and africa, latin america, well, this, of course, is only a plus, and here we can say that the interaction of one with the other will give us the best result. thank you, mr. volodymyr, for the conversation, it was volodymyr ogryzko, politician, diplomat, former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine. friends, i remind you that we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching live there, please subscribe to our pages, be sure to... like in this video, take part in to our survey, which today reads as follows: did you watch the televised debate between trump and harris. so, it's pretty simple on youtube, yes, no, if you have a different opinion, or you're ready to write something about this debate, do it in the comments under the youtube broadcast. if you watch us on tv, take your expensive smartphone or phones, vote on 0800 211 381. if... you watched

the tv debates? no. 0800 211 382. all calls to these numbers are free. vote at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. we will be in touch later oleksandr kraev, expert of the foreign policy council, ukrainian prism, americanist. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you. thank you for being with us today. yes, congratulations, good evening to you. so, the first televised debate between harris and trump is over. who do you think won and who lost as a result of this telecast? well, let's put it this way, it is difficult to determine the final winner precisely, because we only have a few polls, cnn shows that the situation is really much better in harris, who won about six points of support, trump lost about two, but we can definitely say that harris completely executed the program she planned for herself for the debate, she said everything she wanted, she spoke the way she wanted, she caught trump on his weaknesses, and at the same time trump really, well at certain moments ...

even lost his self-control , he succumbed to haris' provocative questions and dragged himself into the territory where he was uncomfortable working and uncomfortable speaking, so it can be said that haris is most likely to be declared the winner of this round of debate. how decisive for american voter is such a tv debate? in the last few electoral cycles, the role of the debates has declined, because we remember since the 16th year, trump is undivided... on them, because he, in fact, just by his assertiveness, provocativeness, he could control what, what they say, how they say it and what exactly they say about it, but this year, when we have a replacement candidate in the democratic party, essentially in the middle of the election process, in the republican party there is a candidate that far from the whole party likes, and who needs to be confirmed that he still can to be the leader, regardless of all the problems that accompany his campaign, then just this year the debates had a very... very high

value, they are really important, because for harris it is a chance to like a voter who does not know her, and about a third of the voters have still not formed at least a general opinion about haris. for trump, this is an opportunity to return, to show again that he is still strong, that he still has powder in his powder kegs and the ability to lead the republican party. therefore, specifically in this electoral cycle debate is of great importance. among the issues discussed at the debate. garis and trump are a ukrainian issue, kamala garis during the debate simply accused her opponent of flirting with the dictator putin and emphasized the need for further support for ukraine. let's listen to what she said about the ex-president of the united states of america. i want the war to stop. i believe that

when donald trump promises to end this war within 24 hours, it's because he would just give up, but that's not what we want as americans the reality is that it is about the position of america, which it should always be, as a leading country that adheres to international rules and norms. as a leader who demonstrates strength, understanding that the alliances we have around the world depend on our ability to care for our friends and not favor our enemies. well, trump avoided a direct answer to the question of whether he wants ukraine to win the war with russia, he only noted that the united states of america is spending much more on this war than european union and nato. let's listen to trump for balance. i want the war to stop. i want to save the lives of people who are dying in vain by the millions, millions of them, far more than the numbers show us.

you and biden don't have the guts to ask europe for money like i did for nato. they paid hundreds of billions of dollars when i told them either you pay or we pay more. we will not defend you, do you think that the victory of ukraine in this war is in the interests of the usa? i believe it is in the best interest of the united states to end this war, just to end it, negotiate a deal because we have to stop the destruction of all these human lives. well, mr. oleksandr, there are two positions, two leaders of the presidential campaign, and it is clear what interests us. what will be the policy of one candidate, another candidate in case of victory in the presidential elections of the united states of america, do you think that the policy will change radically, well, taking into account the fact that the united states of america is not

