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of recovery in the project of the urban reconstruction and development program, every saturday at 18:30 at espresso. she actively spoke about ukraine, and this was one of the key points in the debate. camila harris failed to personally negotiate with putin. trump would like to cut off substantial funding to ukraine as soon as possible. twice its host... asked if you would like to victory of ukraine in this war with russia? donald trump is a disgrace to the united states, she has said this publicly several times, and in this way has made trump mad. all debates were only about ukraine. no, a trump win, a harris win, or a tie? this is an obvious victory. you are watching the state situation video podcast in which we speak. about

elections in the states, in america, presidential elections. well, our navigator, the political pilot in the american election race, will be a professor of political science at baylor university in texas, serhii kudi. sergey, i congratulate you. hello, rostislav. greetings. so, we're going to analyze now the first election debate between kamala harris, the current vice president, and former president donald trump. they took place, let me remind you, on september 11 in philadelphia. it was the first and possibly the only election debate between trump and harris. the second point is interesting that it was their first face-to-face meeting. meeting in general is another interesting moment: donald trump is considered the most experienced debater in america, this is already his third election campaign. i will briefly remind you that in 2016 he debated several times with hillary clinton and won that election, then the 2020 debate with joe biden and trump

lost that election, and now here is the election debate with kamala harris in the 24th year. kamala harris also had experience. debate, she debated vice president mike pence in 2020. who won today in philadelphia? what was said about ukraine and the war? i will say right away that it is clear that this woman was actively present during the debate, but she was not the first, not the most important. so, let's start with ukraine. donald trump repeated his an approach that will end the war in ukraine very quickly, in 24 hours, and even before he takes office as president, already after his victory, in case of victory. he said that, and i will quote here, it was in the best interest of the united states to end the war, and end it anyway. negotiate

a peace agreement, because we have to end all this so that people's lives are not destroyed. trump said that if he was the president, putin would not have attacked... ukraine, for his part, kamala harris, what she said, she actively spoke about ukraine, and this was one of the key points in the debate, she said that if trump were really the president, then putin would take over ukraine, that trump would be sitting in kyiv now. she said this: if donald trump were president, then putin would be sitting in kyiv now, and that putin would not have stopped in ukraine, he would have gone further to nato, in particular to poland, and harris added, by the way. that because of his friendship with putin, the russian dictator would be able to eat trump for lunch, even such a quote. so, we see disagreements, very serious disagreements in the ukrainian issue. sergey, how do you see these intransigence between harris and

trump. well, we haven't really heard any new ideas from trump or harris. we see that trump is trying to use ukraine to show weakness. of the biden administration, he notes a direct connection between the withdrawal of american troops from afghanistan and putin's decision to enter and start aggression against ukraine. we also heard some very interesting accusations against the biden administration that camila harris failed personally agree with putin to prevent war. although kamela harris answered him that in fact she had never met putin and that was not her goal. so... ukraine is once again seen primarily as a tool through which opponents try to accuse each other of discrediting each other's positions, and neither of the two candidates, neither trump nor kamela haris , have actually talked in detail about how

they are going to help ukraine e end the war and how will they try to help ukraine win? and actually from trump. we heard that his main problem is that america spends too much money on ukraine, he mentioned the amount of 150 billion dollars, said that in fact it is the responsibility of europe, it is not the responsibility of the united states to help ukraine, so we see such hints, indirect hints that trump would like to cut off substantial military aid funding for ukraine as soon as possible and force ukraine to somehow make concessions. russia in order to achieve an end to hostilities. i also noticed that trump exaggerated the number several times victims of the russian war with ukraine, that is, he said several times about millions. that is, these are clearly inflated numbers. ot. he also blamed

kamali garis for her recent support of putin, whom, by the way, garis herself called a russian dictator. another interesting point that i will pay attention to, he twice... twice his host directly asked if you would like ukraine to win this war with russia, twice he avoided a direct answer to this question, why? well, precisely because it seems to me that in trump's opinion this victory is impossible, and he believes that the war must end as soon as possible. in fact, he has said that he is going to put zelenskyi and putin at the negotiating table, even before he becomes president, it is not clear how he is trying to do that and actually get them to agree on something, exactly what zelenskyi and putin will agree on is also not yet the end is understandable, but it is important here. also realize that trump believes that all the problems of the world order

