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similar to the georgian one, because the local ivanishvili talked about something like that. according to interim results, 43% of those who called us believe that this is possible. we'll continue with a new week very soon, bbc now. the shooting near donald trump's golf club, the republicans say about assassinations, the media publishes a photo op. and claim about his connections with ukraine, and what is known and whether the incident will affect trump's pre-election ratings. let's find out in today's edition of the bbc. i am olga polomaryuk. the scandal about the shooting in pennsylvania did not have time to die down, where donald trump was wounded by a bullet in the ear, as the fbi was informed of a new alleged assassination attempt. donald trump was just playing golf at his club in florida. on the field, he was accompanied by security, as usual. it was the guards who noticed the suspicious person. it is noteworthy that
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trump was at least several hundred meters from the place where the stranger was hiding. the man fled from the scene, was caught up in the neighboring district, and a weapon, a kalashnikov assault rifle, two backpacks and a gopro video camera were found in the bush. how the detention took place, here is what is known about it. these shots were taken by motorists, that passed by the place of detention. there are many police officers surrounding the car. the suspect in the attempt to assassinate donald trump was driving a black car, here it is on the side of the road. the former president was playing golf on his own course when several shots rang out. a secret service agent noticed the muzzle of a rifle pointing from the bushes at the edge of the field. they have an agent checking the hole next to the one where the president is, and he noticed. barrel of a rifle sticking out of
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the fence, he immediately opened fire on it person, after which she ran away. at the scene of the incident, the police found an ak-47 type rifle with an optical sight, two backpacks with ceramic tiles and a gopro camera. at this time , we are not sure if he managed to shoot our agents, but we know for sure that our agents opened fire on him. it has only been a few weeks since the last assassination attempt on donald trump. he was shot and wounded at a campaign rally in pennsylvania. he rose to his feet and shouted to the crowd: "fight, fight." after this last assassination attempt, the ex-president made short statement
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shots were fired not far from me, but before the rumors get out of hand, hear this first: i'm fine. vice principal kamala harris was also quick to react. i have been informed of a shooting near former president trump and his estate in florida. i'm glad he's safe. there is no place for violence in america. police have already searched the suspect's former home. the american media called his name. this is 58-year-old rayyan raut. in social networks , he claims that he fought against the russians troops in ukraine. donald trump left his golf course under heavy security hours after the botched attack. it is clear that now questions will arise about how a person with a weapon was able to get so close to the ex-president. but donald trump praised the secret service for its quick response and said they would continue campaigning this week. campaign and also about
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trump's reaction, as after the previous shooting , he did not hesitate to make statements on his own social network tro social immediately after the incident, writing that it was an interesting day and i thanked the secret service, already published a short post today and wrote three times: "fight". so who is zam suspected of? here is this man, ryan wesley rout. he is 58 years old, he is a resident of hawaii and according to law enforcement officers, he has been in trouble with the law eight times, and even... that's not what attracted the attention of journalists. after monitoring his social networks, it turned out that raut supported ukraine in the war against russia, traveled to kyiv, and called himself an unofficial mediator of the ukrainian government. so what did he write and in general, what views did he hold? bbc verifi correspondents analyzed raut's social media posts. our colleagues at cbs spoke to sources who indicated that the suspect's name is ryan routh, and taking that name into consideration the team. bbc verifi started
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monitoring various social networks for accounts with this name and we managed to find several pages. the content of which we then compared to an image showing a man for... being taken to the scene on a highway near donald trump's golf course. and if you look at these pages in social networks, then many conclusions can be drawn. first, let's go back to 2020. on the x network, back then it was still twitter. the man made a post in which he directly addressed donald trump. he said i voted for you in 2016 but we were all very disappointed. and he added that he would be happy if trump left office. it was in 2000. the 20th year, and later , many posts on these pages are dedicated to ukraine, and we know that the person who manages these accounts is involved in recruiting foreign volunteers to ukraine to fight against russia, and last year the new york times quoted him in an article on this topic. bbc
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verifi also saw a video on the youtube channel, in which he again speaks in the ukrainian capital of kyiv about the problems of the west's approach to ukraine, and in particular about the problem of volunteers coming to ukraine. from a series of posts he made on social networks, it can be concluded that the man is disappointed with the approach of the west to ukraine. he says we need to do more. of course, we should be careful with information about this person a person we do not have confirmed details from the authorities themselves, however, based on information received from cbs and research carried out by the bbc verifi department, these are the main motives of these social media accounts. the bbc also managed to find a video of a rally from kyiv, where he called to join the ukrainian army. let's take a look. if there are 500 of us here against 5 billion adults, it's nothing, it's a drop in the ocean. we need 100,000 men to fight. this square should be filled with thousands of people from all countries.
