there will be an incomprehensible object, it will be hammered, so the object, well, nothing, it flew, and when i looked at it, it disappeared right from my eyes, i took these jelly balls from lviv, we were traveling in a bus with volunteers from everyone shook all their property, and these balls traveled with us all the way, the war continues and... probably my next question to you will be difficult, very difficult, because it seems to me that i am no longer afraid of anything in this world, not even death i'm not afraid anymore, look, women and mothers are looking at you now, whose sons, thank god, are alive, or would you let your son go, knowing what would happen exactly like this, i didn't let him go, i did terrible things. what i didn't do, i

begged him, his company, where he works, he works as a business analyst, in a well-known american it company, he is engaged in banking, his salary was much more expensive than the 100,000 he received for nothing , there was much more, he knows languages ​​very well, he is an excellent specialist, his e-tishniks collected and bought everything for him so that... he had everything, everything is the best, that i am only, i am his restrained at the beginning of the war, he was still a schoolboy, then a freshman, he was eager for a great war, i didn’t just make it up, i even sinned by telling terrible illnesses about myself, i deceived him, and this time, well, how about you you can stop an adult boy, that i didn't tell him, that i didn't ask him, that i didn't beg him, he said: mom, one day

i will have children, maybe a second and a third, and these children will one day also be forced to go to war against moskal, if we do not finish this case now, we will give the children a lot bad, we will inherit the war, so the legacy is bad, that's what he thought. well, maybe it was also the wrong construction of the sentence, because really, how can you not let go of a real man when he accepted the thing and his wife did not let him go, we did not let him go, i understand those mothers who bury their sons, i understand them, i understand , i understand everyone, and people are afraid, and not everyone can, well , he was like that, brothers, as they said about him, he says, he is the guy with whom you can not talk about fishing or zhiguli, with whom you can talk about roman law, with which can... about

talk about all the world wars, about everything you want, he was an intellectual, he is, i will talk about him in the present tense, plus, this is the person who once, the guy said it verbatim, when we were in a terrible situation, and already it seemed that everything, we will not get out of here, mykhailo joked and cheered everyone up and laughed, and we, looking at him, were charged with this positivity, and it was easy for us. he emotionally held the whole team, and the second tells, says: we too said goodbye to life, here you are walking in the footsteps, and to help us, and we persevered, and we left, he went first, as a commander, the commander must go at the end, he went first and left last, and another one of his comrades said that mykhailo saved several dozen lives, that's how fast, he was coming to lviv with his wife mine, and... i am trying

to find free time and go to them in zaporizhzhia, and i also want to visit my parents , little banana, and maybe there are words that you would like to say to all wives and mothers today, there are words that i really want tell everyone, speak and love right now, don't put anything off for later, because then it might not be, say what you love, say what you write... say whatever you think is the best, never put it off for later, because then it may not happen. and i want to thank you and tell me the book, you can still order it, buy it, you can order the book anywhere on the internet, anywhere, just by typing the name lembertsyn do not cry, or my last name, the name olena cherninka, you can order it anywhere on the internet. and

you can also buy it in the store, in bookstores, cafes of the old lion, in the bookstore and in many others. olenka, i thank you for yours son thank you for this interview, that you agreed, and you know, i still believe that lemberg will return to us, we all believe, and that we will remember it, and that soon there will be our victory, thank you, thank you very much. vasyl zima's big broadcast, my name is vasyl zima, it's a big broadcast on the spresso tv channel, two hours of air time, two hours of your time, my colleagues and i will talk about the most important thing, two hours to learn about the war, about the military, the frontline component, serhii