will be solved by his return to the white house, precisely because he is perceived by world leaders as a strong political a player who is not only able to talk, not only to threaten, but to take concrete actions of force, and he gave the example of his negotiations with the leader of the taliban, during which he directly threatened the leader. that he will destroy his family, destroy his house, if the taliban does not agree to peace agreements with the united states, so in this magical imagination of donald trump, his very return to the white house will help the united states, the united states to project power to other regions of the world and resolve any conflicts that are now happening in the world. and i also noticed, by the way, that he is so little. was afraid of the fact that other strong world leaders were saying that trump

is afraid of him, he quoted hungarian prime minister viktor orbán several times, so to speak, whom he also called a strong politician, this trumpian moment, such machismo, political, geopolitical, that others are afraid of me, are afraid and will be afraid, yes, you also noticed it, that's right, and it is also important to note that kamela harris succeeded not only in the case of foreign policy, but in many other matters. point to such donald trump's weaknesses and making him defend himself all the time, putting himself in the position of a person who actually has to prove to others that she's stronger, that she's worth something, and that was a very important element of the debate, i think that helped camila harris at the end, in the opinion of many observers, still win this debate, and when it came to foreign policy, she several times on... repeated the statements of the military, generals who worked for donald trump,

who worked in his administration, and who after they left she said that donald trump is a threat to the national security of the united states, she also gave examples of statements by foreign leaders who said that donald trump is a disgrace to the united states, she said this publicly, repeated several times, and thus drove trump out of his mind, he was forced all the time. to defend their positions, and i would also like to note that when they were talking about whether it was possible to avert russia's war against ukraine, this aggression, this attack, haris said that she met with zelensky a few days before the russian attack and in general had five meetings with him in total, and that she tried to warn him, that they said that maybe an attack was imminent, she passed on intelligence information, that's what she wanted... so to speak, to emphasize , that she wanted to save ukraine, and trump was saying, just insisting that if he was the president, then putin

would not have attacked, well, somehow, even here there are such differences, that is, even these contacts are of some kind, and what trump also said that he had met zelensky, that he knew him personally very good, that is, this moment is such a warning and they say that you did not do enough anyway, that is, this is the approach of the two electoral camps, and so it is, and it seems to me that trump... believes that his personal relationship with vladimir putin, they is also an important factor that would allow him to prevent the start of military aggression against ukraine. in this way, we see that in reality trump does not understand the deep and deep reasons, the origins of this war. he does not understand that the war is not only about putin's perception of trump or anyone else, and with a global vision by vladimir putin and others. theaters in the world of how authoritarian states should behave, what their

goals are, how they should conquer new zones of influence, new regions, or am i wrong, it seemed to me that there are still slightly different approaches to the impact of the russian-ukrainian war on world order, because trump said, as i noticed, that russia is a nuclear power and that this could lead to the third world. and haris was just talking about the need to strengthen nato and help ukraine further, that is, that putin will not stop at ukraine, that is, both trump and garis are concerned about the future and... where russian aggression against ukraine can lead, but it's a little different, isn't it? yes, and here it is important to note, and we will also talk about the topic of immigration a little later, that trump's position and his emphasis, the threat of the third world war, the possibility of using nuclear weapons by russia, it resonates with the position of many

populist forces of the far right in europe, which they are trying to sell to voters. is the need for quick peace agreements between russia and ukraine, precisely under this discussion of threats related to a nuclear catastrophe, and the rhetoric that donald trump uses in matters of the ukrainian-russian war, as well as in matters of immigration and many other issues, it very precisely echoes the rhetoric of far-right populists in europe, but here we see that actually donald trump is the key candidate. from the republicans, he is a very influential politician, the far right in most european countries still remains a rather marginal political force, which do not come to power, in the united states we see a completely different dynamic. uh, about nato, because this is also a very important and extremely interesting issue for the ukrainian audience. trump, he has an approach, he bragged that he

