sports, two hours in the company of favorite presenters, presenters who have become like-minded to many, as well as distinguished guests of the studio, events of the day in two hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for intelligent and caring people, in the evening at espresso. we return to eter and actually discussed the district of kharkiv, ne myshlyanskyi district, 25 victims, three of them children, these are the consequences of the attack on kharkiv, on many... high-rise residential buildings, and this is only one of the strikes, because during the last hour, the russians simply began to attack there very strongly reset, this is the first footage we actually receive, and there are still footage of how literally in the same place, in the same area, just less than an hour before the russian strike , a delegation from the usa was leaving, it can be seen that it is our partners who are helping here are these shots and that 's it. was it intelligence and they wanted

to achieve this result, or did they just hit high-rise buildings in a residential area, a sleeping area, no military facilities, it's so simple for information, well, in the next news release, colleagues will tell more, we in the meantime, we will communicate with the professor of manhattan university, ihor eisenberg , we are in touch, mr. ihor, glory to ukraine, thank you for joining, i lead, glory, greetings to you, friends, greetings to all. let's start right away with the fact that there will be no more debates, as far as we understand, something did not like at least for trump, for trump, trump did not like it, he said that he will not be in the next round, but there are already some results, reuters says that the result there is in garis + 5% compared to trump, that is, is it, as you think, or is it a direct result of the very extremes of these debates? well yeah, there won't be any more debates because

trump said he won the debates, absolutely convincingly, he doesn't need any more, well about the polls, look, roytos is referring to the national polling, indeed in the recent national polling, that it was even before debates, haris came out ahead, but in general national polls, i would not pay much attention to them, because the system of elections in the united... states is so very specific, elections are held separately in in each state, and therefore you have to look at the polls in seven key states, which in america are called swing states, that is pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, georgia, north carolina, arizona and nevada, here in these seven states the votes of only a few tens of thousands of voters, yes just as, by the way, the fate of the presidential elections will be decided in the 20th and 16th years. mr. igor, what are the moods there? because we paid

attention to the topic of the russian-ukrainian war, and candidate haris just, in particular, very clearly gave a message for americans in ukraine of ukrainian origin, as well as to americans of polish origin, about what is now the target of putin's attack and what will happen next, and it is clear that in this case it was a direct appeal to these voters, how influential they are in these seven states, look, we live in the state of pennsylvania, this is one of the key states, almost 800,000 americans of polish origin live there, and by the way, almost 200,000 americans of ukrainian origin, and there are just as many americans of polish origin, and in wisconsin, in michigan, there are fewer ukrainians , but there are natives from other countries of central and eastern europe, for example, there are americans of lithuanian origin.

and so on, and of course the fact that camille harris spoke directly to all of these voters during the debate is very important, because that should be one of the factors that these voters have to take into account when they decide who they will vote, and why else does it matter, usually voters who are eastern european americans there. or of central european origin, they mostly vote republican, they're more conservative people, but that's what's been happening with the republican party in recent years, and what, say, the former vice president of the united states, under president bush jr. digcheney, uh, has openly called for a vote for kamalukharis and not only he, very, very many former, well-known republican politicians called for...

this very thing next to such a call by kameliharis next to the commercials that the support group of kameliharis led by kolish. a democratic american congressman of polish origin. therefore , it is precisely in these states that malinovsky spreads on television that it is about the war in russia, russia's aggression against ukraine, and not the danger that this may spill over into other countries of central europe, this is important, because if , let's say, 40,000 voters in the elections in the 20th year for the elections in the 16th year voted in these states, not the way they voted, in the opposite way, then the elections would have ended differently, clinton could have been president in the 16th year, in the 20th it could become trump is the president, and this year will be about the same, so if you

count almost 800,000 polish-americans in pennsylvania, and the election can be decided by a few tens of thousands of votes, then it is of great importance. we agree. we have less than two minutes left to talk about the 6 billion that may be for ukraine, which may simply disappear, disappear, if congress does not do something just immediately, there are two weeks left, what are the chances that it will be possible to give this money to ukraine in the form of weapons or something , what do we need? well, firstly, the money is definitely not going away because what congress is going to do is up to the house of representatives, the house of representatives. depends, since the republicans have a majority there, on what trump tells them. if trump agrees, then they will simply pass a one-sentence resolution that the administration can use the funds during the next fiscal year. if they do not do this, the administration will announce a large