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the current week, the most important events for ukraine and the world. this week was difficult for our country: lviv, kharkiv, poltava, sumy, donetsk region, many cities and villages of our country were under fire from the russian federation. many dead, dozens of people. we see such a fire and aerial escalation against our country, against... our society, of course, our people, so we will naturally talk now about the security situation, on behalf of the saturday political club, we express our condolences to all the relatives of the victims, to all ukrainians, to all to the citizens of ukraine who

suffered this week from the terrible and , i say again, terrible blows of the enemy. mr. vitaly, of course, let's start with this, let's start with this activation strikes, the intensification of russian terror, you and i already talked about this intensification last week, last saturday, because it started, if i'm not mistaken, last friday, then there was sumy, then there was kharkiv again, then lviv, poltava , well... we know all this, we see how every night unmanned aerial vehicles are launched over the territory of ukraine, almost non-stop. what does this indicate and why the enemy has become so active right now, in this period, because there were periods when there was some, well,

if you can call it, relative calm, but right now, the last, the last week, the last two weeks there, we are observing such... a staff escalation of violence against the citizens of our country, against the people who are currently on the territory of ukraine. well , i want to join the sympathies and say that i think there is nothing to discuss here, if we talk without pathos about such attacks, well , obviously, they were stockpiling enough missiles, when they realized that they had enough missiles and drones, they began to act on the destruction of infrastructure ukrainian, on intimidation of people. from the point of view of aggression - this is a perfectly clear logic, if you have enough missiles to carry out a professional combined attack that cannot be completely repulsed by the air defense system, the country you

are attacking, you carry out such an attack, if you do not have enough resources, you do not carry out such an attack, it seems to me that we have already forgotten that there was not much war in the first weeks there. not every hour reports about some kind of alarm, about missile attacks. the russians had a huge one the number of missiles from warehouses. during this time, they have a large number of... at least those like kinjak, like the iskanders, ugh, ugh, have actually depreciated, there are only those missiles that they can produce, about 30 missiles a month, this is not enough to paralyze the system air defense, ukraine, this system is still not enough, because it is impossible to destroy, say, daggers without patriots, it is not clear how the f16 will join here, it seems to me that they also do not work against such missiles, that is, here we need an extensive network

of patriot missiles, we don’t know where they are and where they aren’t, and we don’t have to know, but we can imagine from the impact of the daggers where there are more and where there are less, at least, yes, when i was in lviv, just there there was such a combined attack, and if in kyiv i could observe the... destruction of daggers there to the city, then in lviv i don't know what i observed, how far this attack was repelled there, how far this dagger hit, but it's again, it's got to be a combined attack, you've got to have ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, drones, in sufficient numbers, remember a beautiful illustration of this whole story, not ukraine, it is directly related, it is an iranian attack on israel, a combined attack, but a sufficiently extensive air defense system before approaching israeli airspace. all these missiles were destroyed, but if russia is now receiving enough

ballistic missiles from iran, then it is obvious that these attacks will be even more intense than they were, and why, because it is necessary to have enough ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and anti-aircraft missiles and drones, while there is a part of the air defense system there, it is occupied by drones, part of winged ones. missiles, the dagger can work more quickly, let's say, even in the presence of patriots, so i don't think that this is any special escalation of violence, i think that it's just a completely logical development of the war, when the aggressor accumulates a sufficient number of resources to attack some ukrainian positions , any, it can be positions in the armed forces, it can be infrastructure, it can be simple intimidation of the population, it could be a demonstration that there is no... no safe place, it could be, by the way, an attempt to destroy the infrastructure of various nature, there are some railway junctions, we

don't know that completely, but i don't see why to be surprised here, to be honest, when you say there were relative lulls, of course there were, they stockpiled missiles, now these again, if it turns out that they don't have enough of these iranian missiles, their own, and they can't physically produce more than they can , so this will also be a certain comfort, huh, then there will be a massive attack again, after 5-6 months, you can just sit down and calculate with a calculator: 30 missiles per month, well, that’s 30 missiles, meaning hasta 1555, and yes, if in general, according to analysts, they produce up to 100 different missiles, i'm talking about iskanders, because without iskanders, without daggers, it's not the same, not the same attack, they produce a lot of ordinary rockets, but if you just fire with ordinary rockets, that's it. no, no, it will not reach the result, but look at today's shelling of kyiv by drones, well, it was loud,

