i suggest listening to what he said about personnel changes in the ministry of foreign affairs. ukraine should be fully understood in all partner countries, in particular in europe. ukraine needs much more meaningful relations and cooperation than it currently has with the countries of latin america, with the countries of africa and asia. we must realize the full potential of strategic relations with the united states. and with all countries that are key for their regions, but which do not yet have strategic relations with ukraine. we need a truly strategic level of cooperation. mr. volodymyr, this one the strategicness that president zelensky is talking about was not there before, was it not enough, was it related to the minister, and was it in general, well, in this situation, this rocking, in fact, does not

change anything in particular, because it is during the war one leader of foreign politicians, of foreign policy, is volodymyr zelenskyi. well, you are right, mr. serhiy, in the constitution of ukraine it is written in black and white that the president implements the foreign policy strategy of ukraine. well, all the others are the people who help him in this, and the ministry of foreign affairs of affairs, and the minister of foreign affairs, and the cabinet of ministers, as a collective. body and the verkhovna rada as a legislative body and so on and so forth, that is, it is a clearly built structure that ensures this single foreign policy course. of course, the ministry of foreign affairs plays an extremely important role, because it is the instrument through which the world is communicated directly. these

are the main ideas and messages that the president spoke about, but it is also necessary to understand that there are floors, so to speak, of this work, there is a working one, a ministerial one, and a political one presidential, political leader of the parliament, political leader of the government, that is , here, in my opinion, there should be a single, really, approach to... all issues, or, well, i want to go back to the first clip, which you posted about peace plan, is there a need for synergy of all these structures and elements of our foreign policy strategy, yes, of course , because without it we will not be able to ensure a general approach and a general general implementation of these processes, what are we talking about... is that the ministry of foreign affairs

can build a nuclear power plant somewhere in africa, no, he will never build one in his life, but we are talking about the fact that through the involvement of diplomats at the first stage, to study the possibilities of everything else and so on, it is possible to really reach some necessary, interesting for ukraine's things, and political, and economic, and military, and the list goes on, so i think that here we should really talk about such ... a general approach to solving all those things that we have on the agenda, in that including and relative to our progress on the south, that is, to africa, asia, latin america, but with all that, let's not forget that the largest and, i would say 99% of the aid to ukraine for defeating our enemy, is provided by the countries of north

america and western europe, that is, we must also understand that without their help all our beautiful political plans will not be implemented, which is why i think that this next zelenskyi-biden summit will be so important, zelenskyi's meetings during the work of the un general assembly, where he... will meet with many leaders of these countries of the west, so will others, but these negotiations will have a decisive influence on what is happening in ukraine today, and the political framing and involvement of the countries of asia, africa, and latin america in this process, of course, this is only a plus, and here we can say that the interaction of one with the other will give us the best result. thank you, mr. volodymyr, for the conversation. it

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americanist. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. yes, congratulations, good evening to you. so the first televised debate, harris and trump, is over, who... do you think won and who lost in this televised duel? well, let's say, it is difficult to determine the final winner precisely, because we have only a few polls have passed, cnn shows that the situation is really much better in harris, who won about six points of support, trump lost about two, but it can be said for sure that harris completely fulfilled the program she planned for the debate, she told everything, what she wanted, she spoke as she wanted, she caught trump on his... bones and at the same time trump really, well, at certain moments even lost his self-control, he succumbed to harris's provocative questions and dragged himself into the territory where he it was inconvenient to work and it was uncomfortable to speak, so in this way we can say that harris is most likely to be recognized as the winner of this round of debates,

how defining such televised debates are for the american voter, the role of debates has declined in the last few election cycles. because since the 16th year, we remember, trump had undivided control over them, because he was essentially just his assertiveness, his provocativeness, he could control what was said, how they were said, and exactly what they were saying, but this year, when we have a replacement candidate in the democratic party, in fact, in the middle of the election process, in the republican party there is a candidate that far from the whole party likes, who needs to be confirmed that he can still be the leader, despite all the problems that accompany his... campaign, then this year's debate had a very, very high value, they are really important, because for harris it is a chance to like a voter who does not know her, and about a third of the voters still have not formed at least a general opinion about harris, for trump it is an opportunity to return, to show again that he still

strong, that he still has powder in his powder kegs and the ability to lead the republican party, so specifically in this election cycle , the debate is of great importance, among... which garis and trump discussed at the debate this ukrainian issue kamala garis during the debate simply accused her opponent of flirting with dictator putin and emphasized the need for further support for ukraine. let's listen to what she said about the ex-president of the united states of america. i want the war to stop. i believe that when donald trump promises to end this war within 24 hours, it's because he would just give up, but that's not what we want as americans. the reality is that this is about america's position, as it should always be,

