such an incredible fruit, and of course, as i already mentioned, the plum pie, which becomes especially popular in the spring, when the plums ripen, is like this, well, maybe you have heard such a famous story, when it seems that the new york and times newspaper wrote a recipe in a certain year plum pie, well , it was obviously not printed the following year and the people were simply indignant and demanded to be reprinted en masse, and since then every year this recipe has been printed, i tried it, maybe i will tell about it in one of the broadcasts. now is the time not enough, but very simple and very tasty. we talked about plums, now let's talk about magnetic storms. magnetic storms have been observed for several days now, not just some small ones, but quite powerful, moderate and strong, and now here is a forecast chart for your attention, and you know, so, uh, you see that the earth's magnetic activity is expected to be strong tomorrow, that is, such serious magnetic storms, in addition to such heterogeneous... weather that is currently

observed, these are even stronger magnetic storms, please pay more attention to your well-being, to your health, and especially to the prevention of this health, well, it scared you from all sides, now let's move on to the actual weather forecast, tomorrow is friday, september 13 , and we'll see what the synoptic situation will be in each region of ukraine , we traditionally start from the western regions, so tomorrow in the west of ukraine, which... after all, this is almost the only region where no significant precipitation is expected tomorrow, and the air temperature is comfortable, as you can see, 24:26, well, it will not rain complain, there is still ahead, therefore tomorrow will be such a respite, i think everyone will like the residents of the western regions, in the north of ukraine, tomorrow the cyclone with atmospheric fronts will still have an effect, so there will be rain from time to time, heavy rain in places, obviously with clearing, with a stop, but the air temperature remains stubbornly high. 25-27 above zero, in the eastern

part of ukraine the air temperature will be the same as in summer, 29-31°, in kharkiv region there is a possibility of short-term heavy rain, in luhansk region and donetsk region without significant precipitation. in the central part of ukraine, from vinnytsia to dnipropetrovsk region, the air temperature, as you can see, is 26-30°, high, very, very warm, sometimes it will rain, i want to say. that they go unevenly, so if you don’t have rain somewhere, well, well, complaints are all about the atmosphere, but the synoptic situation is such that i can’t say without precipitation, periodically there is a possibility of local rains, in the south of ukraine, tomorrow without significant precipitation, the air temperature will range from 27 to 29-30°, that is, it will be very warm and mostly dry, and in kyiv, the capital. tomorrow

the air temperature will reach 26-28°, yes there is also a chance of short rain and some thunderstorms please now there are thunderstorms now please don't be scared keep an eye on the messages maybe look at my social media page i always report there for example if there is a thunderstorm because now our nervous system, well, it needs some reinforcement and professional support, and of course, keep a close eye on our updated weather forecasts on the espresso channel. thank you very much, ms. nataliya, goodbye until tomorrow at 18:10, good evening, we are from ukraine, events, events that are happening just now and affect our lives, of course, the news story will tell... about them,

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today i have olenka cherninka as a guest, a writer, photographer and mother of the hero. olenka, i congratulate you. today we are visiting, and you know what i want to talk about with you today: the war has changed us all, we will never be the same as we were before, and we got this terrible, an impressive experience, an experience that we might never want to have in our lives, i talk to many people, i ask about many things, but today i will talk with you, probably about the most painful topic in your life, because i start every interview with 24 february, and i want to start an interview with you from may 20, 2023, i remember this day and i know that

you remember it very well and can tell what this day was like, it is usually said that mother feels and... knows, and she has such a connection, on this day, the way i experienced all the days from the beginning full-scale invasion, how mykhailo went to the great war, i was worried every day, for some reason on this particular day i was absolutely not worried, i was calm, and if you believe the words of my brothers, i was calm all this moment, when, as they say, the child was already was lifeless, i felt nothing. and even when i called my brothers and introduced myself, i said, hello, because i knew him, i corresponded with his wife, and then i hear that something is wrong in his voice, and i say that mykhailo is wounded, he says no , unfortunately, unfortunately, he died,

i remember this conversation to the last second, my emotions, my state, i... i spoke to him quietly, but my mother and sister heard me from the very other end of the apartment, they came running, my wife, i could no longer call my wife called yulia, and i just heard a terrible scream in the receiver, a cry of despair from marta, that was the day of may 20, 2023, a year has passed, almost, almost, and look, this is your experience, of course i would like to... never no one experienced it, but we understand that during these more than two years of war, a lot of mothers, wives, sisters, daughters experienced the same experience as you and we understand that the war is not over and so many more

