it is already a separate case here, in the first place, some kind of protocol should be signed between poland and ukraine so that it would be possible to react exactly in such cases, and also the panelist would like to ask you about the ukrainian-polish defense projects in the context of the arms exhibition in kielce in poland, mspo is currently one of the largest arms exhibitions. in eastern europe, i know that you attend every exhibition, you can compare, and here is what was so interesting and important in the context of ukrainian-polish military cooperation, in fact, what kind of such large-scale polish-ukrainian projects might it have been difficult to see something like that, it would not have been like, for example, you could see 2000.

thank you very much for your explanations, for your comments, let me remind you that it was dariusz materniak, head of...

the poland-ukraine research center, he spoke about the prospects for cooperation between ukraine and poland, and the main problem or accentual topic is precisely the situation with the formation of the ukrainian legion in poland, this project needs attention so that it was really implemented in a fairly short time, relying on the help, first of all , of western partners and our diplomats and our citizens who are currently in poland. these were the main military results of this day, then the broadcast will be continued by vasyl zima, so stay tuned to the espresso channel. thank you, serhiy zgurtsyu, thank you to his guest, reminding that the air alert is ongoing, well, in fact , half of the territory of our country is now under threat of russian ballistics, it is kyiv region, cherkasy region, kirovohrad region, dnipropetrovsk region, zaporizhzhia, donetsk, poltava che'.

sumy, kharkiv, luhansk regions, well , the autonomous republic of crimea is a constant threat there, so stay in the safest places possible, ballistics is a serious threat, you all know this very well, and we will contribute to the needs of the armed forces of ukraine, we continue our the large-scale collection, which we will definitely close, has already reached the amount of 2 million, but we still need to push, as they say, the espresso tv channel and the vesna charitable fund. continue fundraising for the purchase of modern drones and systems electronic warfare, which is very important at the front. we are collecting for the needs of the third separate assault brigade, as well as the 110th and 47th mechanized brigades of the armed forces of ukraine. our defenders in the donetsk direction every day hold back enemy attacks, defend our freedom and future. it was these soldiers who stood to the last and defended the avdiiv direction in the spring. you can see all the details on your screens. there

is also a threat in dnipropetrovsk region, but we will talk with kateryna nemchenko, deputy of the dnipropetrovsk regional council, ms. katerina, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, congratulations. the enemy attacked dnipropetrovsk region today, unfortunately, there are casualties, there are casualties, well, perhaps more information has become available now, i hope that the number of casualties and casualties has not increased, but in general, if we talk about this enemy attack, then tell us more about it, please, today dnipropetrovsk region suffered from shelling, in principle, i added, it also started with the fact that six shaheds were shot down by our air defense over the territory of the region. glory. because we can definitely point out that if they were not shot down, then the consequences could be worse than what we have now, it was the kryvorizhsky district that was attacked most of all today, oh kamyanskyi, kamyanskyi district, i'm sorry, we have

one dead person, this is a 38-year-old man, very this is bad news for us, and as of now, there was originally information about two. victims, specifically wounded, as of this hour, we have updated information that these are four povinas. volunteer centers that help internally displaced persons, and there are also many private volunteer initiatives, if for resettlement, then in general, or people who... have suffered in their territories from russian aggression or people who are resettled there from destroyed houses already and in dnipropetrovsk oblast, resettlement takes place in dormitories, if we are talking about communal institutions, if we talk about

who is there to acquaintances, someone rents apartments, there are also certain problematic issues with this, but in general the situation is that it is more or less possible to find something and... and these are also private volunteer initiatives that also help, there is one for displaced persons from the city of bakhmut, a separate volunteer center was opened there, there are others, but one cannot be singled out, because this is such a complex complex approach to this, so as far as i know, there is no big shortage of anything or a big problem with it, well, the only thing is that people still need a lot. when moving without belongings, so of course it is, well, actually, about help, 10 million hryvnias of subsidies were allocated to pavlograd, a city that suffered significant destruction during the last rocket attack, the funds will go to the restoration of social institutions, and also the hostel where the displaced people currently live, what exactly are you talking about, the hostels,

