there are no other options, but there is one more important nuance here: remember, when these billions of ukraine voted in the congress, it was decided there that it is legislative, that the white house should explain the plan of action and the goals of the current administration of joseph biden after the war, so this is what will be said in... it is disgusting, it resonates very strongly with phrases like values, international law and blah, but let's ask ourselves a question for a second, that the candidates for vice president are, as i said, disgusting, it is understandable, but, but they clearly declare, and there is already a very important nuance that this border will be strengthened so that they... go further, this, this is

simply to the point that this is not the worst option for us, it is not at all clear what should under the demilitarized zone, occupied because of the territory, well, it is occupied, there cannot be a demilitarized zone, the russians do not react to this, but to be clear, you need to study all the statements of american politicians, but this was considered in practice, they must win elections, there are nuances. either they win or, yes, i am i will return not to the time that will be, but to our present moment, so someone heard a clear plan from joseph biden, but what is it realistic, because the american generals, like other general states, set the military a political task, and they will take into account the number of missiles. i understand that the president

of ukraine is going to come to washington just in time and say: "joe, we've heard, and this, well, i've also heard it many times, that you will somehow leave so that you will be remembered well in ukraine, also so that you will be well remembered 'yatals, we need to bomb them, we need them to kill, not a grouse, you can go there, you can't go there, and so on, that's where the main thing arises, because i. simply to the fact that rhetoric is largely different, but what about in practice, let's ask a question, a big question mark, and also, after joseph biden , it could be worse for us, thank you, roman, for the conversation, it was roman tsymbalyuk , i remind you that this is a ukrainian journalist, blogger, a person who has a large youtube channel, join the youtube channel of roman tsymbalyuk. thank

you, roman, for the conversation, all the best. well, myself end of the program, friends, i will say that the toronto international film festival has decided to cancel the screening of russian propagandist anastasia trofimova's film russians at war, which whitewashes the russian invaders fighting in ukraine. consul general of ukraine in toronto oleg nikolenko expressed his indignation at the intention of the international film festival in toronto to show a film by a russian director. russians are at war, i will quote the consul general of ukraine in toronto. it is appalling that the festival defends its decision to show russian propaganda film "russians at war", justifying this financing with the funds of canadian institutions, in particular, in a situation where one of these institutions has already withdrawn its support for this tape and showed an internal investigation. and actually, the general writes about this. consul on his facebook, and it's

really a shame that the russians allow the russians to enter the international film festival and allow the film russians at war to be shown, to justify, as it were, those who are fighting against ukraine. friends, throughout our broadcast, i remind you that we are conducting a survey, there will be more this poll is in the second part of our program, which will start at 9:15 p.m., today we ask you about whether the permission to strike deep into russia by the west will bring ukraine closer to victory. rockets, so what are our tv viewers talking about, let's look at the results of the interim survey, 89% say yes, 11% - no. when you sleep on uneven ground. the upper spine

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on the air of our channel. congratulations, friends, on the air. politclub program on the tv channel espresso the most relevant topics of the week: nato member countries have huge arsenals, and russia is already on the verge of exhausting its resources. topics that resonate in our society. this is the question of trump's victory, what is it? analysis of the processes that change the country and each of us. what else can the russians do, are they able to use, say, the resources of the allied, with them, lukashenka's army there. vitaly portnikov and guests of the project read. help understand the present and predict the future offered to the united states states to conclude a bilateral security agreement with us is a project for the interested and thinking

political club every sunday at 20:00 on espresso. glory to ukraine, dear tv viewers, on the air of the tv channel, the program studio zahid, we will analyze the most important events of this week, in particular, we will carefully analyze the situation with the so-called negotiations, overt and hidden, there are a lot of signals, but we understand that some of them are just smoke curtain, our guests today are extremely informed daniel. and oleksandr morozov. the tv channel is now on the air a prominent american diplomat, ex-coordinator of the united states state department on sanctions policy, ambassador daniel frith will work. glory to ukraine, dear mr. ambassador, glad

