vf, and, he said an interesting phrase, it was not entirely true, if in an open format, that the parliament voted changes to the budget for the front four times, and again it was thought that the fifth time the changes would be automatically voted again, everything, five the parliament did not vote automatically for the umpteenth time, well, we want to discuss where to get money from, who will suffer, what are the resources of the economy, what is the additional burden on the economy, and so on, definitely primary. the army must receive all funds after the 20th, after september 20, a priori, for that the parliament will meet in the coming days, we usually do not announce which days, and tomorrow the budget committee will consider again or not again there another version of the registered government bill on changes to the budget for uah 495 billion, and the structure accordingly, which is assumed, no one has seen this registered, which so far that, tomorrow only the committee, i am a member of the committee, i do not see the budget committee of it yet, but if from... is based on what was in

the version, the old version, then we know that in this structure, it means that this raising - er, so of the military levy for the population from 1%, from 1.5% to 5%, these are the funds of the ovdp placement and redemption by the bank in the amount of uah 260 billion, that is, in principle , i want to say that the coarser one is, well, there is no increase in such taxes. as such for the population, and but we, why did we actually slow down this process and had a tough discussion with the ministry of finance, and in particular i said this directly to the eyes of minister marchenko about the fact that where there are budget projects, surplus profits of banks, well surplus profits, are tens of billions of hryvnias , we talk about it, we are told that they are forced to buy out vgz, they are spent and so on, so and so are spent, well, we know how some heads of enterprises simply complain about millions of salaries and so on, moreover. members of the supervisory boards, millions,

foreigners, non-foreigners, as much as possible during the war, forgive me, banks cannot have surplus profits for several years in a row and not share them with the state budget of ukraine, so it is obvious that we will consider this bill, we we will have a discussion and after the discussions we will accept, but i believe that the banks should also pull out their irons their long, big pocket to pull out these excess profits that they have accumulated over the past years. mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy. european solidarity is now in direct contact with us, mr. mykola, well, in the context of both this issue and the changes in the government that have now taken place, what can you predict, yes, it is important, not just to comment, to predict how the events will be will unfold further, whether, let's say, shmegal's new government officials will be able to be more effective in their positions, including in relation to the search for alternative sources of income in the ukrainian budget, which... needs hundreds

of billions, this is again from the words of shmyhal. well, look, schmigel first said that someone expected that the war would end this summer, and there by september, and for me it is somehow so absurd and incomprehensible, who expected why it had to end, and of course that we all want quick victory, so that it was as soon as possible, but how could the government in such a way and the majority could in such a way so irresponsibly put. to what is happening in our country, it seems to me sober is looking for a person, and they really counted, they really thought that after the first peace summit there, putin would get scared, run away, that china would support them, that is, us, although there was no reason for this, you know, the expression that the government is ours, they are some kind of , dreamers, storytellers who want something good, don't know how to achieve it and convince themselves that it will happen, the same applies to ministers, you said shmigel's ministers, well i... i don't particularly see

shmigel's ministers, i i see the ministers of zelenskyi and yermak there, this in no way diminishes them professionalism, because minister of legal affairs sybig, he is definitely an extremely professional person, as well as mykola tochytskyi, who headed the ministry of culture, he is a professional diplomat, i do not know how professional a cultural figure he is, but they increased the powers of the ministry of culture there, but he is definitely a diplomat a professional and a responsible person, but what was the purpose of these changes? and this circle, these five or six managers, they all actually find themselves in the executive power, who else, how will it all work, and here i see a lot of risks, especially now that we need to never to be strong, and we see that russia is promoting its narrative both externally, in foreign policy, and in domestic policy. mr. mykola, please tell me what you think about the latest statements of the ukrainian government officials, now i want

to quote correctly about... we all understand the difficult situation, we have already talked about it, and so has ksenia. klim talked about it, there are people here who can and will be able to go to war, those who will support the ukrainian the economy in the context of the fact that we cannot and do not know with statistical certainty, even to the end, the exact number of people who have remained in ukraine and who have left abroad, how many people are in the surrounding countries, i am not talking about what we can't even imagine is the number of those who... left at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, in principle are considering the option of returning to the territory of our state, after 2.5 years already in other countries, where life is arranged and so on , so similar, well the ministry of demography is not what the government said,

