glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, wait a minute, we are fine now and everything is fine. at the beginning of our conversation, i would still like to focus on the situation on the front line since the last time we spoke to you, mr. oleksiy, and our colleagues spoke to you. these conversations were full, well , in fact, of great anxiety for pokrovsk, for turetsk, new york, there are many of us. talked about what the russians are resorting to in the kupyan direction, for example, and now, now more and more, well, i would say, encouraging information about a possible movement in in the direction of stabilization by the defense forces, almost from all directions, how do you see the situation this time, on this day, please, what commander syrskyi says, he should be trusted in an interview with cnn, that in the pokrovsk direction of advancement is not... . was not by a single

centimeter, as he said, in recent days, the enemy is advancing in other directions, but not so fast, and well, it is north, south of pokrovsk, there are still battles there, but for now, well, we can assume that we will soon stop them there too, why can you think so, well first of all, because the potential that the russians prepared for offensive operations is being exhausted, the potential should not be understood exclusively as the number of people or the number of artillery systems or shells there, any offensive operation, it is being prepared, a lot of components are prescribed there, and what has been prepared is running out, it is not possible that people just ran out, people can be added, but in order to prepare an offensive operation, a lot needs to be done, how the units interact with each other, how the aviation interacts, what are the logistics and what are the things that are all that, that, that, that , that, that... a large relative or not relative

number of people can be a military unit that takes offensive actions. offensive actions are not easy, many of us ran forward, we will be there , it will give everyone a nightmare, no, what they were preparing ended up so that, well, any army in the world is like this, it happens, the offensive operation ends , it cannot last indefinitely, the army stops and can, for example, prepare for the next offensive actions, precisely preparing, it is not means that... to bring in people or to bring in tanks or to bring in artillery, that's what it should be, but it's extremely insufficient, that 's why they're sorry that it's so long, because i hear many times that, well, they're going to add more people , they will continue to advance, no, they won’t, they won’t, it’s not solved that easily, if it were that simple, why did they prepare for these offensive operations for six months, well, it’s such a question from a question to an answer, that’s why there were calculations that somewhere before end of september it

will end, well it has begun to end a little earlier, because, among other things, they did not add there what they planned, did not withdraw from the pokrovsky direction, and did not add those reserves that they planned to add, the reserves went to kurshchyna, and besides, we introduced our reserves, which did not less so in new york, the 12th brigade of the national guard, well , my favorite, formation and myself from the national guard of course. on from kulchysky, but, well, this is a very good, very good unit, and uh, well, many may not like it, but reserves are added at the moment when it seems that we can no longer to keep the defense, and when it seems that the enemy, and it seems to the enemy that now he has already achieved the results for which he planned, well, you can even remember the movies, remember the movies about the second world war, even... . soviet movies, well

, that’s how it’s done, you may not like it very much, because the units that are on the defensive have to bear, unfortunately, losses, have to leave with battles, why not immediately, well, because then it won’t have an effect not for strategic effect, tactical advantage can, but strategic no, right now is the time when it is necessary to join the reserves, we see it in new york and in, i am sure, the pokrovsky, selidov direction, well... ughledarsk, well, where, where, where, through, our reserves will begin to join, and the russians also understand this very well, that first of all , they run out of the enthusiasm, the charge they had, eh, and they are immediately there, where something has advanced, they try to build fortifications behind them, because they understand that there will be a retaliatory blow , well, it is as we can see, well, i can’t help but say it right away, i don’t know how much time i have there is still on er, to ask for it, we ask you, er,

the collapse of the front did not happen, i.e., all the panic scenarios did not come true, it is very important for us now... not to let the enemy within 3-4 km of pokrovsk or mirnograd, because this the distance of a mortar shot, and the artillery systems, you can do counter-battery combat there, it is much more difficult with mortars, you can throw them with them, well, the city is very dense, and there are powerful fortifications, even the civilian population joined in digging something there, building something there , to do on fortifications, fortifications were necessary to provide a bond of taba. that it's not just digging a trench, but anyway, you don't want to let it into the suburbs, so that there is no distance for a minute shot, and that's what i started with, that's an additional, so to speak , answer without question, remember, i'm addressing our viewers, remember those