only the president, the leadership of the united states of america, it institutions that work all over the world, including with ukraine, or can we expect some drastic ones? in the event of trump's victory, although with kamalo harris, well , it seems that everything is clear, she will continue the politics of joseph biden, or am i wrong, but actually, in general terms , what harris is talking about is really a reproduction of biden's politics, but we see a few correct and essentially new narratives, i.e. at a time when biden always said that, accordingly, ukraine should be supported, saved and helped, because it is a partner, an ally, kharis, first of all, with... attention to the fact that ukraine should be helped , because ukraine is first of all a strategic issue, it is a question of democracy fighting against dictatorship, it is a question of freedom fighting against slavery that is imposed, it is a question that allies cannot

remain without support, and she also very rightly pointed out , that putin will not stop at ukraine, will not stop, putin has much bigger appetites, that is, the security of ukraine is also the security of europe, accordingly it is... the security of nato, and therefore the security of the united states, that is , unlike biden, she gave much the broader context of why ukraine is needed defend and why ukraine should win one way or another, so it will be biden, but you know, with improved ones, that is, a new tariff from biden. if we talk about trump, he essentially had two options, and he voiced them very clearly and quite a few times over the past six months. on the one hand, he said that he is ready to give ukraine twice as much as biden, he is ready to bomb moscow and beijing there if they ... repeat this aggression, on the other hand, he said that ukraine is like afghanistan, and there is no need to deal with it have to do things, need to hurry finish everything, call putin and zelensky and sign at least some kind of agreement. well, we see that, unfortunately, at the moment he is still leaning towards the second version of this strategy, and it definitely does not play into the hands of ukraine's interests. well, in the previous conversation

, i announced that, referring to the ukrainian truth, zelenskyy should meet on friday, september 13. with biden there was actually a rebuttal, the error arose from a misinterpretation of blinken's words at the press conference, it was about the fact that biden would meet with the prime minister of great britain, and not with volodymyr zelenskyi. kir starmer will be on friday, september 13, and obviously there will be talk about the possibility of giving ukraine a long-range strike. weapons that are manufactured in the united states of america and great britain, how do you, mr. oleksandr, assess this possibility against the background of information about iran's supply of ballistic missiles to russia? this will be just the right response to the

escalation that the islamic republic of iran has made, this will be the right response to the supply of their missiles, and of course it must be supplemented also by the fact that our western partners should provide us with a larger anti-missile package. of air defense, as a direct response to the fact that our civilians are now under even greater threat due to increased russian shelling and due to the strengthening of russia with arad missiles, but it is also worth saying that the talks about the transfer of missiles and the granting of permission to ukraine to strike deep into russian territory , are also being conducted not only against the background of the transfer of their missiles to iran, but also against the background of talks about negotiations, and this is exactly what the west has been telling us for a long, long time, that the main task of the west... to ensure a strong position of ukraine at the negotiations, and what can better strengthen the position of ukraine than supplying missiles that can really threaten the russians, prevent them from deploying a full-fledged defense, or rather a full-fledged defense, and at the same time prevent them from moving into an active offensive, therefore one way or another,

but in addition to a purely security issue, this is also a diplomatic issue, as for ukraine, in the last three months, we see how the president's office constantly emphasizes that negotiations... will and will be the closest sometimes, we most believe, it will be in november, then if such negotiations are already starting, ukraine wants them, ukraine is ready to conduct them, then ukraine should come at them from a strong position, just rockets. the strengthening of our defense, both political and security, is precisely what should give us the opportunity to exit the negotiations with russia with a victorious decision. can this potential decision affect the victory plan that zelensky is talking about, that he is announcing, that is, the possibility of killing ukrainians with atacamas on the territory of the russian federation will change the character of russian-ukrainian. war and will force putin to go to negotiations, this should have happened, that is, as you remember, when there was

talk about preventing the recurrence of aggression, when in principle there was talk about the fact that the finalization of russian aggression should be supported not only by ukrainian membership in nato , not only by the return of our territories, but also by the fact that russia will not be able to repeat such aggression, precisely the presence of such missile systems that can destroy russian infrastructure, that can destroy russian centers for... the accumulation of troops that can destroy their ability to transport projectile underwings and so on, this is exactly the practical guarantee of creating a so-called sanitary zone, that is, such a depth of territory on the territory of the russian federation, respectively, that russia could not with one powerful thrust to reach kyiv again or to threaten ukraine and even more so to threaten large cities. therefore, this is not only a part of the negotiation process, as we talked with you, it is really a part of you ... the solution to this problem, this is a part something that can allow ukraine to bargain harder with russia and literally

