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citizens, we wish good luck to these beautiful uavs in the murmy region, which is true, people are told that it's just that they are checking the alert system, call it whatever they want, the main thing is to have a good result. we are that sometimes we will talk about ukraine and the zaporizhzhia region, in our studio olga vakalo, a journalist of the zaporizhzhia radio station. mrs. olga, i congratulate you, i congratulate you and i congratulate the viewers of your favorite tv channel. i'm looking at you, but until now... another rocket came to us at 11:12 bound for zaporizhzhia, that is, how hard are you there? well, but, unfortunately, it's common. during the break, you and i talked about the fact that the weather changed suddenly and suddenly, it was warm, warm, it got colder here, and we understand that in the context it is getting colder, so it is not only necessary for rockets to prepare not only for drones, for constant shelling, but also for the heating season, for the fact that... it will be dark and cold, and precisely

in zaporizhzhia, this is probably the only region in the country where there are forecasts that it is necessary to prepare for a complete blackout in winter, that is, not just to prepare generators so that electricity can be provided for a few hours, but to the fact that nothing at all may happen, how do you prepare, do you not prepare and in general, how does the population perceive it, well, it was a very hot summer, just everyone indicators... the roots were broken and because of this there were many shutdowns in july and august, and at that moment it was difficult to imagine that it was necessary to prepare for the fact that there would be a very cold and fierce winter, maybe even fierce in every sense, of course, it was difficult, our both the city and regional authorities, which are now surprisingly synchronized, claim that we are preparing and will be ready, well, let's see, of course, i won't say what's there... adds to optimism, at least

we understand that work is being done and we understand to what extent it is difficult to do this, because the personnel potential, if we are talking about utilities services, now there is a big problem and a great need for personnel who could serve the worn-out old utility system, and if we talk about the risks of what happened in the summer, and about the hits that, unfortunately, there were. and what, well, in zaporizhzhia there were the biggest points of impact, which related to the dniproges dam and everything that generates electricity, and this, well, unfortunately, is gone, so we understand how serious everything is in winter, however, when we were meeting with the newly elected, secretary of the city council, executor, the role of the city mayor, the role, duties of the city mayor, and they talked about the need to organize...

an information campaign regarding the heating season, then it was perceived as if it was necessary, but nothing was done, and we will not intimidate them, but again. this is the attitude towards citizens, consumers of information, like weak children, to whom the main thing is not to scare, it is better to show some candy and talk about the fact that somehow we will get through, here we will get through somehow, well, at least communication with, well, i can't say , that we directly collect information and can this is some kind of sociology, but very many or those who have lost everything, or those who somehow... we sweat, and that's it, unfortunately, well, it's the people, how they perceive it, people understand what people, people perceive, somehow we sweat, because from 22 in 2018, everything is blackout, nothing will happen, well, we are still in zaporizhzhia, we have been since march 4, 22nd, when

it was burning, everyone saw how the nuclear was burning, and then there was a question, well, who was there, who saved children, who gathered very quickly and left, the panic was very serious, because for more... it was already the end of us, we all understood that it's 10 chernobyls, and we're here and that's all, and due to the fact that this is already our 24th year and it's already september 11 , 24th, this is all perceived, unfortunately, by many, that somehow we'll get through it, but how it is perceived as such, well, i understand that this is a trolling petition, but it has an absolute basis, a great friend of the russian people, grosiy, regularly comes to kiss... at the occupied zaporizhia nuclear plant, and this petition appeared to invite him, but i still offered to place in a hotel on naberezhnaya in nikopol kraniak margentsi, how much is this a media component, and how much is it all made up, put into this picture

of this one, i think, well, one could have guessed about mutuality, but this kiss and hug is so obvious and expressive... decency, this is where we remember the brezhnev era and these lip-to-lip kisses and that's something, but the most terrible thing is that, in fact, all the time , magate is completely detached from the topic of using nuclear weapons as a shield to bombard nikopol, they talked about it. it seems to me that these mackenzie researchers, the agency, which exactly, well, they were addressed in information campaigns, because rosnya constantly blames ukraine, according to rosnya’s calculations, we already have 800 of our drones there,