people who told you a week ago, two weeks ago that the front line was breached, our foreign troops, that everything is bad, collapse, everything is bad, the commander... is not like that, the troops are not like that, some kind of door is opening to the dnipro, well dnipropetrovsk former and so on, i for what am i saying, just remember who said it, well, we don't remember well what happened three months or two ago, without saying that two or three years ago, who did what, who said what, well, nothing, there will be time let's remember, but what happened a week or two ago, well, i'm sure that our short-term memory works well. just remember who said it, in order to further draw conclusions for yourself, whether it makes sense to listen to these people, so that they will tell today or tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, remember who said that everything is lost, well, you see, nothing is lost, as it turned out, well, that's it, i'm sorry that

i'm a little sideways, but let's go anyway, let's go, mr., mr. oleksiy, you know, one more topic, which... in fact, how did the last few snowballs fall on us days, well, it is already a traditional topic that russian drones fly into nato territory, yes, romania is already a tradition, relatively speaking, but in fact we see that the russians are moving further, here, for example, if we are talking about romania, then they once again declared that the russian drone had violated their airspace, and in... search for another wreckage was found today, but in addition to this, drones began to fall on the territory of the baltic countries, so in fact in lithuania,

in lithuania, including , a drone was recorded of lithuanian affairs, gabrielus. pergis, he said that nothing should fall on ukraine or latvia or anywhere on nato territory, but this is the new reality that our inaction has led to. well, and besides that, now we see this quote on screens, yes. in addition, the airspace in sweden, in the capital stockholm, namely in the area of ​​the airport, was also closed today. it is not yet known there, no, no, they did not qualify, they did not classify what it was, what kind of drones they were, but we can also assume that in theory they could be russian drones, that is, this range is, unfortunately, expanding, mr. oleksiy,

the question for you is why russia is doing this right now, before it did not allow aggressive drones, at least politics, and... the second question is how it will react anyway is that what nato is for? well, they, they, they are provoking, for the russians, it would be very good if the war went beyond the borders of our country, well, the russian federation, if the war started in other places, then, i am sure, the help to us, well, may decrease, and attention to us may not be the same as now, but if there is a war somewhere in europe or somewhere far away. in the east or in the middle east, well , this is what the russians want, you know, we really like the reaction of our baltic friends, they blame the leadership of the nato bloc for inactivity and such a sluggish reaction, and the answer he gave, maybe stoltenberg, maybe not, someone, someone from

nato said, i think it's stoltenberg, i might confuse it a little, that there are no signs, in my opinion, stoltonka. yantsek, that there are no signs that this drone that flew into the baltic country, a nato member country, that it was a deliberate action by the russian federation, that this drone could only be blocked, you know. with such a reaction and with such explanations, well then, well, let the rocket fly, for example, boronebozh in some city in some countries nato is desirable, well, not desirable, but if it is, for example, not poland, romania, or the baltic countries, but something like that, well, we know, there is somewhere closer to western europe, i don’t want to say that something will fly to you in conversation, that we are provoking something here, then... there will be a reaction somewhere, somewhere there, that there are no

signs that this missile was deliberately launched, it just went off by itself, a firecracker, well, that's how the down darwin award exploded, well down, well it's about the same, you know, i don't know how to convince ours partners, the leadership of nato, it seems to me that it is necessary for the people, the citizens of these countries , to start pressing, as they say from below. it is unacceptable what they do and what they talk about, a simple question, i would like it if, well, i was also in lithuania, of course, and in poland, we talked there with those people who, well, not with those, not with the latvians, but with the lithuanians, and i would like one of our diplomats to ask the question whether it is possible to believe that in history lessons, some time after our victory, the history teacher will tell that well... oh in the 24th year of the country, nato members communicated

