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news time on the espresso tv channel. kateryna shiropoyas works in the studio. the special committee of the verkhovna rada approved the draft law on raising taxes before the repeated first reading. earlier. the document could not be adopted during the hearing in the parliament hall, the text of the draft law remained almost unchanged, people's deputy yaroslav zaliznyak reported. so, in particular, the authors propose to increase military levy up to 5%, increase in taxes on the first and second groups of fop and 50% tax on bank profits. these norms can bring an additional uah 58 billion to the budget this year. the draft law is unlikely to be adopted in time. in
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general until october, so its implementation will take place retrospectively, - noted zheliznyak. 14 injured people were hospitalized as a result of yesterday's russian shelling of kharkiv with mortars, among them two children, one in serious condition, a 70-year-old man also in intensive care, others injured are treated at home. a total of 43 people were injured, one woman died - he said. oleg sinygubov of the regional military administration. the russians did not attack the myshlyansky district yesterday. one of the aerial bombs hit the 10th floor of a high-rise building. the fire was extinguished in the evening. 22 apartment buildings were damaged. for the second day, rescuers are putting out a fire in the lyman forestry in donetsk region. the fire has already spread through about 240 hectares of forest. pyrotechnics examine the paths of equipment entrances to.
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occupation centers. with the help of a drone, specialists constantly are monitoring the situation near populated areas, emergency workers are on duty to prevent the fire from spreading, the state emergency service reported . let me remind you that the forest caught fire as a result of the shelling of the city of liman by the russians. due to a strong gusty wind, the fire spread deep into the forest and hundreds of meters. they spread fakes about the ukrainian government and... its western partners. the sbi completed the investigation into treason of the members of the criminal organization, which included people's deputies and the ex-prosecutor. currently, the defense side is familiarizing itself with business the criminal organization was kidnapped in november 2023. its members included current and former people's deputies, an assistant to one of them, as well as an ex-prosecutor. according to the media, it is about oleksandr dubinskyi and andrii derkacha in particular.
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at the behest of the russian special services, they organized measures to discredit the image of ukraine in order to worsen relations with the usa and complicate accession to the eu. participants face imprisonment for up to 15 years with confiscation of property. the organization had a clear hierarchical structure and had a detailed division of duties. according to preliminary estimates, the russian special services spent at least 10 million us dollars on this organization. the money was transferred to ukraine through the assistant of the former people's deputy. people's deputies have repeatedly traveled to russia to meet with their curators. collaborated with the enemy for money. the security service announced the detention of an agent of the russian special services in odesa. according to the investigation materials, the 63-year-old local resident was preparing coordinates for new attacks. the man scouted the bases of the national rage police brigade, as well as locations.
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deployments of mobile air defense fire groups. to do this, he went around the city, where he secretly photographed military objects. he sent the data to the russians via e-mail. the agent is in custody, he is threatened. life imprisonment. in the future, warsaw will begin to finance the purchase of ammunition for the armed forces through the czech initiative. polish foreign minister radoslav sikorsky said this in an interview with european pravda. he explained that poland made a political decision to allocate 50 million euros this year and another 50 million next year. but there are temporary formal obstacles associated with the state agency of the strategist. reserves sikorsky emphasized that his ministry has done its part and hopes that colleagues from other departments will also do everything. ukrzaliznytsia made changes to the train schedule due to the devastating floods in europe.