aid package for all these funds at the end of september. well, help will come in portions later, one portion at a time on the other hand, simply the administration would not want to do this, since it would then be unable to evaluate. current needs of ukraine, it will have to record what exactly will be provided to ukraine, but it is certain that if the congress does not pass a resolution, it is certain that the administration will use these funds, that is, they will not disappear. mr. igor, less than a minute, but just yesterday i just watched a super remix, eating the cats, featuring donald trump, don't eat my cat, or this meme that walks after these debates, is it the same as ivano-frankivsk? an egg for yanukovych? i think that the ivano-frankivsk egg for yanukovych destroyed yanukovych more than these memes circulating the internet about trump. well, well, probably, for some of these voters who do not have stable political beliefs, stable ideological beliefs,

they can contribute to the fact that some of these voters will not vote for trump, will vote for harris, because, unfortunately, the country is very , very polarized. of course, yes, mr. igor, we are very grateful that you were with us on sunday viewers of espresso, professor of manhattan university, ihor eisenberg was with us, and we also say goodbye at this, take care and stay with esresso, i'm oleksandr morshchevka, congratulations, this is espresso. interview, and today we are talking about energy, because russia continues to actively attack the energy infrastructure, and it is clear that such attacks will continue, how to protect objects, how to develop the industry during a major war, we will talk about this with olga kosharna,

an independent expert on nuclear energy and safety, welcome, welcome, madam olya, this was the reporting press conference of the head of the cabinet of ministers, denys shmyhal, who once again emphasized that the winter could be the hardest in the last three years, of course, because of the problem in the energy sector. there was a lot of talk about this last year and this summer, and as we prepare for the heating season, is it possible to say about a clearly developed defense strategy, development strategy, or for now we are again hoping for money from international partners, which... here we go they will provide some additional generators there, they are about to finance additional reconstructions distribution stations, can we now be proud of our steps? unfortunately, time was lost, it's a year and a half, eh, and these

missile combined shelling by shaheds and rockets since march, probably september of this year, they were aimed at destruction. generation, and in this way almost all the capacities of thermal power plants operating on coal were damaged, as you know, dniproges was damaged. well, almost everyone was also affected, and this is a very important power for the work of the combined energy system for balancing, because the consumption electricity does not occur evenly, there are peaks at night, there is a morning peak and an evening peak, and then thermal power plants and hydroelectric plants were connected, and even, for example, last year on the 23rd , hydroelectric plants allowed us to pass

a period without blackouts in december, this is not the season for them , and when the flood was here, unfortunately, the hydroelectric power plants were affected, when they, well, could produce a lot of electricity, but were damaged, what was done? as for ukrenergo facilities, it is our system operator who is responsible for sustainable operation of the unified energy system, which dispatches and gives commands to raise which units of power plants, for example, thermal power plants used to be and so on, nuclear power plants, they work in the base, they are not shunting, that is, they have reached their nominal capacity and must work. even schedule, and when we had a period of outages in the winter of 22nd, 23rd year, then

they offered to use powerful electrical appliances at night, because the stations worked evenly and there was such an imbalance, and it was not enough during the day when offices, enterprises are working and the population is going to work. as for these facilities, ukrenergo is responsible for high-voltage such transformer substations, trunk lines, there are also operators of distribution systems, this is oblenergo, they have other facilities, there are transformers, which, for example, along with nuclear plants, open distribution devices such . in order for the transmission, output of the power of the working power units of the as,

there were and are such second-line transformer substations, which are also ukrenergo, but at a distance. to what extent was it possible to protect all these locations? well, according to the information, how many such substations are there, 200 objects, yes, ukrenergo 60 protected the protection of the second level, but this is only from. i went to these concrete structures, the first level is gabions made of crushed stone with sand, the second level is such concrete structures , figurative, but there is no protection from the fragments of rockets and rockets, from ballistic missiles, and when i hear some underground, something, well, that 's - first, the cost should be estimated, maybe as, in addition, ukrainian energy, thanks. they did such cooperation with our foreign partners, with operators of european systems

a large supply of transformers, transformers, they are also produced slowly, in particular high-voltage ones, and they did, so, for example, the last very powerful attack on august 26, a lot was destroyed, but ... if ukrenergo had not made second-level protection, you mentioned that international partners trusted both the supervisory board and the management of ukrenergo, there were investments, there was technological and technical support, but then why did they fire the head of ukrenergo volodymyr kudrytskyi, in fact, several members of the supervisory board went with them, and international partners still doubted what we had. of corporate governance, comment on this situation, well , first of all, i am monitoring the situation, first of all, such