forces europeans to pay for american, so to speak, protection, security. in nato and that they will continue to insist on this, and kamala harris said that this is the most successful alliance in history, and that everything should be done to strengthen nato ties with european partners, that is, as the future of nato, which, as trump sees him and as kharis sees him, serhiy. trump's position is not only that other european countries should pay more for security. and trump's position is even that if some countries will not be able to pay so much. how much is necessary to invest in the nato defense fund, the united states will not guarantee their security, therefore, in this way, the very essence of the agreements on which the north atlantic alliance was founded is undermined, when the security of one state is guaranteed by all others, and its participation in the defense of this state not

is discussed, it is not questioned. donald trump thus wants to revise... the foundation on which all european security and transatlantic security has been based since the end of the second world war, that is, these are very significant changes that he indirectly, but obviously offers to the american voters. a few more foreign policy aspects that are not directly related to ukraine. so, the middle east, trump says, it is necessary to put an end to the war in gaza, that there was an agreement here, and that the war in gaza would not have started. garis interesting message was that she advocates for two states in the future, for a two-state solution, that is, for israel to exist as a state, to exist with security guarantees, and a palestinian state to emerge, then afghanistan, you have already talked a little bit, the chaotic withdrawal of us troops from afghanistan, that is what trump insists on , which

biden brought out in a very hasty manner with chaos and casualties, and kamala harris ... insisted that it was trump who was working out the deal with the taliban, his administration. next on china, what we see: trump: jobs, china takes away, imbalance trade, and that trade and import tariffs on chinese products are necessary. kamala haris herself reproaches him that he used to admire , glorified all the gossips and admired the strong hand that he supposedly rules such a big country as china. we see that there are disputes. what is the world now, what conclusions does the rest of the world draw for itself after watching these philadelphia debates donald trump, kamala harris, what conclusions does the world draw for itself in their visions, in their approaches? well, donald trump perceives the world primarily in economic terms, that is, for it is important for him that the united states maintain its economic power, that is why

in relations with china, he sees problems primarily in the economic sphere, he does not say much. about authoritarianism, china, he does not talk about the desire to dominate china in its region, about the possibility of taking over taiwan. he says, first of all, that cheap chinese cars, for example, will come to the american market and destroy american jobs. so it's a very pragmatic, non-ideological approach that was really inherent administration of donald trump while he was president. harris, on the contrary , emphasized all the time that the united states is not only about trade, not only about the economy, it is about politics and ideology, and that one of the tasks of the united states is ... to oppose autocracies in the world and authoritarian leaders, and this is exactly what she emphasized , that for donald trump , authoritarian leaders are role models, what kind of model

he wants to emulate, he is proud of his relationships with various authoritarian leaders, she talked about how she, he wrote love notes to the leader of north korea, for example, and admired their relationship, so she wanted to emphasize in this way that donald trump is absolutely not interested. interested in maintaining the influence of american democracy in the world and supporting other democratic states. let's talk about other very important, i would even say, priority issues for americans, nevertheless, and the debate itself, and in terms of the amount of time that this discussion took up, the issues of the economy, migration and abortion dominated, nevertheless, so that in our audience there was no impression, as if all the debates were only about ukraine, no, let's... let's start the process, because there are really very strong approaches and disagreements here, differences between the teams, between trump and harris, even donald trump

says that the biden administration and kamala harris did not pay attention to migration, illegal migration to the states, that is, that it has become a serious problem, even donald trump said that some illegal migrants are criminals who go to america, that is, that come, come, make their way through the border is the worst. he even said that some migrants allegedly eat cats and dogs there, domestic americans, that is, what was it all about? indeed, we've seen almost every question that donald trump has been asked, he's turned it around on immigration, and he's constantly emphasized that kamela harris and joe biden, they're trying to destroy america by letting in millions of people from outside of other countries. and this topic for from the point of view of donald trump, perhaps for him, he considers it winning, precisely because it fits into his vision of the future in

case kamela harris wins, he paints all the time these apocalyptic scenarios, catastrophic scenarios of american decline, the destruction of the american state, and he points to immigrants, to millions of immigrants who come to what he thinks are the united states and commit miscellaneous mess. as proof that in fact, for kamela harris , the issue of immigration is not a priority, and therefore america will be destroyed from within, and therefore he also emphasizes that kamela harris during her vice presidency, did not do any no specific steps to limit immigration, she was actually in charge of immigration at the beginning of the biden administration, and we see the number of...immigrants, she increased during joe biden's presidency, and that's why it's important to donald trump, that's why that it appeals