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only 50 countries are represented here, and there are 190 of them in the world. so, obviously, we are missing another 140 countries. this is unacceptable. each civilian citizen from each. country should be here, because it is a stain on the moral compass between good and evil of every person. if you are not here, but on your couch watching tv, then you are doing it wrong. it's about caring, kindness, love, altruism and all the good things in this world. we must show putin that generosity, not cruelty and terrorism, rules the world. this is a crucial moment. we cannot allow interest in this war to wane. we cannot leave ukraine in... a difficult situation, or me in a difficult situation here for the next 10 years, this cannot happen, we have to act better, and this is how journalist gion ptak describes the situation, he recorded an interview in 2022 i am with the americans. i was at
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independence square in kyiv, one of the most famous sights of the capital of ukraine. i was talking to some people right next to that monument with the flags that you saw in the background in that video. so, i was talking to passers-by and one of them heard me say that i was a journalist, so he directly asked me if i could record his message, whether it was an appeal, an address to the world. i didn't see much interest in this, as in the story, because he is just a lonely volunteer sitting in the center of the capital. by that time it had already been six months, four months to be exact, since the beginning of the full-scale obsession, but i thought i would do him a favor because the man was very emotional. he had tears in his eyes, he looked like a weirdo, but as far as i could tell he meant well, so we sat down, he introduced himself, said that he had sold most of his possessions to come to ukraine, he was denied entry into the international legion of ukraine because he was considered too old, by then he
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was well into his 50s, he introduced himself as a recruiter for the international legion, you see that he has this little message with a phone number and then he's in a hurry. somewhere, minute 30 of that clip that you showed is just about all that matters because it was about 6 minutes long and he went on and on about how the world isn't doing enough, countries aren't doing enough, to help ukraine, in general he seems very emotional, he mentioned his personal situation several times, referring to what i said, that he sold most of his possessions, traveled from the world to come to ukraine, and that... the world doing enough to help a country that has been and is still being invaded by russia. words about the ukrainian trail in this story were picked up not only by a number of western media, but also by russian propaganda. at the same time, in a comment for the bbc, the spokesperson of the international legion of the armed forces of ukraine said that raut did not
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had no relation to the unit. but let's talk about everything in a broader context, petro burkovskyi, executive director of the democratic initiatives foundation named after ilko kucharev, joins the broadcast. i congratulate you, thank you for joining, mr. petar, russian propaganda, as rauta does not name, he is also a recruiter of naymantsi, a supporter of the zelenskyi regime, but i wonder if these narratives can work? i think that these narratives will not have a global impact, a global impact on the american elections, although of course trump, we can see, will already use them in two ways: the first is that he will emphasize his divine election in quotation marks, which god protected already from the second castle and thus he is doomed to become the president of the united states, well , no matter how funny it sounds, but for some part of very religious people . it can happen in america, but, well, not everyone votes only based on such parallels there, and secondly,
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of course, trump will continue to talk about the fact that only he, only in case of his election , the world will emerge a third world, america will avoid the third world war, because you see, here the war in ukraine, russia is already starting to affect america, well, these are the words, but you know, the good economic situation has a greater influence on the elections in the united states. inflation is slowing, jobs, the number of jobs in america is growing, well, trump made a very big mistake, two big mistakes in the last days, it's him, what he said in the debate that migrants eat dogs cats and so on in the town i hesitate, and secondly, that he openly called for hatred of a very mega-popular american singer taylor swift. now you know, i'd worry more about her life than donald trump's. even so, in fact, literally a day ago in true social, he wrote that he hates taylor