to see you on the air. glory. well, it's an extremely difficult situation. we understand that the issue of allowing our military to use american weapons in britain is currently on the table. weapons, in general the weapons of the euro-atlantic community for strikes on military facilities on the territory of the russian federation, we understand that there was an extremely difficult debate, but there is the hope that maybe we will get this permission, well, the key story is to get a sufficient number of long-range weapons, yes, because the permission is extremely important, but the number of certain units that can fly to strategic russian. drama is no less important. i hope that the united states and the british government will lift restrictions on ukraine's use of long-range weapons for self-defense. in my opinion, ukraine should abide by the laws of warfare without any other restrictions. ukraine was attacked without

no good reason. and i believe the biden administration is considering its next steps. i really hope that it will be soon. a decision will be made to remove these restrictions. i understand that some are concerned about russian escalation. yes, russia has nuclear weapons, but so do we. we have, we must allow ukraine to defend itself according to the laws of war. but no other restrictions are appropriate. at one time, 100 years ago, polish prime minister paderewski, addressing his british colleagues, asking for arms, asking ammunition, he said that the poles pay with blood in order to maintain... the versailles order, in the same way, ukraine is paying with its blood

in order to maintain the world order, world international treaties and so on, and we understand that we need closer cooperation, a clearer strategy, a joint strategy, yes, which would allow us to win as soon as possible, we are talking about ukraine, and accordingly i would like to ask you... about the so-called plans, your vision, your sense of what is called a plan ukrainian victory, because a certain time there was such a concept to prevent ukraine from losing, but the victory of ukraine and not the loss of ukraine are significantly different things, but in any case, ukraine pays with the blood of its best children, so that the international order is respected. you are right that ukraine is fighting for the principles of what we used to call the free world. it is

about the principles according to which countries should not encroach on others for the purpose of conquest, and that there should be no empires, but only nation-states living in peace with each other one and respect the rules of the international order. of course, ukraine is fighting for exactly that, and it is supported by the united states, great. britain and those countries that we are used to collectively call the free world. russia, on the other hand, is fighting for an empire, putin's empire of greed and vanity, the russian empire of oppressing other peoples. this is not the path to stability, it is the path to eternal conflict. ukraine rightly claims that its struggle is also our struggle, and ukraine's victory will be the victory of the entire free world. we understand that american sanctions and european sanctions, they act

quite slowly, but sometimes the moment comes when russians start looking for food in the literal sense, i remember how at one time in the late 80s russians came to ukraine to buy sausage, respectively , i don't know if this scenario will be repeated now, but the more often i hear from representatives of the kremlin that it is necessary ... and not only they begin to understand the situation in which their economy is, but for now it stands, and for now we understand, that the people's republic of china and india framed the russians have a shoulder and we have to change it, on the other hand we understand that this requires the consolidation of all civilized humanity, but unfortunately, we see different international signals. that these or other states want to play that game with russia, that is, we

dump and buy cheaper resources, whether it concerns oil, whether it concerns gas and so on, and this somewhat postpones the effect of the shock economy. the sanctions imposed on russia by the us, europe and the g7 countries have dealt a blow to the russian economy. they caused pressure on russian military ... rank, but this blow was not painful enough. the introduction of sanctions resembles a game: you introduce them, and the subject of sanctions tries to avoid them. you try to fight evasion methods, and so the object finds new ways to avoid them. this is what is happening right now. in june and august, the biden administration introduced new sanctions targeting evaders. these are good steps, but theirs. is not enough, there are ways in which the united states and europe can increase the pressure

on russia. for example, the usa and europe should to make a decision on the use of frozen russian sovereign assets for the benefit of ukraine as soon as possible. i would prefer to take all these assets, because we are talking about 280 or 300 billion dollars, and use them to help ukraine. the alternative agreed to by the big seven. in transferring to ukraine at least the interest earned on these immobilized assets, which is about 50 billion dollars. of course, this is a good amount. but apart from them, i would continue to insist on using the entire amount of frozen russian assets for needs of ukraine. this is what the us and europe can do. the second thing we can do is to increase the pressure on the sale of russian oil. these new restrictions on how russia can sell its oil are costing it dearly, but it

is finding ways around the sanction. we have focus efforts on limiting russia's financial capabilities through the oil and gas sector and other sources of income. it is important to find effective ways to reduce their income, in particular by imposing additional sanctions and creating obstacles for oil sales. with regard to third countries, such as china, which are suppliers of dual -use military products and technology to russia, we should... increase pressure through increased secondary sanctions. this will apply not only to chinese companies, but also to banks cooperating with russia. it is important to make russia's aid more risky and economically unprofitable for these countries. sanctions, as you point out, will not immediately collapse the economy, but they may create

