therefore, it can be said that the ice has been broken in terms of the fact that in relation to the führer it is necessary to work in two directions, that is , with proposals related to dialogue, on the one hand, and on the other hand, by force to drive him and force him to take certain actions, what you you call it, the ability to conduct a dialogue and be accommodating, i would... i would call it harshly the ability of the current rashistan to adhere to the charter of the united nations organization and the world order and international law. against this background, mr. roman, many peace initiatives have appeared. olaf scholz is already speaking about his own plan, and the italian newspaper lare publica wrote this week that scholz wants to be chancellor of peace, reminds me of something.

this is the president of peace, now the chancellor of peace, and scholz does not want to lose his position, the plans of china, brazil, india, that is, very, very many plans, but as for the plan of olaf scholz, he outlined his vision, very briefly, it does not give a complete an idea of ​​what scholz wants, but it is more or less clear, because in an interview with the cdf television company, he stated that... that the moment had come for peace talks with russia, which should, in his opinion, take part in the next global peace summit, let's hear what scholz says. in my opinion, now is the time to discuss how we will move from this military situation to peace faster than it seems realistic now. it is important that we have another peace conference, and president... zelensky and i agree that

russia should be represented at it. zelensky says he knows nothing about sholtz's peace plan and doubts its existence at all. let's listen to what the president said of ukraine. i don't know anything about scholz's peace plan, there can be no plans without ukraine about us, and i'm not sure that such a plan even exists. so, taking into account all these peaceful, so-called peaceful efforts of various parties, what do you say, mr. roman, how zelensky's victory plan will differ from all these endless plans that are being prepared outside of ukraine. it is clear that this will be a ukrainian plan, and that it will be made by ukraine with our western partners. all other plans are... well, diplomatic paperwork

mache, which was prepared for the second peace summit? first, this is a bit of a broken phone, mr. serhiy, in this interview, tagishao and tsdf, scholz says: supporting the plans of the president of ukraine zelenskyi, zelenskyi's word is heard there, i think it's time to have a discussion. regarding the possibility of taking this road to a diplomatic solution of the issues, therefore the thesis about the so-called scholz plan is completely far-fetched, because there really is no plan, but why on the 10th, olaf scholz came out with this interview, because on the sixth after the meeting with the president of ukraine, he said a phrase that spread like wildfire around the world about the so-called plan that... and therefore, in order

to record all these conversations, discussions, this interview was made, but in fact it is an answer on the current situation in germany, because after the very not bad election results in thuringia in saxony, on the 26th, if i'm not mistaken, or on the 28th somewhere around these numbers, the land of brandenburg about will hold the next election, it is... the land around berlin, and although in all these lands the influence of the number of voters small for the overall german situation, but it is important from the point of view of the party state of the situation in the social democratic party, that is why scholz took and saddled this horse of peace, but it goes in the fairway of the position of president zelensky, so... we are better, let's say, and

better and it is more productive to discuss the plan that is currently being prepared by president zelenskyi’s team than to divert efforts to... which are currently coming from germany, there is no plan there, now everything else, everyone else plans, because them, like you you are absolutely right, by god, please pay attention to the meeting and messages that took place after the negotiations between the government delegation of norway and the government delegation of china, where xi jinping, the prime minister of norway, spoke, i forgot his name. there, in the final part of the press release, there is a phrase that both sides will take all the necessary steps, well, this is in china's interpretation in order to find peaceful ways to resolve the ukrainian crisis, this is

clearly a chinese version, as for the plan, it is stated , that china, like everyone else, is related exactly the same to all the proposals that were voiced, and they also include the chinese proposals, because they are called the proposal on the chinese plan, if you look at the title, and the joint proposals of china and brazil, which consist of six points, but there are actually key ones two, and they can even be reduced to one, i am not talking about the positions of the african union, the proposals, because now viktor orban is also excited, from those 12 points. a letter to the president of the european commission and so on, all this is at the level of, let's say, information messages, which far from becoming commodities, or let's call them the menu on the negotiation table, it is now urgent, you can talk about it, but

the first thing that is urgent, i will emphasize once again, is the formation of the power of the fist, which will drive the moscow führer into a state of necessity. dignity that he accepted the conditions of the democratic world, the rules by which the world lives today. by the way, you mentioned the sino-brazilian plan, or the peace initiatives of china and brazil to settle the war of the russian federation against ukraine. zelensky in an interview with the brazilian told television about these offers, that 's it. let's listen. and the chinese-brazilian proposal is also destructive, it's just a political statement, i told lula, we handed over to the chinese side, let's sit down together, let's talk together, you, you are not our enemy, and we are not your enemy, what did you suddenly

decide , that you should take the side of russia, or be somewhere in the middle, as you can propose, we propose this... our initiative, we were not asked anything, and russia is included here and says: we support the brazil-china initiative, we don't fools, what is this theater for? that is, you talked with russia about some initiative, put forward this initiative and say: let's give such an initiative, but president zelenskyy said in a completely undiplomatic way, we are not stupid and there is nothing... we are stupid to paste, and well, this is also indicative, by the way, that it is already clear that these peace initiatives are to hell for him, but in this situation, mr. roman, another figure appeared, this is india and the ambassador of ukraine to india oleksandr polishchuk, he is in one of interview said that

