glory to ukraine! glory to the heroes! glory to ukraine! glory to the heroes! glory to ukraine! heroes! glory! welcome back guys! actually, upon returning, i would really like to see, at least, even this number that we mentioned, the captured azov citizens who were promised, yes, and said: lay down your weapons, leave, you are ordered to leave azovstal and mariupol. there, not only the azovians, but also other defenders stood to the death and said that they would stand until the end, so that this number was changed to zero, then we would somehow, at least, at least, be at least calmer than this, as it is now, but it is good that these two exchanges took place, about international affairs, in particular about this game, we allow, we do not allow, but we do not allow, then we allow, but if we allow, then we will not say, and if we say, then we do not know when , this is what this permission looks like for... high-precision strikes on the territory of russia,

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one such die-hard dnipro fan, why are we talking about it like this, because most of these prisoners have been there since the 22nd year. in this to the terrible russian captivity, which rather resembles the torture camps or concentration camps of the nkvd, the nkvd. there are also representatives of the international legion and special operations forces and 38 national guardsmen. next, volodymyr aryev, people's deputy of ukraine, will be on our air. mr. volodymyr, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. look, every time something new comes out with these gun stories. now stoltenberg, it is easy for him to speak, of course, he is leaving his post in october and... his tongue is now completely loose with his recent statement that nato could have armed ukraine even before the full-scale invasion, and then this would not have happened, because if they had given more weapons, more equipment, it would have prevented the war, now it is necessary to give everything to start

the war like this, but obviously, well, they listen to him, but they continue to do their own thing. this, this, we will give it, we will not give it, today we will give permission, tomorrow we will not give it... we will give it here, but we will not attack ourselves, let us storm shadow, but we will not tell you about it, wait a little longer, and for a statement we were still waiting on wednesday, then they said that they would announce on friday, they did not announce that it is happening, why does such a game go on for so long, because even experts, the military from america say that this is all in putin's hands, then it is a burden, actually, there is only one question here, and the west does not really understand what will happen next with... in particular, with military operations, because no one has understood the decision of the authorities, in particular zelenskyi, to replace the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, and it is clear that the west, anyway, has never been very

decisive, and there are no solutions now, no now cherchelev and even margaret thatcher ibl. approach is not foreseen now, but the misunderstanding of ukraine's plans, in principle, it only deepens this, not indecision, deepens the indecision of the west regarding the adoption of certain decisions regarding the use of their weapons, and in particular even the last... visit of the secretary of state of the united states and of her majesty's minister of foreign affairs to zelenskyi, as far as i know, it was about the fact that ukraine was persistently asked by zelenskyi to provide a plan,

a realistic plan of actions that would lead to a change in the situation and victory in the war. as you can give this plan, look, you are on the yalton strategy, that’s yesterday, we didn’t say that, it was president zelensky himself who said that the plan for victory, and this is every point, he said so, every point will depend on biden’s decision, well, how is it possible to submit this plan now, if it is not written, because there are no solutions, there are no points from every decision of biden, there is a kind of closed circle of exits, not quite. yes, because in fact, it is about tactical actions on the battlefield, and really everything depends on the availability of weapons, but on the goals, what realistic goals should ukraine set before itself, well then we just need

to say in the person of the country's leadership that we can achieve this, this and that, but for this we need such and such things, that is, we don't need to paint with broad ... strokes of power and indomitability , we must finally honestly tell the citizens of ukraine and our partners what we can achieve with our resources, ah, which we have at the moment this and that, on the condition of providing such and such resources, and this and that realistic the plan that ours are waiting for western partners. in this case, well, we ourselves understand that the following stories about... will not be accepted, therefore, at this stage, no one takes them seriously anymore, all these things are interconnected, and the ukrainian leadership must also clearly say,

what they are ready to achieve, and the event should accordingly say how many weapons and what the rules of use are. is ready to provide, that is , it is a two-way movement, it is simply necessary to finally come to the real and the real state of affairs and proceed not from... some ideological moments, but also from the fact that it is possible was, ukraine retained its armed forces and became one of the strongest states in the world militarily, having fought off this aggression. mr. volodymyr, parallel to the story about what will be allowed and what will be given, there are stories about various peace plans and agreements, about the fact that the next peace summit should be held in india. that india should be a mediator, now the leader of the social democrats faction in germany says that

