we don't make iphones like apple, then we have to collect taxes where we can collect them, but we definitely have to do it with our heads, so as not to kill the business, not to kill the manufacturers, so that they still remain competitive, because they provide workers places and taxes for our state. mr. kostyantyn, i would like to ask you, actually we understand that tax increases should balance the situation with holes in the budget, should provide the ukrainian army with everything they need and should generally guarantee us that we will be able continue to fight against a powerful aggressor. at the same time, i am reminded of the words of ms. pena pritzker, until recently the special representative of the united states for our recovery, in particular, who noted that before she naturally resigned from that position, she noted that let's think, where and how in... can actually

still raise money before raising taxes for business and the population, they say, we have where, there is where, we just need to, perhaps, look more closely at some opportunities, in your opinion, as of now, how balanced is the approach, it is not balanced, i want to say that ms. pritzker is definitely right, and she is overseas and probably sees less than all the insiders who are in ukraine. which ukrainians have, who understand how these relationships occur in the economy, what are the chains of any industry in our country, and it is definitely not balanced, i agree with you and i agree with mrs. pritker, and i agree with the international monetary foundation that says please take out, take out of the shadows your businesses, today you have a much larger percentage of the shadow economy, which does not pay any taxes at all, which in no way does anything... that is, does not contribute, does not make any

contributions to the state budget and to the armed forces of ukraine in order to fight for our inalienable independence and support all these expenditures on the armed forces of ukraine. of course, this is the task of the government, this is the task of special services in our country in order to identify where we do not pay taxes, where it does not fall into the real statistics of the domestic product, we need to legalize as much as possible of the illegal business that exists. and no one today will be able to convince neither you, nor me, nor the tv viewers that we do not have illegal business or shadow business, it exists, they have been talking about it for many years, not even decades, but the situation for ukraine is critical, if 10 years ago , 20 years ago we did not fight on a full scale, but today we are fighting, we understand that the resources we need are in ukraine, if they exist, then they must definitely be collected, and in this situation... believe me, it would be desirable if the government

and the special services that identify all this together with the tax office, it is very easy for them to identify the days where all these cash flows, where all this shadow economy is now is in the gross domestic product of ukraine, there must be a desire, and thanks to this desire, it is necessary to collect these fruits, so-called, which are low-hanging, that is, they are very easy to collect, they must be collected, and the partners in... western and pritkir correctly say and the international monetary fund to before to raise taxes for white business, for business that today is statistical, that today is transparent, that today is properly managed and submits all audits, both international and ukrainian, then please bring order to the place where there is a tyno economy today, there is a lot of it today, medicinal products , tobacco products, including the same excise taxes on fuel, on the fuel that we import, which is white, and the one that we

produce there today, it is unclear how, it is unclear where, at some, excuse me, semi-petroleum refineries, which are not oil refineries, and there are some mere parodies of the fact that there is fuel, in this situation, of course, the government should not only collect everything from white business, making it uncompetitive, but make sure that all those segments make their contribution business, even... which are in the shadows today. mr. kostyantyn, another important topic is the state budget. september is the month when traditionally the government of ukraine submits such a first version of the draft state budget, when we learn the vision that has a government, which have specialized ministries, and of course, then we will find out what vision the people's deputies of ukraine have. if we talk about the current project of the state...

for the next year 2025, we see there that in fact expenditures are planned at the level of 3.6 billion trillion hryvnias, in particular defense expenditures. of course, that will increase to 2.2 hryvnias, and the budget deficit will actually amount to 20% of gdp there, i.e. 1.5 trillion hryvnias. we see that, in principle, the deputies have questions about this project, we see that there are both positives and negatives, we understand that most likely the vision that exists now will still be revised, because... you need to vote in the first reading, in the second reading, so the question is for you, how to the former people's deputy of ukraine, to what extent is this project, how far are these things that we are seeing now, regarding the draft

budget, effective in terms of strengthening the economy, regarding the movement of our country in various spheres in the coming year. andrei, this is an important document, the budget, as always, all the time important, at the third end of the third year of the war, it is too important, too important, and therefore, of course, i would like, i looked at the projects, and that is, it is the responsibility of the forces that won the elections to reflect 100% or show that they defend the opinion of those voters who brought them to power, in that situation regarding the budget, what would i like to say to you? yes, he is raw, yes, of course, very much incompetent, in basic things he is competent, because today we had 1.7 trillion hryvnias of defense spending in the 23rd year, 500 billion are not enough, now we will look for them and adopt these laws, and that is, the situation will develop when we will also

receive 2.2 hryvnias of defense expenditures in the 23rd year, the same figure is set for the 24th, well, it is not there must be seven five ulbu in order to... redistribute what was in the 23rd year to the 24th year, but you have to look at the rest, because the devil is always, you know, in the little things, and that is, you have to look at the little things , because when we collect a lot of small things, it all grows into a single, monolithic big one a product called the state budget of ukraine for the 24th, 25th year, and in this situation i want to tell you, i really hope that it will be, when it is adopted in both the first and second reading, it will be... more competent, after the second reading and voting, in general , it will be very competent, and in this situation, of course, we also need the advice of the international monetary fund, and we simply need the advice of specialists who understand the economics of our country, ukrainians, because