long-term pressures that will weaken the ability putin to support this illegal and immoral. mr. ambassador, frith, i would like to ask you about iran's deterrence strategy, yes, well, the information is almost confirmed, that the ayatollah regime is transferring ballistic missiles to russia, yes, they are of different types, there are different, different ranges of them, but we we have no doubt where these rockets will fly, yes, we, we do not know if they will kill me there, if they will kill our translator there, if they will kill any of the children, if they will be directed by energy facilities, we simply do not know, but we know that iran dared to do this, we understand that for them this is a wrong decision, and iran must pay for it, pay the full price of blood, on the other hand, we realize that we in ukraine are afraid of the fact that some additional sanctions will be imposed on iran, well , it doesn't get any easier, that is, our blood

is more important to us than the fact that the regime in iran... is already starting to falter and we understand how much ukraine and russian aggression against ukraine are connected to the situation, including on the middle east, and at the same time we are very concerned that the regime of the ayatollah and the regime of the kremlin are beginning to converge in what is called the military component, we had different expectations from a renewed new iranian president. you are quite right that russia... and iran are now acting as allies, a kind of axis of authoritarians has formed. china, russia, and iran are working with other countries that hate the concept of a free world and believe that russia should be supported in its efforts to rebuild its empire because these countries believe in empires and spheres of dominance.

iran wants to be a great power in the near future east, russia wants to dominate the post-soviet space and the former territories of central and eastern europe, and china wants to absorb taiwan again. instead , countries that value freedom, such as ukraine, poland, the european union, the united kingdom, the united states, and other free countries, believe in an order based on the principles of peace, cooperation, and sovereignty. this is not naivety, as it seems at first glance, but the basis of strategies that have been developed throughout... we share these values ​​together with ukraine, because we understand that the protection of freedom and democracy is a key only for ukraine, but also for our own national interests. this is what poland, the usa, ukraine and many other countries believe in,

because we do not know the alternative. this is the vision of the free world. order is opposed to imperial, it is a better and more efficient system, but it is this order that putin hates and it is this order that his allies like iran are trying to destroy, easy to say and hard to do. it is easier to talk about a free world order than to oppose dictators and aggressors who seek to destroy it. however, we must to take seriously the challenges of our time, because a lot depends... on the result , i can say that there will be fewer problems in the world, the russian-ukrainian war. as an american, if ukraine wins. aid to ukraine is not charity. it is in our interests, because our values ​​and interests are inextricably linked. i do not know what the situation will be in the american budget now, or

how actively the british labor government will work, but i know that in order to hold the country we need more, constantly more, such is the already sad logic of war, which simply eats up all resources, that is, war eats up money and so on. but there is also such a story as certain negotiation tracks. dear mr. ambassador frit, we understand that one or another is going on, sometimes behind-the-scenes discussions, sometimes even public stories are going on, the so-called istanbul summit took place at one time with the participation of the russian side, and we also understand what is now being counted on in the kremlin, that an unshakable will collective action can be reduced in part... and providing us with specific financial and military resource reduction, that is, it is not about the fact that it will be completely leveled, and on

the other hand, the kremlin hopes that their tactics of destroying our energy system will be able to force ukrainians to look at the war and the prospects for its end in a different way, i understand that this too broad a field to talk about, but about... i would ask you now to outline different scenarios that you think are realistic, yes, because there is mr. trump, there is ms. harris, there are so many different figures in the world that basically depends on our victory and what is ours the state will resist russian aggression, well , in any case , we have seen putin's plan plus or minus over the past few years. continuous attacks, the use of ground strikes, missile strikes and so on, but i would like you to analyze the different approaches in what is called

the perspective of forcing the kremlin to come to the negotiating table. at the event , the debate on support for ukraine continues. some argue that it is impossible to win the war that russia will eventually achieve. its goals, and therefore should insist on the earliest possible peace on russian conditions in order to stop hostilities. former president donald trump, during a debate with kamela garis, said that his goal is not to win ukraine, but only to end hostilities, presumably on putin's terms. there are many in the west who share this position. however, the leaders of the leading european countries, as well as the biden administration... continue to strongly support ukraine. ukrainians now sometimes express concern over delays in american decisions on weapons systems and slow