it’s unpleasant, but it was all shot down, only the fragments of the shaheds were there somewhere in the center of kyiv, by the way, kyiv is actually being shelled, well, if it can be considered that way , they are attacking kyiv, kyiv region, in fact, since july 30 of this year, that is actually already for a month and a half, there has been such a nightly attack, which, according to analysts, is nothing more than, firstly, moral pressure, and secondly, working out directions for sure, and besides, if you want to win, you have to destabilize the enemy's capital , destroy decision-making centers, destabilize the situation with the population, force, by the way, a large part of the population to leave, huh. it was easier then to occupy the city, this is a long-term war, for some

unknown reason, we all the time think that putin is sitting there and thinking about how to end the war and, in general, he is completely frightened by the order of the hague tribunal, he is doing it, just clearly, cold-bloodedly, calmly calculates plans for the destruction of ukraine and its surrender, it is another matter that he miscalculates, and we have seen it again for 2.5 years and can see it for another 2.5 years, and then another 2.5 years to see, but one must... prepare for the fact that as long as vladimir putin leads the russian federation, war will most likely take various forms, perhaps even in the form of the kind of war of attrition in which we live continue and will be constant, permanent. russia's destruction of ukrainian territory, cities, destruction of infrastructure, killing of civilians, these are realities, there will be no other realities, there is no need to look for a black cat in a dark room, a black cat of peace in a dark room of war, that's all, but if we we are talking about ballistic missiles that were allegedly provided by iran to russia, allegedly, because there is no direct evidence yet, until they

arrived, so until they arrived, so for now... we cannot officially say this, but according to the data the wall street journal, according to the times, allegedly yesterday, the day before yesterday, these missiles were already delivered to the territory of the russian federation, we are talking about several hundred missiles, from 200 to 300, again, according to these media, but why after all, iran took such a step and decided to provide these ballistic missiles, which... we talked to you, including those that iran itself needs, and again, according to the same foreign media, it is about the fact that this may be the first batch of missiles, further discussions are now underway between the occupying power and iran, about delivering medium-range missiles, including to russia, i.e. plus or minus 500 km,

we are talking now, i want to emphasize to our tv viewers about missiles... range, i.e. approximately 100, 120, 130 km , but they already cover the entire territory of ukraine, why would the russians then have 500 km, now we are talking about missiles, as far as i understand, about 120 km, 70 miles, well, at least according to the times and the wall street journal, i don't know, we'll see, that's what we're saying again, we're just saying, yes, so we're talking about short-range missiles, the question is allegedly being discussed. medium- range missiles, i.e. 500+m. mr. vitaly, why did iran take such a step? well, i think that for him it is simply part of his political cooperation with moscow. why didn't he go to and they, for example, did not give these missiles before, that is, russia led negotiations, as far as i understand, with iran for a year, at least. maybe that's why

they didn't give it, because they believed that russia has its own arsenal, and now they see that russia can't cope with its arsenal and... it's absolutely obvious that the russians managed to wash them, or maybe just pay money, iran needs money , we still have to remember that this is a country that is under permanent sanctions of the international community, this can be one opinion, and another opinion, maybe iran is interested in such global destabilization, no less than russia, they can exchange destabilizations, for them it is a common front, a common front of war with america. russia is waging this war on the contact line with ukraine, iran is waging this war, relatively speaking, in the middle east, and by the way, when you say they need them themselves, well, again, it depends on when they plan to attack israel , if they have postponed this attack, and they are going to strike in 300, in three to