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yes, the flight from kyiv to vienna will run only to budapest and in the opposite direction. the chop-vienna flight will also have a final stop in the hungarian capital. prague-peremeschel and... back will depart from the original stations according to the schedule, and the flooded border section will be covered by buses. the prague chop flight will make a detour and arrive in ukraine two hours later. the storm left 86 settlements in eight regions of ukraine without electricity. this was reported to ukrenergo. in particular, in kyiv, chernihiv, khmelnytskyi and odesa. due to hostilities, some of the population is without electricity. in donetsk, dnipropetrovsk, kherson, kharkiv, sumy regions. energy experts are already repairing the damage and are calling for economical consumption of electricity. and we urge you to join the collection for our defenders. we need funds for drones and
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a charging station for the reconnaissance of the third regiment of the ssso, which is destroying the enemy in the area of ​​chasovoy yar in donetsk region. the russians are constantly attacking and trying to capture the city, because it's a pony. the height from which it is easier to shell other settlements. our defenders are holding the defense, but they need your help. soldiers need drones. they will help not only to improve the performance of combat tasks, but also save the lives of our military personnel. so your donation will increase the effectiveness of actions against the enemy. our goal is uah 890,000. so join in, you can now see all the details on your screens. search for love the press and be sure to subscribe, because there are live air broadcasts, all program releases and special projects that can only be seen here, as well as a short video on hot topics in the shorts section, subscribe, comment on your important thoughts to us, and to
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learn more interesting and up-to-date information, stay tuned for updates on our website espresso.tv, as well as on our social networks, i'll say goodbye to you until tomorrow, stay tuned. every week, the saturday political club helps to understand the processes taking place in ukraine and the world. if you want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, watch saturday. politclub every saturday for espresso. get closer to victory together with tssoa asbu. join one of the best special forces in the country. we are expanding and hiring. we invite civilian specialists of various fields. experienced
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commanders will ensure your high-quality training and education. fill out the questionnaire and choose. direction where you can be most effective. we are waiting for you in the team of tssoa asbu. together let's write a story of victory. details on the official pages of the sbu. the politclub program is on the air on expresso tv channel, i am vitaly portnyk, you have already seen our guest of today's program, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019 pavlo klimkin, congratulations, mr. pavle, i am pavlo klimkin in the politclub program, congratulations friends, i i am glad to be with you,
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mr. vitaly, of course we have a lot to talk about, and let's start with this plan for the victory of volodymyr zelenskyi, or will it be different in your opinion from? formulas peace, how do you see it? well, first of all, what is the point of the new plan? it has four +1 points, and we know from the cnn interview. we also know that it's very difficult to expect from biden six weeks before the election, something that he hasn't done in all the previous time, talking to the trumps, schais, this is actually the right story, will the conversation be around the plan, but around the logic, what to do next, and around the strategy 100%. well, why couldn't we wait? elections and talk to the winner, just the winner plan, that's all it is always better to talk for a long time, this is actually
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correct, because after the election, this is the specificity of the american system, everyone starts working very quickly in two ways: the first is to look for personal solutions, and there are already forming such shot lists for teams, that is, both in the trump team and in to the hais team, people already understand what... what specific positions they will hold, but who will be there is more or less clear, and secondly - trump, for example, is going to start right away, he promises at every rally that the third world is not about him, only he can do it somehow work out, and he will do it even before the inauguration, that is, you need to talk before, and haris is a completely different logic, haiis is very cool in matters of domestic politics, she is actually known for knowing a lot of details there and feeling the mood very well, but
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in fact never was not engaged in foreign affairs, and when trump says during the debate that she was almost appointed there as a negotiator with putin and zelensky, i think even farmers from kansas will not believe it, that is, she really, she was always apart from the southern border and mexico is very clearly focused on domestic policy issues, it is great at them... well , this is more important for americans, as far as i understand, in principle. well, who votes in matters of foreign policy? in this election, i actually see one foreign policy issue that will be important in some states that are swinging between republicans and democrats, and that is gas, because there are large enough communities, muslim, and among young democrats, support for the palestinians. sufficiently widespread, it does not mean that it is such a movement with flags and half of the democratic party
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for this, but, but it affects, all other foreign policy issues, well, as tricks show, the last ones i saw, will not affect the results even in the states that fluctuate so-called virgins, including ukraine, it is not it means that ukraine is not important, more precisely our war, but... nevertheless, the election results in the sense that when you come and start voting, you know, it does not affect, even china does not affect, as tricks show, but why then why did trump and harris get so seriously fired up at the debate ukraine? as a rule, applicants discuss what interests the electorate, not what interests them, but no, here the situation is much smaller, who will be the right commander-in-chief, the coolest, who can be trusted? because americans are not interested in foreign policy issues, but if they choose, they trust, and if you
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remember the dynamics of biden's ratings, and you remember well, they are after afghanistan, because for americans, afghanistan, well, okay, the question, but after a real facap took place there with the withdrawal of the americans troops, and when american marines died. it really collapsed biden's ratings and then he was not able to come back, in today's american reality, i'm sorry, biden is synonymous with inflation, and here he can't get out, it's strange, but if you look at the ratings of biden and hyis, hyis, who has never been super engaged there, it seems economy, she has confidence there in economic issues by eight percentage points better than. from biden, why, like that, in fact, biden got,