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swift, but we can see that that post did not get as many views and as many reposts as this last one. and mr. petar, could this incident affect support for ukraine? you know, it's possible that again, it won't be a reason, it could be an excuse for tramps like margery. green yes a well-known congresswoman, congresswoman, sorry, from georgia, who opposes aid to ukraine, who threatens to block everything there, to fire the speaker of the house of representatives, if the budget is passed. right now, as we know, there is a heavy debate in the united states about the budget for next year, and we are talking about an interim budget for six months. and i think the trumpists will try to use this as an excuse to block aid to ukraine for the next six months. but on the other hand, we also know that... there are voters, voters, americans, of ukrainian descent and of polish descent, and in pennsylvania, and in michigan, and
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in wisconsin, and so if aid to ukraine is blocked, it will be counterproductive for trump, so you know, i hope everyone forgets about this scandal, and aid to ukraine will remain, but of course there will be attempts to undermine it, and in the end i will just say that trump, who constantly talks about hatred, he, you know, if you sow the wind, you will reap. the storm that trump is currently reaping in the elections is shame, laughter, mockery and mockery, and in the end it can lead to his defeat, yes, well, i want to go back to, you know, the previous question that you and i talked about, the us election, the us president is less than two months away, and what does this incident say about democracy in the states in general, if that's the case to summarize, you know, he doesn't tell me anything about democracy in the states, with... a spanish philosopher about tegasiv once said that the key to democracy is procedure, and in
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america we see that the courts are in place, law enforcement is in place, and even election commissions in place, and there, regardless whether the governor is a republican or a democrat, but they are trying to count the votes, count the votes correctly, that is, with american democracy, nothing terrible will happen in its foundations, and well , this incident, this second attempted assassination, well, it is not... will affect american democracy, yeah, of course, thank you for the conversation, for the analysis, petro burkovsky, the executive director of the democratic initiatives foundation, was on our air, thank you, and ryan raut was indicted by the court today, he is charged with illegal possession of weapons, and the hearing will continue next monday. if you are interested in more, subscribe to our pages on social networks so as not to miss the most important news, we are also on facebook, instagram, tiktok, youtube, you can watch our episode if you missed it on the air, comment, we are just for . and that's all for today, see you tomorrow, as
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always at 9 o'clock. it's all good. we are him. serviceman of the griga separate unit named after volodymyr griga, platoon of unmanned aviation complexes of the 76th separate battalion of the 102nd separate brigades battles are taking place daily in the zaporozhye direction. collision due to the enemy's constant assault actions, this does not avoid the guleepil direction, which our battalion has been defending for almost 2 years. we are currently in need of 3 times more patching and fire damage from the sky, so we are asking everyone who cares to raise funds for 20 dudei mavic clasic drones and 10 mavic 3ts. yes, the amount is not small, but the life of your siblings and relatives is much more expensive. we really
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hope for your support. donate and share. let's not let it go together. no on a step further and let's speed up the victory together, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, a new week, we are back, the second hour, where khrystyna and i... discuss, discuss the pain, weigh our thoughts, so share our thoughts, what, as they say , people say, maybe that, those topics that are not quite raised in the ukrainian information space, but those topics are strategic, on which the future of our
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country, the future of each of us depends, painful topics, i always say that we often say... on painful topics that are not possible for everyone will like, but i say once again, we need to talk about them, otherwise, as they say, if we don't talk about it, don't discuss it, it will be much worse in the future. i am reminding you today about our survey, it sounds as follows: are pro-russian revenge possible in ukraine, like the one that is happening now, that is already happening. many years in georgia, if you think so, then please take your smartphones or phones, absolutely free, call 0800 211 381, if you think not, 0.800, 211 382, ​​at the end of this hour we let's sum up, and this is actually about this rematch, in georgia, but which, including in
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theory, is also possible in ukraine, which country are you... despite the fact that we see almost every day, how russians of all kinds, in including in ukraine, raise their heads, speak their mind, argue, fight for their right to spread russian peace in ukraine, spread this russian peace, and unfortunately, what was in 2022, today, is no longer there. we really observe how everyone is not lazy, from some non-politicians, to some bloggers, from some cultural figures, to someone else, they talk about , they say what they shouldn't say, because ukraine is at war with russia, but that 's not what they're talking about against the background of the split in society, which they're trying to create now and try