put forward its demands, and not just make concessions and seek certain joint compromises. thank you, mr. oleksandr, it was oleksandr krayu, an expert of the ukrainian prism foreign policy council, an americanist, and i remind you of our survey, please, we are asking you this today, did you watch the tv debate between trump and garis, so yes, no, on youtube is quite simple. if you have any separate opinion, please write it in the comments under this video. if you are watching us on the air, please vote by the numbers: 0800-211-381, no, 0800-211-382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we will be in touch with ihor romanenko, the founder of the charity fund for the crimea sky of ukraine, lieutenant general, former. deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine. mr. general, i welcome you, thank you for being

with us today. i congratulate you. let's talk about the iranian ballistic missiles that came to russia, and that's it accomplished fact. the spokesman of the department of defense of the united states of america, major general patrick ryder, confirmed the transfer of short-range ballistic missiles by iran to russia . let's listen to what he said. the united states has confirmed reports that iran has transferred fath-360 short-range ballistic missiles to russia, which we estimate they could use against ukraine within weeks, killing even more ukrainian civilians . creation of an integrated air defense system for ukraine has been going on for some time, and we are not going to stop, and in the case of these missiles. while they will certainly pose a threat, we will work with ukraine to ensure that they have the capabilities

necessary to defend against these missiles and other missiles that russia uses, including drones. mr. general, what is the threat posed by these ballistic missiles that have entered service with the russian federation, and can they change the nature of the russian-ukrainian war? well, strategically , no, for character changes, this speaks of capabilities, and their range is up to 120 km, and although this is a missile weapon, that is, it has the potential to hit, well, their number is estimated at 200, which is not small, but, if, the capabilities, for example, of the russian s300 missiles. they have about 5,000 missiles at their disposal, and

therefore about the consequences for the wunderwaffe war in principle, this will not happen, but this is all the same potential and the characteristics of these missile systems are better than those of north korea, and on the one hand, and on the other hand the iranians have, let's say, a wide range... and a range of different types, that is, apart from this fatha 360 there is fatig 110 for 300-400 km, there is zulfikar for 700 and there are missiles for and this is very significant, and it can be assumed that if the iranians spoke there at the time about the lack of transmission to shahedvi, we remember this story that from to the latter denied that they are transferring these ballistic missiles, then there may be a prospect of

further transfer of other types of missiles, and this is such a serious and serious threat. perspective for ukraine, for the defense forces of ukraine. from the point of view of the application of the tactical level, it can take place as per objects on such range, well, close to the analogue of point u, the soviet one, which is, as we also partially had it with the russians, eh, so that is why there is a danger to our settlements, which are distant from the line of contact. up to 100 km, for example, as well as in combat operations, for the russians to carry out offensive actions, for example, in the east of our country, the eastern front, or for their defensive actions, and now counter-offensive actions on the same field, that is, if there is a tool, then apply there is

where, and for what, so here are the corresponding threats, editor-in-chief... edition defense express, serhiy sgurets said on the air of express that the strengthening of russian strike capabilities by iranian missiles can be leveled by granting permission to use american atakams deep into russian territory. let's listen to what zgurets said. when we really get permission to use atakams with a range of 300 km, and then in fact the potential of these missiles, which... have a range of 120 km, and therefore will carry out strikes in the area of ​​the atakams, well, actually this potential of russia acquiring new strike capabilities there by the attack count will be leveled. mr. general, how likely is it that the united states of america, in response to the actions

of iran and russia, will nevertheless decide to give us such an opportunity to use the atakamsa in strikes on the territory of russia? let's say, now the americans, well, for example, with the same british, because most likely this decision will be combined with the use of stom shadle on the relevant objects, have come as close as possible to such a decision, and this, i think, was also discussed. today with representatives the heads of the ministry of foreign affairs, the united states and great britain, who work in ukraine, in addition to the preparation of the peace plan itself, including these military aspects, were most likely discussed, they are very important, but here it must be borne in mind that if