attempts to release kudrytskyi were made in december 21st, which i do not like, that this is on the eve of the invasion of russia, and it was not only sukorenergo, it was changed, for example, the head of state inspection security, the head of state. in december and january of the 22nd year, that is, she went. some systematic such campaign, and then the ministry issued an order about changing the members of the board, appointing their own people there, but kodrytsky was saved by the us ambassador to ukraine at the time, that is , she came to the minister the next day and

the order was canceled the next day and everything remained, several times... such were the attempts, there were criminal cases were opened, bulletproof vests, we remember, although i remember that i was in kyiv all the time before the withdrawal, and i myself took part there in the search for these bulletproof vests for any means, in your opinion, why were they so radical changeable, there were more attempts to dismiss also the head of ukrhydroenergo, also in november. december 21st , but then the supervisory board, ukrhydroenergo , did not allow it to be done and that's all, the council remained in office, why, because the ministry, well, wants to centralize and manage everything, all companies, since glushchenko, he left

energoatom, he. .. he was vice-president there and became a minister, then it is clear that these personnel policies are there in the energy atom, well, these are all people from galushchenko’s circle, in fact, let’s say, andrii the prick, who was recognized in the 22nd year is already a traitor in ukraine, let me remind you that the usa has been under sanctions since the 20th year, so this is an attempt... to manage financial flows, aid and so on, government purchases, unlike the energy atom, ukrenergo bought everything cheaper on open tenders, that is, there was no corruption margin, and the head of this direction, she was invited to the ministry of defense, because

she showed outstanding results, savings and so on. this was an effort before atomic generation, as far as it is possible today to bet on the future, that nuclear power units will continue to be built, in particular at the khmelnytskyi station, perhaps there are prospects for the chigorynskaya station, a frozen project, it is now being talked about, whether ukraine will really be a nuclear power in the future, i support it. yes, nuclear energy, not now, now is not the time, i want to remind you that the system operator ukrenergo is responsible for the stable functioning of the combined energy systems, in accordance with the law on the electricity market, they prepare a sufficiency report once a year capacity, generating capacity, where

based on the use of computer models, several models, they calculate the necessary generation, all types, how much basic generation is needed, how much is needed for shunting, gas type and so on, the last report, this is , well, open information, there was an international conference on the decentralization of the electric power industry, organized by ukrenergo, the following figures were announced: for 10 years, they see a perspective, a total of 12 gw, of which 3 gw is 300 mw, that is, it is gas-powered and biogas, 4 gw solar power plant, up to 5 gw - wind power plants and 1000 megawatts - these are storage batteries for balancing,

that is, ukrenergo does not see it. new energy blocks in your strategy, and why? well , because now, after 9 gw were destroyed in six months in ukraine, we have no reserves, and we have to go through the winter, and, for example, of the 1 g of gas, gas piston, and other power plants promised to the president by the minister, only 60 megawatts were built before the winter . 60, moreover, and why so, when this figure was announced as promising, it must have been calculated, what can be done before winter, i'm not sure that... it was calculated, because i only see energy propaganda, president zelensky said: "i don't like energy propaganda", but there is energy propaganda, because i see these statements

of reassuring galushchenko, kotina, that's all, in fact, the gas turbine plant, which was presented by the us government in december 23, was installed only in june of this year. 24 mw was instructed by the minister to install it, and this is an illustrative example, that is, in the future , of course, you can count on the construction of new nuclear power plants, as if chegerynska atomic units, but if you are really talking about the fact that it is necessary to quickly, qualitatively and already yesterday, how much it is necessary to bet on solar, wind, hydro, biodiesel for a long time. to what extent can these projects provide the generation needed by ukrainians during the heating season, in particular? well, now i

hope for big ukrainian business, because when they saw what was happening with the loss of 900 mw and when enterprises stopped due to power outages, they started to ensure the energy security of their... factories and build gas pistons, gas turbines, solar, for example, next to me, with my house, the epicenter, they, these roofs are all solar, and solar power plants in the climatic conditions of ukraine, they do not work almost in winter, there is some snow there it is necessary to clean there and so on, this is firstly, secondly, uh, i think that to adopt... for example, to adopt the energy strategy of ukraine until the 50th year, in april of the 23rd year, this is madness, because we do not know, energy, it is calculated on

