it can have extremely negative consequences for ukraine. sloviansk and kramatorsk will be under threat, and the russians will come closer than ever to their goal: to enter the donetsk region administration. the capture of pokrovsk also creates a prerequisite for an offensive on dnipropetrovsk oblast, because outside the city there are no large agglomerations or natural obstacles where the bsu could gain a foothold and successfully conduct a defense. if the defense forces succeed. to kick the russians on the approaches to pokrovsk or in the city itself, there will probably be a pause related to both the exhaustion of the parties and rains, which will complicate the conduct of military operations, primarily for heavy equipment, the parties will begin preparations for the winter campaign as early as 2025.

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volodymyr zelenskyi says that he has a plan for the victory of ukraine and that he wants to show this plan in washington. the kremlin says that there can be no negotiations, moreover, moscow received ballistic missiles from iran. this is svoboda lai. my name is vlasta lazur, we are currently talking about how realistic the plan to end the war from the ukrainian president is, is it about victory or is it about an armistice, how does this plan differ from all the previous ones, we will talk about this in the second part of the issue, and we begin we are from russia, where ukrainian drones probably attacked moscow and the moscow region at night, burning residential buildings and airports. take a look.

high voltage, house next door, gentlemen, have mercy! he is flying somewhere, here he is, flying, go away!

so, ukraine probably carried out one of the most massive drone attacks on russia. the russian ministry of defense reported shooting down 141-144 drones. something similar happened on september 1, when the russian ministry of defense... announced the downing of 158 drones, officially the ukrainian authorities did not comment on the attack on russia, the drone attack was immediately reported in nine russian regions, in particular in bryansk, kursk, tula, kaluska, voronezh , lipetsk, oryol regions. in the ramen district in the moscow region, drones fell on residential buildings, and according to local authorities , one woman was killed and others were injured. a fire broke out at vzhukovskiy airport as a result of falling debris, and in general, vnukov da airports. and

zhukovsky did not accept planes during the attack. the mayor of moscow serhii sobyanin reported that at least 15 drones were shot down in moscow itself. my husband and i heard such a roar, we flew out to the balcony, smoke, people running with children, who is wearing what, how are people standing, it is generally some kind of horror, in general, how to live, why are we afraid to live now, when it will be over, it was four o'clock in the morning, i heard this pinwheel, i open the curtain and it is building right in front of my eyes, i can see it all.

it has already reached us, i think they will not stop there, they will still fly, people were sleeping and innocent people are suffering, why, i think, it shouldn't be like this, you are sleeping and you don't even... you know, will you wake up tomorrow or no, our government did not fully do all this to protect our people, they began to look at the windows to see what was there, saw that there were people they ran out, something was lying everywhere, and the smoke was so black, you could see that black smoke was coming right past the windows, it was difficult to breathe, it was a little scary, of course it was, you just think about the fact that in life you pay attention to some small things, here you think, what could have come to you. in principle, there are only three or four meters, but if it flew towards us, that's what you think about, that is, i just have more thoughts that something terrible passed by us. so, almost from the very beginning of the full-scale war against russia

in ukraine, military and political observers often spoke about the need to transfer hostilities to russian territory. he said that the citizens of russia do not feel war. war for most of them, especially. for the residents of the capital, this is something distant and foreign, and therefore, they say, they have no urgent need to put pressure on the russian authorities, to stop aggression, or to protest en masse against the war. can it be stated that, for example, the current air attack on russian regions, as well as similar previous attacks, is the same transfer of war to russian territory. how systematically and massively can ukraine carry out such attacks, and most importantly, are they able to influence not only the mood in russian society, but also weaken the russian military machine, we will talk about this later, roman kostenko, secretary of the committee of the verkhovna rada, joins the broadcast on matters of national security, defense, intelligence, roman, my greetings, good evening, i will start from the very beginning, ukraine has not officially confirmed or denied that it was its drones that attacked

russia, but here i must clarify with you whether do you have any doubts about this, well, if the footage you just showed of some individual flying machines, they... are really from this raid, then i have no doubts. well, what does this last drone attack show, or rather what did it show, drones in russia, i can distinguish which one is ours or which one is not ours? yes, the sound just disappeared for me, i think that it is possible for our viewers as well, did i understand correctly, you can determine which drone is ukrainian and which is not ukrainian, you have doubts, by the stern, ugh, what does this indicate this current attack and a previous similar drone attack? probably ukrainian drones on russia, today it is also, by the way, unique in that the drones flew to moscow, and even a civilian was killed there, well, from my point of view, we are now talking about the attack itself, not exactly where they went , where the targets are, there are