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well, that is how politics works, and in particular american politics, the tricks that are there, since the polls will be until the end of next week, as a rule, in american conditions, 7-10 days, when you can understand the meaning of the debate, show that, in principle , the haiis on the main issues went well, and the preparations, you well, we saw that as soon as the discussion about the southern borders of emigrants begins, she puts it in there, and then at your rallies, people are running, and trump is really talking about the rallies, not about this. in terms of team preparation. i would, i would really put, well, if not five, then five out minus for sure. well, all the same, do you see any specifics in the very idea of ​​the event, regarding how far it is possible to end the russian-ukrainian war and how to end it? of course, that is, the logic, it is there, it is different from
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the point of view of trump's tactics there, because trump, ... says, let's end the war, and the candidate for vice president vance, he in his program interview with the new york times, in in mid-june, he drew the logic very clearly, and he said: yes, there is a line, for us and for american interests, independent a democratic ukraine is absolutely critical, but to recapture the entire territory to the borders of 1991, we do not believe in it... in fact, we do not believe in it, so the line is, we continue to support ukraine and do not troll russia, nato, for now, for a certain perspective, this is roughly the logic in trump's team, khairis will act in a different way, however , the logic of victory is the same: this is an independent
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democratic ukraine, there are problems with the security model, as there will be very difficult discussions. but i actually expect more from kharyts, there are various discussions in her circle, including creative ones, and of course, many people, even in her circle, are having very difficult discussions about the prospects on the battlefield, so in fact, if you look in detail, the tactics are completely different, trump's approach, business, transactional, hares' approach is completely different, here is the result. . do not differ as fundamentally as it seems, from the point of view of the vision, not from the point of view of implementation, but from the point of view of the vision, but here the question is that of the russian okeinism, to what extent it will be ready to accept such a plan. even if the americans will be, but it does not depend on that, it depends on whether the americans will be able to at least partially agree with
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the chinese, with other players, about logic, since putin does not want to play with us. to speak, he wants to speak first of all with the states, and he believes that he is waging war with the states against the west, and the agreement is even a purge, some kind of even a pan-national one between russia and the states, it is now impossible without china, this does not mean that russia already a chinese colony, but the degree of dependence there is sufficient, serious enough, so in order to... to play this geopolitical game , brzezinski once said about chess in china, they like it more rough than that, there is no way without the chinese. by the way, what haris said about the poles of pennsylvania, and it is obvious that they will bet on the diaspora, the one who sympathizes with ukraine, or the one who is against russia,
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the ukrainian diaspora there, the polish diaspora in the states, this is of general importance for the pre-election campaign? and hayes did not so easily remember it, and when there were calls for american help with the republicans, we tried to work with friendly communities, and with poland, and with the baltic states, and with others, especially in such states as pennsylvania, since pennsylvania is one of the three states with the largest number of military orders for weapons that go to ukraine and, accordingly, are produced there. which is then placed in the warehouses of the pentagon, so this is a story that really works, there they even made such a detailed mapping by states and by districts, where what is happening, some communities, and then worked with messages that came through social networks and so further, and i will not say that it worked super, but
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definitely worked, for hayes to win pennsylvania is a very cool story, i believe that if she... wins pennsylvania, then 90% that she will win the presidential election, and the poles can really, well , polish-americans in pennsylvania can change the position in connection with the ukrainian war, not all, but some may, traditionally, by the way, ukrainians who live in states such as pennsylvania, there are a lot of them there, michigan and so on, they vote for trump, they mostly ... sand, but poles, no all but one of them is actually changing their position, so that's an important story, and it 's a very cool piece of hayes, right now... a lot of money and time is being spent on the democratic headquarters to run ads in these states. by
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the way, we have the head of the association of ukrainians in poland myroslav skirka in touch. congratulations, mr. myroslav, good evening, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. well, you saw, such an interesting twist, does it turn out that ukrainians and poles, americans of ukrainian and polish origin, they have in united states. to work together, by the way, when you, mr. pavle, were the minister of foreign affairs, and i was the co-chairman of the ukrainian-polish form of partnership, and then there were some very cool ideas about this, but i was also in chicago just gathering the heads of ukrainian and polish organizations in america in within the framework of this forum, and i will tell you, mr. miroslav, that it seemed to me that in america ukrainians and poles can understand each other better than in poland. can better understand, because from afar, some people can see more what russian is all about threat, although, the way i see the war, as we
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all saw how poland reacted to the war, then in february, and it was not only aid to refugees, but also military aid, it is clear that the poles very clearly, quickly understood, why is the essence of this threat, and it is essentially today in poland - the majority of political forces still support the democrats and biden in this rather clear position of the position of the united states and the relative aid to ukraine on what we saw when this crisis was in the winter, when the united states stopped the supply of weapons to ukraine, as it responded polish politicians, both from the press and from the civil platform, clearly showed that the poles have... quite precisely and clearly outlined where their interest lies, the interest is simply that ukraine should receive these weapons, that ukraine should have something to fight for, and that ukraine should fight this war was winning