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to deepen, i'm not saying that we are not united, i am not saying that the ukrainian... people are in some kind of critical state and are polarizing, no, we have mutual discussions with each other, but in no way should these discussions be related to the attitude of ukrainians to the war, all must be tangential, because only this is our guarantee victories, and with this, it seems to me, such slight deviations begin, and perhaps this is natural when... the war of such intensity has been going on for the third year, but i would like to talk about the fact that the ukrainians will once again demonstrate the supernatural, when will be able to overcome this challenge as well, which is what we are talking about in the previous part of our program about taxes and changes in taxation, about the need to increase rates, about the fact that those who are in
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honest relations with the state have an agreement with the state, will be forced. pay more, it necessary for us to be able to continue to defend ourselves, but we are also talking about the problem of the fact that there are also those who are outside the field of view of our state, sometimes the state made mistakes in its policy regarding these people, driving them under this plinth, and now they are simply not seen, sometimes these people chose such a strategy of existence for themselves. i will not show anything to the state, i will just reap the spoils in this country as long as i breathe, that too, unfortunately, and unfortunately, again, these people are with us. turn out to be on board the common boat, where everyone has to contribute, well, really their contribution to the victory,
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is it fair, definitely not, and this is what our speakers talked about in the previous part of the program, we need to get these people and these businesses out of the shadows, and such thus, the general tax burden will be felt at all. otherwise, it will not fall to a small group of people who fundamentally chose for themselves the path of honest cooperation with the state and honest coexistence with it and in it. you know, when we talked about it, i thought about our army and really i remembered the text of pavel kazarin, one of the most recent, where he touches on the issue of demobilization, the last press conference of the president and says that... there were many different questions, but this question was never heard. despite the fact that the first draft laws on demobilization in our country began
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to appear at the beginning of 2023. and actually, after the changes in the mobilization rules were approved at the level of the verkhovna rada and they are already being implemented, we were promised a bill on demobilization for those soldiers who are just... on the verge human capabilities, opportunities now remain in doing their work, hard work in this country and in this war. this is not happening, and again the burden of the war falls on a small percentage of people, a small percentage of ukrainians, 15, 10-15, we are talking now about 4 million people who are involved in the defense of our country. these are those who directly feel and bear this war, and there are definitely those who avoid, avoid touching, maybe it is a defense mechanism,
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maybe it is not feeling certain forces to join, but we have to be honest and talking about the fact that there should be certain rotations, where some expire, others should come to replace them, this is... the troops, this applies to volunteers, by the way, if you think that volunteers who have been working since 2014 can now to fully do all that, with the enthusiasm that they did before, then this is a big mistake, these people are also getting tired, just as business is getting tired, which has been trying to be honest with the state for a long time, and which will now, i am afraid, once again rake out more than all the others, but to come into harmony, to balance the situation, this is also... what is needed do, you understand, we have to, or the state should also find this balance, that is , when we talk about the balance, it, if we
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talk about taxes, just now khrystyna mentioned, and this is the top topic of discussions today, in ukrainian social networks, i i think that the same thing is said among the business community, and many people are very indignant. , that indeed, if in the country does not have funds, we must find them somewhere, on the other hand, we must understand that these funds should probably be allocated and given by everyone, and equally, and equally this should apply to absolutely everyone, businesses, officials, judges, some, relatively speaking, there are also actors of this process, that is, anyone, as they say, from a to z. and if the state, if the whole society understands that it must be involved in this, then
