what awaits sumchan this winter? permission without unnecessary provocations. the western press writes that during the visit of blinken and lemmy to kyiv, zelenskyi received non-public consent for long-range strikes by western weapons against russia. when will it be officially announced? the victory plan as a component of the peace formula. ukraine hopes for support. the usa is implementing its secret plan to force russia to end the war diplomatically. what are the valid arguments for the kremlin? glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program. my name is serhii rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health over the next hour , we will talk about how russia is trying

to form an axis of evil with the participation of iran, china, north korea and syria, and of course belarus, and moscow's efforts to accumulate ballistic missiles that tehran provided, and this is the biggest problem now not only for ukraine, and for the whole world, of course, those missiles that have already arrived in russia, they threaten ukraine, but they also... threaten the whole world, as the world will be react to it, in what way, and most importantly, will the ukrainians get it permission to use western weapons in attacks on the russian federation, we will also talk about what is happening in sumy oblast, and what is the situation there with the resettlement of people, the evacuation of people from the border with the russian federation, today we will have two experts as guests, a politician and a diplomat novel.

mortal and viktor boberenko, a political expert who actually lives in sumy, and i hope he will share his impressions of what is currently happening on the border with the russian federation. however, before we start our big talk, i suggest you watch the video of how the fighters of the special forces of the ministry of defense destroyed the russian su-30s combat aircraft in the black sea. mlychanym from manpads, and this video was shown by hurivtsi, the fighter that fell into the sea belonged to the 43rd separate naval aviation regiment of the military space forces of the russian federation, which is based at the airfield of the city of saki in crimea. let's watch this enchanting video.

glory to the armed forces of ukraine and death. russian occupiers. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live on these platforms, please subscribe to our pages and also take part in our survey. today we ask you about this. do you expect long range approval from the united states of america by the end of september. yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube. if you have a separate opinion, please leave it in the comments under the video. if you are watching us on tv,

pick up your smartphone or phone and vote for the numbers. if you wait solutions for the united states of america: 0800 211 381, no, 0800-211-382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce today 's first guest - roman bezsmertny, a politician, diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary. ambassador of ukraine to belarus in 2010-11, former member of the tripartite contact group for peaceful settlement of the situation in eastern ukraine. mr. roman, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. good evening, sir sergey let's start our conversation with the iranian missiles that were delivered to the russian federation via the caspian sea. we are talking about 200 ballistic missiles, which... have

now appeared in service with putin's army, and it is reported that deliveries of the northern ones took place in parallel. from north korea ballistic missiles. can we consider this situation with iranian missiles to be a red line for our western partners, the line that the russian federation has crossed with iran, and that the response to the crossing of this red line will be quite tough and understandable for both countries. well, i would say so, the reason for the fact that this answer has already been formed technically, that is, if we take it at the level of the headquarters of the ministries of defense, then the reaction to the two arguments is the actual supply of ballistic missiles from iran,

especially, and from north korea, which is happening not for the first time, as well as successful results. of the kurdish operation, they encouraged both london and washington to the fact that both the intelligence services and the ministry of defense made a positive decision regarding the increase in the supply of weapons to ukraine, the withdrawal restrictions and the supply of high-precision long-range weapons, however, this decision must be finally approved at the... military-political level, that is, by governments, presidents, well, depending on this or that country and competence, because in fact the supply of such types of weapons depends on the purpose further operations and strategy and tactical tools

to be used. the visit to ukraine by the minister of foreign affairs of great britain, david, was not accidental. and united states secretary of state anthony blinken, because it was about arguments for making a decision at the highest military-political level, both in london and in washington. obviously, the conversation on this topic is not over, because i say once again, if the technological technical parameters are clear and there are enough arguments, then it's over. of this conversation, obviously, what will happen after the dialogue on the 13th, that is , tomorrow's dialogue between the prime minister of great britain, keir stormer, and the president of the united states of america, joe biden, because it is very important to understand that

the resources that both parties have, and also in others allies covered their needs, based on the goal that stands and the strategy that will be... implemented by the military and political leadership of ukraine during the war. it is clear that this work is not limited only to the dialogue between london and paris, forgive me washington, because it is necessary to connect those parties involved in the production of such weapons, this is italy, this is france, this is also the netherlands, and therefore it is clear that there is still a certain period. there will be a dialogue, from my point of view, it has a high probability of completion and receiving a positive answer to fall somewhere at the end of the session of the general assembly of the united nations organization, the so

