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we are coming back, remember that we are asking you to donate for drones and rebs, and instead we will talk about donetsk region, which is actually the direction of the ukrainian front, where we will send drones and rebs, when we do not collect all the required amount. andriy kramchenkov, editor-in-chief of suspilne donbas, is with us. mr. andriy, glory to ukraine. reruem, glory. we have already announced that we will show a video showing how the evacuation team came across a russian man and he, well, had a weapon, but... he himself had neither i didn’t know if the ukrainians were armed, somehow they managed to disperse and the evacuation group got out of this situation safely, eh, is it in these areas, the line of combat looks like this, it’s so blurred, it’s unclear, somewhere they are they are already scurrying among the ukrainians, ugh, that is, how often can you run into a wandering wild russian with a machine gun, well, i am talking about such a thing for the first time case i hear, but, for example,
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there was a case in sumy region when unarmed beekeepers captured a group of armed russians, but these are the first days of the war, in fact, when the russian units were broken, and people, well , were returning, the russians were simply trying to return home, i do not observe such a thing here, in fact, a unique case, well, we are just showing this, that is, in fact, it is already a dwelling. houses and more or less buildings are not destroyed, this is not the kind of footage that we saw from bakhmut, from maryinka, from the same avdiyivka, it looks a little different, actually this is some isolated video we happened upon or, maybe there is some loss from drg or from some intelligence group, well, anything can be, as long as they had information to comment on something, and he he looks like a little boy, as our soldiers say. and in general, from your eyes, how
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does the situation look, we have information that the pokrovsky direction has been strengthened with additional reserves, we see that this is from... well, it should correspond to reality, because the front line has not changed much in this direction, but here further south everything looks a little different, what do you see? well, look, if you regularly follow the reports of the general staff, you can understand that now the intensity of assaults on the front line has decreased a little, and pokrovsk remains the direction making the main efforts of the russians, out of 75 assaults of assaults on the entire front line, 30 were directed to... pokrovsk, that is, a little less than half, and another 23 to the kurakhiv direction, which is also the main one now, that is, 2/3 of the russian assaults, that is kurakhivskaya and pokrovsky directions, or this it is related to the fact that now they have become more active in kurshchyna and are trying to somehow, let's say, cut off our
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bridgehead there, i am not going to comment, but the fact is that the intensity of the assaults has decreased, the russians have destroyed the overpass. which leads from pokrovsk to dnipro, there is one of the main bridges over which everyone traveled, including us, there is a bypass road, but it adds a little time to this road, that is, they try to work in such logistical ways, the russians , the situation that the water main was also cut off, it was already managed to be repaired, pokrovsk was left without water, such information, yes, pokrovsk is without water, as far as i know, it has not been restored yet, and i think so that it will not be fast, but some of the houses there, how to say, are supplied with water from wells, and not from a centralized systems, then those will be with water, there are also problems with light, the gas pipeline has been cut off, and
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this too will not be restored quickly, that is , such, let's say, difficult living conditions are already coming to pokrovsk, which, well , literally every month and a half. therefore, it was a deep rear for the donetsk region, for those who are not familiar with the geography of the region, i will explain, pokrovsk and myrnograd are cities in the west of the donetsk region, which, well, after them dnipropetrovsk already begins, and the next city there is pavlograd, which in dnipropetrovsk oblast, if the evacuation train used to go from pokrovsk, now he goes from pavlograd, already from dnipropetrovsk region. in fact, your colleagues told us that most of the people now who... leave myrnograd and pokrovsk drive to pavlograd by car and from there they go somewhere further to the rear or to the west of the country by rail. mr. andrii, is there anyone to restore this water supply, electricity, gas supply and in general, is there a plan
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to do all this now, because we understand that shelling continues constantly, accordingly, this is also an additional threat to those groups, emergency workers, who will do all this to the specialists of vouski. well, the head of the gas service commented to us yesterday and informed us that he has 25% of workers left, so they will restore , well, within the limits of what they are capable of now, and in any case, the process is not fast, while part of the city has electricity. then some people will live, if not there will also be electricity, then the situation will be even more complicated, for understanding, we were working that week and in morinograd a lot, in pokrovsk, we were already yesterday. then mirnograd was simply emptied literally in a month there were 20 percent of the people left there, if before the full-scale war it was a town of 50,000 people, now, god forbid, there are only 10,000 left, pokrovsk does not yet have such
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an apocalyptic atmosphere, but it too is emptying, chain stores are closing, there are small shops that are still working, but... well, you understand, yes, if there are no products, then accordingly people will be able to go there to exist only on some humanitarian basis, which is also unknown, how long it will last, and which, and what solution in general in even in the local authorities, i am talking about the mirnograd that you say was emptied, but a fifth of the population remains, in fact the shelling of mirnograd was already sufficiently accurate, as the authorities decide, do we restore, for example, the gas supply there or is there no content? because it is only a greater risk when we restore it, than, for example, to help point by point with some liquefied gas. in the same way, with electricity, decisions are made in these areas of the city, which are, let's say, facing east, which decisions are made, for the sake of understanding, by areas that face