we spent two months there, april-may , to bomb our nuclear power plant, that’s how we ordered research and they give just independent analytics that this is not the case, so they are one of the first... these are the british, they, they were one of the first back in the 22nd to say that about this danger of being used as a shield, and that they were shelling, nikopol, shelling the dnipro region, and it is very, very dangerous, and we cannot answer, on the other hand, magate did not react to it at all, because they are only for atomic safety, nuclear safety, and what is already being shot there, who is at whom, is none of their business, and we are there we do not climb with our little white hands, and here it is, well, it is really nice that... they are talking about it, although we understand that it is more just to raise this wave, a very big wave was also raised here in zaporizhzhia, in our radio studio on touch were representatives of greenpeace, sean burney and ian van deputte, they are such, they zealously cheer for ukraine, they come to

zaporizhzhia, they are not afraid to come, and here they try to at least somehow raise information, to support all this, so they have been sounding the alarm since march 24 that rusnia is going. start the reactor, and this categorically changes the security situation, that is , the fact that now, when all six reactors are in a state of cold shutdown, and the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant today is seven very dangerous facilities, six reactors and one where all the waste is stored, then if they are in a state of cold stop for the time being, this is one the situation, and even if something terrible happens, it’s 30-50 km, even the magate... does not recommend restarting, this is after the waves have risen, and that’s all yes, this is already a result that the magate does not recommend, and they they said: well, we won’t be yet, because this year it’s been 50 years since the construction of the nuclear power plant, and rusniazh says that they built it,

and here is ukraine, and here is zaporizhzhia, the zaporizhzhia region, the soviet union, well, that is, russia was building, they want to mark this event, the mayor will start the reactor. energodar dmytro orlov is sure that it is all informational juggling anyway, because there are absolutely no opportunities there. to do this, but to keep everyone safe and constantly in this way, with such blackmail, to extract something new for yourself from this situation, that is what this situation is used for, but not only the gift of energy and not only there is actually a threat of such a catastrophe, because there is also dniproges, and regularly, when there is shelling, when there are threats of shelling, we have the closure of the dam for traffic, so that a tragedy like this does not happen again it was with... a trolley bus, i think, when it was transporting workers, but i know that

in my opinion last year, yes, in the summer of last year , they planned to close this dam for complete reconstruction before the war? the dniproges is closed all the time, because there is danger all the time, and it is worn out, the dam itself, the dam itself, actually about how it can withstand it, and well, those attacks, which were the most terrible on march 22 and on the night against the first che. .. in june, these were attacks of seven rockets at one point, because they know this point at which to hit in order to from the dam, in order to destroy the dam, it miraculously survived, and this very place is being repaired, and i remember very well how on march 24, when i was traveling by transport, they let one lane at a time, on the 22nd, because on the night of 1 in june there was a more serious attack, and then there was the first one on march 22, this is the 24th of this year, and i remember... that when we were driving and looked at what was happening, and i cried myself, and there i cried half the way, so what, well, it’s

the impression that you are torn, well, that is , this dam that has been with you all your life, well, i was born in zaporizhzhia, and here the eyes are torn out pieces, we saw on august 18, 1941, these nkvd officers blew up, and it was a terrible picture, and then many people died, that is , there were these illustrations, but it was perceived as something very distant and terrible crimes. of the soviet authorities, and when it is here, now it is being repaired and made so that there is only one lane on which you can drive, one or two lanes at that point, and do it correctly, because there were these thoughts, what is the point of repairing, if they will be anyway shelling, but zaporizhzhia is a city that cannot do without this transport artery, firstly, secondly, if it is not repaired, they will definitely hit the same point and they will get their way, that is , here we are like ants, only hit, well, everyone hit at once. rallied and stuck something over there , patching, patching, and people understand that this is a place of increased danger, i'm talking