many factors that can affect it, debris, suppression by means of electronic warfare and there a change of course, there is the influence of the russians directly on these drones. who can later change the course, this is already their influence, because on us, when we launch drones, we specifically put military targets there, and they have to fly there, all the manipulations the russians do is to knock them off course and turn them away from military targets, or to knock them off course altogether, if we are talking about an attack in general, you rightly said that one of our tasks is to turn the war on the territory of russia and destroy the targets on the territory. of the russian federation, the same planes, the same aerial bombs, when we say how to fight the cabals, first of all, it is to destroy them on warehouses with ammunition, do not wait for their planes to be lifted into the air, so destroy these planes, i do not give, or airstrips, i do not give, not allowing them to take off, and

the war cannot be won, if we talk about it the military itself eh the way, let's say, the conduct of hostilities and the military way to win there is non-diplomatic, so it should work on three levels: tactical, operational and strategic. this means that one there up to 100 km is the front line there 50, from zero somewhere 50, 70 is the tactical depth where our soldiers on the front edge inflict attacks on the enemy, further up to 300 km, this is the operational depth, this is their logistics, this is the airfields there, this is the personnel, reserves, and even strategic, like what we see today, this is the task of striking deep into russia on their strategic object, only comprehensively, it means that we have a system, it means that we have a plan to work specifically on

enemy territory, and even more, what is pleasing is that these strikes are becoming more systematic and more frequent, and i will confirm here that our economy has indeed increased the production of these deep strikes, and i think that there will only be to increase, that is, it indicates that ukraine is increasing the production of drones over time. we are practically increasing the reports that go to the committee, we are increasing them, improving them there, making some changes when we see that russia is somehow countering there, because what is the difference between our drones and russian ones, in russia there is one type , here we can say that they have an advantage, well, these iranian ones, which they renamed geranium, and here... they use them and practically, if there is one type of drone, drones can be found

countermeasures, you can fight in principle, we have mobile groups there, there are also some guys who also fight with missiles, so we are fighting practically against the same type of missiles, we have, well, i won’t say the number of more than three types of different drones at different ranges, now reactivity is also appearing, so it is exhausting for the russians. their air defense and this allows us to have such a wider range of their application, and it is more difficult for the russians to fight with them, because they are all different in their structure and where some do not reach, others do, and this is our advantage now. well, you know, just russian propaganda after the last shelling of russian territory, when, in particular, drones reached the moscow region. complained about exactly one type of drone, in february they mentioned, if

possible, what kind of drone it is, just to refresh this information for our audience, as far as i remember the statement, for example, already at that time, well, before that, he was the minister of strategic industries oleksandr kamyshyn of industry, he just said that this february is an analogue of the conditional iranian shaheds, well, well, the principle is basically the same in them, this internal engine. combustion, which there allows it to fly for a large number of kilometers and carry a certain amount of explosive e-e substance, well, what can you say about it, what is its range, a very long range, i think, no less than that of the same shaheds, and in principle, well, if he is one of the sa, let's say this, he is one of the most effective drones that were developed in ukraine, and they are now making quite a lot of them. roman, the last such attack was, i already mentioned, on september 1, and judging by the last ones

a few weeks, as these attacks took place, the armed forces can accumulate more than 150 drones for one strike in a period there once every 10-15 days. how would you in general, as of now , evaluate such capabilities, and if it makes sense, let's compare them with russian capabilities. well, as far as i know, the russians now have the opportunity to produce somewhere around eh, so you have to look in the records somewhere up to 200 shaheds per year, ugh, this is according to the latest information, plus or minus, i may be slightly wrong there, in relation to this shahed we have about drones, when we say we don't we are talking about rockets, because we can now only measure rockets by this, rockets are of course much bigger. are there many advantages there, well, the fact that our partners give us there and somewhere we produce something individually, as for

us, well, i think the problem is that we have manufacturers who can, let's say, surpass the production of the russians , but for this we need funds, the question is in funds, if there are funds, i think that we will be able to produce a sufficient number and more than that number for a month. which you said, and tactics, to things are also different, because as far as i understand, russia launches fewer shaheds in ukraine, but more often, and ukraine launches more shaheds in russia, but less often. is this a forced tactic on the part of ukraine? well, look, the russians, they're using shahedis in different ways, when they attack, they have permanent ones there combined with missiles, they 're using them now, basically, they're constantly upgrading their shahedis, and now what we 're seeing is that they let them in, they are

often for the purpose of reconnaissance, very often in order to that are already being installed on the shaheds... cameras, thermal imagers, uh, positioning that tells them if they hit them somewhere, if they are hit somewhere, they transmit information from their sensors, where they were hit, and often these small attacks , it is the russians who often build a map of our air defense, unfortunately, where they were shot down, that is why we oppose this, we often change our means, where they are, let’s say this, then according to this, of these routes, the russians... begin to change routes, it is often possible look at those of our tablets, on which the routes of movement are visible russian shaheds, how are they there, well, in order to fly to a point that is 600 km away, they can fly 1000 km over ukraine in order to bypass all our air defense forces, there is already information that they will use