as a leading country that abides by international rules and norms, as a leader that demonstrates strength, understanding that the alliances we have around the world depend on our ability whether he wants the victory of ukraine in the war with russia, he only noted that the united states of america spends much more on this war than the european union and nato. let's listen to trump for balance. i want the war to stop. i want to save the lives of people who are dying in vain by the millions. much more than the numbers show us. you and biden don't have the guts to ask europe for money like i did for nato. they paid hundreds of billions of dollars when i told them, either you pay or we won't protect you anymore. do you think that the victory of ukraine

in this war is in the interests of the united states? i believe it is in the best interest of the united states to end this war, just to end it, to agree on... because we must stop the destruction of all these human lives. well, mr. oleksandr, there are two positions of the two leaders of the presidential campaign. and it is clear that we are interested in the policy of one candidate, another candidate in case of victory in the presidential elections of the united states of america, do you think that the policy will change radically, well , considering that the united states of america is not only the president , the leadership of the united states of america, these are institutions that work all over the world, including from ukraine. can we expect some drastic ones? changes in the event of trump's victory, although with kamala

harris, well, everything seems to be clear, she will continue the politics of joseph biden, or i 'm wrong, but actually, in general terms , what harris is talking about is really a reproduction of biden's politics, but we see several correct and essentially new narratives, that is, while biden always said that, accordingly, ukraine should be supported, saved and helped, because... it is a partner, an ally, haris first of all draws attention to the fact that ukraine should to help, because ukraine is first of all the question is strategic, it is a question of democracy fighting against dictatorship, it is a question of freedom fighting against slavery that is imposed, it is a question that allies cannot remain without support, and she also very correctly pointed out that putin in ukraine is not will not stop, putin has much more. you, that is, the security of ukraine is also the security of europe, accordingly, it is the security of nato, and therefore the security of the united states, that is

, unlike biden, she gave a much broader context of why ukraine should defend and why ukraine should win one way or another, so it will be biden, but you know, with improved ones, that is, a new tariff from biden. if we talk about trump, he essentially had two options, and he voiced them very clearly and quite a few times over the past six months. on the one hand, he said that he is ready to give ukraine twice as much as biden, he is ready to bomb moscow and beijing there if they repeat this aggression, on the other hand he said that ukraine is like afghanistan, and there is no need to deal with it, we need to do it sooner finish everything to call putin and zelenskyi and sign at least some kind of agreement, well, we see that , unfortunately, at the moment he is still inclined to the second version of this strategy, and it definitely does not play into the hands of ukraine's interests. well, in the previous conversation, i announced that referring to the ukrainian truth, that zelensky was supposed to meet with biden on friday, september 13, in fact

a refutation appeared, the error arose due to the incorrect interpretation of blinken's words at the press conference, it was about the fact that biden will meet with the prime minister of velika britain, not with volodymyr zelenskyi. keir starmer will be on friday 13 september and obviously there will be a discussion about the possibility of giving. country, to strike with long-range weapons that are manufactured in the united states of america and great britain, how do you, mr. oleksandr, assess such a possibility against the background of information about iran's supply of ballistic missiles to russia? this will be just the right response to the escalation that the islamic republic of iran has made, it will be the right response to the supply of their missiles, and of course it must be supplemented by the fact that... our western partners should provide us with a larger package of anti -cancer air defense as a direct response

to the fact that our civilians are now under even greater threat due to increased russian shelling and due to the reinforcement of russia precisely with the aral missiles, but it is also worth saying that the talks about the transfer of missiles and about granting permission to ukraine to strike deep into russian territory is also being conducted not only against the background of the transfer of missiles to iran, but also against the background of talks about negotiations, and this is exactly what... the west told us a long, long time ago that the main the task of the event is to ensure a strong position of ukraine at the negotiations, and what can better strengthen ukraine's position than supplying missiles that can really threaten the russians, prevent them from deploying a full-fledged defense, or rather a full-fledged defense, and at the same time prevent them from going on an active offensive , therefore one way or another, but in addition to a purely security issue, this is also a diplomatic issue, if ukraine is the last three months... we see how the president's office constantly emphasizes that there will be negotiations and they will be