about the fact that they no longer sit, do not film, do not watch, as there is an attempt, there are agents, there are those who film , and the most terrible thing is that these eagles, who see, well, we can’t shoot them down, are already the last, many of the last attacks were not even because of the gunners, but because of what rusna has the ability to see it, to adjust it through. they covered the dam, fortunately there were no hits then, but well, there is always a risk of this and that is why there too, well, i really want to say the last word, the very last word, there was heavy shelling on the night of the third, well, the second of september, that’s when people died, after there are also hits, but fortunately no casualties, but... if we go back to such intensity of shelling, we, we all the time talk about the experience of kharkiv, well, we understand that in the city

there is simply communication, the metro is a force , here at the current war, about such shelling, is that in kyiv, in the dnipro, in kharkiv, in zaporizhzhia , there is no, accordingly, this conversation about the fact that schools in zaporizhia will be done one after the other, we have heard since the beginning of the summer, it is already an academic year and so... but there were no stories actually with the fact that the numbers did not voice something, how will i end the history of schools, it is such a very painful point, i am fortunately a little in this topic, because i even led something there was buried there , there it is such a multi-layered topic, what is called underground schools is a popular name, in fact, these are radioactive radioactive shelters, anti-radiation shelters, which, well... these are dual-purpose buildings, five of them began to be built, there is a base where it can be done,

so there was a nuclear reactor nearby, accordingly , the infrastructure was still old to use, look, no, this everything is new, this new one is being built, the old ones go there, i don’t know why, this is a forbidden closed topic, they are at all metallurgical enterprises, here we have a factory district, the factory district, it is called in the people, pavla kichkas, and there it is there is something that tells us that you can live there for a long time. in bunkers and everything else, well, that is, the same zaporizhiastal, when we mention azovstal, there is illicha, well, that is, all of these things that you do not know about now, and there is a big question, because it is at the expense of the state. these five and then one more school with some kind of mixed funds, these are large funds, and this is a state subvention, and the activists, those who are in the topic, have a question, should it not be worth simply strengthening and making shelters, which are also dual purpose in schools and not to close schools, because the wave of protests was very serious, when at the beginning of summer in the first days

the city council voted to close, well , not 30 schools were planned, a wave rose, that wave was stopped, but a few schools. closed, there are explanations, and we even had public hearings, we managed to get activists, we managed to hold them, i even presided over these public hearings, but they were already held after some schools were closed, sergey gorbachev, who himself comes from zaporizhzhia, the first educational shoemaker, reassured the parents, explained the situation, it became more or less adequate, and the city reacted, the city government you have to give credit, i listened, and now it's already some kind of joint actions, there are six... well, so far five, they will be completed by the end of autumn, they are still being built, and this will allow another 800 students, well, these are the words of ivan fedorov, 800 students, to add for today, at the beginning of the new academic year they reported about 46 thousand students who can now study in a mixed format, that is, here and there alternating

form and distance and face-to-face, but face-to- face, well, almost all learning takes place in the basement. premises, when everyone is together, it is very complicates the educational process itself, but this was so much sought after, i will tell you for comparison, this is 46 reported and 122 schools of the region opened, in the temporarily occupied territory of the zaporizhzhya region, yabalytskyi reported that 46 left here, and there 54 thousands of students left and 400 first-graders, who in... in their heads are fighting their heroes and that is, hatred for ukraine, and this is a very serious topic that we distance ourselves from, postpone, because security issues are the first, but we understand that the third the school year goes on, and there are many students, and there already now there is no possibility without russian passports and without something like that, well, everything is being watched, and everything is being reported, and by the end

of the year there will be a strip, it's actually near the front. zone, i am talking about the front-line zone in the territory under the control of kyiv, where in principle there is no question of face-to-face education , not now, but certainly for the whole academic year , that’s for sure, how this issue is resolved there, because we know that from many populated areas families with children have not left, that the children study remotely, is such an option actually possible, maybe you are already working on somehow organizing at least partially face-to-face training. i don't know, maybe during the school year, so that these families with children would move, so that the children could integrate and study, because this is also the quality of education, and our graduates suffered a lot from this this year, it was obvious, four years of distance education, those who entered higher education, directly, although they were amazing, brilliant children who showed and even scored 200 points, but this, if you take the system,