will go through this experience, so i wanted you to share it today, that we need to know where to turn... how to act in such situations, do you remember those first minutes, hours, days, what you did, who supported you, and in general, i received the most support from my sister, yulia cherninka, from my best friend, marina savka, and from marta, mykhailo's wife, my daughter-in-law, well , of course from my mother, this... she was like that support that if it wasn't for them, i don't know if i would be alive today, that support was fantastic, what should you do at such times, to be honest, for me that period of time was, i don't remember everything, it was like everything is in a fog, i

only remember that everywhere at all the institutions where we went, marta supported me by the hand and only said: here you have to sign, here you have to, i didn't even read, because i couldn't understand anything... in general, what happens if a person finds himself in such a situation as me, just remember to report to the police application, to the security service of ukraine, to the red cross, to the un, to the commissioner for missing persons, and to the coordination headquarters, this is the main thing, where everything must be submitted, all applications according to their requirements. i just recently applied, there is this alexey yukov, he drives, i forgot what his name is, the bridgehead, the bridgehead and the black tulip, we also filed an application

there, all the data about mykhailo and the banana boy who disappeared with mykhailo, this is his brother and close friend. how did i survive? well, actually i did survive, because i still survive, i can't call it life because it's survival. i turned to... first of all, to qualified specialists, never turn to psychologists, they will not help you, this is not the kind of situation where a psychologist helps, a psychologist is a breakup with a boyfriend, things are not okay at work, well then corner, then you can go to a psychologist when such a situation occurs, a psychologist is like a poultice for a dead person, he will not help you, you take one step forward, two steps back, one step forward, two steps back, you need to consult a psychiatrist, moreover... a practicing, qualified, with good recommendations to give you the right

medical support and to be treated by a specialist, a psychotherapist, she has been working with me for a year, viktoria zabor, she works as a psychotherapist, we spend an hour together with me every thursday, and she prescribes and changes medications for me so that i don't get used to it. to some, to others, lyudmila oleksiivna samsonova, these are two, two people, these, these are two stupas, thanks to which i also survived, and thanks to which i have them on facebook, they read all my posts, this is for them as my medical history, how long did you turn to, how much time passed after may 20, when you turned to specialists? i think somewhere in the middle of june, because yes, somewhere in the middle of june, i called mariana

savka, yulichka, my sister did not leave my side for three weeks, she was just with me 24/7, i called maryana, yulichka left sometime then, i called her and said, i'm going to go to the hospital, but please go with me so that i don't give up at the last moment, because we're all children they got used to the soviet union. that psychiatry is something very scary, you made this decision yourself, or your loved ones didn't, i made the decision myself, because i realized that i was falling into the abyss, and despite everything, i am waiting for my son, and i i don't want him to see me in some inadequate condition, and the condition has already actually slipped to inadequate, well , here it is probably worth telling our viewers that you do not know whether he is alive until today... or what is wrong with him, brothers, they all shout with one voice,

that he's dead and they're sure of it, there's no body, there's no case, i'm not sure, and i 'll never trust anyone to the end, i'll wait, i'll wait, if i have to, i 'll wait all my life, but i will wait, as i was still getting out of this state, i started writing a post. i started writing posts on the internet, communicating with my son, i remembered our stories from his childhood from the beginning, how he was small, how he was a teenager, what stories we had, what funny and tragic stories we had, and so on. and me i wrote them under one hashtag: lemberg, two dots, mom tsinu don't cry, lemberg, mom tsinu don't cry, lemberg is my son's nickname. at first he had the call sign lviv, but when he moved east, there was the position lviv, and

in order not to confuse the position with the call sign, his brothers renamed him lemberg, this is the ancient name of lviv, so i still wrote posts about myself, about my feelings, about how i was a mother before from the beginning of a large-scale war, an invasion, a great war, until may 20, 2023, what kind of mother i was, what we did, what we got, it was just, if my son called me and said: mom, i need so-and-so, but it is on mars, and i would say, yes, and fly to mars, i bought him such things, whoever reads the book will understand that it is just it was impossible to do it, but i said, i will do it, and when he wanted to transfer, he said, mom, i don’t want to... well, a fighter like him, of course, no one wanted to transfer, he is beautiful,