four months, or not at all , we do not know what conclusions they came, some other form to choose, right? well, maybe they just came to different conclusions when they investigated the murder of ismail hanai, there were many opinions that it was not really israel who organized it, huh, but that ismailhania could have been a victim of some internal conflicts of the politerrorist organization hamas itself, and imagine that the iranians found out about it, and then they understand that an attack on israel will make them look like fools, that these people who... organized in the vystokhan, let's say there, called the name of the current head of the politburo of hamasvar, others interested people, that they will just be rude and laugh that we killed our competitor in your capital, and also created a situation of your war with israel, in which you yourself can be disinterested, because israel can already respond, and by the way, this

also the question of retaliating, so the iranians could have different motives, well, i generally think that after the iranians... started supplying the russians with drones, then the question of when they would give something else was a matter of time, well, north russia supplies korea missiles, these missiles have already been fired at ukraine, they are simply low-quality missiles, but let's see how high-quality these iranian missiles can be, let's see, we'll just see who else will look, if they are, but here the question is different, what will the united states be like to answer this, because they perfectly understand that this is such a story with destabilization of the situation, i... not only in the middle east, but also in the russian-ukrainian war, so this may already be a response from washington, but we don't know which one, i would consider it the best the answer would be to do everything possible. and it is impossible to change this nature of red lines for ukrainian strikes on russia. well, if iran supplies russia

with weapons and allows these weapons to be used throughout the entire territory of ukraine, including the sovereign territory of ukraine, which russia does not seem to claim. ugh. so why then the west cannot allow ukraine to hit russia with its missiles. this can be such a dire situation. well, we see that as of... right now, the position of the united states of america, at least as of today, is why that this could change at any moment, even this evening, when the decision may be taken by the biden administration to authorize and provide, in particular, the physical provision of such missiles to ukraine, but at least this week, us officials and the secretary of defense himself lloyd austin stated that so far... the united states of america does not grant such permits and that ukraine has its own weapons, by the way, this is austin's statement, it has its own weapons with which it strikes

the territory of the occupying state. so anyway, if we're talking about this dimension, you see we are asking, we appeal, there are voices , including those of our partners, the closest partners, there are the baltic countries, latvia, lithuania, estonia, there is a position of poland, there is another position. some states, in particular great britain, but still, even despite this, i would say, stage of terror, we did not receive such permission, and we obviously need this permission in order to attack objects on the territory russia, there are at least 300-400-500 km, why is there such a delay in this issue, and is it really possible in your opinion. expect soon given the development of these recent events, such and such missiles and such permits. well, i have repeatedly spoken about this formula, a formula

that consists of the fact that the west is waiting all the time for putin to draw the right conclusions, to realize that he will not be able to achieve his goal, the destruction of ukraine, that the west will not abandon its support for ukraine, that in this way... we will talk about the political and economic trap that russia fell into as a result of this war, and that this trap will force putin to negotiate with the west, with ukraine, to end this war. here the only problem is that putin, as we said at the beginning of our conversation with you, he is not going to realize this, he is full of enthusiasm about the fact that this war should continue and should lead to the results that he planned for himself in 2022 to him, and maybe even in 2014. and there can be no other results, and the price he is going to pay for it can be any, this is a question exclusively for him, not

a question of the west and victory, and the west is simply forced all the time now to move these red lines himself, he has no other choice, because if he does not move the red lines, the red lines are moved by putin, and if the west does not move the red lines, then it becomes absolutely obvious that the war can continue. to infinity, at least to the complete exhaustion of the resources of the parties, and this is an important issue of resources, this is what general budanov spoke about today, i think, that it cannot be to infinity, because we too can run out of resources and the russians can run out of resources , the question is which country economically, politically and from a military point of view sight and demographic first runs out, the country that runs out first and loses. but it doesn't have to be ukraine, that 's what the focus is, because i repeat again, if the west helps us, if we have economic opportunities, and if we are in defensive