there the windows will replace the doors, on the repair of the roof will be financed in the local budget, well, just for the city of pavlograd, 10 million, i understand that the budget now... has huge gaps and, well, there are various articles, this does not mean that some articles should not be financed due to a lack funds for other expenses, well, but this is a daily problem, here is 10 million for pavlograd, as you estimate, and again it is a question, and other funds from the local budget, it is for pavlograd to decide whether the region also joins this, if to talk about the budget of the city of pavlograd, the city council there, yes... then all the consequences that exist there are not as great as those after this shelling, then they were provided by this local budget, of course, because of this terrible event that was , there is already a subsidy here, but i do not participate there

in the distribution of these funds personally, as far as i know from specialists who deal with this, then this should be enough to cover these points, but again... if these resources are distributed fairly and normally, it is already the question is different, but in principle this should be enough to repair social institutions, that is, we understand that these are enterprises, and there are institutions and institutions that were damaged, so it should be enough for this, and that's it another question again, without revealing any details about which the enemy. it is not necessary to know, at least with our help, for sure, in kharkiv it was also about other regions, now not only the energy industry is trying to hide or concrete or hide certain distribution stations there or even these networks

are also somehow thinking about how to hide them underground, well, so that the current does not go through the ground, does not kill people, but to isolate there is a different question, but a very important topic is schools, especially. preschool institutions and, of course, comprehensive schools, because the enemy, as practice has shown, is already a fresh, terrible story, the enemy is attacking educational institutions and higher educational institutions, comprehensive secondary education institutions, where our children receive their education, is the question of the construction of underground schools even raised in the dnipro , is it still the case in the region, or is it a question of the fact that there is a shelter for the equipment and the children will be able to get down in time, it is enough, because even if we had seen in poltava, they would not have had time to get down to the shelter, and they are not even children , this there were already students, as far as i understand , and... well, as of now, we do not foresee that any underground

works for education will be carried out, that is , there will be no institutions, i think that such a thing will be provided, this is a very important issue, but if you say about the fact that the process is now mixed, there is the first form, well, the market form of education, there is the evening form of education and there are also classes that have been moved online, it is well... so mixed, everyone studies plus or minus, so everyone is very well trying to protect children and employees of educational institutions during air alarm, that's why no one here is definitely oiling up, really, well, there is a threat that you might not be in time, especially since everything can fly to the dnipro very quickly, but we're not talking about underground schools right now, so maybe it will be... we continue to have such a dynamic, but as of now, there are no such conversations, well, i am,

we have already, unfortunately, time has run out, then, i think that the questions that i have, and there will still be time to ask, thank you thank you for your comments, take care, kateryna nemchenko, deputy of dnipropetrovsk regional council, i remind you once again that almost half of ukraine is now red, air alert, ballistic threat, they write about it, but so far i have not read about... launches, about explosions, about shooting down, about the work of air defense, but the threat , the threat is relevant, at least for the left bank, well, there is the left bank, a little bit of the right bank, there from the dnipro, but in general , we are mainly talking about the left bank of ukraine, now we will talk, well, we are talking about the right left bank, now we will talk about water, threats, rumors and realities, this definitely worries many kyivans now, well to everyone who lives above kyiv to the north , we... will talk about the poisonous stain that wove the seim with its gum in the direction of the dnipro. dmytro novytskyi is with us, president of the

ukrvodokanal ecology association. mr. dmitry, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear, i hope that, because i, i am a simple evening, you know, i have read so much different information, which i think, everyone who has recently been interested in the fact that everyone in kyiv will die , to the point that there is no threat at all, everything will be cleared, everything will be fine, and no longer... knows where to look for gold here the middle, in a word, as of now, i read that the pollution as of september 11 is simple, well, it came from russia, there they say that it is a sugar factory, it was such a statement, something was leaked, it went through the diet, through the gums, the gums falls there, well, there is also the dnipro. so, as of september 11, the pollution has spread to the gums, the worst water samples are in chernihiv and the village of boromyki, in sumy oblast there is a tendency to improve the quality of water in the seim dyke, fish are breeding there and so on, and it actually goes to kyiv, tell me. please, from what is known now, real the situation where this stain is advancing, and then we'll move on to what kind of stain is it, because

