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our state, we, of course, we believe that it will be so, but we perfectly understand that as soon as, relatively speaking, the active hostilities subside, these people will appear in ukraine, who even today, during that , how they hit us with rockets, kill ukrainians at the front, destroy them and level them with ease. our cities are occupying our territory, there are these people in ukraine who today are publicly ready to defend the russian world, the russian language, russian monuments, russian street names, russian business even in ukraine, russian narratives that they are talking about the fact that, well, not everything is so clear-cut, who today are already starting to blame the ukrainian military, which sets fire to military cars every day. in the country, by
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the way, today you can also make sure of this by simply going to the internet and reading about those who are blurring the cultural border today and actually justifying, for example, russian music in ukraine or russian culture in ukraine we have repeatedly said in our program, and we need to think about what will happen to ukraine after, uh, and think about it already today, and not... tomorrow, because tomorrow the option that will be, you understand, will be, relatively speaking, a soft hybrid option of russia in ukraine. i just want to say the last thing, we have to understand that russia has not gone anywhere, and it is unlikely that russia will go anywhere. today, russia works effectively in terms of information and culture. today, russia is conducting its expansion. politics on
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many hybrid fronts in ukraine and outside the borders of our country, russia continues to influence the minds of our citizens, and in the end, the ultimate conclusion, the ultimate goal of russia will most likely be the formation of pro-russian, or such light, such, perhaps even to a certain extent, not quite noticeably pro-russian forces, which, let's say, will be similar... to this georgian dream, because the georgian dream , in the first years of its rule, also said that it is for the eu, that it is for nato, that it is against russia, but every year, step by step step by step, we saw how this country, unfortunately, is increasingly falling to the level of such a russian political one satellite, and this is not, and this is not a claim to the georgian people. indeed we respect, we
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respect the citizens of georgia, we know that many georgian citizens are protecting our country today, we know that many georgians live in our country and cheer, support our country now, we know that including many georgians inside georgia are also fighting for their rights and trying to stop this rematch, but the state policy of georgia today, unfortunately, is, well, which in... causes very, very great concern, as in europe, and in general in ukraine, but i always have a question, at what moment does the separation take place, the people, the electorate, so be it, and the government that makes some decisions, well, that is , on the one hand, we see georgians, which georgians are constantly leaving to protests related to the policies of their government. authorities,
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the protests that are related to foreign policy there, again to their country, but this does not in any way receive any conscious reflection in the decisions of this authority, it is as if there is an answer to the question, who is ivanishvili and who are his protégés, these are people who are not influenced by the georgian people in any way, only formally, exclusively on paper, and... in ukraine, such things usually end very badly for the authorities of such a group. we are currently at war with the russian federation, and to be honest, it is very difficult for me to imagine that after the end of this war, one of the ukrainian politicians would come out and say something like: as soon as the elections are over, when those who started the war will be convicted, when absolutely everyone is guilty of destruction. in this case
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of the georgian-ossetian brotherhood, and we, for example, can replace there the russian-ukrainian brotherhood and coexistence receive a stricter legal response, we will definitely find the strength to apologize for the fact that... according to the received task, the traitorous national movement in in 2008 engulfed our ossetian sisters and brothers in flames, that is, no , not even before, this is not even a dialogue between ukraine and russia, it should be a dialogue ukrainians, with ukrainians, with russians, residents of, for example, temporarily occupied territories donetsk-luhansk region, maybe crimea, i don't know, it's hard for me to imagine now, but in the end it's true. allows ukrainians to be inoculated with missiles, and allows catastrophically, because in 2022, in february, it seemed that all this was such a fat spot on relations and looking into the eyes of the russians, but as we can see, no, it allows, and
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many things already seem, you know, normal , like, you are being raped, but already, well, in 2013, when this government came to georgia, then... it was also impossible 11 years have passed to even imagine such and such, in fact, it was absolutely impossible to imagine this, but as we can see, so much time has passed, and what was going, as they say, has finally manifested itself, although most likely this government and those people, they manifested themselves most in 2022, when de facto stopped supporting ukraine, yes. in the war with russia, when in fact the georgian authorities took such a position of sitting on two chairs, and when all these anti-democratic, anti-western, anti-civilization movements began, but now let's talk about why in ukraine, even today, when really