-called high-level discussion, this is no less, no lower than september 26-28, 28, but further... there will be formalities that will have to be fulfilled, this is the signing of contracts and so further, that is, from my point of view, the full stop in this case can be set somewhere in the middle of october, as for the supply, respectively, then it already depends on which warehouses and where to get the weapons, because they are available in european countries, and it is clear that there are a positive decision, because... for all these categories of weapons, which relate to high-precision and long-range weapons, literally in recent months, ah, they increased the orders of the ministry of defense of all the states i mentioned in relation to manufacturers for

the next year, on 20, 2025 , 2026 year, that is, from my point of view, there is only a further procedure here, which should... well, work out all the necessary answers, well, so that it is not said later, because remember where they circled around the congress for almost a year, looking for... an answer to the question is whether there is a mr. fix plan or not mr. fix's plan and as a result only this week received a certain report on the strategy, that is, there are still some issues that need to be closed, but from my point of view, already starting last week, when the head of the mi-6 said something in his speeches richard moore and cia director william burns. speaking to journalists in london, it became

obvious that these decisions are at the final stage of the production period. by the way, here is the guardian before the meeting between the president of the united states of america and the prime minister of great britain, which will be held on september 13, has already written that london has decided to allow ukraine to use stormshadow cruise missiles on... the territory of russia, but in the near future, as the publication writes, it will not be officially announced in order to avoid unnecessary provocations. citing its sources in the british government, the guardian writes: the joint visit of blinkin and lemy to kyiv on wednesday to meet with zelensky would not have taken place if a positive decision had not been made on stormshadow, but the british called excessively provocative and public statement about long-range missiles in kyiv, and therefore there was no statement, writes about it. and adds that restrictions on strikes with a range of more than 300 km will apply as before. anthony blinken,

the secretary of state of the united states of america, who was in kyiv on september 11 following negotiations with the ukrainian leadership, also did not directly announce permission to use american weapons for strikes on the territory of the russian federation, but hinted that such permission could be granted in the near future. let's listen to what he said blinkin we discussed long range as well, and as i said at the beginning, i'll pass on to the president in washington, i'll pass on what i 've heard the president, and david he'll do the same for his chief, the chief, and our presidents, they'll meet later in the slaughterhouse, at the un, and from the first day, as i already said, we were adjusted. it is interesting that

today putin publicly said that if such permission is given to the armed forces of ukraine, it will mean that nato and ukraine's western partners have entered the war on the side of ukraine, although, mr. roman, over the past 2.5 years, putin has been telling everyone in russia that the russian army is not fighting against ukraine, but against the nato bloc and against the west, against the united states of america, but on the territory of the ukrainian state , this is what he says and what his accomplices, volodin, piskov, say about the fact that we will get some more wunderwaffe superweapon there , which will allow us to defeat ukraine, this from the fact that they do not know what further actions may be. our partners and ukraine, and the fact that the 300-kilometer zone around ukraine

towards the eastern border, and abroad, beyond the eastern border of ukraine, will simply turn into ruins, most of the factories, warehouses, which have a military purpose, are they afraid that this will have total consequences for russia? well, the first thing is... you see, they are able to get the balalaika at this level, at the moment, and this was already clear about a year ago, from the point of view of further development and the arguments that they can use military-technically, as for impression zone, it is not only a question about the distance that was voiced by you, we are talking about the impression of those positions and those... objects that are infinitely capable of militarizing the economy and providing