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the east is closed to civilians in general, there remains about 5 km to the front line, that is, they are already getting mortars, and half-cannons are flying, and there is not until the restoration of the gas supply. there is a feeling that the front is approaching, but artagra wants to be non-stop, we worked in the morning and the cannonading did not stop, although a week ago there was no such thing, there is no arta in marinograd anymore, there are already fpi and mortars in marinograd, that is, in principle the city is preparing for street battles, all kinds of additional fortifications are being built right in the city, and there everything is about evacuation, there is no question of reestablishing any communications. what you are talking about, the construction of some additional fortifications,
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some obstacles for street fighting, is done by local forces, the military helps, that is, how is it organized, or are regional administrations also engaged in this? unorganized, it's very simple, there are brigades assigned to cities and the brigades give, well, how should i say it, tasks for the local authorities, which try to carry them out there. own equipment, attracts workers and somehow it is done, i am straight i don’t know the exact super details, but the military gives tasks to the local civil authorities, that’s how it is arranged, well, it was actually about that, or is it with cooperation with the military, who say, how would it be best, what do you say, please, did you talk about that , that grocery stores are still working, but many are already leaving , but the chain stores are closing, the business has moved away, they have taken it away. maybe the equipment , some such things are bigger or it still remains in pokrovsk, the chain stores have already closed,
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the new post office from mirnograd has left pokrovsk, i don't know, i don't remember that we researched it, as for the small shops, they are still open, but the curfew is from 3 pm to 11 am, that is, there are four hours to work, stock up, and in general somehow function , that is, well... there are also such purely, purely logistical difficulties, and this is how we talked with the owner of the store, she said that while we are working, we will sell out the goods, but, as she put it, horses harnessed, that is, if such a direct necessity arises, she will also leave there and take everything she can bring out mr. andriy, a few weeks ago, there was this fairly loud corruption scandal, when they wanted to make a lot of money for the signature of a... agent, it concerned the transfer
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of expensive coal mining equipment from pokrovsk to the western coal basin, this chervonohrad-volyn, pam you tell this story like this, but to be honest, we missed this story in general due to reporting work, it's simple, but have you heard anything about it is quite expensive to remove the equipment from pokrovsk, was there an evacuation or not only the population, but actually all the things necessary for the economy of ukraine? well, this is the work of business, in principle, i have seen the removal of equipment on trucks, well , it’s just like some kind of industrial, some factory is moving, i don’t see how widespread this phenomenon is on earth, but they may well move not when we see it , because, for example, military equipment is being transferred to... and you won't see it during the day, in fact, that's what you mentioned about military equipment, and we were told that
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there are still zhduny in the vicinity, or with one armed eye you can find out where the people are waiting, and where are those who are ready, as you say, the horses are harnessed, briefly, please, i would not exaggerate such a phenomenon as zhduns, of course they exist, i think they are and in the sums of my relatives there are, but people do not leave for the same reasons, when they... ask this question, why are you sitting in a town that is already being hit by mortars, they answer that there is nowhere to go and nothing to do, they are worried that they have a native home here, they somehow stocked up on goods there and somehow will live, the war may be about to end, this is how it looks in their heads, and where they are offered to go, they worry that there will be no suitable conditions, no one will need them, there will be nothing to live for, that is, it is so purely eh... let's say, they have economic considerations, rather than political ones, i would not
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exaggerate such a phenomenon as zhduns who are directly waiting for the arrival of russian power, because really, look at any the settlement is occupied by the russians, how can you expect that, it does not even cross my mind, mr. andriy, that is, this is about the equipment that i asked about, it is after all from the state mines, then the state, this is history, you say, we just had a lot of work, this is history and... to me, deputy minister of energy oleksandr hale, remember, herman galushchenko says that he helped personally, as a minister, to get the sbu to detain him, but it was about the equipment itself. from the pokrovska basin, if you tell us more about it next time, we will be very grateful, because this is a story, as they say, with three dots, we can't see it, thank you very much for the conversation and what were with the viewers of espresso, andriy kramchenkov, editor-in-chief of social donbass, and do you know where it is loud now, where, yes, and where, yes, i look at the map at the map and
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you look well, olennaya, olenyagorsk, where the tu-95 ms. those who regularly take off at night to give us nightmares at dawn, in short , it is the second time there, it was already yesterday, today the plan is a carpet, the planes are redirected to arkhangelsk, because something is loudly exploding there, in a word, the drone attack continues not only in ukraine, we will also talk later about the sky and about those iranian missiles that the russians use against of ukraine, they are not using it yet, but they intend to, they intend to, because zelensky said yesterday. speaking before the leader of the western countries, you say that we do not yet have confirmation of those fragments, but since they are transporting them, it means that there is a plan, oleksandr samarskyi is with us, a diplomat, extraordinary and plenipotentiary, ambassador and expert of the russian research center , mr. oleksandr, we congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to each other's heroes, actually about these ballistic missiles,
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we want to ask you, because we even have a figure of 220 missiles, we even saw... such an analysis yes, they will start, they will not start, and what to expect actually, shaheds fly properly and regularly and in large numbers? to be honest, i didn't quite understand the question of whether or not they would start shelling again. use, look, the western countries said that as soon as they see what russia is using these missiles on ukraine, even more sanctions and even more attention will be focused on iran and there will be even more non-transmission for them, we currently have this information that the missiles were allegedly transported, but interested in your prediction of what will happen next?