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rockets are flying, when everything seems to be completely clear today, russian and pro-russian voices are getting louder and louder. the voices of what is not so clear, the voices that it is not necessary to cancel, it is not necessary to destroy the russian language in ukraine, because it has always been here and will always be here, and there are actually a lot of such voices, what is the reason for all this? the reason is that we will not even take the times after the restoration of independence, we will take the times from february 24, 22 . we continue to live in half-measures, half-steps, half-prohibitions, semi-cancelling of the russian, that is, as they say, we continue to compromise with evil, to compromise with the russian peace in ukraine,
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and we are still not fully aware of what actions would have to be taken even in the 22nd year in order for the russian... in ukraine, there was not, in general, uh, when we in our past programs, and in particular our past program was so related to russian music in ukraine, remember, we very much talked, we gave a lot of examples of how ukrainians actually pay the budget of the russian federation, listening to the russian music on various international platforms, then this is actually a compromise with evil, if... the ukrainian state does not adopt laws that prohibit the russian world in ukraine, and everything that concerns the russian world is a compromise with this evil. if the ukrainian state today makes it possible for some russian platforms
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or russian music to be sold legally in ukraine, this is a compromise with evil, and such compromises, unfortunately... there are many, many, uh, these are compromises, for example, which concern including there to the law on languages, yes, it is compromises, which are very often voiced by the mayors of some cities, who do not want to rename streets, who do not want to demolish the monuments of some great russian writers there, these are all compromises, ugh, and there are actually a lot of such people inside our country and for such people, precisely such people... will be the focus of russia in the future, russian politicians in ukraine, whether pro-russian, will never now talk about the fact that we will come to terms with putin there, or not, maybe there first first time, at least drive like they went to bow, but they will
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conduct hybrid politics, uh, and one last thing, about politics, by the way, and about compromises. we have deputies from the opposition platform for life, who are still sitting in the parliament, no one deprived them of their mandates, no one prohibited them from... these are the deputies who vote today, these are the deputies who make decisions today, someone has access to state secrets, that is , even here at the level of higher authorities, at the level of the verkhovna rada, we see certain compromises, we see that, unfortunately, those people who were ready to surrender ukraine to the kremlin even before the 22nd year, they are still here for some reason. and they did not even politically answer for their position. perhaps, when the elections are held in our
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countries, then we will talk about political responsibility. but, but no, maybe we won't, maybe there will be those who will vote for these people again. we are talking about compromises with russianness, we will call it that, inside our country. at the same time , we demand uncompromisingness from the side. our, well, let's say so, uncompromisingness from those who is with us from the outside, but every politician, foreign politician and official who voices his visions of resolving the war between russia and ukraine, or at least ending the hot phase, ukrainians have a lot of questions for each such politician, and they see in .. these, so to speak, peace plans, some concessions on our part, maybe it is, maybe
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what olaf scholz has been talking about in recent weeks with his peace plan contains some concessions, perhaps what bilt wrote about and what the ukrainian denied in principle the president, but perhaps this also has some grounds for discussion, and if we are talking about american, currently prominent politicians, then we cannot ignore mr. vance, who voiced disgusting, absolutely disgusting theses for ukraine, and here is the former us secretary of state in the government trump's mike pompeo, during the 20th annual meeting of the eu in kyiv, outlined the essence of his peace plan, it is significantly different from what mr. vance, i suggest listening to the direct speech, it's really interesting. there must be the essence and meaning of victory
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ukraine and europe, and it is also necessary to understand what the defeat of russia means. of course, we are also talking about china and iran, about other theaters of action. of course, in my plan it is about nato, it is about the sovereignty of ukraine over its own, it is necessary to re -enact the crimean declaration, which is very often forgotten, and we did it during the trump administration. everyone has a vision of what to do next? yes, as if they see some signals from moscow and a readiness to speak. i, for example, do not see the signals very well, but less so those this is a slightly different topic. inside our country. we are ready to compromise with russianness in some formats, and