, well, no you will never be able to do us in your life you know, someone from the ocean or from europe can teach us, they can give us advice, they can help us, but we have to do our work. themselves. mr. konstantin, thank you for your thoughts and analysis. konstantin zhivago, entrepreneur, philanthropist, was on the air. well, we are moving on. we move on and remind you that today we are asking our viewers if a pro-russian revenge similar to gruzynsky is possible in ukraine, because the local ivanishvili talked about something like that. according to interim results, 43% of those who called us, believe that it is possible. in september, there are discounts on relief, 10% in pharmacies, plantain, bam, and savings. when you sleep on an uneven surface, the spine takes the wrong position, because you cannot feel energetic in the morning and productive

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8 to 10 p.m.: a new week, we are back, the second hour, where khrystyna and i discuss, discuss the pain, about let's weigh our opinions, that's how we share opinions, what people are talking about, as they say, maybe those topics that are not quite raised in the ukrainian information space, but those are strategic topics, on which the future of our country depends, the future of each of us, topics painful, i always say that we often talk about painful topics that maybe not everyone will like, but i say again, we need to talk about them, otherwise... as they say, if we don't talk about it, we don't discuss it, then in the future will be much

worse. i remind you today about our survey, it sounds as follows: is a pro-russian revenge possible in ukraine, like the one that is happening now, which has been happening for many years in georgia, if you think so, then please take your smartphones or phones, absolutely free, call 08... 211 381, if you think not, 0.800, 211382, at the end of this hour we will sum up, and actually about this... this rematch in georgia, but which, including in theory, is possible and in ukraine, georgia is a country that was at war with the russian federation, frankly, we are at war with the russian federation, if it is possible for them, then why is it not possible for us, despite the fact that we see almost every day how all kinds of russians including in ukraine, raise their heads,

speak their mind, argue, choose our right... they talk about, they say things that they shouldn't say, because ukraine is at war with russia, but they say it like that against the background of anger. in the society that they are trying to create now and try to deepen, i am not saying that we are not united, i am not saying that the ukrainian people are in some critical state and are polarized, no, we have mutual discussions with each other, but none therefore, these discussions should not concern the attitude of ukrainians to the war, they should all be tangential, because only this is

the guarantee of our victory, and with this we... it seems that little deviations are beginning, perhaps this is natural when the war of such intensity has been going on for the third year, but i would like to talk about the fact that the ukrainians will once again demonstrate the supernatural when they can overcome this challenge as well, which is what we were talking about here in in the previous part of our program, about taxes and about changing taxation, about what needs to be increased... the stakes that those who are in honest relations with the state, who have a contract with the state, will be forced to pay more, this is necessary in order to , so we can continue to defend ourselves, but we are also talking about the problem of the fact that there are also those who are outside the field of view of our state, sometimes the state

made mistakes in its policy regarding these people. having driven them under this plinth, and now they are simply not seen, sometimes these people chose such a strategy of existence for themselves, you know, i will not show anything to the state, i will just mow loot in this country as long as i breathe, this is also a pity there is, and unfortunately, again, these people find themselves overboard in the common boat where everyone has to contribute. well, really your contribution to the victory, or not is it fair, definitely not, and our speakers talked about it in the previous part of the program, we need to get these people and these businesses out of the shadows, and in this way the overall burden of a tax nature will be felt in a completely different way, it will not

fall on a small group of people, who fundamentally chose the path of honest cooperation for themselves. with the state of honest coexistence with it and in it. you know, when we were talking about this, i thought about our army and actually remembered the text of pavel kazarin, one of the most recent, where he touches on the question demobilization, the last press conference of the president and says that there were many different questions, but this question was never heard. despite the fact that the first bills on... demobilization in our country began to appear at the beginning of 2023, and actually after the changes in the mobilization rules were approved at the level of the verkhovna rada and are already being implemented, we were promised a bill about demobilization for those military personnel who are simply at the limit of human

capabilities and currently remain in the performance of their difficult work. works in this country and in this war, this does not happen, and again, the burden of the war falls on a small percentage of people, a small percentage of ukrainians, 15, 10, 15, we are talking now about 4 million people who are involved in the defense of our country, these are those , who directly feel and bear this war, and there are definitely those who avoid, avoid. tactility, maybe it’s a protective mechanism, maybe it’s not feeling certain forces to get involved, but we have to be honest and talk... about the fact that there should be certain rotational ones, where some are exhaling, on they must be replaced by others, this applies to the troops, this applies to volunteers, by the way,

if you think that the volunteers who have been working since 2014 can now fully do all the things, with the same enthusiasm that they did before, then this is a big mistake, these people are also getting tired, just as business is getting tired, which has been trying to be honest with the state for a long time. which will now be, i'm afraid, to rake again, more than all the others, to come to harmony, to balance the situation, this is what needs to be done, you know, we have, or the state should also to find this balance, that is, when we talk about the balance, we are talking about taxes, just now khrystyna mentioned, and this is the top topic of discussions today in ukrainian social networks, i think, among businesses, yes... just about that are talking and many people are very indignant, many people do not like the things that the verkhovna rada of ukraine is proposing today, but here we need to think about this

