certain separation of targeting, separation of functions within the defense forces, it's a very difficult task, and when we read some news that something is going to burn somewhere, people think it's very simple. in fact, in some places, thousands of people worked on this attack in order to achieve this result. with western weapons, it can be faster, easier, more effective. on the other hand, we don't have enough ballistic missiles that are critically difficult to ... intercept, as we see, unfortunately, in our example, that can carry a cluster warhead that specially created and designed to cover large area targets, for example, airfields, for example, places of accumulation of armored vehicles or any other equipment, for example, places of accumulation of personnel, that is, two or three ballistic missiles at 300 km can plus or minus take out dozens of planes, guarantee...

it is extremely expensive to withdraw or destroy and intercept such missiles, and there is nothing to prepare for the launch, so it is a different matter, ukraine is trying to get out of the conditions in which we are in order to achieve our result. long-range drones are a very cool solution, we as an organization fit into it in the summer of 2022, well, this is a perspective, but they cannot solve all problems, cruise missiles are ukrainian. it's also cool that they exist, it's cool that we use them and they sometimes hit, but again it doesn't cover all the needs, ballistic weapons are another niche, we have to create our own, we have that and had and we have to move there, but today we are limited in this, and the war is happening here and now, and the result must be achieved here and now. bohdan was on svoboda ranok logunov, see you on weekdays at radio svoboda. tired

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veresin had done so, he would have gone to prison, a special view on the events in ukraine, so it is not necessary to say that the fish rots from the head, no, not from the head, and beyond its borders, then who china? my heart hurts. all this in an informational marathon with mykola veresny. saturday 17:10, sunday 18:15 at espresso. putin is a special agent himself, and all the years of his administration he actually saturated ukraine with his agents. what do you think? from 15 to life. wow, and for what, for work for work for the russian special service, you worked, that's right, but you have a son in the armed forces. and you were not

stopped from cooperating with the russians by the fact that it could somehow kill your son? it could have killed me too. since 2014, in the war with ukraine, russia has been using one special weapon that had been years, if not decades, in the making. since the full-scale invasion, these weapons have been activated in various corners. of ukraine, both in the east and in the west. these weapons are people who transmit important information to the aggressor. it was very difficult, but we managed to talk both with operatives hunting for traitors and with people detained on suspicion of

treason. we need to take into account that putin is a special serviceman himself. and all the years of his administration, he actually saturated ukraine by his agency. the sbu actively worked on this agency, and that is why the initial plan they had for, well, at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, it was not implemented. it is under article 111 of the criminal code, which is treason, that more than 2,500 criminal proceedings have been opened, and to date we have about 500 convictions under this article. it is worth noting that with the beginning of a full-scale invasion. the verkhovna rada increased the liability for this type of crime, and if previously the maximum type of punishment was 15 years in prison, from now on, from the beginning of the full-scale invasion, part two was added to article 111, which stipulates that treason committed under martial law is punishable

by imprisonment up to life imprisonment. i knew that i knew that sooner or later i would still be locked up, but i had to do my duty. i had to fulfill my pre... the person didn't introduce himself, the person didn't introduce himself, only hinted, but if i had even a millionth chance, i would do it, and what did he ask me to do? well, different, different, this is in the case file, i will not tell you about it here, how long this cooperation lasted for you, not long, not long, not long, not long, well...

well, what do you do from 15 to life, and for what kind of work for the russian special service , russian special services, you worked, that's for sure. look, i am a member of the pardon commission under the president of ukraine, only those who have the status of prisoners of war are included in the exchanges. individuals cannot be exchanged, that is, there is, in principle , even, let's put it this way, no legal status here

grounds for handing over ukrainian citizens to russia, even if they have been convicted. under such articles as treason or collaborationism. we have an exception. let's remember mr. medvedchuk, who is a purely civilian person who was handed over to the russians. federation, but it was, well, let's put it this way, an exceptional operation that did not have any legal basis and legal basis. the fact is that since 2014 this has become a completely new phenomenon for ukraine, and both the judicial system and the law enforcement system have been adapting to this new phenomenon. when we talk about collaborationism, there were actually no such delays during the collaborative, collaborative activity, respectively, at the stage. 2014-2022, on the other hand,

more than 800 criminal cases have been initiated to date. as for treason, the number of such crimes was actually one, they did not exist until 2000, the year 22 there was a norm of prosecution. for treason, but in the period from 2014 to 2022, in fact, two criminal cases were considered under this article, we remember nel stepa, a well-known case, also under this the article was, which did not even end in a verdict, rather it ended in an acquittal, and the prerogative of the actual investigation and prosecution here for the service. of the security of ukraine, that is why, let's say, the collection