in the near future, most likely, it will be in november, then if such negotiations are already starting, ukraine wants them, ukraine is ready to conduct them, then ukraine must enter into them from a strong position, and precisely the missiles, precisely the strengthening of our defense, both political and security, is exactly what should allow us to come out of the negotiations with russia with a winning solution, or could this be a potential solution? to influence the victory plan that zelenskyy talks about, which he announces, that is, the possibility of ukrainians hitting atakams on russian territory. federation will change the nature of the russian-ukrainian war and force putin to negotiate. this was not going to happen. that is, as you remember, when there was a conversation about preventing the recurrence of aggression, when in principle there was a conversation about the fact that the finalization of russian aggression should be supported not only by ukrainian membership in nato, not only by the return of our territories,

but also by the fact that russia will not be able to repeat such an aggression, it is precisely the presence of such missile systems that can destroy... russian infrastructure that can destroy russian centers for the accumulation of troops, which can destroy their ability to drive under the wing of shells, and so on, this is precisely the practical guarantee of the creation of a so-called sanitary zone, i.e., such a depth of territory on the territory of the russian federation, respectively, that russia will not be able to reach again with one powerful thrust to kyiv or to threaten ukraine and even more so to threaten big cities, so this is not only part of the negotiation. process, as you and i have discussed, this is really part of the solution to this problem, this is part of what can allow it is more difficult for ukraine to bargain with russia and literally present its demands, not just to make concessions and seek certain joint compromises. thank you, mr. oleksandr, it was oleksandr krayu, an expert of the ukrainian prism foreign policy council, an americanist, and

i remind you of our survey, please, we are asking you this today, have you watched trump's televised debates? and garis, so yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have any separate opinion, please write it in the comments under this video. if you are watching us on tv, please vote on the numbers 0800, 211 381, no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next , ihor romanenko, the founder of the benefit, will be in touch with us. fund for covering the sky of ukraine, lieutenant general, former deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine. mr. general, i welcome you, thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you. let's talk about these iranian ballistic missiles that came to russia, and that's it accomplished fact. the spokesman for the department of defense

of the united states of america, major general patrick ryder, confirmed the transfer of ballistic missiles by iran to russia. the short-range missile is active. let's hear what ryder said. the united states has confirmed reports that iran has transferred fath-360 short-range ballistic missiles to russia, which we estimate they could use against ukraine within weeks, killing even more ukrainian civilians. the creation of an integrated air defense system for ukraine has been going on for some time time, and we're going to... we're going to stop, and in the case of these missiles, while they will certainly be a threat, we're going to work with ukraine to make sure they have the capabilities they need to defend against these missiles and other missiles that russia is using, including drones. mr. general, what is the threat posed by these ballistic missiles that

have entered service with the russian federation, and can... they change the nature of the russian-ukrainian war? well, strategically, on character changes, no, it speaks of possibilities, and their range to 120 km, although it is a missile weapon, that is, it has the potential for damage, and the number of them is estimated at 200, which is quite a lot, but if, for example, the russian capabilities for s-300 missiles, they have about 500 missiles available, and therefore about the consequences for the wunderwaffe war in principle, this will not happen, but it is all the same potential and the characteristics of these missile systems are better

than the north korean ones on the one hand, and on the other hand. the iranians have, let's say, a wide range of different types, that is, apart from this fatha 360, there is a fatih 110 for 300-400 km, there is a zulfikar for 700, and there are missiles for 1000 km, and this is very significant, and it can be assumed that if the iranians spoke there at the time about the lack of transmission to shahedvi, we remember. the story that they denied until the last that they are transferring these ballistic missiles, then there may be a prospect of further transfer of other types of missiles, and this... this is such a serious, difficult, threatening prospect for ukraine, for the defense forces of ukraine. from the point of view of application

of the tactical level, it can take place as on objects at such a distance, well, close to the analogue of the point in the soviet union, which is, as we partially had, in the russians, which means that there is a danger to our populated areas, are from the contact line at a distance of up to 100 km, for example, as well as in military operations, for the russians to carry out offensive actions, for example, in the east of our country, the eastern front, or for their defensive actions, and now counter-offensive actions on the same battlefield, that is, if there is a tool, then it is used, where and for what, then... exactly appropriate threats the editor-in-chief of the defense express edition, serhiy sgurets , said on the espress air that the strengthening of russian strike

capabilities by iranian missiles can be leveled by granting permission to use american attacks deep into the territory of russia. let's listen to what zgurets said. when we will actually receive permission to use atakams with a range of 300 km and then in fact. the potential of these missiles, which have a range of 120 km, and therefore will carry out strikes in the range, well , actually this potential of russia acquiring new ones there impact capacity will be leveled at the expense of mr. general, how likely is it that the united states of america , in response to the actions of iran and ... russia , will still decide to give us such an opportunity to use atakams in strikes on the territory of russia? let's say now