and are already building so-called empty shakheds for... in order to exhaust our air defense, and this will also be their method, because simply, if a shahet alone costs around $100,000, no matter who says 30, it is somewhere around 100- costs 150 00 $, then the empty one will cost 30-50 there, maybe a little more, but rockets that they cost much more to use and are much more difficult to make, so it's also a tactic, but also what we're launching is what's forcing... the russians to fire expensive missiles at our drones, it's also depleting their air defense, and i think in the future , in the near future, when we will have serious ballistic missiles there, we will be able to strike more effectively, because we have to do everything for this now, a certain type is already flying and being developed, but those that we we are all waiting, should become and have

to inflict greater impressions on the enemy, it is not there... 100 kg, or not 50, which our drone delivers, and this is already one rocket that carries about half a ton of explosives, and we can already talk about the impressions of more serious ob' objects, and this will already be more noticeable for the russian federation itself. please tell me, roman, do you not see any risks that ukraine may be accused of an attack on the civilian population, because now we see that a drone has hit a high-rise building. i understand that russia does exactly that to ukraine every day. ukraine still positions itself as a victim in this war, and it is a victim, and, nevertheless, you say that drones are shot down there, if i understood you correctly, russian slaves, and they do not fly to the target, but eventually fall on civilian objects, and do you expect any troubles for ukraine in connection with this, and i do not see, if we do not have questions,

that we will clearly lay down targets there, well, civilian objects, our drones, then i don't see any problems, it's... a war, we defend ourselves, i say, i say again, that in order to win the war, the russians have come to us, we have to fight on all three, let's say, levels, tactical, operational, strategic, and there will be, well, there may be questions, definitely there may be, but our task is to clearly lay down, let's say, the coordinates and hit on military objects, and to do everything to limit, let's say, the possibility of these... strikes on civilian objects, this is my position, well, in war, anything happens, and we know that countermeasures sometimes lead to before hitting civilian objects, so, well, we can't give up because of that, well, no is causing, we cannot avoid striking the russian federation because of this, this is what we have to do in order to win, thank you very much,

roman kostenko, people's deputy, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, we talked about. .. drone attacks on the territory of russia. thank you very much. well, at the same time, ukrainian drones are probably attacking russia. i will remind you that the kursk operation is ongoing, which, by the way, according to russian sociologists, has caused concern among russians, the russian side, meanwhile, he makes it clear that there will be no negotiations, even on kyiv's terms. for example, the former minister of defense of russia, serhiy shoigu, who currently holds the position of secretary of the security council, in his interview for the tv channel russia 24. stated that negotiations with ukraine are impossible as long as the military of the armed forces of ukraine remain on russian territory. later, kremlin spokesman dmytro piskov slightly supplemented shoigo's words. supposedly, he said. before the start of the ukrainian offensive in the kursk region, vladimir putin was ready to suspend it strikes on ukrainian energy infrastructure and merchant fleet in exchange for ukraine's commitment not to attack russian

oil storage facilities and refineries. and now, they say, against the background of the kursk operation, there will be no agreements. earlier, let me remind you, the washington post reported that negotiations on such an agreement were being prepared through mediators in qatar, but broke down after the ukrainian offensive on kurshchyna. both sides, both ukrainian and... denied this report. in any case, now taking into account the kurdish operation, kyiv is probably preparing a new one plan to end the war. volodymyr zelenskyi hinted at this in part at the press conference, when he said that the exchange rate operation is one of the points of ukraine's victory plan. zelensky is going to present this same plan to the president of the united states, joe biden, and to both candidates for the presidency of the united states, donald trump and kamala harris. zelensky even revealed details of the plan to us congressmen when they met. this weekend in italy, and the spanish news agency reports that zelenskyi is working on a one-sided deal a road map that aims to end

the war in ukraine already this fall. how realistic is it that this very victory plan, which zelensky wants to present to washington, can specifically contain, and the main question: is there even the slightest sign that the kremlin will agree with the ukrainian plan in part or in full. andriy vesylovskyi, extraordinary plenipotentiary, joins our broadcast. adviser to the director of the national institute for strategic studies, good evening, good evening, let's start by discussing this plan of the victory of ukraine, which volodymyr zelenskyy is preparing and which he wants to present to the american side, what do you think this plan can significantly differ from all previous ones, what it can be about, why now, and most importantly, what can be the role of kursk in this plan operations? it's original. the task of discussing a plan that, about which we know nothing, but let's try, i think that the main details of the plan will emerge, if not today, then tomorrow, because