with each other and decided whether to shoot down air targets over their own territory, missiles or drones, or not to shoot down, so that this would not lead to an escalation of the conflict. i am sure that the children who came to listen to such a teacher will say, you must be joking, it cannot be that a nato member country decides whether to shoot down a missile that is not flying in their direction, but has flown into their territory. we don't believe you, you read something... wrongly some summaries and this cannot happen, because this can never happen, it seems to me that such arguments can be made, i don’t know what other arguments to give, because it is to think whether to shoot down or not to shoot down a missile that flies into your territory, a fighter that does not fit, excuse me, a russian pilot, well that is, if some plane had gotten lost there, theoretically, i understand what they should have planned, it would also have gotten lost in the square, that is possible, yes, well, let's see, let's see what turkey does, when the russian one... just flew into their a pilot, and they didn't even start negotiations with him, that you were wrong, come on

you turn around a little, they just banged and destroyed and everything, and you start, what are you, why are you so scared, we have been fighting with this russian second army of the world for three years, we give a damn, they can't do anything with us in the grand scheme of things, yes, they are difficult for us, they help us with weapons, but we are not afraid of them, you are much more powerful from an economic point of view... and from a military point of view, well , hardly from a military point of view, i believe that the ukrainian army is the strongest army in europe, it is like minimum, and you continue to be afraid, well, that's a good rhetorical question, sir oleksiy, i would like to cite a consolidated analysis from oleksandr kovalenko from the information resistance, he simply calculated that in the last time, during literally one day, the russian occupation forces used up to fifty front-line bombers. su-34 to 20 su-25 attack aircraft, at least 10 k-52 attack helicopters, four

multipurpose mi-8s, and in total about 50 drops, cabs, 25 launches of other guided and unguided air missiles, and all these, and all these planes and helicopters took off from airfields which are at a distance from our border with less than 300 km, so, mr. oleksandr, and i share his indignation here a little, he does not understand what, what the pentagon, the national security adviser, he is not lying, he is just, they, they are afraid and they are already looping, yes, they sweat, you know, when the last phase of sweating, when some poetic metaphors like that begin, our weapon is not there... well, you already know that, well, it's kindergarten starting,

but about the fact that what said kirby that 90% of russian aviation is out of bounds impression of their missiles, well, he told the whole truth, only he meant 90% of all russian aviation, and not that, and not that directly involved in the russian-ukrainian war, because russia can and, well, that’s almost certain, in there are more of them, relatively speaking. different planes, about 300 were involved in the russian-ukrainian war, that is, about 10%, that is, 90% of the planes are away from the russian-ukrainian war, but but we say... but just what are your numbers, what exactly are these 10, 300 planes, they rise and make these attacks that pro what an analyst the guy did, well , he did the right thing and he calculated everything clearly, so we don't say that we want to destroy all the russian aviation that is in the far east, there is someone there to destroy it, there is china, there is south korea ,

there is eventually australia with japan, there they will deal with them. if something like this happens somewhere, well, china too, of course, we also understand, it has had claims since 853, if i am not mistaken, there are certain agreements and certain territory china wants to return, at least we have already heard talk about it, we we want to destroy the aviation that is at the distance that your missile can reach, and if you want to make fools of us, then let's sit down, look at the analytics, and let's do it, well, there's no need to hide anything here. secrets, let's sit down so that everyone can see, to see in europe, here we show where their lithuanians are located, we show where they take off from and in what number, and then kirpis comes out to start and does not know who else will come out there and start will tell, well, it's not that, then 90, well, let it be that you know such a talk show, such that they are these

people who say otaku bullshit and such lies, that they get such a beating from the citizens. country, because there are people there, they, well, they won't tolerate it, you know, you make trouble out of us, well, okay, we understand that we are dependent on you, well, when you start making trouble, forgive your citizens, then i think that they will very quickly explain to you that they somehow do not disagree, but in the context of this, how do you comment on the fact that iran actually put, well, again according to the reports the wall street journal, from the report of the times, that is... we are receiving information from foreign sources that iran has actually delivered ballistic missiles to russia, that is, the posture is not posture we will really see now, but this, by the way, can also be characterized in the context of , what we are talking about with you, about the impossibility of striking with long-range weapons on the territory of russia, so, for example, but at

