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for the three ukrainian units, which are constantly in very hot areas of the ukrainian front, they simply exhaust these means once or twice and there is no, and there is no, because there is a lot of work, there are a lot of russians, they also have a lot of equipment, and all this is needed to somehow destroy, actually here we can help you, instead of coffee, let's donate, and it will be a little easier there, and not only in... the enemy has a lot of these weapons, they also add a lot of western electronics to their missiles , at least this is important and interesting the news that was told by our colleagues from voice of america, us deputy secretary of commerce matthew axelroth, he spent a whole tour, worked very carefully in turkey, and before that, in principle, in kazakhstan and kyrgyzstan, these are the third countries through which... and american
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radio electronics, including dual -purpose ones, are being supplied, and he actually said that this was the second line of defense against sanctions. and says: of course, we will not be able to block it one hundred percent, but at least here is this leaky colander through which they are trying to substitute imports, as they say russians, in fact, they just continue to steal american and western radio electronics in order to mount their missiles again and bombard ukrainian cities, but at least this tour is, as they say, not a word madilom, and we can congratulate it, we can congratulate it, although we see, that sanctions don't... don't always work, sanctions don't always work well, because they always find new loopholes somewhere, but really, if they try to find sanctions for loopholes, if they at least express such a desire, then let's hope that in the end it will give some this is the result. about what
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happening in the west, about the actual countries that influence whether the sanctions will work or whether they will be imposed at all, we will talk about them in the next few minutes of our broadcast. oleksandr golubov, an analyst from germany, will now join our broadcast, literally in a few minutes. and now we will recall the disposition, i.e., at first , we reacted quite harshly emotionally to scholz's statements. the chancellor talked about theoretically that it was time to end this war, appropriate, he said, if there was a chance, then he could... start, everyone thought that there was some other peaceful plan from sholtz, they began to say that with one hand he is helping the armed forces of ukraine, and with the other he is pushing ukraine to surrender its territories, because in exactly two weeks a plan, the so-called pacification of it, is being hatched, it is not even a peace
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agreement, not the end of the war, but simply ceasefire on the lines on which the plan will be signed at this moment, that is, actually on those lines that we see on... maps with a sufficiently large ukrainian occupied territory, which already reaches almost more than 20% of the entire territory of ukraine. now the second wave has left, scholz did not give any plan, didn't mean anything like that, in a word, this kind of swing is happening, this is what we want to ask our guest now, and he is already in touch with us, an analyst from germany, oleksandr golubov. mr. oleksandr, congratulations. good day so does scholz have a plan or no plan? i apologize, unfortunately, no, i did not hear what was said in the studio, we were told that in ukraine scholz's statements about the end of the war were taken as if there was a new
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peace plan, which provides for the actual gentle surrender of ukraine, i.e. under the words peace agreement and to surrender territories, and that's how it was emotionally perceived then. chancellor's words? it seems to me that this is too emotional a perception of his words. yes, we have a rather sad experience with germany during merkel's time, when she, let's say, helped to sign minsk, and in fact, insufficient measures in russia led to the fact that the conditions for this peace were not the best, but now in the case of scholz, well, to be honest, what i see we have to understand that recently there were regional elections in the east of germany, that's enough a crushing score for the ruling party, in particular for the party of scholze social democrats, and now in 10 days we literally have another election in the state of brandenburg,
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where the social democrats want to improve their results a little, and they actually have a chance, and they should to note that the eastern lands, they, they, let’s say this, but... the former gdr, the former, the former satellites of the soviet union, and there you drink to russia is much higher, and these kind of quasi-peaceful ideas are gaining more popularity, and it seems to me , which is partly what scholz is doing now is flirting with the east german electorate, and this is very clearly visible from the statements of scholz himself, on the one hand, he says that a peace plan, a peaceful state is needed. with russia, by the way, this is what zelensky himself says, it should be acknowledged, scholz directly says that i agree with zelensky that we need a peace summit with the participation of russia, but in the next sentence he immediately says that the peace that should be, it should be fair, it should be
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in line with, let's say, the territorial integrity of ukraine, and i think that in in this regard, we still have such a thing. the maneuvering of scholz himself is political, above all domestic political, which will not have a strong impact on germany's foreign policy position. mr. oleksandr, you already mentioned it, i just want, i want a small one. can you explain this phenomenon to us, eastern germany is a quasi-germany, in fact the territory occupied by the soviet union and russia, well , there was the berlin riot, and the kgb was called the stasi and repressions, and the number of people killed who tried to get over this berlin wall , and suddenly there is such a piety love for communist russia, and that's where it comes from, on the one hand, and on the other. alternative fued deutschland voting party, in which paraphrased meinkamp