a contact group must be created urgently for negotiations between ukraine and the russian federation, and china, india, turkey and brazil should be there, in fact we have the global south, why have these conversations become more active now, because we are already talking about it more and more often, and not from the point of view, let's see. should a survey be conducted or something else, already as a fait accompli? the situation in the western world is changing very much, it is always changing and a large number of protracted war with unclear prospects, it affects the population of these countries, our partners very much, not only that, russia allocates billions of dollars to wage a hybrid war. affecting the mind, on the position of the citizens of the countries that are

our partners today, because there the citizens of the countries respectively in their positions and elections influence the positions of their governments, unfortunately, ukraine does not oppose this, and here even we are not the ones who lose war, we currently have informational, hybrid wars of russia on... partners in terms of information countermeasures, we can count on a technical defeat due to non-appearance, so in this case it is clear that these things, they influence, and possible political configurations encourage the search for some contact points these are configurations in order to create such a mediation structure in a certain way between russia and ukraine, but... all wars sooner or

later end in negotiations, here now it is a very important moment for ukraine to do everything possible to reach even these mediated negotiations, there through intermediaries, through contact groups, with a very strong position, and for this we are returning to the issue that we discussed, how many weapons will be provided to us and what is the plan of our... nearest actions , a realistic plan will provide ukraine to our partners, well, you see that there are two processes taking place, they explained to us that it is good if they have a common denominator, the main communist of china will now go to putin, but he hides the fact that putin presides over brics, as if by these questions, but we understand what will be discussed, including a conversation along the lines of beijing, moscow and the russian-ukrainian war. moreover, on the eve of this visit by the chinese. once again , the ministry of foreign affairs responded to zelensky's criticism, they say, what do you want from us, the peace initiatives

of china and brazil received a positive reaction from more than 110 countries of the world, and that they will now compete with the number of these, the signatories of the geneva conference, the first peace conference, on which so much effort and money and time were invested, and this is how this drag-and-drop looks now. blankets, according to which formula will we be reconciled? roman, but in fact, the issue here is no longer in ukraine, the issue is in the confrontation between beijing and washington, because beijing, in recent years, it has been trying to become the second pole in the world, that is, to return the bipolar world, and before this pole was the soviet union, now it is already there will be china, therefore, in this case, ukraine is simply, unfortunately, cynically enough to become one of such

bargaining chips for china in order to try to unite, again, one of the reasons to unite under its wing a certain the number of countries in the world, so in this case it is already a rivalry without us and without ours, well , actually it turns out that we have violated this principle of none of the decisions about... ukraine without ukraine, that is, now they are trying to play with some formula, and then the question arises, how many times have we guaranteed zelenskyi? says that there will be russians. november is almost here, it’s about two months away, and at that second summit, with 100% participation of russia, there will be a peace formula, and this peace formula, which is being prepared for the fall, will already be modified from this zelenskyi formula, do you have something the deputy corps knows, something was said to you, at least from

the profile committee, you know something, i am not ready to comment on all these things that zelensky says and he actually has enough of such external political forces, which can often be characterized as the behavior of an elephant on a bench in a tableware store, so in this case we must be aware that, first of all, no one will share any information with the deputy corps, all decisions are made by... and yermak alone, they have built such a vertical, where there are no advisers, but there are executors, that is, they, even along the line of the ministry of foreign affairs, along all these lines, they were, they formed a vertical of loyal people, but then they will have to be asked as reasonable, and this is precisely where the biggest

problem will be, but what about what about ukraine or without ukraine without... the country, that is why it is necessary to form our diplomatic structure in its entirety and not only the diplomatic structure, at all levels our foreign relations must be formed from loyal people and intelligent people, and then it will be possible, as before to crush all possible attempts to solve something instead of ukraine, at least until 2019 it was successful. thank you. mr. volodymyr, people's deputy of ukraine volodymyr aryev was with us, we talked about international affairs, in a few minutes we will return to our aiter and about the economic there will be a conversation with oleg benzin in our country, wait, especially since the new budget has been invented, it is so interesting, be sure to be with espresso, the new season is with you,