natural in nature, unnatural in nature, how dangerous is it, and is there any way to stop it, please, well, first of all , i would like to say that there are currently a lot of rumors and insinuations surrounding the quality of drinking water in the water supply system of the city of kyiv, and i want to assure you quite responsibly that it fully complies with state sanitary rules and regulations, therefore it is completely safe, it can be consumed, yes indeed, there have already been several reports, let's say so, this is not our area of ​​responsibility, where did it come from, what exactly got into the river, i can only use the statements made by the ministry of the environment and the prime minister regarding the entry of pollutants things from the factory that produces sugar, these were the so-called

sediments, production waste, and it was from there that they got into the seim river, and there, i think, 190 km along the river itself, and then this spot of pollution got to the gums and reached chernihova, we have been here for several days together with the chernihiv... canal, we monitor the quality of water in the desna river, precisely in order to understand how to rebuild our technology, which is used in kyiv, because... i would like to note that only artisanal water is used in chernihiv, i.e. their situation with disney with disney is less disturbing, because it does not affect the quality of water supply in chernihiv itself, that is why we established such cooperation and we clearly understand the situation, at least in chernihiv, thank

god, today we are already talking to the director, there is we can already see it. and already improvement of certain indicators, however, many people saw the amount of fish, dead fish, the biota that lives in the river, unfortunately, due to the decrease in the amount of oxygen in the water, it died, and this also affects the quality indicators of the source water, which may fall into the structures of the kyiv waterworks, i.e., well, the situation is exactly like this, and, i.e. this fish that dies, it also adds more, well, as they say, these risky, these dangerous substances into the water, if we talk about the scale of this stain, well, we have time today talk already then, i will ask about everything, because you know, i live in the north of kyiv, and there is desna, well, there are several settlements, and there is already desenka,

well, right next to it, and odessa is a little further, and listening to people who leave there for kyiv. there is a swelling and so on, and even then i heard different stories, so while there was no light, you sit under the porch and listen to people bringing out fish with kamazes, taking them out, it is just a disaster there, others say that there are no kamazes, and what are you, well, in one word, that is , people, they, someone who saw something, someone who told, there are a lot of rumors, but again, what kind of stain is this, and i heard 150 versions of what kind of stain is it, or why it cannot be stopped or removed, let's say there are oil stains, well to... just for people, people detail, people understood that it is possible to do, it is impossible to do, these threats we just have to accept, be ready for them, we can't prevent them now, for one of those reasons, please, well, i can comment, again after all, i cannot competently comment on the water quality situation, because the state water agency,

the ministry of the environment, etc., are responsible for this, but i can clearly say that all state services, all state institutions. got involved to the full extent, the local authorities got involved, and the amount of water that is called is really taken out, really collected precisely in order to improve the quality of water in the river itself, so that the river will then make such a self-revelation, but for this it is necessary to remove that garbage, that for the fish that died, precisely in order not to increase the same effect, and that the damage has already been done, today the ministry of the environment... the number was announced, the damage to the environment alone was 470 million uah, that's what i heard, maybe i'm wrong, but the amounts are really crazy, we will have to restore and stock our rivers for years, because there are really a huge number of fish, well, different ones there

inhabitants, underwater inhabitants, they died even now... all this will have to be restored, but we as water utilities are interested, as the kyiv water utility is interested in the quality of water in the desens, because the water supply system of the city of kyiv is distributed, we have two large stations, the desnyansk station, which takes water from desny, the dnipro station, which takes water from the dnipro, there are a number of artesian water stations that take. water from underground, earth, by the way, by the way, you mentioned it, i’ll ask right away, because later i’ll forget, and well , i’m also interested in it, in principle, i think, like most ukrainians, well, kyivans there, can afford to buy this bottled water in any chain of stores there, but of course, if there is a pump station, why spend more, you can go and collect water in a pump station, but i have