i said it, it was i who proposed to create a ministry of demography of the diaspora, and zelenskyi already after i submitted the corresponding draft law said that we need some kind of ministry for the return of ukrainians, they call it that, the problem... extremely wide. you saw that according to the latest data released there from the cia report, we have the lowest birth rate in the world, the highest death rate in the world and the highest immigration. this is a disaster. and what putin wants to do, he wants to ukraine is depopulated and it is happening. according to the national bank , 400,000 people have left ukraine in the last six months alone, and again, according to their data, 6.7 million people have left ukraine in recent years, last year at... initially there were six, that is, this number is increasing, and we have a catastrophe, because at first we made a lot of mistakes, when we did not provide consular services to these people, now, on the contrary, we are allegedly trying to provide them, there is a reason for this, because there are hundreds of thousands of applications for renunciation of ukrainian citizenship, you in german, in

in germany, you get a gray passport, there are people who have been outside of ukraine for a long time, had two passports each, they simply refuse ukrainian passports, and we have a real demographic catastrophe, someone has to deal with this. instead, we have different categories of people, we have internally displaced persons, whom no one cares about, they are paid 200 hryvnias each by those people who were forced to leave the occupied territories, from the territories that are under fire, where should they live, with what means, how to raise children, where to find a job, the state actually does nothing about it, these are the people which are in ukraine, i am not talking about the fact that half of our schools are closed because there are no shelters there or because they are wooden, and the shelters are built by local budgets. they can't, because the pdf was taken from them and taken, unfortunately, not for the army, as many say, taken at all and not spent, it died in the central budget, when people can't send their children to kindergartens, they also leave, there are those who left earlier, there is ultimately a diaspora that must be united for our common struggle, and there must

be some body that deals with this, i proposed that it be a ministry that would be managed at the level of the deputy prime minister and a special fund to support these people, after i did it, the government officials in... say that it needs to be done, but they only see it that way , as they have seen before, here is to take people and somehow return them, and it is necessary to ensure the conditions for this return, and so that people do not run around dozens of ministries, from education to social policy and the ministry of defense, they can solve their problems in one place, and then they will see that the state takes care of them, and then they will indeed return, but for this you have to work. thank you, mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine, was with us on skype. mykhailo tsimbalyuk, continuing this topic. where we can, what options there might be, where should we look for these funds, where should the state look, because of course, the easiest thing for us to say is that the government should deal with all this, it is on their shoulders, we chose, we ourselves have to, i don't know , suffer from that, but it's not like that, we all

have to do something, something to make it different, yes, i would like a few words to support the position of my colleague mykola knyazhytskyi, we really need such a ministry, we can discuss what it will be called. but in most european countries there is a ministry of migration and others, we have different numbers, but there are more than 8 million ukrainians around the world, in some countries there are more than a million, so very modestly, so no one takes care of them, because they have five consulates six people of the state, they cannot take care of these people, they need to be given help, to unite diaspora groups in each state, that is , such a structure is definitely needed, and i sure that it will be created. it is good that the authorities heard such a proposal. next, brother, i am sure that the verkhovna rada will definitely approve changes to the budget for more than 500 billion in the coming days. definitely, this is not discussed, everyone needs to be reassured, and it is really only the ministry of finance, thinking that it

will just pass like that. by the way, they submitted changes to raise taxes by 30 billion, which does not solve anything, but we need more than 500. that is, these funds, what... colleague batenko said, are definitely banks, and there are large resources, customs by bringing order there and raising some customs payments, i don't know what to do with... the military levy from 1% to five or three there are different proposals, we'll see how it goes, but clearly the resources are domestic bonds i will borrow and again tax the income from these bonds, because the banks take state money, i buy them with them, they buy these bonds, after a few months they sell them and have that margin, forgive me, this is the money of the entire people, this is wrong, that is, i emphasize once again: there is a reserve and the following, we have, excuse me, some the ministries did not fulfill, they do not use

the funds, i am sorry, but the previous leadership of the ministry of veterans, they did not use a billion of money for rehabilitation, it is a shame in general, and that money will now go to the military, because they do not have time, i am not saying that they are only in july, prime minister shmyhal signed the distribution of funds for the purchase of housing for military personnel. 5.7 billion and family members of the dead, what is this, i'm sorry, we have more than 45 thousand in the waiting list, and this is a few thousand to four receive only this housing, that is, this is the topic of the next conversation and the next budget, but we will definitely make changes and the military will be provided for, and where the resources and reserves are in the state, we just need to work, including tax ones. not by putting pressure on small and medium-sized businesses, we are categorically against burdening