to the concerns of ordinary americans in small towns, which is why the town of springfield in the state of ohio has become one of the central topics of this debate, because it is against this city that there have been cases according to the statement of donald trump. killing domestic animals by immigrants are not confirmed and journalists immediately reacted, the hosts of this debate immediately reacted and said that it was not confirmed, but donald trump mentioned it, and after that there was a veritable campaign on social media, we see a lot of memes related to as donald trump is trying to protect pets, so they want to turn the debate around illegal immigration into such a pop one. field, when they will use various new tools of influence on public opinion in order to promote this topic among

ordinary voters, i got the impression, after all, that on the other two questions, the two topics of this debate, there are one and the same: trump was perhaps stronger in the economy, because in the states and inflation than biden, well, that’s clear, prices are growing, but it is more liberal in the issue of abortion. garis looked stronger than the more conservative trump, that is , trump may have won the economy there, and garis may have been stronger on the issue of abortion. that is, what is your impression? short? i had a completely similar impression, that is, kamela harris acted as a defender of women's rights, women's reproductive rights, she cited many examples from women's lives after the supreme court introduced, canceled. in fact, this is a decision that allows abortion in the united states, and after many states have banned abortions, and she

gave examples of specific women, how what difficulties they experience in this regard, and public opinion in general in the united states is on the side that women have the right to have abortions, so donald trump tried to avoid the debate about whether he wants whether he supports or does not support abortion, he emphasized that he believes that decision should be left up to the states, and voters in each state should vote on the issue and decide. what politics will be in a particular state, but from an economic point of view, you are absolutely right, according to all the polls, most americans think that the economic situation during the biden presidency has gotten significantly worse, but surprisingly to me, it was surprising that donald trump did not use very many arguments to emphasize the economic problems which arose during the presidency of joe biden, several times he mentioned inflation and

growth. shift focus, his focus is a lot of little things that don't really concern ordinary americans, for example, they discussed who has more, the size of the rallies that their supporters gather at, they discussed whether, for example, who, who had what parents, how much they left to whom money, that is, such trivial things that help. to distract donald trump from the really key issues that exist in the united states right now states, and this was actually one of the advantages and achievements of the tactics of kamela harris during this debate. sergey, one more interesting point, briefly. look, with each other, one of the main tasks for kamala harris was to distance herself a little from joe biden, and trump several times attracted her, so to speak, magnetized her to biden, they say

and ... gave biden there and criticized that she was even forced to speak, but i’m not biden, that is, it’s not biden who is participating in the elections, i’m taking kamala harris, did she manage to get out from under biden’s shadow, show that she an independent, independent player? in my opinion it definitely succeeded, and in that sense the first debate between biden and donald trump was very useful because we saw how incapable biden is of holding a debate for a long period of time. time, how he is not able to find precise arguments, but some clever answers to donald trump's accusations, and kamela harris, on the contrary, demonstrated precision in statements, she demonstrated how ironic she really is, as a leader, she demonstrated very good performativity, because sometimes with just a facial expression, she demonstrated

to voters her attitude to the fact that... trump. and in this sense, the contrast between the very dynamic and energetic kamela harry on the one hand and joe biden's quoll was obvious. so yes, she has definitely demonstrated that she is an independent leader with her own vision for the future of the united states. and this is an emphasis that she is not joe biden, she is starting a new page in the history of the united states. i think it's very helpful for her because it helps a lot of constituents, she... talked about it, we have an open tent, we have an open tent, we are ready to accept all voters from the republican party, others, he helps them actually decide to side with the democrats and support kamela harris. in short, literally, a trump win, a harris win, or a tie? this is a clear victory for kamela harris. okay. it was a video podcast staff situation. we dissected and analyzed

tv debates before. donald trump and kamala harris, we were helped by sergey kudelya, professor of political science at baylor university in texas. thank you sergey. well, regular the situation will return next week. rostislav khotyn was with you. it's all good. time to find out what is happening in ukraine and the world at this time, khrystyna porubiy works in the studio. the russians attacked odesa that night, a 74-year-old man was lightly wounded, - said the head of the region oleg kiper. the occupiers launched in the city of shahede, as a result of the fall in...