it is a serious big gap, such a big gap, in relation to... i have been out for literally two days ago i spoke with a military officer about the direction of orihiv, he says, there is no building in orihiv anymore, there is no museum left in orihiv, walk around the field, we talked to you then, there was still a makhna museum, it is a historical building, and it is such a pain, of course, that we will rebuild, but this is a historical building, and neither in orikhov, nor in guliipol, well, orikhov in particular, there is not a single intact building today, there are no children in orikhov. on what lane, at what width from the front line are such destructions? they reach vilniansk, they are very close they reach zaporizhzhia, they are still destroying vilniansk, such a good piece, i look on the map how many kilometers are there from the front line , i will tell you for sure, well, it is somewhere, well , it is already flying 25-30 km away, so it is exactly

in the zone 20 25-30 km, and 30 km to zaporizhzhia, they are now us'. so we understand that they are not ironing and ironing zaporizhia now, what is happening in kharkiv is not happening, because firstly, they are still sure that they will take zaporizhzhia, and they will get it, and secondly, there is no expediency now military, that's it to act so that no one gets to live like in kharkiv, and to capture after all, that is why vilniansk, our free city, is now being fought back, and all these front-line children are also suffering in... or remotely in their schools, which have been relocated, remotely , or now it is a big one, so the question is being resolved that all relocated communities of the zaporizhia region go to... their children go to school, they can study together with children from zaporizhia, so that there is no such difference here. well, here are 3 years of actually harsh

occupation, you have already mentioned the children, them it is the easiest to reflash, you can put any stalinist filth into your head, no less a stalinist works there, he once had the opportunity to communicate with yevgeny balitsky in the days of his party of regions, he is such a condo scoop, such a stalinist. from russia, they were brought to berdyansk and to melitopol, but when we cross this front line and beyond, how does it fall or increase, how does this readiness for collaboration of zhduna look in general, because we see everywhere, well, everywhere, they are everywhere, even in lviv there are those here. vodovniki izhdony, so what does it look like there? unfortunately, it exists, i'm the only one here i will say that not only children are the easiest to rewire, but older people are also very easy to return to the matrix from which some may

have left, some may not have left, and if you take it here, it is also felt, although i will not say that there is no ageism, there are really a lot of them here, i don't know any komsomol members who have never known. savka, but they think and think, it’s just as easy to work, and unfortunately, all this is and well, such patterns of behavior, unfortunately, they also exist in local authorities, and here, of course, they do not talk about the fact that they are waiting for someone there, but their actions are definitely not democratic and definitely not pro-ukrainian after those harsh mass shellings in zaporizhzhia, well, then it sounds russian, has something changed like that... did you notice that zaporizhzhia sounds russian, unfortunately, and it's in waves, there were waves when directly, well, after the 22nd start of the full-scale and full-blooded war of this dimension

, ukrainian was spoken, and it was directly felt, how people try, get confused, they don't succeed, but they still make their way in ukrainian, then there was a setback , then ukrainian again some waves there after the mass, well, october 22nd, when these first destruction of buildings, old buildings, and when it became clear... who is it, now, unfortunately, there is this moment, which is a very advantageous position, ours are also fighting in russian , ukraine is defended in russian, don't pressure me, don't force me, i love ukraine in russian, and let me, that is , understanding that what i always say, that now russian is killing, that is, this is a postulate, now russian kills, when it stops killing, we will think about what to do next, but here now killing well, it requires work, although we recently discussed it in a discussion that the language goes in waves, it really is a wave, then a rollback, then a wave rollback again, but these waves are getting further and further away, and zaporizhzhia is ukrainian,

it is ukrainian, well it is the cossack is somewhere there on such a metaphysical level that it still manifests itself, in zaporozhye it's just different, it can't be like that, mrs. olga, thank you for what you said, you can just feel it. a little, as it is in zaporizhzhia, unfortunately, not very, not very fun. olga vakalo was with us, a journalist from zaporizhzhya radio station, and on this topic, roman and i will also say goodbye today. we remind you that our collection is ongoing, donate any moment when you have such an opportunity, take care of yourself , we wish you a peaceful and safe day, and remember, the air raid signal is for us. see you soon. tired of a mess in the kitchen,

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