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understood, it is closer to me, because i am not a military expert. as it is clear, and in this regard, you know, i would like to make a small remark, this issue was discussed in january of the 23rd year on your channel, but i was not lazy, i passed it on, and in principle, everything that was said then according to the shaheds, it all remains relevant even now, that is, the reaction of the west to fasting. the shaheeds have, but there is no big reaction from ukraine, now you said that there will be sanctions, they have already introduced them, they have already announced the usa, great britain, france, and germany, the only country that is silent is ukraine. at the same time, in january, a year and a half ago, i said that if there is a delivery of ballistic
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missiles, then i have the impression that the situation will come down to this, ukraine asks... what about the shaheds, are you supplying the shaheds? iran: no, we do not supply, ukraine neither supplies nor does not supply, after that ukraine says, well, you see, they deny, they do not supply, we cannot do anything, what can we do here, they deny, they do not deliver, that is, answering your survey, i would emphasize attention to the position. it is ukraine in terms of what and how to counter such threats, a year and a half has passed, you understand, no fingers have been hit in essence, because a year and a half ago the issue of supplying russia, iranian ballistics was already discussed by experts, the public,
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and so on and so forth , and everyone was concerned about it, except, it seems of our government, on that and on that... a year and a half ago, i spoke about the fact that in october of the 22nd year on the president's desk was a draft of the decree submitted by the ministry of foreign affairs on the severance of diplomatic relations between ukraine and iran, and he has been lying there for two years and nothing. why am i paying attention to the breakdown of diplomatic relations, because the response of any country, ah... again, i am not interested in the position of the usa, france, great britain, i am interested in the position of ukraine, and how ukraine and the ukrainian state, its leadership, protects his own citizens, we have already seen nothing from the shaheds, now missiles are on our agenda, so any
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civilized response, it first requires a diplomatic reaction, a signal is sent to everything, the entire world community, we are on the shahedis reacted diplomatically, in some way, deprived the ambassador of accreditation. iran in ukraine, he was not sitting here anyway, this is a conversation about nothing, because the presence of diplomatic relations, i return to this issue again, it is a public statement that the relations between the two countries are of a friendly nature, that is, whatever iran did not supply weapons to russia as long as we have diplomatic relations, we admit. the friendly nature of relations between ukraine and iran, that is, hundreds of ukrainian citizens have already been killed by iranian weapons, and we still say
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about this, about the fact that we have friendly relations, in this regard from the experience of the same iran, i will remind, well, not only iran, but international experience that sometime in 2011, senegal broke off diplomatic relations with iran. only with the suspicion that some separatist groups there were supplied with weapons, they were not rockets, they were not shahedis, it was some kind of there, mainly small arms, and senegal had enough wisdom, and courage, and steel, as they say, let there will be nerves in order to break these relations, ukraine does not respond to such. iran's steps, we thereby push iran to new cooperation in the military-technical sphere with russia directed against ukraine, we
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thereby stimulate iran to help russia, to kill our citizens. why is this so? i didn't have an answer a year and a half ago, i still don't have an answer now. the only thing i can say is that it is logical here that someone's... narrow business interests are higher than the interests of preserving the life and health of our citizens. that's all, we know that the country is ruled by five or six managers it is beneficial for someone to have some business from iran. i have one more thing, excuse me for a moment, after the shaheeds, after a long period of darkness, ukraine still imposed sanctions against iran then, but this is a mockery of the chickens, for example, we... banned flights to iran for 50 years, and why are we flying anywhere at least now , well, well, well, well, well, you understand,
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not a single trade opportunity of trade equipment between ukraine and iran was affected, and iran really needs very much, what they said that we exchanged missiles for grain, for food, it is true, iran has a huge need for these eat at the time when i was the ambassador, the turnover between the countries amounted to about 1 billion and 1 billion and 100 million dollars, of which more than 1 billion were our supplies, 80% were agricultural supplies, and only 50 million to ukraine from iran , that we cannot find a way to ban not flights but deliveries for 50 years. agricultural products, this is not the case, a lot of other means could have been used here, they are not used for some reason, mr. oleksandr, we should probably continue this conversation next time,
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