the americans, and for example, among the british, because rather all this decision will be combined with the use of stom shedl on the relevant objects, have come as close as possible to such a decision. and this, including, i think, was discussed today with the representatives the heads of the ministry of foreign affairs, the united states and britain, who work in ukraine, in addition to the preparation of the peace plan itself, including these military aspects, were most likely discussed, they are very important, but here it must be borne in mind that if the permission is withdrawn , we should have with... the means of atakamsya, of which we have a small number, in order to destroy this additional missile resource that has already appeared

in the russians, that is, it is shooting, as the pposhniks say, at dagon, that is the threat is already there, she is appeared, now we need to think about how to deal with it, war, successful hostilities require working on... prejudice, and unfortunately, in the work of our allies, this prejudice is not observed throughout the entire large-scale warfare, and this situation must be corrected , and it is necessary to increase and accelerate the aid that was promised by the president of the united states of america, then we will see changes with the initiative. ready for battle, well, in ukraine. mr. general, president zelensky said that ukraine conducted the first missile tests,

long-range missile, but given the situation in the russian-ukrainian war, ukraine in this situation will need more time to build its missiles and create it in... the production of these missiles, obviously, and as far as we can deploy is this production and in the long run we should not wait for atakams and various types of long-range missiles from our western partners? well, according to the assessment of western experts, this concerns the program at the time from the general staff, which i led in the work with the relevant enterprises defense-industrial complex program. absan, later grom-2, perhaps this is what is meant, and it was started there from the 14th year and so on, but the

kremlin apologists. including those that we had here in the leadership of state structures, in every possible way hindered the promotion and financially stopped these programs and so on, and therefore, you see, a lot of time was spent on the fact that they would be conducted and brought to the level when a successful examination of this rockets, but the rocket is not in itself, it is a complex that was also demonstrated... on the avenue in our parades and the command post, but now it is necessary to complete this work, scale it up, here i agree with you, and it is precisely such a complex that we need in order not to walk around the world with an outstretched hand, but to have our own, our own effectively, and the characteristics of this complex are precisely such, therefore that the saudis, when they chose... so

why stop there, it was the russian iskander, the chinese complex and the ukrainian one, and it was the ukrainian option that was chosen, as the most promising, interesting, let’s say so, but we can see what happened with it later from by this inhibition, the russians p paid a lot of attention to this in order to disrupt the advance plans for this complex, now in the course of the war it is necessary to fix all this in an accelerated ... mode, well , i think we wish success to those who are engaged in this, because this type of weaponry is extremely necessary for the forces defense of ukraine. mr. general, prime minister of ukraine denys shmygal said that in the first 8 months of the current year, the production of weapons in ukraine has doubled, compared to the figures of last year, well, obviously we are talking about drones, because ukraine

enough... is actively developing drone production, given the nature of warfare that we have now, does that mean that the next stages of warfare will be related to these kinds of systems, that is, unmanned, aircraft, unmanned drones, which boats, which will be used somewhere at sea and on rivers, that is, this is a new stage of eyelashes. do i understand correctly, that is, a completely different stage for which no one had prepared before? i think that for the next 5-10 years , the trend of development of unmanned aerial vehicles will continue, and i agree with you again, it is in sphere in the air, on land, on water and under water, and we see how effectively these types of weapons are being developed in

ukraine, including in the air. let's say, on the water, the exams were passed underwater, and on land too, but the priorities are still in the air, and if there were new ones, there are innovations in this from the point of view of using drones as means of anti-rain defense, which fp, for example, shoot down or destroy reconnaissance drones are already quite effective, striking helicopters in... enemy, and that's very important, and we've also seen how drones are used, for example, fire with a mixture, when it needs to be applied and so on, the direction is quite rich, there is such a rapid and stormy survey, and the question this year will definitely be a million fished out, and if there were funds, well, they predict that there is an opportunity for more, thank you, thank you, mr. general , it was ihor romanenko,

lieutenant general. founder of the charity fund "close the sky of ukraine". friends, in 15 minutes we will return to the studio, we will have volodymyr fesenko and maksym rozumny, stay with us. trump did not answer the question of whether he wants to ukraine won, harris shamed him for being friends with dictators and said that... that putin would eat him for lunch, it was the first debate of the us presidential candidates, we are talking about it on the bbc live from london, i'm yevgenia shedlovska. well, this debate was different from the first debate of the presidential campaign in the united states, after which joe biden withdrew from the election and trump's opponent was vice president kamala harris. there are two months left before the american elections, there is a small gap between the candidates, harris is ahead.