deliveries. i understand these complaints and agree with them them however, the biden administration has already done a lot for ukraine, as has germany, for example. although sometimes germany's position seems incomprehensible to me. she also made significant efforts to support ukraine. poland has also done a lot for ukraine. ukrainians are not alone in their struggle. the discussions at the event are understandable, but they should end with a decision to continue supporting ukraine. during the pre-election debates, kamala harris strongly and repeatedly supported this idea. she criticized donald trump, claiming he would ready to accept flattery from dictator vladimir putin, no matter what. will harm ukraine and endanger poland and all of europe. she used the language of american presidents such as harry truman and ronald

reagan, who defended freedom and opposed aggressive dictators. many ukrainians would say that these are nice words, but americans should act faster and more decisively in support of ukraine. and i agree with that. as i already mentioned. i hope that the united states and great britain will lift restrictions on ukraine's use of long-range weapons on territory of russia. ukraine has the right to defend itself, and russia cannot expect its territory to remain safe while it attacks all of ukraine, killing civilians and terrorizing ukrainian society with bombs, missiles, and attacks on energy infrastructure, worsening. life of the ukrainian people. russia has no right to any privileged status. i hope that in the near future the united states will remove

these restrictions. i was pleased to hear how kamela harris spoke in defense of the freedom of ukraine. this shows that it's not just joe biden supports ukraine, but the younger generation of american leaders also understands that ukraine's struggle is our common cause. dear mr. ambassador, frith, one of my favorite poets, thomas stearns eliot, once wrote a poem: "the barren lands." whether it's desolate lands, yes, i wouldn't want ukraine to become a desolate land, yes, we understand what we 're talking about, because the russians will very clearly hit our civilian objects, so this is not news at all, and accordingly, any important political or political military decisions, in addition to the fact that they must be bold, they must be quite quick, and now there is information that the president

of ukraine... volodymyr zelensky presented certain elements of his plan, his vision to the american establishment, i do not know what is included , well, it’s probably a state secret, i don’t know what is included in zelenskyi’s plan, but in any case, we understand that certain things must happen quite quickly, and information has appeared that the forum, the second the forum is dedicated to the formula peace in my opinion, ukrainian diplomacy during... the last peace summit in switzerland was at its best, ukraine chose a wise approach, trying to reach the widest possible consensus on issues that would unite as many countries as possible, especially in the so -called global south, and in my opinion, the ukrainians have coped quite well with this task, they have managed to make progress in gaining or maintaining support for the decisions of the peace summit in switzerland, or at least you

will. who did not sign the statement, but were present at the summit. so i think quite it is possible that ukraine will make even more progress at the next peace summit. progress can be defined as the unification of a significant number of countries to support the maximum possible number of agreed ukrainian positions. i don't know what the agreement on ending the war will look like. i'm not supposed to talk about it because i'm an american. what conditions will be decided by the ukrainians? i don't know how this war will end, but it will definitely not end with the russian flag flying over kyiv. putin has already missed this moment. we, the collective event, have to prepare for strengthening the security of ukraine, so that after the end of this phase of the war, russia would not be tempted to start aggression again. ukraine

must not... remain in the gray zone, the danger zone on the other side of the front line, outside the borders of nato and the european union. the gray areas are a green light for putin's further aggression. currently, in order to join the european union, ukraine must meet eu requirements. nato membership requires an agreement on how the alliance can help ukraine defend itself. we in the west must realize that stability in europe for... depends on whether ukraine will become part of our community. if this does not happen, russia will choose a convenient moment for its next strike. that is why, in the 90s, nato decided to accept new members from among the former satellite countries of the warsaw pact, which have restored their independence. this decision was made because there was an understanding that the gray zone is not a zone of stability, an eternal

temptation for russia. of course, this will require efforts from the ukrainians themselves, there is no automatic right to membership in the eu, ukraine must meet his demands, but i believe that after the war the ukrainian people will insist on transformations that will be worthy of their huge sacrifices. they will want to build a european ukraine, and i am sure that ukrainians will be able to achieve this. we have to help. ukraine to achieve this goal. its future should be connected with nato and the european union. and as for the future of russia, it must depend on the choice of the russian people. thank you, dear ambassador frit, for this difficult, difficult, but honest conversation on the air of the tv channel espresso i want to remind our tv viewers that an ambassador was working for them now.