he has proven himself, and everyone the recommendations that my comrades later wrote to me, and the commanders wrote and commented on him, and i understood that of course, no one wanted to transfer him, he wanted, yes, he passed this height, he needs to go even higher, he already passed this, gained knowledge, he needs to go higher, and here he tore, tore, and finally, he left from the first days full-scale, from the first days, himself, he. came to the immigration office, they told him, we will call you back, and he left by himself, and then he said: "mom, guess what, i'll get a summons, and i'm already here", and he once told me: "mom, they don't want to transfer me , you have a way out for the industrious, well damn, who am i and who is such a industrious, where do i have a way out to the industrious, but i know so much that he believes in me as in god and that i am such an authority for him, i said, of course i will find it, i did not know how it would happen, but in three days i already had a phone, in the evening i

i wrote to valery fedorovych, and in the morning mykhailo had already been transferred, valery fedorovych sent me all the documents, these are the stories. in this book there are stories from him, how he became a man, how he became a boy, how he fought, our military stories, reviews of the draft, well, the book is non-fiction, but it reads like fiction, and of course, my experience, how i got out of this situation, this book was long ago called a primer for the military, for relatives, military, for relatives, and for those who have nothing to do with the war, but... he could understand us and we became closer to each other, and why for my relatives, i ask for an explanation, why for my relatives , what is in the book, so let’s say i wrote about my experience, it will be a primer for my relatives, i wrote it, they fully evaluated it today, you know, can you give a few examples, just

tell me that exactly what exactly she wrote and that's it feedbacks very strong started after the release of this book? they started writing to me every day, i receive letters from people i don't know, mothers, sisters, wives write them, and just this morning i received a letter, thank you, some inna wrote me the last name, i don't remember, thank you for that you wrote this book, reading it, i got to know my husband when he told me how he was little, how he grew up, all these stories, it seems that you wrote about my husband. ivanka dymit, if you remember reading my posts on the internet, said: "god, i see artemko, i see my artemko, these are children born in free ukraine, they are completely different, they have been there for a few years plus or minus. and this book is a primer. how, i once dreamed when i got to the clinic ,

my doctor is treating me according to viktor frankl's method. and i understood." that my son often quoted various phrases, and when i now recognize that these are frankl's phrases, i understand that my son read frankl and was interested in him, and i fell into very good hands, and i, when victor frankol wrote a book in search of the real meaning, it seems, that's what it's called, this is a person who lived through a concentration camp, and he shared his experience, how he survived, what he achieved, what he operated on, what his meanings were, and people, when this war ended... the second world, this book of his became a primer, because almost the whole world was wounded by this war, and people reading this book, and it immediately became a bestseller, reading this book, they had such a primer for themselves, a survival primer, and i understood, writing these posts, serhii rudenko and volodymyr vyatrovych wrote to me that this should be a book,

they just wrote to me in private messages, it should be a book, and i collected this book, these posts'. compiled it into a book, named this book under this hashtag, and i, i had the feeling that maybe it will be, well, i don’t want to praise myself too much, but it might be with something similar to viktor frankl’s book, only it was during the second world war and a wounded society read it, and now our ukrainian wounded society, reading this... book, will find a lot in common, a lot of kinship, will see this experience, and perhaps in this experience he will find some necessary things for himself. who are these people who come to you now for the presentation of this book, when you visit different cities of ukraine? i did not even expect that the presentations would be so crowded and that the book would have

such great publicity, because the first edition was sold out in three weeks. i did not expect that it would be so necessary and so interesting for everyone. people who come, first of all, they come to sign, they buy the book at the presentation, they come to sign, and everyone wants to hug me, and i i want to hug this person, we hug, each person should spend a few minutes talking, someone is a mother, someone is a neighbor, someone is a wife, someone is just a person who is not... very, and i also noticed that mostly at all my presentations people cry in the hall some are afraid to read this book, thinking that it is very... arbitrary, dramatic, in fact, it is a drama of light, who has already read it, they say, there is so much light and so much summer, reading

it, they grow wings and want to fly, so you cry , sometimes over some chapters, but these tears are clean and bright, these tears of faith, hope and love, maybe those people who came to you for the presentation, maybe you... you remember, maybe someone told you some story that struck you, and maybe someone had the story is similar to yours, and you can share it , there was, there was not one, there was not one, when a woman approaches, and her daughter-in-law, the wife of her husband, wrote a book, he was sued by an eagle, the surname orlov. and my mother came to the presentation, my wife could not come to the presentation then, my mother came, and we both cried, hugged a lot, but she already knows for sure that he died, everyone who

knows me, who writes to me, who cares, people believe that mykhailo will return, i also really want to believe and really want him to write a sequel of this book, it would probably be called lemberg's return. that's what i want, god willing, god's will for everything. olenko, well, getting back to what you know about your son today, and what you don't know about his fate today, what answers they send you, what they say no nothing, quiet, quiet, i communicate with many of his brothers, i communicate with... brig, pavel palisa, i communicate with his kombat, bravo, i communicate with the financial department,