balance, a balance that will consist, first of all, in the fact that really, if there are no funds in the country, we somewhere we have to find, on the other hand we must understand that these funds should probably be allocated and given by everyone, and equally, and this should apply equally. absolutely everyone, businesses, officials, judges, some, relatively speaking, other actors of this process, that is, anyone, as they say, from a to z, and if the state, if the whole society understands that it must be involved in this, then and the state here must understand that there is a maximum tax burden, a suboptimal tax burden, it will... only kill many businesses, many entrepreneurs, there are many good initiatives that exist in our country, unfortunately, we do not see

this dialogue very often, we do not see an understanding of what the state wants, and how the state will specifically put its emphasis here, here or here and balance so that business was good, and the state was provided, and the army... was provided, and accordingly all parties, all people, all society were involved in this process, this is the most important thing, and when this balance is not there, there is a possibility of a crack , because it always, excuse me, tears where subtly, well, it's just a rule, you know, i 'm afraid of it, this gap, the forces that we are asking you about today in our survey, the consciousness of people who are involved in war and the consciousness of people who avoid it, can play on it involvement, well , this is completely different universes, we need

to somehow get along with each other within the borders of the same country and preferably in some social contracts, what exactly are we talking about, what are we talking about in general, one of the heads of the state of georgia, and the state of georgia we know that... this is actually one of the first such states in the zero years in which a revolution took place, so in 2003, if i'm not mistaken, a revolution took place there, the rose revolution, and it was also called when in fact this neo-soviet the yeti regime was changed to a democratic regime, a state that allegedly demonstrated that it was moving towards the european union, to nato, a state on which the russian federation fell in 2008, occupied 20% of the territories, this is abkhazia and this is south ossetia, a state in which during 5

days, and the war lasted for 5 days, they killed peaceful people, killed soldiers, bombed villages, destroyed, raped, humiliated, did whatever, russia did it, putin did it, the same ruskomirov empire did it, some... today is killing our country, killing our people, which currently occupied up to 20% of our territory. so, how many years have passed since 2008? 16, uh, 16 years have passed. ivanishvili is such an oligarch, georgian, who, well, he is the de facto head of georgia, who, by the way, was the prime minister of this country, well, then he put his people there, in fact. the person who heads the georgian dream party, and actually what mr. ivanishvili said, he said that it is necessary to find strength in oneself and

apologize for the fact that in 2008 the then government, in fact, engulfed georgia in flames fire of ossetian sisters and brothers. as soon as the elections on october 26 are over, when those who started the war will be condemned, attention, not russia, but georgia should be condemned for the fact that it started the war, when absolutely everyone is guilty of the destruction of the georgian-ossetian brotherhood and ... existence the strictest legal answer, we will definitely find the strength to apologize for the fact that, in accordance with the task received , the traitorous national movement in 2008 engulfed our austin sisters and brothers in flames, that is, it is not russia's fault, it was not putin who attacked georgia, today it is not russia that receives 20% of the territories, but it turns out to be georgia or the georgian government at that time, well, that is

, georgians... a people who fought for their independence and who did not want to actually be like belarus two, that is, we see now what the political course is reaching and geopolitical course of georgia, before that we remember what was happening, before that in georgia the law on foreign agents was passed, which is absolutely similar to that of rashis, before that in georgia we... see how the opposition is persecuted, how freedom of speech is de facto curtailed , how they de facto close mass media, how de facto what are they doing in georgia, are they letting hundreds of thousands of russians who fled in 2002, and from russia, whose borders have been opened, please come to georgia, those who live in georgia today, who are already beginning to dictate to georgians how to live in their country

country, but... today is not about georgia. we understand that it is up to georgians and citizens of georgia to make choices about how to live on, how to vote in elections and how to accept such statements. we are talking about ukraine today, because georgia has to some extent gone through a very similar path, as was the case with ukraine. georgia also survived the war. georgia has also experienced such great political upheavals in its country. and today, when we often talk about some kind of revenge by the russian forces, about the fact that there is one, then the second, then the third, a public figure in something russian is starting to protect ukraine, uh, we are starting to talk, listen, and what will happen after that, if, let's say, the war ends, however it ends, we, we don't know how it will end, well, let's say we keep our state , we,

we, of course, we, of course, believe that this will happen, but we perfectly understand that as soon as, relatively speaking, the active hostilities subside, these people will appear in ukraine, who even today, while we are being hit with rockets, ukrainians are being killed at the front, they destroy and level our cities, they occupy them. our territory, there are these people in ukraine who today are publicly ready to defend the russian world, russian language, russian monuments, russian street names, russian business, even in ukraine, russian narratives that say that not everything is so clear-cut , who today are already beginning to accuse the ukrainian military of something, ugh, who set fire to the cars of the military every day in...