a question, pump water, because when did these pump stations even under the late oleksandr oleksandrovich omerchenko, i remember... then they talked about the fact that there are deep horizons, artesian water, and here i have a question, this is all over kyiv, the water that can be taken from the pump station, it is deep drilling and whether it is safe in any case or not, because it is important for people, right now it is necessary, well, in any case, people need to sign up for water, because when there are risks, let that drinking water stand there, it is nobody, it don't panic, it's just normal, normal preparation for possible situations, is there still water there? and higher, as they say, lying, and therefore, well, it is risky, because something can also get there, please tell me more, well, look, indeed, the system of artesian pumping stations was deployed. it also seems to me, there since 2006 or before 2006, and then later a special enterprise kyivvod, kyiv votfond, was created, which maintains these

pumping stations, they are systematically monitored, they are repaired, the wells are restored, where necessary , additional treatment systems are installed, and that is why , that there are certain rules and requirements to of artesian water, which is intended for consumption. therefore, i know the head of this enterprise, the head of this enterprise, and i know that this is a responsible person, he knows for sure that e-e additional equipment was specially prepared specifically to work in the mode of power outage, so that kyivans could be provided in case, well , let's say this, military shutdowns or emergency shutdowns of our pumping stations, that is, the system... is deployed, it is sufficiently reliable, it is an alternative decentralized water supply system of the city of kyiv, it can also be used in any period when

additional needs for drinking water arise. everything, then, but this is a separate issue, we are responsible for the centralized water supply, drainage, well, this is water in the sense of taking water from the bulletin so that there is drinking water, again, this is clear, and here is what i want to explain. to kyivans, very kyivans, to the residents of our agglomeration in general, about the fact that the system is quite complex, it is ringed, that is, we have several sources of water supply, of course, if there are certain threats to the reduction of the quality of drinking water, we do not have the right to supply untreated water or purified water not up to the quality required by sanitary rules and regulations, therefore we foresee... the possibility of compensating for the reduction of water supply from the desnya station through other sources, i.e. from the dnipro station we will raise and feed into the network from artesian sources as well, but i have to

say that we are preparing for some worst-case scenarios, but we expect a realistic scenario, that is, it is important here it is important to understand that if water is not drinkable even boiled. relatively speaking, well, there is such a thing as it, then it will not be in the faucet, you open the faucet, and there will be no water, so they will tell you, wait, there is a problem, there is a cleaning process, we are changing the source of water supply there, and that is, a person , when she turns on the screen in kyiv, she understands, it means that this water can be, well, at least boiled and drunk, and if there is no water at all, then there is a problem that needs to be eliminated, untreated water that can lead to disease, i am not talking about death, let there be some problems, it will not be fed into the taps. yes, absolutely, but we are preparing for an absolutely normal realistic scenario, because our technological capacities, they are

large enough to supply and process the water that will enter our clean these capacities, and in addition we will apply more technology, which involves the use of activated carbon, everyone knows that this is an excellent sorbent, which it has. extra smells, extra substances that got into the water in connection with this pollution, because we we know for sure, and there have already been several statements , including by environmental supervision bodies, that this is biological pollution, this is something that, in principle , the vodokanal should process and its technological capacities are designed for it, but we understand that the concentration that will get... to the diet , as a result to the gum, it was quite large, and we expect, indeed, that partially this concentration will enter,

or these pollutants will enter our treatment facilities, that is why we apply an additional technology, which involves the injection of activated carbon into a certain amount precisely in order to remove these extra substances, very briefly because... i am convinced that the water will be supplied to the network, which will comply with sanitary rules and regulations, and finally, very briefly, i would like to ask, well, everyone who has been to the gum understands that this is a very fast-flowing river and the stain will definitely take a year to kyiv, and will there be a notification of the population from what you know, when it will arrive and, again , what time can people approximately expect , not to panic, again, i will say in order to prepare drinking water, or to buy bottled drinking water in stores, or to get bottled water in... in buvet, just understand that these days, well, you have to listen to the news, follow the messages of the kyiv city administration, the mayor of the capital, kyiv the military, the regional administration, and

in general all the people who are there at kyivvodokanal. just be careful, when is it approximately, what calculations are there? today there were several statements from the ministry of the environment warning that this stain may reach kyiv around september 14-16. thank you very much for joining, thank you for your professional comments, for clarification, in fact, you have put a lot of things on the shelf today.