because marta processed there, receiving help, as a wife, she she is afraid of the military, she has a terrible fear, so i had to communicate on her behalf, so that marty would come. money, and we are very good friends with her, we weren’t that friendly before, but now we can go to the beauty salon together, well, just keep quiet, even together, we feel comfortable, and i think that mykhailo is happy if he knew you are lucky, because you have such a beautiful family that supports you, maybe you learned and..." when you traveled, traveled with this book to different cities of our country, maybe there are some special associations that unite such women, maybe there are some

organizations that help, because we understand that not everyone is really lucky, sometimes with family, with friends, and not everyone can get such colossal support, there are, of course, there are unions, there are organizations, and i was invited more than once , i'm not ready for unions yet. and organizations, i communicate with ivanka dymyt, i have enough of this communication, she supports me a lot, but is not ready, tell me why, you think, we are all different, we are all different, and i, to be honest , am a little afraid of this communication, i think , that it will harm me, well, that's what my inner intuition suggests for today. maybe i'll change my mind later, yes for now. you are afraid because there can be a lot of grief. i take every grief as

my own. and listening to each story, this is another trigger for me. i'm even the last one now sometimes i stop reading the news because i cry every time. every time a photo of a fallen hero appears on facebook, i cry over each photo. i thought that i am not ready yet. i'm not ready, that's how. i thought about it, and i got a lot of advice, and i thought about adopting or adopting a child, but my doctor says: until you adopt yourself, you are not ready, when you are already on your feet, it can be a very strong help and change you , or maybe on the contrary you won't be able to give this child anything, find what you can your resource, love yourself, hug yourself, there are... even such psychotherapeutic classes, you hug yourself, feel yourself, and feel sorry, or look in the mirror at yourself and talk to

yourself, with your... name, feel yourself, feel sorry for yourself and understand that life was given to you by god, and you don't have the right to waste it, it happens, people leave, people come, people leave again, and my psychotherapist also said: "take this, how madonna held her child , and imagine that this is a child, your child, do you have the right to hurt it? life, i'm trying to understand it now and live with it, feel it and be, be like that, maybe you can advise our viewers who have experienced grief, and maybe you know some other practices, or what

helped you, film? books that write posts on facebook, write, don't be ashamed, don't be ashamed to do a moral strip, don't be ashamed, don't be ashamed to show your resilience, your pain, don't be ashamed to show your despair, don't hold back, choose a hashtag and write a post every day , write about your husband, write about your child, write about your brother, tell stories, share, let the whole world know and hear and be proud as you are. tell me, please, look, what are the next steps, someone told you, maybe some state bodies, maybe the military, they told you what your next steps should be, what to do, nothing, wait, wait, i passed the dna, my...

dna analysis of the sample. we did everything we could. now we just have to wait. the territory where mykhailo and bananchyk disappeared is under occupation, no one will venture there. if suddenly their the wounded were taken prisoner, and that side never gives any lists, although lists are supposed to be given. according to all the rules of the un, they must give lists, they don't, unless you can use some special telegram channels to hunt them down, find them, which i do from time to time, but to no avail, so what else can be done, i would go there already , i would have already crawled there and i would have kissed that land of bahmut and i would have waited for my son and i would have looked for him. i don't know

what can be done, i did everything that was possible. by the way, i remember this idea of ​​yours, when you talked about the fact that you wanted to go there, i went, but i came as close as possible, through a friend's house to kostyantynivka from kramatorsk. i heard that every morning in kramatorsk you wake up and hear only bang, bang, bang, bang, you hear the war going on, and as close as possible to me. hmm, the brother of mykhailo's classmate, who also serves there, felix, he took me as close as possible so that i could launch helium balloons with a letter to mykhailo and a banana. i wrote them a letter that i was waiting for them, and we laughed a lot that there would be no in heaven i understand the object, it will be shot down, so the object, well, nothing, it flew away, and when i

was looking. he disappeared right out of my sight, i was carrying these jelly balls from lviv, we were traveling in a bus with volunteers, shaking everyone, with all our property, and these balls were traveling with us all the way, the war continues, and my next question will surely be difficult to you, very difficult, because it seems to me that i am no longer afraid of anything in this world, not even death. i'm not afraid anymore, look, women and mothers are looking at you now, whose sons, thank god, are alive, or would you let your son in, knowing that it would happen exactly like this, i didn't let him in, i did terrible things that i just didn't do, i begged him, his company, where he works, he works...