fop, as some suggest, let fop survive, they create jobs for themselves and earn, and let two or three more people earn, pay taxes, don't touch them it is possible, and we talked about the reserves, and the discussion will take place in the budget committee and in session hall, in the coming days we will adopt it in the second reading, as a whole, and i am sure that the president will sign it in the coming days... so that from the 20th to the end of this month , everyone will receive the military, depending on who and when, the financial support, that is, i i want to say, we want to believe that the words in our studio, the repeated second reading, is not a new law, it is the same, but we have not seen the materials yet, we hope that there is no mention of new taxes, what we are talking about, that is, this there may be such a surprise, not exclusively, i want to support mr. batenko and mr. mykhailo mykhailovych. nak-naftogaz has 1,000 employees, a wage fund of 2.2 billion. how many supervisory boards do we have, where do they

receive, listen, we simply do not think so, they receive millions of salaries, more than 500,000, 700,000, recently it was absurd information was circulating that the head of ukrzaliznytsia received a salary of eight or 7 or 8 million, listen, riding on the railway gives the impression that you are riding horses, galloping along the road with such holes, that is, here you have to look for all the hidden internal eyes reserves, plus self-government bodies should also be collected, dialogue should be held with them, they have serious funds, they, they are the rod, they are supplying, but they will tighten up, i believe that it is necessary to approach this seriously, it is necessary to introduce hearings, it is necessary to conduct a dialogue and must be analyzed. yes, i apologize for one remark, really the supervisory board kudrytskyi, as

he was resigning, received severance pay, do you know how much, 40 million kudrytskyi ukrenergo, the supervisory board that allowed him to allocate these funds from five people, three in ukraine are not were, they don’t come here, they make such decisions remotely, the closest they came to poland, they collected, that is, the supervisory board there is also a reserve, where are these funds, if ukraine does not trust its... citizens, well, excuse me, you know, here is the question in the fact that we can say that in your studios you are breeding some such, well, almost communist views, why can't the top manager there receive huge funds, that he is in charge, but we understand who is currently in our state top managers, who are the most important for us in the state now, and that's for sure, well a person who receives conditional eight. hryvnias, i think that in difficult times it can be as much as 500 00 hryvnias , how to somehow survive like this, but not during

the war and not to die, so i’m already talking about this that we have other top managers , top managers in the east, they lead battalions and brigades these are the people who are currently receiving the most material assistance , sir, i understand mr. mykola sakhno, as much as you can, you cannot talk about it, but nevertheless, how the military is affected by this information about the fact that there may not be payments now, well, we understand that somehow way this payment to military personnel, it will appear, maybe not immediately, maybe in a month, maybe when the necessary laws are passed, but... nevertheless, what do the military think, not only you, but in general, you understand, we they didn't come there to earn money, but to protect their homeland, their family, their children, and the fact that they will be paid, sorry to ramble on, and i think that some ukrainian top managers with millions of salaries lack this understanding. you see, that's how people

look at it when they say, here are the military... we we all also want to finish as soon as possible, but, well, but there is a lot, but the military will come, they will help us put things in order, we stand, put things in order, we stand, dear ones, we will not help anything, believe me, our limits are already on the wrong side, that the limits, but the possibilities, are on the limit, and they are really on the limit, you understand, it is not in money supply, not in something. therefore, when you come from the venue and look at all these, you know, well, there is no such thing, i have already been in lviv for a while, after 12 o'clock there is a curfew, why do people go, why, what is this, well, there is a need in business, let's somehow make it so that it happens, now we the military

are coming, the police are warning us, you don't park your cars because they are burned, and why? they are burned because there is no control, the police cannot cope with it, let's organize the dnd, let's do it, do it all, then we will park our cars, christmas trees and navariks near the jaguars, and then everyone will follow them, that is, in this has everything, but money, well, i think, you understand, if we rely only on monetary support, you will not convince a person to go to on... zero, this, when even people come, it's always scary, but you have to prove to them that your parents are there, your family is there, i repeat, well, these are the key words that affect what it is necessary to fulfill one's duties, that is, well, somehow, i am sure yes,

i will add, for everyone. to the military, yes, it costs his family, and mainly these funds that he receives, yes, he needs to provide for himself, his little rear. every military man, well , i have not met such, spends a large part of his earnings to equip his being there on the front line to repair your car, not even your car, but this machine. you know, i just found out about one fact that just broke my heart, and that is that over there in this direction of kursk, the guys are spending money to buy tokens, these tokens, i don't know how it is that in the third year of the great war, the guys were not provided, boys and girls were not

