladimir putin. and what plan can kamala garis have for ukraine, and why is the defeat of ukraine not desirable for trump? kurt volker, the former us special representative for ukraine, said this in an interview with rfe/rl. let's listen. it was trump who provided political cover to mike johnson, the speaker of the house of representatives, so that mike could bring the aid package to a vote. 70 members of the house of representatives voted for the package, indicating strong bipartisan support. when margery taylor green threatened to remove the speaker, trump again stood up for the speaker and said:

margery, calm down. so he has already taken a position that he does not want ukraine to be defeated. i think the experience of watching the disaster in afghanistan when biden was president is a signal for trump as well. he does not want this to happen under his rule. so, he won't want to. to let ukraine become his afghanistan, so i don't think he will let that happen. i see the difference in the fact that under the presidency of garis, we will probably continue to provide aid to ukraine as additional appropriations, just as we have already done. if it will be the trump administration, i am more convinced that he will provide assistance to ukraine under the lendlease program, not with taxpayers' money, but rather with permits. to lend money to ukraine to buy as much as they need, without restrictions, on the condition that they buy american defense goods. it seems to me that this is the more

likely path that trump would take. i think that if elected, he will most likely do just that. so, can trump's plan work, and is it coming together a vision with a victory plan that zelensky will present in the united states. we will talk about this later. vladyslav faraponov, head of the institute of american studies and analyst of internews ukraine, is in touch with us. good evening. good evening, i greet you. so, let's talk about trump's peace plan. he seems to have explained for the first time exactly what he is going to do, and his intention to end the war in 24 hours. can the collapse of oil prices, as trump says, really stop the war, that is, russia simply will not be able to continue waging it. i will say that i am not a strong expert. in energy, probably, in principle, colleagues who deal with this issue know better, but uh, let's put it this way, i don't think that if everything was so

simple, then the administration... biden would not take this opportunity, for the administration biden, too, it is very important to end the war quickly enough or as quickly as possible, that is, i really agree with what mr. walker said that afghanistan, of course, is such a, let's say not very positive page in the history of the united states, and no president, i i think that not only trump, but also anyone who follows, would not like ... a repetition of this very withdrawal from afghanistan, well, but this, again, is a deeper question, in general, american involvement, yes, in and in such a form as it was in afghanistan. i would say that we still haven't heard any specifics from trump about exactly how he 's going to put pressure on putin, because it's one thing to say you want to end the war in 24 hours, it's another thing to actually do it,

and unfortunately , so far... except for this somewhat magical one, even i would say a lot the unrealistic idea that if zelensky does not want a change, then there will be no american aid, if trump becomes president, and if putin, then there will be many times more aid. i have a question in connection with this, and i do not really understand why the ukrainian authorities do not ask the question, or at least do not signal that they voice it, in particular to trump and him. team, this is a question of what was said and written in the pages of the new york times, already a candidate for vice president from the republican party, jady vance, who said that to help or not to help ukraine is a matter of fact, in fact it is not possible to ask the question like that, anyway, america cannot help ukraine as much as it is necessary to turn the tide of the war, well, it was in april, he spoke about it even before

voting for e. the next stage of aid for ukraine, but nevertheless, that is, he says that conditionally patriots, for example, ukraine needs six times more than the whole of america produces there in a year, the same applies to shells and other weapons there, that is, i have in connection with this the question is, how do we then correlate these two theses and , in general, what are we going to do and prove there to the trump team and so on, in principle, i don't want it to look as if... there i say that it is not necessary to talk with trump, in fact, it is necessary, because trump is not just a candidate for the presidency, he is also the leader of the republican party, these are the shots that your colleagues are showing now, they are precisely the shots from the republican convention, and at this, at this convention, in fact, trump was not elected, trump was crowned, and now he is even more entrenched as the leader of the republican party vladyslav, i apologize for interrupting you,

but strictly speaking, then what does this... mean, if the republican party, which is headed, as you say, by donald trump, believes that it is impossible to help ukraine there, yes , in order to somehow strategically change the situation on the battlefield, in general, how does this coexist with the fact that trump would not want a repeat of the withdrawal of troops from afghanistan, a similar situation when he is likely to become president, then what he proposes then and how he can then act if... really the situation that's right, well, there is such a thing, i will say that he really dreams of the idea to stop the third world war, he says this himself personally, and it is spelled out in the so-called project 2025, a conservative vision of almost 900 pages, which was presented by conservative organizations, in fact for trump, please take donald and use him, and of course he will

do everything to prevent nuclear ... lation, and again, this is said about the third world war in the context of russia and ukraine, not in the context of china , taiwan or some other conflict, namely with regard to russia and ukraine, therefore, in principle, i emphasize this precisely with regard to the pressure on putin, because there are indeed reasons to believe that, let's say, even those who, let's say, have an adequate or normal attitude towards trump in the 24th year, have reasons to believe , that... really territorial, in particular, compromises can be proposed as part of an agreement with putin, maybe with possible, let’s say, trump’s mediation, that is, there is such a possibility, at least it logically follows from those not very logical statements of trump, let’s say, well that's exactly what you mentioned about the concept of a certain peace plan, which provides for the relinquishment of territory by ukraine,

and... today it became known, at least from the notification.