of information takes place, and, accordingly, all the subsequent stages of the pre-trial investigation and the judicial course of cases in order to obtain the proper, proper evidence, the evidence base, and the verdict, so that it is not will be contested. this person is really an enemy of ukraine, that she collected information to the detriment of state security and handed it over to the representatives of the frozen bodies of our enemy. does he have a chance, even if he receives the maximum term. to go to russia, we have an established exchange mechanism, as far as i

know, he does not want to get on these lists to avoid punishment. he was interested in information about the armed forces of ukraine, primarily this information is archival for the russians, also taking into account the fact that he was an employee of one of the... enterprises in the mykolaiv oblast, they were interested in information about the activities of this enterprise, he purposefully, on the task of his curators , picked up persons who also have a pro-russian position on the territory of mykolayiv oblast in order to gather information about the armed forces of ukraine, the defense forces. this was one of his main tasks, i can also say that from

our experience, many people who were still involved by the kgb bodies in their own cooperation, and it is for them that the representatives of the special services are now coming out of russia, if you can call it that, the so-called canned goods . i have been interested in this problem since the 14th year, well , maybe because of what i started to observe according to how it was arranged at that time, because i myself am from luhansk, and in the period of the 14th year, until the summer of the 14th year, i had the opportunity to directly observe how the first steps were taken in the occupied territory, and... as of the 20th year, i found that we had a lot of different draft laws that proposed

establishing separate criminal liability, for collaborative activity, for collaborationism, none of these projects there were about eight or nine, there were various initiatives by state authorities , and one way or another they all remained no implemented, this summed up the essence of the problem, we made late decisions, well, this is... a trend, unfortunately, not only for criminal justice policy, for other areas, and these decisions, if they were already made, were not always of high quality, 3 march 2022. the council adopts a package of laws, laws that include a law that establishes responsibility for collaborative activity, that is, finally it happened, finally the law enforcement officers received this important tool to counter the phenomenon we are talking about, we already have finally data for two years, the 22nd 23rd year, which can allow us to analyze how

effectively this struggle is taking place, and that's when we see such final results for these two years, unfortunately... there is a certain problem, today, in my opinion, law enforcement officers concentrate their efforts on the most simple and primitive cases, not those that would be desirable to society in general, but they are the first place among all forms of collaborative activity in terms of the number of both registered facts and verdicts, which are decreed, this the first part of article 111 is occupied by the mark one, this informational interaction is a problem that...appears with treason, it concerns the appearance of all these problems that we are talking about now, collaborative activities, the assistance of the state to the aggressor, when these appeared norms, the question arose, how should they interact with each other, where is treason? i was born in the village of shkotovo, primorsky territory, i was born in

the village of shkotovo, primorsky territory of russia. was indeed recruited while still in his training stage, when he was trained at the territory of the russian federation, upon his arrival in ukraine he became a so-called sleeper agent, that is, they are recruited people who are waiting for specific instructions from the enemy's special services. from the beginning of the full-scale invasion, this is the instruction... i would not take the oath then on february 22, 1992, but i would take a step forward, turn around and go to russia. if i knew how it would all turn out, what it would lead to, i would just spit and go to russia. he would have just spat and gone to russia. i refused the post of colonel in the crimea four times. i am four times

refused the post of colonel in the crimea four times on the grounds that he was still at home. and first of all housing in ochakov, i had housing, i served in ochakov for 14 years, i had housing there, wherever i went, i would like my family to be with me, but housing was not given, to take two children to an incomprehensible place, one of them is my son, born in 1991, here, but you already have a son, i have a question, how did it happen, what? that he is in the armed forces of ukraine. and you work for russian intelligence. did you and your son disagree? not only from with a son, and also with a daughter. and the fact that it could somehow kill your son did not stop you from cooperating with the russians.

how many arrivals in mykolaiv could have killed me? we are at night. we sat, wait, this is your son, it can kill him, this cooperation, well, he is a military man, he is a military man, he is a military man, a military man, you are a military man, and this is your son, a military man, this is my mistake, i raised him a good, decent person, this is not my care, i raised him as a good, decent person, erudite, intellectual, but on it's a pity... i see from practice that people are motivated by russian propaganda, it will be better there, that's why i didn't realize myself here, i'm

already 50 years old, that i have nothing, orcs will come and i'll heal. a better new life, i can see from communicating with such road workers, especially in the first minutes after being detained, when they talk about their motives for their activities, probably more than half of them have exactly such motives, unfortunately, state traitors have been discovered since the time of the full-scale aggression in mykolayivska there are quite a lot of regions, among them there are enough resonant now you have to take into account that the war is going on, the full-scale war has been going on for more than three years, and the methods of the enemy's special services are also changing, if at the beginning of the post... headquarters invasion russia was betting on so-called sleeper agents, that is, people who had contacts russian federation, went there to the territory, or had relatives there, now their meds

are changing somewhat, and a large number of agencies that work for them today, they are involved through social networks. from the beginning social networks became one of the main sources of a full-scale invasion. information for ukrainians, but russia also uses them for recruitment. in social networks and telegram channels, representatives of the special services of the russian federation offer cooperation to ukrainians, using blackmail, manipulation, and sometimes simply offering easy money. and it is thanks to social networks that it is possible to track down alleged traitors to the motherland, sometimes at the highest level.