provided with these things, but it is also bought with this money and... how, how can we hope that they will go once, come back, go, a second time, come back, but without the fact that they will not be able to give bread to their family, what will they continue to do, this is very, very cynical, it is wrong, it cannot be like this, let each of these people, who have 8 million , will try to fast alone this month on bread and water, i think he will not lose weight. and no, it won't end there, but a military man, that's for sure, has to get that money, so he didn't go there for the money, he went to protect his homeland and his family, but he has to really provide for his family so that his the child could i am dressed normally to go to school, i also need to dress for those school needs, well, there is nothing

to even argue about, i will just vote for the parliament, not on behalf of me. i believe, i believe, but even, it hurts that this is a question, but our parliament will vote, there is no doubt, we are just the same, we think about the military, we think about the rear, because the rear holds the front, the front holds the rear, it is mutual connected things, the economy and so on, so it is obvious that the parliament will vote, i am more than convinced that after the 20th there will be no difficulty in financing the army, i am not saying there on behalf of someone, but uh, you know, what's the problem with the finances as such, because we are fully funded. and they fully estimated the army's expenses for 2024, but again, within the year, we had a gift of almost 500 billion hryvnias, which is quite a lot of money. the problem is that at the beginning of the year, when aid from the united states of america, from our partners, including, was delayed, the government was forced

to buy weapons from the state budget, tens of billions of hryvnias worth of ammunition, and that is why this gift and arose, we don't know, it's impossible here, but the very question that it arose is very bad, you can imagine. even after this broadcast, i believe that information will appear in many of these orkish telegram channels that ukraine will not be able to provide the salaries of its soldiers, we can, we will be able to, but they will twist it and that's it, and we have no doubt that they will twist it, simply such questions should not arise, you will already have the final word on our broadcast, i see you raise your hand, i have a reply, in fact, in fact, i wanted to ask a short question to the deputies, because we talk a lot about filling the budget, i was shocked by one figure that i heard literally yesterday, it is cooperation with

russia in the oil and gas sector, that is, we are talking about the fact that gas transit should be restored, and is extended, and it will give ukraine, as far as i have heard, 280 million dollars, in return, russia... will earn about 11 billion dollars from this, the same applies to oil, uh, that is, what is the situation here, it is, frankly, very stupid becomes when you think about what there is cooperation during the war, and to what extent it is justified in general, even if speaking from economic considerations, i can, well , please, well, i really also heard it from the prime minister, who was explaining the answer. giving to journalists, by the way, i also found this information that it turns out that hungary and slovakia instead of lukoin pump oil from another

russian company through the territory of ukraine. i have made an official request to the prime minister as to when and who signed this agreement and for what amount, because in fact, i agree with you and that the position of analysts, experts with whom... i spoke with, that ukraine is losing more, i am not saying in the political, in the economic, from such and such equipment, excuse me, it is to whom, it is to those two european neighbors of ours, hungary, slovakia, which everywhere opposes ukraine, fizo, and that, and to give them more, this is the first thing, and regarding gas, i heard the official statement of the prime minister that no one from the ukrainian side is going to continue. nish, to renew the contract, which expires in the fall. another thing is that the ukrainian government should think about how to use this pipe, because it

ours, as they say, is a national resource, it cannot be his either. technologically, mr. taras fakhivets, he will explain to us that if we don't use it at all, then it will be scrap metal in a few years, that would also be impossible to allow. mykhailo myhach has absolutely right, i just want to tie it in a little in a broader aspect, from the point of view of geopolitics, mr. andrii said about comparing there why orban does not become a citizen, although we do not know what imrenad would have been like if he had lived, had he not been hanged, was he hanged or shot in 1956 year, if he had lived in 2024, we do not know what dubchyk would have been like, if he had not died in 92, had already been prime minister in the 24th, these are very conditional concepts, but we know for sure that from the position of... orbán as the prime minister of hungary, yes, and from the position of fico as the prime minister of slovakia , the package of financial assistance for the next year of the european union of 50 billion depends. well

, it is divided into stages and so on . and i think that the knot in the knot of this question that orbán and fico are asking is the question of oil first of all, because it is, by the way, a small about oil, i can tell you, as a former director of the druzhbatoprovod oil pipeline, there is a price, there is a volume. approximately fluctuated within the limit of 12 million tons of crude oil, which goes on two branches of the five-hundredth pipe, well, from mozar through five regions of ukraine, the slovak border and to the hungarian border, the receiving points of budkivets and feneshlidka, this is about 12 million tons of crude oil, this is the price of the question of 12 million, yes, ukraine earns something from this, if we talk about oil, but the position of the government of two... countries that do not depend on this quite friendly to us, but which can block our support of 50 billion hryvnias, dollars, sorry, or euros, you have to think about choosing, you see, politics

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