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we expect uncompromisingness from our partners, only money, weapons and support as much as we need it, and it is desirable that they be immediately accepted into nato and into the european union, we also joined and hoped for some preferences from that, forgetting that these are also duties that will be imposed on us. somehow , all this does not fit in my head, although i understand that the average ukrainian can. and here it is probably worth talking to andrii about the general adequacy of our vision and behavior under three years of large-scale invasion and actually 10 years of war with the russian federation, have we not washed our eyes? well, if we're talking about support there and about some plans, well, there are some thoughts here too, actually, and we've said it before, that... the world hasn't quite understood what russia is, uh, and the world isn't quite aware of the how russia
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works, maybe it realizes, maybe it's just that they have a different vision about all this, the world today doesn't quite understand that this is a war not just for territories, that it's a war in general, existential for the existence of ukrainian statehood, for the existence of ukrainianness, for the existence of the armed forces of ukraine. for the existence of our flag, our coat of arms, our history, our language, for the existence in principle of the civilized dimension in which our country is located. and when someone thinks that the issue is the territories, then in my opinion, the issue is not only the territories, the issue is that russia needs to destroy ukraine as much as possible, reduce the population of ukraine, expel the population abroad, expel, yes, expel the population abroad , humiliate,
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disconnect, they have always done it, but now they do it with the help of already certain... military methods, and this story looks so sad, for example, with the provision of the same missiles, so long-range, although in fact it is the same no no not long-range missiles, long-range missiles are those missiles that russia uses, for example, from the tu-95, which fly at 1,500 or 2,000 kilometers, in fact , long-range missiles - it is, for example, iskander k, or iskander m, which hits there for 500-600 km. it is only about 300 km, that is it is also about understanding, understanding that the world also makes certain compromises with evil, but we are talking about the fact that ukraine makes certain compromises with evil and has always made certain compromises with evil, if you remember how many compromises we made during the 90s, zero, 10 years, even
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the last few years, how many constant compromises there were, how many russians there were... in ukraine, as far as we did not understand, the politicians did not want to understand to what extent we allowed this russian influence here, to what extent the world, by the way, allowed russian influence, to what extent all of europe was actually on this russian hook, germany, it is elementary to remember germany, which was actually on the russian hook all this time, but can we be sure that, for example, in the same germany, there are still no politicians who wanted to return conditional the russian hook, right now in, right now in east germany, the former gdr, the political forces are winning there, the alternative for germany, and another political force, the left, it’s called the alliance, sari, i forgot the last name, i’m sorry, for
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example, these political forces , which gain 50%, in fact, of the total electoral picture in east germany, they are ready to... go back to this russian hook again, and yes, if you really buy, you can see many, many, many countries that today are not ready to break their final ties ties with such a concept as russia. we talked a lot last time about this festival and this film russians at war, in fact, by the way, it should still be shown tomorrow, to be honest . according to the latest news, however, not anymore within the framework of the festival, within the framework of some separate event, that is, it is this again, it is about these compromises that the world is ready to tolerate and is ready to build bridges with it, even after everything that russia has done, well, i remember the compromises that did with
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hitler's germany, yes, 37th, 38th, 39th years, yes, these were all, these were all years of compromises, three years of compromises with the absolute evil, decades of compromises with the absolute evil of the soviet union, which was no better than hitler's germany. who also killed millions and millions of people in concentration camps, who destroyed entire nationalities, who destroyed entire nationalities, who resettled people, who destroyed people. and in the same way, i apologize, i was with them, there was a compromise with them, i just mean that we must also understand that the key to saving our country, ourselves, first of all lies in ourselves, that is, we must to understand for ourselves that first of all we have to take care of ourselves, and then someone else, ugh, but of course it is sad for us to