president zelensky has already told some parts of them to the american congressmen, so there will be leaks, the republicans will describe them in the washington times, and the democrats - the washington post, and because... what is this plan, how can it differ from the previous plans, which we also don't know much about, these were all sketches, this were general statements, obviously meant as a special emphasis of the role of the kurdish operation in the current conditions, the entry of ukrainian troops into the territory of the russian federation, its occupation. and maintenance for a long time, well, the time that we want under these conditions, should be emphasized at the event

this is the opinion that we are promoting all the time, that our armed forces are powerful, that our fighting spirit is high, that the quality and quantity of our weapons is great, and we can continue to wage war with the russian federation, and there is nothing to do. to worry about us, to worry, and the fact that there are some retreats, in donbas or in some other place, well, the course of the war, one way or another, the course of the war may be some, but if we exert ourselves, we will be able to do more, and therefore, if we had been given a little more weapons, and if our funding had not been cut, the war could have gone on be even more positive. positive for us, worse for the russian federation, so we are in a good position, and we can start preliminary talks about some kind of armistice or

stopping the war or something else, and by the way, by the way, wait a minute, why did you only use a truce? i will either stop the war, because right now in political circles i hear the main discussion, if volodymyr zelenskyi is preparing something, then what exactly is he preparing? armistice plan, pla, cease-fire plan, or victory plan? but for me, for example, this question is also unclear, i don't know, maybe you have more assumptions, today a significant part of the ukrainian territory is occupied by the russian federation, the constitution of the russian federation contains a provision that even more territory than actually exists now also belongs to the russian federation. no one in the russian federation refuses any of these points, moreover, one of the conditions, as we remember, was putin's. the fact that ukraine

stops shooting, stops defending itself, and russia takes these territories for itself, and only after that, some conversations begin, eh, what will happen next, will there be peace, or there will be an armistice and so on, and the terms will be negotiated on this basis, and not on the basis even of the present day. therefore, talk about her peace, based on ambitions. there is no basis for the russian federation today, we can only talk about a truce, moreover, signing a peace agreement when our territories are occupied means somehow recognizing them as not our territories. i think that peace negotiations are impossible under such conditions. well, by the way, you heard, i just quoted both shoigu and piskov, they say in one voice

about the fact that... that they are not interested in peace talks or ending the war, as long as the ukrainian, ukrainian military is in the kurdish territory, i don't know, maybe on the one hand it can be perceived as categoricalness that has not changed, on the other hand , they no longer have any rhetoric regarding donbas, for example, or they used to say there, first you will leave zaporizhzhia or kherson, which is where we are, where we fled from and which we have not captured yet, and then we will talk, agree on something . now they say, we will not talk until ukrainian troops in kursk region, perhaps this is just a sign of the weakening of the russian side, or not? today, the ukrainian side is in a somewhat, i would say privileged, better position, and the world looks at us with attention, sympathy or support, and russia, even its closest, so to speak, is a friend of the same, the same china.

is seen as a state that is at least strange, if not inconsistent and imperfect and wrong, so if that is why it is critical for russia to enter the so-called negotiated peace process, it means that comrade putin will meet herr scholz and talk with him at tables of different lengths, which means that all contacts will be restored. between the russian military, between russian businesses and the westerners whom they will persuade, today they are all closed, today they cannot get there, today no one listens to them, even those who want to listen are afraid to do so, because public opinion spells, but in this case, as soon as some negotiation process begins, even an illusory one, they everyone returns to the world, so to speak,

exits the world ramp. they all become subservient, they return to the civilized world, and this is what they desperately need, because with this you can quietly restore bness as usual, you can talk about the sale of raw materials, about the purchase of chanel number five, which is currently in short supply in moscow and so on and so forth, this is exactly what should not happen... the spirit of any subsequent meeting or negotiation process, or whatever it is called, should be like this: russia was forced, russia was brought and put, well, don't like those people or non-people in 45th year in berlin, but something similar must be felt in the air, she lost, she did not achieve, she is

about... she is forced, this should be the position or the platform from which to start , but do you feel, but do you feel it in the air, that is what you just announced, that russia can be forced into a negotiated peace on the terms of ukraine, that russia finds itself in such circumstances where it can agree to this, today blinkin confirmed that russia did get iranian ballistic missiles, and that's it definitely not... does not characterize it as a weak one, and i did not say that we should agree to these negotiations, i just hold the opinion that until there are serious long-range weapons in ukraine, until these weapons cause serious, noticeable losses to the russian federation, it is impossible to go to any negotiations and any conversations with it, in russia.