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are back as promised and ask you to donate to the drones and the slaves. this is what the three ukrainian units on the eastern front need most now. in the meantime, oleg penzyn, an economist and a member of the economic discussion club, is in touch with us. mr. oleg, glory to ukraine, we congratulate you. heroes, i also congratulate you very sincerely. you know what, we looked at the news that we will have a new budget, it will be obvious, that there is already a concept for it, just something it doesn't seem to match, some kind of new accounting, obviously, because - they match, yes, actually, the numbers don't match, a little bit , the expenses and... incomes almost double don't match, how can such a budget exist at all, because it's about 2 trillion hryvnias, these are revenues, and expenditures are expected at the level of

uah 3.6 trillion. well, wait, we have been living with you in such conditions for the third year already. and what goes far, look, the 24th year, and here is the current one, in which you and i... we live with you and i, with incomes of 1.7 trillion, actual expenses of 3.3, and when we talk about the difference with you, it is in fact, the same units that are being established for next year, at the same time, it must be clearly understood that the money for security and defense, i.e., the 1.7 trillion that i mentioned, is catastrophically insufficient, it is necessary to immediately look for half a trillion additional funds, because ... it seems that our government thought something that the war would end in the second half of this year and they did not foresee additional funds, although i understand that there are other reasons,

but in any case we must understand that when we take 1.7 with you, if we add half a trillion to it, which are not enough, then actually these 1,2,2, which are expected to be spent on security and defense next year, so we have such a picture. which actually fully reflects the features of the budget of the 25th year, there is also a deficit of 1.6 trillion, and when we carefully look at this budget, there are a lot of other extremely unpleasant things, which we talked about in part on the air with you , it was also clear in the budget declaration adopted there two months ago, but it is one thing to hear it in... the budget declaration, and another thing to look at the numbers, that is, for what i mean, the whole social bloc, it is essentially frozen, and for the main positions, education,

health care, social benefits, a significant decrease in expenditures is planned for the next year, than in the 24th year, well, that is , in general, the social bloc there is 60 billion less than this year it is planned to spend, by the way, the minimum wage and minimum wage will remain unchanged for next year, despite the fact that inflation is set at 10%, so the figures that the government announced to us today and what it is going to do with verkhovna rada for approval, i have on referring to the draft budget, it, in my opinion , has many more problematic things than a simple discrepancy between income and expenditure. and in this case, mr. oleg, you, you yourself even mentioned this example of the maximum kind of infantile inadequacy, with stubbornness two days in a row shmyhal, the prime minister

explained that they are not like that. budgets are drawn up, and that’s right, the international monetary fund decided that on august 30 the war will end, from september 1 there is no need to pay military personnel and other salaries, they can be cut, and to what extent, well, how adequate is this the project from the government, the budget for the 25th year, if we are now at this point of complete inadequacy, and the society is talking about the wartime economy, well... very infantile, i found a good word so as not to say bad words, it's okay, look, er, the government proposed an increase in taxes by 120 billion, after all the negotiations there were 30 left, and even this did not find a majority of votes in the parliament, er, the idea is to find 220-230 billion

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year we expect from them 30. prices for next year, when we will carefully look at the rate that is offered, which is the average annual rate of uah 45 per dollar, let me remind you, the average annual rate is uah 45 per dollar, that is, at the end in the 25th year, the exchange rate will be somewhere under 48, er, so actually the volume of the deficit that we drew at that rate is 34-35 billion dollars, of which... er, according to the recognition of the minister of finance, it is still unclear how to get minimum 12. there is a huge issue with americans because there it must be understood that their part of the macro-financial assistance that we expect will be very strongly politically dependent on the results of the month of november, i.e. even the numbers we are talking about with you now, even this freezing of social standards, even this reduction in spending on social

needs. for education, for health care, and all the same reduction, these numbers, they are not 100% guaranteed financed, because , well, so far there is no understanding of where to get 1.6 trillion uah of borrowing on foreign markets , well, that is, on today's moment is the europeans with the ukraine and facility program, there are direct agreements, but at least 12 billion is still up in the air, so... it is necessary to clearly distinguish between what we will see submitted to the parliament and what the money will actually be used for, i.e. it is necessary to understand that the income part is still not emerging at all, at least in the social part, and the fact that there will be a war next year, i think that probably does not cause any unexpected expectations in anyone, it will be so, and the government unequivocally.