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really watch how, unfortunately, unfortunately, until... the world does not understand what it has today get ukraine and where ukraine should be, in which coordinate system? don't be afraid of russia, don't be afraid of their so-called red button, do n't be afraid that a drone will fly somewhere, ugh, don't be afraid that putin will threaten someone, because if you are so afraid, well, i'm sorry, at such rates the russian army can stand at all somewhere on... near poland, if that is what we are afraid of absolute evil. "the realization that this is absolute evil, or tolerance, which in principle is very, well, let's say this, a feature
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of western civilized societies, tolerance for everything, and, unfortunately, very often misunderstanding that behind white and fluffy can be bloody and toothy, by the way, you mentioned such about the film that you and i discussed last monday, i cannot help quoting, lord forgive me, one of the russian opposition women, bright ones, however, the godmother is also putin’s, if i’m not mistaken, sabchak writes, a russian documentary filmmaker cannot show his film shot from the russian side at the festival with an anti-war message, and a ukrainian documentarian can, as it turns out, it is possible, and this has taken over the entire space, propaganda has been thriving on the ground for a long time. of culture both there and here, no one is ashamed anymore, everyone already understood everything, well , that is, even the most ardent, well, not really
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, it is already ardent, but russian oppositionists will accuse ukraine of propaganda, simply because ukraine shows that , how it actually happens, how successful it is already, let the cultural commentators undertake to analyze, but less so, to defend. people who are obviously cooperating with the russian military and the russian special services, are doing something to whitewash all this shit, well, they, they have that, and it's still not considered something bad in the world, well, that is, trying to see a spoonful of honey in lain's barrel, it really surprises me, surprises among ukrainians and surprises among people who live outside our borders, a different point of view. from their from their vision, but the problem is that this point of view never allows to have other points of view, great and this is for
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confirmation, simply and this is the thesis: the truth always somewhere in the middle, it is not somewhere in the middle, the truth is where the truth is, well, you understand, you don't need to look for a place for it, you should just identify it, if with... is evil, and those who resist evil are obviously well if on the opposite side, well, let's talk frankly and be honest with ourselves and not try to gaslight, probably other people, sometimes i think that i'm being gaslighted by the way, what is gaslighting, it's when you say something is wrong here and you objectively justify it, they tell you, but no, that's all it seems that you are not normal at all, that you think like that and... it seems to me that ukraine and ukrainians are being gaslighted when we really talk about the fact that there is a russian federation, and the only thing missing is that we have to be twisted around the temples, in fact, at the very end, it must
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be clearly said that we need, as citizens of ukraine, to do everything in order not to repeat the fate of georgia, yes, we need to do everything to explain to everyone that ukraine is not a place where... for russian narratives, and ukraine - this is no place for a compromise with a murderer. ukraine - this is no place to talk and hear a murderer. ukraine is a country that should be independent and self-sufficient in all its manifestations, both now and in the future. because, if we allow even the smallest compromises, russia will continue. her hybrid warfare, she has done it and she will do it, she has the money, and unfortunately, as we can see, for the time being, uh, and as long as
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russia exists, we will watch her try culturally and politically, economically, to influence our state in any way, let's be vigilant and let's go let's be united around the fact that ukraine should defeat the russians, both at the front, and ... and andrii smoly and i will try to uncover these very often attractive russian shells every monday so that you are not deceived. we have the results of a vote on whether a pro-russian revenge similar to the georgian one is possible in ukraine, and 43% of those who called us believe that it is quite likely, 57% are more optimistic. there's a lot to think about, i think we 'll do it next monday. we thank you for voting, for being with us in to the live broadcast, khrystyna yatskiv and andrii smoliy, a new week and see you soon, we're holding on, glory to ukraine. usual
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together we will write the story of victory, details on official pages of the sbu. in ukraine, the 14th edition of the news tells about the main thing for this hour. greetings to all espresso viewers. two large electrical substations are burning in sumy. the russians hit the energy infrastructure of the city with ballistic missiles, - announced the mayor of the city oleksandr lysenko. he called on the citizens to stock up on water and, if possible, to charge their gadgets. details.
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