president zelenskyy offers india to join the peace process on the way to of the second peace summit and play a much bigger role than being a courier between leaders. well , it probably means that the second peace summit should be held in india, is this an accidental interview, or is ukraine now starting to bet on india in this story, well, let's talk about the first part, from my point of view anyway , i am convinced that the president should use a different rhetoric, i will not reveal these things further, at least it was enough to say that these are proposals and stop at that. all other epithets, they are not suitable, because in this process ukraine also needs brazil, i am not saying there in some role, including china, as for india, this interview of oleksandr polishchuk,

the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to india was given on september 9, to the information to the indo agency, the big one to a news agency, one of the largest, such an interview is given only as a result of receiving a circular, and the theses that must be voiced were written out in the circular, it's just that i know this practice, i can see the handwriting. ministry of foreign affairs, so this thing agreed, this is not the ambassador's own position, this position was obviously developed at the bank. as for this role on rendrimod, it is no coincidence that after returning from ukraine on july 27, there was a conversation between modi, the prime minister of india and the prime minister of moscow. führer, where in his message on the social network x, modi said that he

shared his thoughts on a diplomatic solution to the situation. it was a very soft, correct formula used by the indian prime minister, but after that the very serious work of the ministry began of foreign affairs, and today in matters. training, working issues of training, qatar is working, saudi arabia is working and the ministry of foreign affairs of india has started working, in this interview, there is such a beautiful passage that from the point of view of ukraine, from the point of view of the president of ukraine, and india is too big a country in order... to give her the status of her prime minister as just

a postman, he deserves more, and this is read from the point of view of diplomatic language, as what kyiv so unobtrusively offers to the prime minister of india the role of a mediator, he started in this regard, as i said, to work, the ministry of foreign affairs of india is working, but you have to ... know this experienced man who grew up and was brought up by the rs system, this is such a paramilitary youth organization of india, where he was brought up in randramodi from the age of eight , and this organization was founded by the famous tilak, the freedom fighter of india, and he went through a very ... serious school, he was brought up on such military, hindu rules, and so

if he feels it gives india the right pace and there is a possibility form answers, he will play, can play a key role in this process, but here you have to be very careful, because this man is not easy. thank you, mr. roman, for the conversation, it was a politician and... diplomat roman bezsmertny. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live on these platforms, please subscribe to our pages, take part in our survey. today we ask you about this. do you expect the united states of america long-distance permit until the end of september? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have a separate opinion, be sure to leave it in the comments under the video. video on youtube, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on

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oleg strilka, the spokesman for the head office of the state emergency service in the sumy region, stated this on the air of our channel. let's listen to what oleg strilka said about that happened that night in konotop. they hit the infrastructure objects, realizing that they were hitting the infrastructure objects. a five-story and a four-story apartment building were hit. understanding that the withdrawal will be exactly there, and will be precisely at night time, when people are resting, sleeping and are at home with their children, hitting an educational institution. medical facility and their damage also in my opinion it was clear that it would be like this. the city, unfortunately, remained without electricity, there are problems with water supply in konotopi, well, in general, the intensity of attacks by the russian army on the territory of ukraine in the sumy oblast is increasing, and in the border areas,

this means deaf and other settlements that... are located on the border with the kursk region, the enemy is trying to attack both civilians and industrial objects hit the city of sumy as well. i hope that we will restore contact with viktor boberenko and he will tell us about what is happening now in sumy itself, and of course, of course, it is all connected with the fact that the enemy is trying to strike sumy region, sumy region. on is located on the border with the kurdish region, a large contingent of the armed forces of ukraine is located in the kurdistan region and is conducting a counteroffensive or an offensive against the kurdistan region. putin and his accomplices in war crimes are commenting on what

the president is saying, saying that they will do everything to free kurshchyna from the armed forces of ukraine. zelensky says that he confirms the russian counteroffensive in the kursk region and the concentration of the military near the border in belarus, he stated this at a joint press conference with his lithuanian colleague gitanas nausieda, let's listen to what the president of ukraine said. the russians have started counteroffensive actions, this is according to our ukrainian plan. as for belarus , we have seen the clustering, we have seen it for a long time, we are monitoring this process. so, i will once again emphasize what president zelensky said, that the russians have started counteroffensive actions, and this is according to our ukrainian plan. oh, obviously there will be, there will be some, there will be some details of this plan, but later, obviously, we will see the actual

results of this operation in kurtshchyna. and we are in touch. viktor boberenko again, now phones, apparently, there are problems in sumy with the internet and with electricity, i understand, mr. viktor, i greet you, you can hear us, i can hear you, good health to you, thank you for joining our broadcast, you are in a front-line city, and it is clear that there may be various problems with light and with communication, which is happening now in sumy oblast, in particular in sumy, because i have already said before that what was done that night a powerful blow to the ground floor, and people were left without electricity, without water, and there are problems precisely in this city, what is happening in sumy, in sumy, now the light suddenly went out in my house, that is