the russian army with the necessary weapons, especially missiles, especially airplanes, because actually in the current situation in violation of all the laws of war, humanitarian law, and the führer of moscow strikes about the social sphere, and actually... this, especially after the actions we have already discussed, became clear for the west, and therefore these conversations were held. not only about solving current problems, but also about prospects related to economic growth, formation of the defense-industrial complex. please note that at this briefing , both ministers had to answer this question several times, and they divided their answer into three parts: this is

the answer to the current problem, that is, the withdrawal of permits and the supply of relevant weapons, missiles. missile complexes, as well as joint production, because it was no coincidence that both sides mentioned the numbers that have already been included, pay attention to how minister lemy argued his the position that we do not just help, but we carry out joint production in several directions, the same was said for the first time by the secretary of state of the united states of america, here in this regard we can talk about more than just one person. and piecemeal solutions concerning the fear and words that sound from the mouth of the führer and his clique, you can also add shoigu and many others to it, but, as you understand, in this situation we have to listen to the führer of this moscow scumbag, it is a worse thing for us to do, let it slap what he is

considers it necessary, our task is to discuss all the details with partners and as possible. to gain victory in this war as soon as possible, so that this bald man does not spoil humanity and does not create problems for humanity, i do not say, killed so many ukrainian soldiers and civilians. another bald point is that russian foreign minister sergey lavrov cynically stated during a conference in saudi arabia that russia allegedly protects human rights with its invasion of ukraine, and this is exactly what peace talks should be about, they will, let's listen to what lavrov said. if you discuss calls for a ceasefire and think about territorial exchanges, it is not serious. because the problem is not in the territories, the problem is in the rights of the people, which have been trampled under the law, and about which none of the initiatives floating in the political space do not mention. here, when we see a serious readiness

to defend the same human rights that the west on its flags takes from ... any issue but this one, when we see such a readiness, we, i am convinced, will easily agree on the place and time of the meeting . sir roman, lavrov is already negotiating, what should be agreed upon, or is he trying to say no, why don't they want to talk with ukraine? well, the other day there was a big forum in riyadh. in the summit of the persian gulf countries, and at this forum he went in the format of the persian gulf countries plus russia, lavrov was also there, he had several meetings with the crown prince bin salman, with the minister of foreign affairs binfarhat, and where

ukrainian issues were also discussed initiatives that were voiced by both the german side and others, including discussed technical issues regarding the probability, the possibility of the participation of the russian side in the peace summit, which can be seen from these meetings, because the meetings were with the leadership of saudi arabia, the meeting was held with the minister of foreign affairs of india, dr. jaishenkar, and if we take these two separate meetings , then what comes out of them: lavrov, while there, continued to implement the russian doctrine, which is to impose on asia and the world the russian security model, in which no

the existence of neither nato, nor okus, nor other military and political organizations is foreseen. and military and defense associations of the states of democracy and freedom, firstly, this means that russia continues to tour the path of strengthening such torpedoes for democracy as the sco, brics, eurases, and others like them, but at the meeting with the minister of foreign affairs of india, jaishenkar, and it was already happening. understanding that narendra modi, as the prime minister of india, can play a role in this process, including as a mediator, and perhaps... and a person who will play a key role in principle in the process of the activity of such a unit as the summit , then the answers were as follows

lavrov did not give evasive, i.e. exact, answers to these questions. instead, this speech to the press shows that moscow is trying in every way to shape the current situation. an anti-ukrainian, anti-american, anti-european position from any number of countries that do not accept the ideology of a diplomatic solution to the situation, in principle those formats offered by ukraine, the europeans, the united states of america or other democratic countries. from here it becomes obvious that at this stage. it is important for ukraine to initiate and speak about diplomatic, international efforts, but more importantly - it is to create a mace

of peas by force and drive this rat of moscow into a corner, so that he has no way out, under the pressure of force, and to force him, driven into a corner, to accept the conditions of a democratic world , and actually the first part. of our conversation was devoted to this, and this position of mace and gingerbread, it must now go as closely as possible, in parallel, in order to, once again emphasize this, force ratsyuk to accept the conditions of a democratic world, well, as for the minister, horsehead, you understand very well that he will say what he is told from the kremlin. mr. roman. obviously, at the end of the year, perhaps at the beginning of the next one, a second peace summit is planned, and