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stuff can be found during their speeches in this election, where did it all come from? well, let's first, if we talk about an alternative for germany, then it sees its brother-in-law from afar, then let's be honest here, the opiate of the alternative to russia is no less than that of the former, more precisely, current east germans. leftists like sara wagenkny, etc., that's exactly what i'm asking, where does this come from, well, let's be honest, according to the principle of classical political horseshoes , the extreme left and the extreme right usually converge in the ecstasy of love for authoritarian methods, and then the only thing they decide among themselves is who will rule the country after all, let's be honest, on the eve of the collapse of weimar germany, and when the national socialists came to power , not only they were on the rise, but also ... the communists led by thelmann, and therefore the communists were simply unlucky at that time,
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the national socialists took over, in fact the current national socialists, the current kind of postmodernists have taken over in russia, sometimes they use communist ideology, sometimes they use openly right-wing ideology, but in general there is no real ideology there, there is only an unlimited desire for power and a desire to manipulate people, giving... simple the answers are difficult questions, and in this question, in this respect, the union of sara wagenknech and the alternatives for germany, the extreme left and the extreme right differ very little, they have the same anti-immigrant rhetoric radical, i.e. there is a problem of migration, for example in germany, but what extreme politicians do in this matter, they make the issue even worse, they actually just exacerbate the conflict without solving the problem in essence... but this is actually not the case cancellation of the schengen zone, when germany
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wants to introduce border control on its borders, on internal borders, within the eu, within the schengen zone, this has not been the case for many years, here and actually under the guise of fighting migration, they say the problem is how serious it is now here it is the question is whether germany will completely restore it all. what do the citizens of germany say to the poles themselves? first of all , it should be understood that this border control is still not the end of the schengen zone, it is a temporary, temporary measure, at least for now, and it is absolutely possible within the framework of the schengen zone, that is, countries have the right to introduce such measures in emergency cases, actually the wording is that when migration... threatens security and order in a particular country, or is now a threat in germany, you know, i can't
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say for sure whether it is threatened in germany objectively, but subjectively, for many germans it became a huge problem, because it became a matter of discussion precisely at the political level. we see that the issue of migration is now being discussed not only by extreme radical parties, but with the understanding that it is painful. a topic for their own voters, mainstream parties are starting to talk about it, they are actually the current government introducing these restrictions in order to intercept, so to speak , the initiative in the same alternative for germany, in the sarova agenknecht block, and my subjective impression is also that with all, with all the demand for migrants, so to speak, not in germany, because the labor force is needed here, the aging of the population is needed here, which leads to the fact that in principle. .. the influx of new people is necessary for the country to continue to develop, on the one hand, but on the other
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hand, the country's politics and society are configured in such a way that many categories of people who come here are not motivated to enter the labor market and integrate, and i think that a lot of germans are beginning to notice this, and the problem is that, again, for every complex problem there are two solutions, one simple and the other correct. many germans want to choose simple solutions, to deport everyone, to ban anything. in fact, there are examples in europe of quite successful management of successful management. immigration like denmark, it seems to me that the mainstream german parties will gradually adopt these policies, which until recently they considered extremely xenophobic, and now they will consider it is quite normal that when a person comes to the country, he should integrate, and for this , the state should intervene in more ways than just saying that you are good, we believe you and
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everything will be fine, here is your money, and that's why ... i just wanted to make sure that we don't have enough time, but you have probably also seen these publications and conversations refer to the research of the kyiv institute of world economy, and picked up the idea that germany is rearming very slowly, establishing certain some threats in the near future the years of the attack or the european war or the attack on germany, which do not have time, as it is from... you see, as it is from germany, this topic about us not being ready to defend, how it is communicated, and yes and no, that is, here the problem is two things: firstly, after russia's full-scale, so to speak, aggression in ukraine, germany has changed a lot in terms of defense, now germany has a new