the same time, iran is quietly supplying alleged missiles to russia, by the way, we... recently a place of storage, but in the context of this the first question, if possible briefly, how much these missiles will be really dangerous for ukraine, at least for the ukrainian border, they will be dangerous, and the second question is whether the possibility of supplying more telecobian missiles is being considered, again in your opinion, let's say 400, 500, 600 km there, well, this is from olfiharfatex, i think is considered, well, first of all, iran argues for these deliveries by saying that the west supplies us with weapons, that they cannot supply weapons to russia, that is, the arguments, well , the difference is that we are defending ourselves, russia is aggressive, but that’s the way it is, well, not for that attention is drawn, it seems that such a war, which just like that started by itself, and

yet, the west supplies weapons to ukraine, which means that we can completely supply weapons, well, this is such a ... eastern trick, all this is sewn with white minutiae, how dangerous are these rockets ? yes, they are short-range, but they are high-precision, we, with short-range but high-precision missiles , nothing antoniv bridge, for example, these are important things, and why is it dangerous, it is dangerous from the point of view of the range of other missiles, the russians do mass attacks, well it stockets somewhere once a month, well, it can be calculated approximately how much they calculate, s300, but they are not very accurate, and in order to destroy something not far from the borders, from the demarcation line, you need to use the same iskanders, these are relatively accurate missiles, if other missiles that shoot accurately at a short distance,

the scandars can be used on the territory deep into our country, that is... an attack on some objects in the depths, well, deep into our country, can be more intensive, because they do not need to spend ballistics to the border, on the border, there are other ballistics there, that's why these missiles are dangerous, they are even more dangerous than those zurfikar tafatex that can be delivered, although i think that no one will deliver them, there is a certain problem with the launchers , there are few of them, there are missiles, but few installations, iran is unlikely to give missiles with launchers there, well, they are on wheels... but there are not many of them and they cannot be launched from other platforms from other places. mr. oleksiy, one more news of today: the next one is already the 17th, if i'm not mistaken, the package is from sweden, the swedish government in... provides its support to ukraine, in particular, we are talking about six combat boats kombat boa 90, manpads70, camouflage equipment for the previously

transferred equipment, many, many interesting things, but the most interesting thing, coming out from the official announcement, half of this swedish package will go to gripen spare parts, which in the future can be transferred to ukraine, let's just remind you, right? not bad planes, they are such partisan planes, they are called because they can land on an unprepared, well, remember about f-16, that there is some kind of super, duper, there should be a position strip, and these can sit there in the field, well, conditionally speaking, that is, they do not need it, and it is quite possible that we will get such targets more easily and quickly from sweden already from those missiles that sweden will give us, we will be here, how we will use them. air ground or air air, we decided it ourselves, well, these are fighters, but they will be used more, as i would say, more like stormtroopers, and above all, mr.

oleksiy, we are very grateful to you for joining us to the espresso tv channel, for your thoughts, your analysis, oleksiy hetman, military analyst, reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, russian-ukrainian participant, yes, i'm sorry, but everything is wonderful, thank you, mr. oleksiy, thank you so much. well, moving on and reminding you about our survey, today we ask you if you listen to russian music at least sometimes, if so, please dial absolutely free 0800 211 381, if you think not, 0800-211-382 , from your smartphones, phones, i remind you once again, all the sounds are there completely anonymous, free of charge. and we will definitely talk about it with you, it is really important for us to understand, you know, the trend, so we ask you to be honest, we understand that the answers may be different,

but we emphasize once again that this is an anonymous survey. let's go further. ihor lytvyn, co-chairman of the ukrainian-chinese business council, former ambassador of ukraine to china, in 99-2001, is now in direct contact, mr. ihor, we... are glad to welcome you to the espresso airwaves. good evening. good evening. well, probably, let's start with the hopes of the countries of the group seven the fact that china and india can play their own, you know, such a role in the settlement of the conflict between russia and ukraine. in particular , italian prime minister george meloni after meeting with the president of ukraine. at the forum , amrozetti also said that china and india could act as mediators. in the negotiations on the end of the war in ukraine, let's listen to it. i believe that china and india should play a role in resolving the conflict.