the basis of economic forecasts, we do not know what will be the structure of the economy, we have lost an energy-intensive metallurgical enterprise, there are some, we have lost the population, large consumers, we have lost a population of 7 million, therefore... such a big strategy should be adopted after victory, in my opinion, and now we have a tactical tactical objectives, this autumn winter period and the next will also be difficult, and without energy pr, i would like to pay special attention to the magate mission and the head of magate, rafael grossi, who on the one hand. criticizes many ukrainians, saying, why is he going to zaporizhia? nuclear power plant, he communicates with muscovites, he also went to kurdistan, and where

are the results, why does the zaporizhia nuclear power plant continue to be under occupation, various sabotages continue, which, in fact, the people of nikopol, who see these sabotages in essence through a large meadow, so to speak, and... the cooling tower was on fire recently, well, some say that if there was no magat mission it would have been even worse, please evaluate what work was done during these years of the great war, full-scale invasion by the head of the mgt and experts, analysts, representatives of the mission? well, first of all, i think that the presence of the magate mission in zas is useful, because we lost sources of information, well , maybe some of the ... services have sources of information from the au, but for example, i had a lot of personal contacts, and all these personnel left for the controlled territory, it is

firstly, secondly, worse, they are as independent observers, it is clear that the mandate of magate does not foresee, for example, what kind of requirements to the occupying administration, that they some technical solutions. but no but they write messages that the international nuclear community trusts, because we blame russia, russia blames us, and when the mission appeared, and now for the last year , i was surprised that they began to write more such frank reports, for example , that they started the cut...

there is an inspector for the accounting and control of nuclear materials, because, you know, it was created to monitor the implementation of the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, and the accounting and control of nuclear materials is the main function, and from employees of the authority only people who are responsible for nuclear accounting and control, they have such positions as inspectors, others are experts, from nuclear without... from traditional security, from operational security and so on, he cannot say that this attack was carried out by russia, therefore that russia recently wrote in its notes, at the invitation of the russian side, the mission of the magathe and that tat, that is, as soon as they write the truth,

they will not be there anymore. invited to the zas is the second moment, now we do not have a head of permanent representation at international organizations in vienna since november 23rd, and when the kursk military operation began, the russians, well, they started provocations, writing notes, for example, on august 9, a note was registered in which it was written: that we found fragments of rockets on the kurs industrial complex, followed by the phrase: facts of direct shelling of kurchatov, kurskas, energy structures the course is not fixed, then on august 11 a fire in grodyrna with accusations from ukraine that two drones were hit

while the award. there are means of radio-electronic warfare, there are means of observing walls that require power supply, and the fire was due to the fact that there are reliable sources from zaporizhzhya reported a generator with a reserve of fuel, that's why such a powerful fire was spectacular with smoke so black there and that's it, there were no nuclear radioactive materials there 2 km from the power units. that is, there was no danger of nuclear radiation, but this is as part of the preparation of an informational statement to accuse ukraine that we intend to buy the course of the cop, and by the way, unfortunately, there are also our ukrainian political scientists, political technologists who comment on all issues, they conspiracy theories began to develop there, what should be bought in order to

change to... with the au, or something else, but we, unlike russia, we adhere to international obligations, and to, for example, my native military, and i know how difficult it is to adhere to the geneva conventions on the treatment of prisoners of war, and it is a risk to life when you take them out of the front line, i.e. the purpose of the kursk operation, in my opinion, is completely different, no one... is going to fire at the russians there again, they met in person all august, the head of the russian post-revolutionary unit ulyanov met with the money and persuaded them to go to kursk , he arrived, they insisted that he admitted that this was the result of the shelling of kursks by the ukrainian armed forces, but he also did not say anything, that is, magate's work was essentially

enough. important is not just declarative, as many said at the beginning, but these are really useful steps, as it is now really timely according to the announcement of energoatom that magate will expand the representation of its monitoring missions at ukrainian infrastructure facilities that have an impact on the safety of nuclear power plants. i think it will be good, especially when there are more mass attacks like this, unfortunately continue. well, for example, why did such a proposal from the ukrainian side arise, because on the 26th they were on the verge of a radiation accident, why? when, for example, something hits a transformer near the as, an open distribution device near the as, the emergency protection system stops the regular power units, the chain reaction and safety stop.