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but tell me, can we say that the attitude towards ukrainian migrants is changing now, because we saw, we saw, that the minister of foreign affairs of poland spoke precisely in yaltonskyi to the european strategist that he was in favor of depriving ukrainians of men's social security payments to the european union, but this is one story related to... the war, and there is a story with social surveys, a sociological survey in poland itself, where 95% of poles generally stop social security payments to any category of ukrainian refugees, is it fatigue from the war, or it's just budget fatigue, if you will, what is it, how, how does it coexist with that? i this, i see here the answer to this question in several areas, that is, on the one hand, we really see the third year of the war in poland. watches the war quite closely, but ee today, today, the map shows the picture of refugees in poland - these are no longer people who come by train to przemyśl and carry crying children,
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these are people who live in poland between us, between poles, work here, live here, have already brought their cars from kyiv whether from kharkiv or somewhere from eastern ukraine, sometimes these cars catch the eye, and then many poles ask, well, why should we help these people if they are so well? because those who can be seen well from afar, instead, there is a problem with other people, those who really need help, i want to say that the level of social assistance in poland is minimal, and this is also a problem of information policy in poland, poland does not clearly say at what level, or official information, and the mass media does not report what size we are here, what sizes we are talking about, what amounts money 300 zlotys, when people come and want, declare, have the right to receive, or 800 zlotys per child, which a mother can receive if she has children in poland, and they
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will receive the so-called ukrainian pesel, possibly also the opportunity to use medical assistance or medical care, because people from ukraine, the so-called ukrainian peslel, have such a right, and that 's the end of it all, we don't have any gigantic benefits here, we don't have any gigantic payments. for social assistance to ukrainians, ukrainian refugees will not live in poland, i would say that if they lived, only because of this, they allegedly quickly died of hunger. instead, another thing that is not talked about is that the presence of such a large number of ukrainians in poland, including refugees, caused a significant growth of the polish economy in its time. in march of this year, her organization, the united nations high commissioner for refugees, released a report prepared by her office. firm
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deloitte for their needs, and it was stated there, it was stated there, it was clearly written that the growth of polish gdp last year in connection with the presence of ukrainian refugees was at the level of 1.35%. poland's gdp increased by so much. in the 22nd year, by almost 1%. we observe that poland is getting rich from the fact that there are ukrainians here refugees ukrainian refugees who work here pay. health insurance contributions are paid to the budget, and these are all the profits of the polish state, on the other hand , there is a very interesting thing about this, i noticed it, it was this report that was made public, but the polish media practically did not want to talk about it, polish politicians generally they didn't talk about him, that is , there was such a belief in society, we have
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refugees, that is, we help them. and there is no information, we have refugees, and we also take advantage of this, and this is also our profit in a material sense, but also a demographic perspective, because ukrainian refugees have significantly improved polish demography, that is, we see such, i would say, ambiguous information policy in these matters, so what you said about the issue of men, this is obviously an issue of information or or at all the strategy that we... the polish state with the ukrainian state, that is , to encourage, to stimulate men to return to ukraine, who here in poland are in favor of, there are about 300 thousand men who are of prime age, that is, they could to be called into the ranks of the ukrainian army, but they cannot be evicted from poland, because deportation from poland requires a court decision, or they need to cancel their right to
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stay. this is the result of the legal process, no one in poland will not respect this, nevertheless there is such, i would say, such a conviction that refugees in poland are an expense for poland, expenses, that refugees in poland are refugees in poland means we help them, and if we help them, then maybe it's time to put an end to that, which is fundamentally untrue, but say... sir pavle, in principle, what should we do with this situation with the very problem of the ukrainian citizens of bujin, support the fact that, as mr. myroslav says, they are part of the economy in the countries where they live, try to bring them home already now, that is, to try to integrate them into the ukrainian diaspora so that they are such advocates of ukraine, they have already integrated without us, and
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this is an effort. is not really needed, although, by the way, i have seen the numbers, even 1.5%, although the poles are now very worried because the ukrainians left poland, no, not in a stream, but further, mainly germany, binnilux, austria, in germany, by the way, the number of ukrainians is growing, and when you talk to someone there, of course, not on camera, they all say, let's do more. we are ready to integrate, as this is a balance for german society, ukrainians mentally fit well with german society, and now there are a lot of calls, go to work, in principle we will accommodate everyone, ukrainians, unfortunately, mainly occupy that relatively low layer , workers places, grow very slowly in this. and this
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is really a very big problem, i also saw sociology, the best there was, recently it was done by the maruszewski center, and unfortunately, especially among young poles , the attitude towards ukrainians in general and towards those ukrainians who are in poland may not be radical , but, but it gets worse, there are explanations for whether the poles will be able to make a decision. that assistance in return, well , there may be some soft ones, but those that mr. skirka spoke about are definitely not, i don't see space for this now, not even in the polish politics, and not in any other country of the european union, and lastly, in order for us to start a wide wave there, we need to first understand, and what ukrainians live in, we do not have systematic communication.

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