zelenskyi also spoke about this peace summit, and during the visit of anthony blinken and david lamy , this format and the format that will allow ukraine to formulate this this this were also discussed the victory plan, which the president of ukraine is talking about now. zelensky says that all key issues have been discussed with our western partners. it is important that ukrainian arguments are heard. he wrote about this on his telegram page. and this also applies to long-range weapons, the provision of combat brigades at the front and the general strategy of approaching a just peace. at the same time, zelensky emphasizes that the peace plan, which must be prepared and presented before the second peace summit, must have an impact. to the russian federation to end the war. let's listen to what zelensky says. as for the victory plan, i will be consistent, and i will first

discuss it with president biden, therefore that he mostly depends on the support of the united states. this plan was absolutely necessary, and presented before the second peace summit, in order to force russia to diplomatically... end the war, if the partners support it, it will make it easier for ukraine, it will definitely make it easier for ukraine to force russia to end the war. how in a situation, mr. norman, when putin's ultimatum actually exists, and this, this ultimatum is called the capitulation plan of ukraine, how can i force russia to go for victory in this situation. or to discuss a plan to end the war or not it is necessary to discuss it with them, whether it is necessary to make efforts so that he himself

would want to sit down at the negotiating table, if not with zelensky, then at least with mediators, as in this whole story that is happening, to force russia to some, to some concession in this mr. serhiy, words will not solve the problem here, only force will work here, and actually, what we are talking about now is the need to supply ukraine with high-precision, long-range weapons, their quantity is necessary, the security of the ukrainian armed forces is necessary, the actions of the allies are necessary in this regard plan, this is the boolean cat that i am saying will not only strike, but will actually create pressure that will force führer moskovsky to ask for a dialogue. because if we consider here

the diplomatic language, the table dialogues, whether directly or through intermediaries, they will not take any action against the moscow führer. the force factor recognized by everyone, from the genius creator of the number of plans donald trump, to the current official heads of most states, only the force factor can compel. rat of moskovsky, being driven into a corner, into a corner not to conduct negotiations, but to ask for these negotiations, and from my point of view, this is exactly what the focus is on in the current situation, the delivery of appropriate point strikes, the presence of such weapons is a very serious and strong argument, and in this case, in that among them it is important to paralyze. and

such antics of the axis of evil, like north korea, like iran, like belarus, so that they don't hang around between the legs when the rat will be driven into a corner. but in the current situation, this is actually what we are talking about, because words in such a situation, well, they can only looks like this gingerbread, but it has a key function. to play bulova kotegororoshka, and then we can say that we can talk about the summit as well, it is true that there are several voiced things that are very difficult to combine, well , first of all, we knew a month ago that the summit should take place before the elections in the united states of the united states of america, and they will be on the fifth of november, to be honest, if you look at

the global political calendar, there is no place for that in... as for the presentation plan to president biden, it is obvious it is possible during this period, in particular, on the sidelines of the un general assembly at the end of this month, but it must be understood that by that time it will already be clear and obvious who will lead the parade and who will claim the crown in washington, from here. it becomes clear that the topic of the presentation and development of an already joint plan will most likely pass several readings, and one of them will take place at the next ramstein, because the current 24th ramstein resulted only in certain conceptual signals related to this plan, it is obvious that further ones will to conduct joint work on him, so it can

be said that... kryga crossed the line in the understanding that in relation to the führer it is necessary to work in two directions, that is, with proposals related to dialogue, on the one hand, and on the other hand, by force to drive him away and to force certain actions, what you call the ability to conduct a dialogue and be compliant, i would put it harshly, the ability. of present-day russia to adhere to the charter of the united nations organization and the world order and international law. against this background, mr. roman, a lot appeared peace initiatives, olaf scholz is already talking about his own plan, and the italian newspaper lapublika wrote this week that scholz wants to be the chancellor of peace, something reminds me, he is the president of peace, now the chancellor

of peace. and scholz doesn't want to.