interesting information was received that representatives of the aggressor state from mykolaiv are receiving certain data concerning law enforcement activity in the region, at that time law enforcement activity was basically limited to repelling aggression. and this, accordingly, was of military importance, of course they began to quickly check this information, who could, who could possess the data that the aggressor state of the russian federation receives, and received certain triggers for the prosecutor's office, of course, that his position, it needed a more detailed check. i had a relationship with a youtube blogger, you. i contacted him on my own initiative, no one came to me, it was around the beginning of march, maybe the fifth, sixth, tenth number, i

don't remember exactly, by and large he came out on them himself, he himself came out on them proactively, disagreeing with certain circumstances, which in his opinion were considered unfair or incorrect decisions. leadership of the state and region, and he decided, he decided to share them with a pro-russian blogger, who in turn already led him to the representatives of the special services. at that time, there were prisoners of war in mykolaiv, he reported on them, and, unfortunately, there were also many dead servicemen from kherson direction, he also passed the lists of the dead... to the representatives of the special services of the aggressor state, and another direction he had was passwords, very frankly,

apparently, after he started passing passwords, we no longer had a choice , we needed to stop his illegal activities, which we did, the number of this one is here, or what is his name, well, they deleted him or correspondence with him, dear, he was not ready for ... that he was detained, he at that time he was quite relaxed, he entered the offices of the first persons law enforcement agencies in the mykolaiv region, and he felt quite confident, in principle he handed over the entire important situation in the city of mykolaiv at that time, for this he was promised a position in the newly created, again , in the coffeehouses of the law enforcement agency, well, once he said that. .. they seemed to be interested in me, i understood for myself that it was the top management, i understood that, the prosecutor’s offices of the russian federation,

which after, after the capture, could have been working, nothing more, at first he pleaded guilty, later he changed his testimony, to today he has a completely... different defense position, but how can it be that you did not see this information, but you continue to send it and do not understand what happened to it, please tell me , what did she do, probably, that he handed her over to the law enforcement agencies of the russian federation, a very interesting episode with the prosecutor, the head of the district prosecutor's office, yes, why, because this is one of the examples of the super filigree work of the security of ukraine, what is filigree, that when we received information that he might be a traitor, was an operational combination was carried out, which consisted

in the fact that... our people gave this prosecutor obviously false data, because he was collecting various information about our military, about losses, about objects and so on, and at that moment our employees , they monitored the documents that go to his russian curator, and after literally a short period of time, when he was given this false information, it appears in his curator after a short period of time, that is, the person is documented, and it was not only possible to play ahead, it was also possible to misinform the enemy, if we speak simply in the language of numbers, then treason is 25 criminal proceedings, about 500 sentences, collaborative activity is about 6,500 criminal proceedings and

about 700 sentences. and what is popularly called the adjustment of enemy fire, which in the official language sounds like the unauthorized dissemination of information about the movement of the movement of the armed forces, is about 500 people, a hundred of them have already received sentences, this is a person of any profession, because among the exposed sbu agents there were also people's deputies among them, and they were also unemployed people, the geography of these crimes is also as wide as possible... of course, most of the correctional officers there are located in the front-line territories, but they are also found in the territory of the western regions of ukraine. as for motivation, in general, they can be divided into three categories: the first category is ideological, that is, people who are supporters of racism, the idea of ​​a russian world, the second category of people are people who work for financial gain, and the third category is people who perform tasks due to blackmail

are here... there can be many examples of how people are induced to cooperate, in particular, recently we had an exposure when the sbu detained a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, whose father lived in the temporarily occupied territory , the rashists received information that his son was fighting on the side of the armed forces, and thus attacked him, began to torture his father and said. they said: if you don't want us to kill your father, then complete our tasks. that is, motivation can be completely different, but the message from the sbu is unambiguous and clear, that sooner or later we will find every traitor, every agent of the russian federation and bring them to justice. the full-scale invasion seems to have worked as a catalyst in the fight against state traitors in ukraine. since the beginning

of the russian-led war in 2014 , a little more than two dozen people have been convicted under this article, and in the two years of the full-scale invasion , half a thousand people have already been sentenced for treason, and it seems that the catalyst has only started a violent reaction. stand up to ranks of the 100th separate mechanized brigade of the armed forces of ukraine. protect yours! the result of their work is our safety. they, the boys from volyn, proved that everyone can be a warrior, strong in spirit, they value the ability to stand side by side with their brothers and sisters, all the way to holy victory. everyone who pilots a uav understands it, prepares, treats, repairs, rolls kilometers of roads, fills piles of documents, significantly strengthens

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