the permission is withdrawn , we should have the same means of atakamsya, of which we have a small number. in order to destroy this additional missile resource, which has already appeared among the russians, that is, it is shooting, as the pposhniks say, at dagon, that is, the threat already exists, it has appeared, now we need to think about how to stop it, and war, successful hostilities require working on prejudice, and unfortunately, in the work of our allies... this prejudice is no longer observed throughout the entire large-scale conduct of the war, and this situation must be corrected, and the aid promised by the president must be increased and accelerated of the united states of america, then we will see changes with

a strategic initiative on the battlefields, well... in ukraine, mr. general, president zelensky said that ukraine conducted the first tests of a long-range missile, considering the situation that is developing in the russian-ukrainian war, ukraine in this situation will need more time to build its missiles and create this production of these missiles, obviously, and... and to what extent we can deploy this production in in the future, we should not expect attack missiles and various types of long-range missiles from our western partners. well, according to the assessment of western experts, this concerns the program, in my time from the general staff i was the leader in the work with the relevant enterprises

of the defense-industrial complex of the program peregrine falcon, later grom-2, maybe this is what is meant, and it was started back there in the 14th year and so on, but kremlin apologists, including those who were our leaders here. state structures in every possible way hindered the promotion and finances and organizationally stopped these programs and so on, and therefore, you see, a lot of time was spent on what would be carried out and brought to the level when a successful test of this missile was conducted, but the missile itself is not this is a complex that was demonstrated by the battery in our parades and the command post. but now it is necessary to complete this work, to scale it, here i agree with you, and it is precisely such a complex that we

need in order not to walk around the world with an outstretched hand, but to have our own, our own effectively, and the characteristics of this complex are precisely such, because the saudis, when they were choosing, then why stop at this... there was a russian iskander, a chinese complex and a ukrainian one, and it was the ukrainian option that was chosen, as the most promising, interesting, let's say so, but we can see what happened with this later with this inhibition, russians a lot of attention was paid to this in order to disrupt the advance plans for this complex, now in the course of the war we have to fix all this in an accelerated mode, well... i think we wish success to whoever is doing this, because this is the type of weaponry that is desperately needed defense forces

of ukraine. mr. general, prime minister of ukraine denys shmygal said that in the first eight months of the current year , the production of weapons in ukraine has doubled compared to last year. ukraine is quite actively developing the production of the second. given the nature of the war that we have now, does this mean that the next stages of the war will be related to exactly such systems, that is, unmanned aerial vehicles, unmanned drones, which boats, which will be used somewhere at sea and on rivers, that is this is a new stage of the war, i understand correctly, that is, a completely different stage... for which no one had previously prepared, i think that the trend of the development of unmanned aerial vehicles will be maintained for the next 5-10 years, and with you again

i agree, it is in the field in the air, on the ground, on the water and under the water, we see how effectively these types of weapons are being developed in ukraine, in the air, let's say, on the water, the tests have been passed and... under the water, well, on the ground too, but the priorities are still in the air, and if there are new innovations in this from the point of view of using drones as means of anti-hail defense, which in half, for example, shoot down or destroy scout drones already quite effectively, which strike at helicopters hostile, and this is very important, and yes... we also saw how drones are used, for example, with a fire mixture when it is necessary, other things are also used, there are quite a lot of directions, there is

such a rapid and stormy survey, and in the question this year there will definitely be a million fished out, and if there were funds, well, i predict that there is a possibility more and thank you, mr. general, it was ihor romanenko, lieutenant general, founder of the charity fund close the sky of ukraine. in september, there are 10% discounts on thermals in pharmacies, plantain bam and ochad. september discounts on zzilor 20% in pharmacies plantain bam and saving in september, there are 15% discounts on magne b6 anti-stress in the psarynsky bam and ochda pharmacies. there are discounts for mukaltin in september. 10% in psarynyk, bam and oskad pharmacies. every week,

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