, unexpectedly, we didn't even have blackouts for three or four days, but pomo, but since friday. that is, for almost a week today, we have been living in the dream regime of not turning off the lights, but now they turned them off just like that, but 15 minutes before our broadcast with you, i still didn't have time to run to some other place, that's why, well, let's go to clarify, but it is clear that this is due to the fact that cabs are falling, front-line communities are shelled where they can from artillery. from mortars, and when ours pushed them back there for the sake of justice, the exits are such an interesting topic that some of these communities have stopped, well, they will fall within the reach of russian weapons, but others, those to the north of the sejm, or to the south of the vorskyi, such as piserivska, or everything north

of the diet, it falls into the eyes of the traps, and the russians , because of... their, well, inhuman cruelty , knock them out the esman community, glukhiv, and the glukhiv community, we must understand that it is a large university city, there are more than 30,000 people living in the community itself, and if only, well, it hurts, yes, it is not so easy to evacuate such a city, and kanatop, where almost 90 thousand people live there, suffered. in kanotop, they got into an infrastructure object, the light went out in several microdistricts of the city, not in all of kanotop, and there is water in some areas. but in the meantime , we have problems with electricity and water, just yesterday there were more than 100 shellings of sumshchyna, more than

100, imagine that, plus, they are hitting where they think in terms of the military, so here we are in the nizhnyosyrovat community, there were a cluster of cars because they are collecting soybeans, or something , well, in my opinion, soybeans were standing there somewhere. a dozen cars flew in, the driver was killed there, many cars were damaged, many drivers were injured, but they hit the bezdrik, they hit the military, but i can't reveal any details, but there are many, many, many, they sometimes they go to the military, and sometimes it's stupid as in a dump, stupidly in the center of the city, district and it flew, fell under the windows, a bunch of houses, remained without light. also last week we have prokopievo, well, now svobody avenue, it fell, it fell on the ground just in a residential micro-district,

and in front of it in kursk, a former kindergarten, where is this foster care, well, the point where it is, well, in general, in the network of social services for children, but it got there , that is, they throw it around the hospital, the ballistics did not fail. thank god, but there, where it is simple, where there are many wounded, they know that there are many wounded, and they beat there, well, this is russian humanism, so that we know what, what we need to know pro-russian, today, mr. viktor, president zelenskyi announced that the russians had launched a counteroffensive in the kursk region, but he really said that this was according to our ukrainian plan, i do not know for sure what this ukrainian plan is, but... obviously, if the counteroffensive began in the kursk region, then this front , which is now between the russian army and the armed forces, one way or another

it will be it is obvious to approach sumy oblast, including sumy. what, what, in this situation, what do the local authorities say, what do the citizens who are in the city and in the region say, i know that people are being evacuated in glukhiv, so i will tell our viewers what gluhiv is up to. 7 km to the border with russia or 12 12 km, well, it’s just like from sum to stytskivka, well, it’s about that, that’s where i was born, and actually, what do people say, they ’re going to go, there’s some movement of people, they understand that it’s one way or another will inevitably return to the territory of ukraine, well, there is no pessimism. we understand that now, well , actually, when they ask me, i say yes, a new front has appeared, of high intensity, and it was, it didn't go anywhere,

they started shelling sumy region heavily, let's say, from in the month of march, but march, april, there is a very strong pre-easter, there it has already taken off, well, these communities began to take out pisrivska, krasnopilska, khatinska, yunakovska, bilopolska. vorozhbyanska, why, because it was from here that the freedom legion came into play, then the russian volunteer corps, and they just started to take revenge, yes, take revenge, they can’t take revenge on the armed forces, they take revenge on ordinary people, that’s all in sums, if they understood, yes, many families are sitting on suitcases, in many families, someone could tell who has relatives. well i have children, yes, they are not poor, they went to school, they are not poor, well, i’m here if it were, well, he goes out there without a family, and that one,

but many of them have nowhere to go, nowhere to leave, well, all schools are working online, people are sure that there will be more intense shelling, and i would, but i would not say that very many people have left, well, maybe, well, somewhere here... 80-90 percent of of what was before the war, because someone may have moved to us, but, well, internally displaced persons, displaced persons, many of these communities come there, which suffer, there from the same pisarivka, from krasnopill, where they go, from bilopyll, first of all from vakhtyrka, to the same kanatop, but there they flee from the northern ones from glukhov, there or from novgorodsky to ... tostok, well, that is , they leave, but within the boundaries of the region, most of them are internally displaced persons, and therefore , if there are people here, well, it is clearly not less. and everyone

is ready, everyone is ready for, well, such blows, actually people are already used to the fact that life here is embarrassing, but we understand that the front can move in the direction of kursk, as well as in the direction of soum, that is such military happiness, but now, first of all , i want to say once again, through you, to the whole of ukraine, that there is no panic, if only the people had their suitcases packed. but especially no one is panicking there, that is, there, if putin expects that a city of almost 300,000 people will start to disperse here and there, then he is wrong. thank you, mr. viktor, it was viktor boberenko, a political expert from the city of sumy, and he told us about what is actually happening in the north-east of ukraine and the border and front-line region

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