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the state must also understand that there is a maximum tax burden, suboptimal tax burden, it will only kill many businesses, many entrepreneurs, many good initiatives that exist in our country. unfortunately, we do not see this dialogue very often, we do not see an understanding of what the state wants and how the state will specifically put its emphasis here, here or there and balance so that both business is good and the state is provided for, and the army was provided, and accordingly all parties, all people, all society were involved in this process, this is the most important thing. and when there is no such balance, there is a possibility of a crack, because always, i'm sorry, it tears where it's thin, well, it's just a rule, you know, i'm afraid of it,
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this tear. the forces that we are asking you about today in our survey can play on it, the consciousness of people who are involved in war and the consciousness of people who avoid this involvement, well , that’s all, these are different universes, we need to get along somehow with each other within the borders of the same country and preferably in some social contracts, what exactly are we talking about, what are we talking about in general, right? one is actually one of the leaders of the state of georgia, and the state of georgia we know that it is in fact one of the first such states in the zero years in which a revolution took place, so in 2003, if i am not mistaken, a revolution took place there, the rose revolution, and it was also called when, in fact, this neo-soviet regime was changed to
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a democratic regime. a state that allegedly demonstrated that it is moving towards the european union, to nato, a state that was attacked by the russian federation in 2008, occupied 20% of the territories, this is abkhazia and this is south ossetia, a state in which for 5 days, the war lasted 5 days, killed in the same way civilians were killed, soldiers were killed, villages were bombed and destroyed. they humiliated, did whatever they wanted, russia did it, putin did it, it was done by the same ruskomir empire, which today is killing our country, killing our people, which occupied up to 20% of our territory as of now, so how long has it been years since 2008, 16, well, 16 years have passed, ivanishvili is such a georgian oligarch who, well, is the de facto head of georgia. who
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, by the way, was the prime minister of this country, well, then he put his own people there people, in fact, the person who leads the party is the georgian dream, and actually what mr. ivanishvili said, he said that it is necessary to find strength and apologize for the fact that in 2008, in fact, the then government, then georgia... zero in the flames of the fire of ossetian sisters and brothers. as soon as the elections on october 26 are over, when those who started the war will be condemned, attention, not russia, but georgia should be condemned for the fact that it started the war, when absolutely everyone guilty of the destruction of the georgian-ossetian brotherhood and coexistence receives the most severe legal punishment answer, we will definitely find the strength to apologize for the fact that, according to the received
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task of treason... the national movement in 2008 enveloped our austin sisters and brothers in a blind fire, that is, it is not russia's fault, putin did not attack georgia, not today, russia receives 20% of the territories, and it turns out to be georgia or the then georgian government, that is , the georgian people, who fought for their independence, and who did not want to be, in fact , like belarus. that is, we can now see what the political course is reaching geopolitical course of georgia. before that , we remember what happened. prior to that , a law on foreign agents was adopted in georgia. which is absolutely analogous to rashishsky. before that, in georgia, we see how the opposition is persecuted, how freedom of speech is de facto curtailed, how mass
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media are de facto closed, what are they doing in georgia de facto? let in hundreds of thousands of russians who fled russia in 2002, to whom the borders were opened, please come to georgia, who today live in georgia, who today are already beginning to dictate to georgians how they should live in their the country but today is not about georgia. we understand that it is up to georgians and the citizens of georgia to make choices about how to live on, how to vote in elections and how to accept such statements, we are talking about ukraine today, because georgia has to some extent gone through a very similar path, as was the case with ukraine. georgia also survived the war, georgia also survived such great political upheavals in its country. and today, when we often talk about some kind of russian revenge.

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