measures, let's say, like now during the pokrov operation, then we are losing far fewer people than the russians who are advancing, because i want to remind you that the goal of russia is the complete occupation of ukrainian territory with the expulsion from this territory of all the population disloyal to russia, and this requires victims, plus... well, you know, iran and north korea are of course important allies, but they are not the allies that can form your arsenal for years, so this is also a question, but if you perceive all this statically, then russia really has time to delay war, at least until the moment when it hopes to wear out ukraine, that's the whole logic, that's why, of course, these red lines should move, why they don't move, well , it's also clear why, first, it's that the west will . the possibility of a nuclear strike is nowhere to be found it didn't happen, and i think that in the west they believe that putin is not controlled enough to

not make such a decision, i'm sure. moment, but i personally believe that putin has such an idea about the decision, which is in no way related to external circumstances. i am always surprised when people talk about putin's revenge, that putin is kidding. by and large, putin is a calculator. calculators, they do not take revenge. they calculate, they can make wrong decisions. after making the wrong decisions, they make the right ones from their point of view, but... it doesn't happen in an emotional way, in general, in politics, emotion is the worst, i would say, adviser, and we see that there are emotional people in politics, who, as a rule, make one mistake after another in their lives and in the life of the country they lead. putin makes mistakes not because he is emotional, but because he does not imagine the world in which he is. and there is one more important point for the psychotype of these people, if we talk about this, about a nuclear strike, they are not afraid to make mistakes, that is. do you remember this

soviet series 17 moments of spring? that's it the film that shaped putin's generation. ugh. all the young people who watched this film, how old was putin in 1973, well, he was 20 years old, and he looked at this soviet spy. stirlitz. in this series, the main element was analysis. stileje, if you remember, received the task, found out. which of the top leaders of reicho conducts negotiations with the allies, by the way, historically these negotiations really took place, they were conducted by general wolff, who was there in this film, but he conducted them under alain dalis with the full knowledge of stalin, the allies informed stalin about their consultations, which did lead to the fact that part of the german troops in italy surrendered, but this is not what we are talking about, so there is this myth, yes, what is this script of this film, the creep sits for several episodes.

in a row analyzes who herin, goebbels, bormann, himmler, and we see how the analysis works, imagine how enthusiastic it is, you also want to be a spy, but remember andriyuch, stilitz was wrong, he analyzed five series in a row, anyway made a completely wrong conclusion that in none a western spy detective couldn’t be, imagine, i don’t know james bond there, who is doing something and makes a mistake and... normal, well, he made a mistake and made a mistake, we moved on, we continue to work for the state, insults, of course spies make mistakes, but it's not the gold standard, in the soviet series it was the standard, soviet spies were wrong all the time, not only in this movie but it was considered normal because they were wrong with the best of motives and we saw a man who suffered the obvious intellectual defeat, and nothing, you can

hit the enemy with a bottle. with a bottle on the head, killed someone and buried the body in the lake, that is , instead of correctly calculating the algorithm of his actions, he resorted to violence, and it was presented as an absolutely brilliant , correct way out of the situation. well, what do you want from putin, that's why he is so dangerous, because we believe that a normal person, if he realizes that he was wrong, he was wrong with the blitzkrieg, he will do something to prevent the consequences of this mistake, and a person formed by a stirrer, believes that we should just hit you and i on the head with a bottle and everything will be fine, why did i analyze all this at all, after all. here is the logic of the soviet man we see in

the kremlin. so this is one point that must be realized, the fear of putin's inadequacy and the lack of understanding of what to do if a nuclear state really uses nuclear weapons over a non-nuclear one, we do not know this, and the west does not know this, we are strategically uncertain, this a serious problem. the second point, what has now started to be actively said, maybe you saw, said the spokeswoman of the pentagon, i think the defense minister of the netherlands said, about the opportunity used there. the state of the western air defense systems to close the ukrainian sky, the ineffectiveness of all these measures, it turns out to be ineffective. the americans do not have so many atapak missiles, and if ukraine uses them on the sovereign territory of the russian federation, it will not have enough missiles to fight on its territory. well, by the way, the white house also announced this, ugh, that is.