the only thing that cannot happen is to think that the conflict can be resolved by leaving ukraine. well, actually, mr. igor, do you now see the desire and resources. on the part of the global south to play the role of settling the conflict, the conflict that the russian federation unleashed against ukraine, this is a bloody war that has actually lasted not three years, but 10, so can the global south, in a healthy sense of the word, join the settlement? i think that it can and i think that it should, but there are some signs that it can be there ... practical meaning, i don't see it, because china and india, they talk

a lot, put forward plans for settlement this, as they call the conflict, although really it is the same, the same conflict in quotation marks, as the nanking massacre in 1937, when the japanese zagardniks killed from 300 to 500 thousand civilians, well, we don't call it a conflict, although they call it, i don't believe that a-ah china or india, they are determined to become the real mediators in stopping eh this bloody war, unleashed unmotivated, eh... by the russian federation, or rather, the russian federation against ukraine, you can say a lot, plan you can put forward a lot of things, talk about

diplomacy, as he says... and dialogue, you can appeal, as china does, to all parties, he appeals to stop the escalation of the war, but no one says: wait, the aggressor must stop his aggression and to get out of the territory of a sovereign state, given that this is an absolute violation of the un charter. from whom does it mean the current member of the un security council, so trying to make russia stop its aggression against ukraine, ukraine is one thing, and real actions are another, well, if you take, let's say, sydzenpiner, yes, you can add him to the asset. the fact that

back in march of last year, when he visited russia on an official visit for the first time since his appointment as the third president of the prc, and the fact that in a joint political statement he outlined china's vision regarding the use, or the threat of use, of nuclear weapons, especially against a non-nuclear state , and even he, when he arrived. not so long ago to france and heard that he was being urged to again use his influence in russia in order that the bloody aggression stopped, he said, "lord, i've already done everything possible and impossible," meaning precisely what concerns the threat of using nuclear weapons, so my answer will be negative. ugh, if we

're talking. mr. igor, in general about sino-russian relations, many people, of course, accuse china of financing many russian projects, the economy actually feeds the russian economy, but at the same time, russian propagandists claim that china is reducing financial transactions in russia, particularly russian such alexy is a military propagandist. he complains that china continues to actively sabotage foreign trade with russia, putting russian exporters and importers in a difficult position. let's look at this quote now: sorry for the russian language, this is the original, but the problems have long been massive and avalanche-like, now we can say with confidence that china, under the pressure of the usa, is simply suffocating our economy - said this russian. in addition, let's

add information, the day before reuters reported that the russian raw materials companies started cash gaps, due to china's refusal to make payments, well, there are such things, and in particular, including putin invited a meeting with xi jinping to discuss russia's problems, in particular, in bank payments and gas construction. i am sending the power of siberia 2, but such information is received differently, mr. igor, how does this, mr. igor, correlate with this support of china, china, russia, and is china really now starting to at least lobby and at least try, as they say, to not directly support russia, to sit here on two chairs, be it please, let me start with... the claim

of the mass media that amid these, so payment difficulties, putin urgently requested a meeting with xi jinping, that is not true, forget it, that is not, therefore, correct information, because it is implied that putin is in a conversation with the vice president of china, khanzhenim said, taking into account ... the relevant norms of the protocol, that it would be good, because he would be happy to see in kazan in a month and a half, the head of the prc piner. of course, this is completely within the rules of the protocol, believe me, who organized, at least for president kuchma, six state visits, those countries that i managed as the head

of the administration, and... and the asian and african region.