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, very energetic minister of defense, boris pistorius, who is really trying to... knock out funding, rearm , i i see that new contracts are being signed, that is , compared to the lethargic germany until 2022, it is a completely different picture, on the other hand , we understand that this is not enough, we need more, and here are german experts and, so to speak, our closest neighbors, especially from the east flank, who understand the russian threat well, that's why they are sounding the alarm and demanding more, in one word they are pushing, yes, mr. oleksandr, thank you for being with... an analyst from germany, we talked about german affairs, and now we will return to ukrainian-russian anastasia gondyul, a representative of the olenivka ge community, is in touch with us about those very painful questions. ms. anastasia, we congratulate you. good morning. colleagues hear the community of olenivka, we will also remind you, this is a police station
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where ukrainian prisoners, in particular the defenders of mariupol, are tortured and destroyed by the russians. occupiers, this is what i just reminded people to reflect on the olenivka community, well , this is also the community that remembers azovstal and those who were taken out of azovstal in various ways, we actually know that you have prepared such a special appeal to president and ask for a meeting, for a joint press conference, so that you can ask certain questions, and we ask you to tell about it now on the air, so the deer community. this is an organization that includes the families of victims of the terrorist attack in alenivki on the night of july 28-29, 2022, it was our families who suffered during the terrorist attack, where more than 50 died, more than 100 were injured, and
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so our public organization has currently initiated a press conference... with the head of gur and all the negotiators who were in in mariupol, on may 16 and until may 20, under azov steel, they negotiated with the russian side about the exit, the so-called evacuation into honorable captivity, to date , we know from open sources of cnn that it was... prokakopenko, this is the acting, acting commander at the moment 12- of the azov brigade, and it was also general usov and acting deputy oleksandr kovalov. to date, these people, namely oleksandr kovalov,
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have been removed from the negotiating group by the process, well, denys prokapenko as well. these people undertook commitments, commitments about so and so they called this captivity so, let's say, honorable and promised our relatives an exchange in 3-4 months, but unfortunately, 3-4 months has already turned into 28 months of waiting, our relatives left with the hope of returning already in august and september. year home, but, unfortunately, it did not work for everyone, only for the officers, the personnel still remain in captivity. and today we are not satisfied with the answers that authorized persons and bodies are doing everything
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possible to save our relatives, and that we will definitely return everyone, but personally of the meeting with kirill budanov, which took place in july of this year, kirill oleksiiovych answered our questions about who it was more difficult to replace in 22nd year. that it was more difficult to change the officers, but unfortunately, we do not have a second medvedchuk, so russia does not want to hear anything about azov, and our relatives, it is not known how many more will be in captivity, we are not satisfied with such answers, that is why we are now initiating press - conference, we want to know the answers, who headed the negotiating group during the exit of our relatives... them in an honorable yes the so-called column, and we want these people, namely oleksandr kavalov, to return to this negotiation group and fulfill all the promises made to our
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relatives, fulfill everything that was promised to our relatives, and return our relatives, because they promised three or four months, but for a month of our relatives...were blown up in captivity, and to this day 59 seriously wounded are still in enemy captivity. did you, mrs. anastasia, receive an answer to this request of yours, maybe there are even some deadlines for this meeting, where you can ask questions and get answers? no, none we did not receive an answer, we also sent corresponding letters to the head of gur, kyril oleksiiovych. and we sent all of them to the president's office and to denys prokapenko and oleksandr kovalev, but unfortunately we have not received a single answer yet. and what are your
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hopes, apart from the fact that if such a meeting were to take place, would it change the options and the possibility of liberating at least someone, that is, it is about justice in the historical dimension or about the perspective. release at least someone else, of course, look, these people, the negotiating group, during the exit from azovstal agreed on the safe exit of 2,500 defenders, at that time in azovstal, the exit, well, they took out 2,500, and it was general usov and oleksandr kovalov, the acting deputy, who were in mariupol. and nothing happened to them, at that time they were able to agree on leaving for the so-called evacuation and returned back to ukraine, neither being captured nor
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having received any injuries, something was twofold, so that is, because when on these things we looked, we also remembered ilovaisk, the word of a russian officer who gave a green corridor, and then they were shot, or were we afraid of that? history, yes, but it didn't happen, and these people returned back to ukraine, not even hurt, look, thanks for informing our espresso viewers, we will also keep an eye on this, as soon as there is any change, we will continue with the actual to inform and monitor this situation, thank you for the story anastasia gondyul, representative. colleagues will continue in a few
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