today in the verdict program with serhii rudenko. revenge for one's own failures at the kurshchyna. the russians increased the intensity of shelling of the sumy region with missiles, attack drones and guided air bombs. the regional center is partially... not flooded, what awaits the border region in the future? the long wait for a long-range permit, the meeting between us president biden and british prime minister starmer did not live up to expectations, what prevents removing all red lines regarding ukraine's use of western weapons? preparation for the hellish winter. more than 60 ukrenergo facilities are equipped with steel. does

ukraine have enough strength and capabilities to save its energy industry? glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program. my name is serhiy rudenko, i greet everyone and wish everyone good health. for the next two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and our victory. let's talk about abundance. the difficult situation that is currently developing in sumy oblast, about how the enemy is trying to destroy the ukrainian energy industry, and about how we will prepare for winter and , most importantly, how we will winter in the conditions constant shelling of our energy facilities, we will also recall the situation with long-range weapons and the indecision of our western partners, who are delaying...

the adoption of a decision on giving ukraine the opportunity to strike deep into the russian federation with their weapons. in the first part of our program, our guests will be roman kostenko, colonel of the sbu, people's deputy of ukraine, diplomat oleksandr khara and former minister of energy and fuel, ivan plachkov. in the second part of our program, which starts in an hour, we will have deputy club, deputy studio oleksandr merezhko, rostyslav. and oksana savchuk, we will talk about expected taxes, tax increases from october 1, 2024, about changes that await not only fops and entrepreneurs, but also all of us when paying, including military duty. however, before starting our big conversation, i suggest you watch a video of how ukrainian, ukrainian defenders destroy the enemy with the help of ground drones. in kakadze

, the fighters of the svoboda battalion posted a video of blowing up a russian tank with a powerful seeker mine. brigades of the rubizh national guard, which are fighting in the seversky direction, let's see. friends, during this episode of our broadcast, we are conducting a poll, today we are asking you if you would move to the united states or the european union, if you had the opportunity, yes, no, it's pretty simple on youtube, if you have an opinion, leave it her, please in the comments under the video, if you watch us on tv, take your smart phone and or phone and vote for the numbers if you would move to the us or the eu if you had the chance. 0800 211 381 no

0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free. i have to explain why we are actually conducting such a survey, because... our colleagues from the kyiv international institute of sociology kmis conducted a survey and it turned out that the absolute majority of ukrainians is 79%, even in the case of obtaining citizenship of the united states of america or a country of the european union, would still remain in ukraine. we are also interested in knowing your opinion on whether you would move to the united states of america or the eu if you had the opportunity or not. vote want to present our first guest today is roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence of the verkhovna rada, colonel of the security service of ukraine. mr. colonel, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. good evening, mr. sergey, good evening

to everyone. mr. colonel, today, at night , the russians once again attacked sumy oblast, there was a rocket attack on sumy oblast and they hit sumy itself. on electric generation, on energy facilities, and it is clear that in conditions when the armed forces of ukraine are in kurshchyna in the region neighboring sumy oblast, and it is clear that it is probably worth talking about the prospects of the sumy region in the context of the development of the counteroffensive operation of the armed forces of ukraine in kurshchyna, and especially if the offensive operation... will be russian, do these strikes mean , which are now increasing in the sumy region, that the russians want to turn the sumy region or even the sumy region into this sanitary zone, or are they forcing our soldiers

to return to the territory of ukraine in this way? well, for now , we are just making a sanitary zone in them, there while the initiative is still ours with respect to the russians, of course. they have the same story as throughout ukraine, to attack objects and infrastructures that would not allow our military to be stationed there normally, or to terrorize the local population, which would have a negative attitude towards those of our military, in them in principle, nothing changes, as for the shaheds from kurshchyna, i will say that even before a full-scale, well, not after our invasion of the russian federation, then kurshchyna. it is the main area from where the russians launch their shaheds, where they fly from, and in principle, i thought that this would change, but still they continue, yes, they fly around the collision sites at high altitudes, they go, but still they continue there , well

, then they fly to the territory of our country, well , of course, it is close to sumy oblast, so they strike with them in order to save on expensive missiles there, and... to strike , including on the infrastructure. mr. colonel, the influential edition politico published, published a text about what it seems that the former head of the armed forces of ukraine, valery zaluzhny, opposed the offensive of the ukrainian military in kursk oblast at the time when president zelensky first spoke about it at the beginning of this year and insisted on its implementation. in addition, journalists mention emil and... shkulo, the commander of the 80th airborne assault brigade of ukraine, he was also in zaluzhnyi's position and supported the former head of the armed forces of ukraine, the then head of the army, and he was dismissed from his post in july amid protests high-ranking officers who called for

him to remain in office. oh, was there even a place for such a discussion when zelensky... insisted on the political component and political expediency of such an operation, and a worthy, experienced officer could be against this military operation, given the conditions in which this operation of the armed forces of ukraine was planned, perhaps you know about this, well, look, let's take turns, but don't retaliate. here and now there should be one scheme from the surnames of the president or the commander-in-chief: the war plans approve the war, specifically the war in general, which war is not just battlefields, but war, working with partners, the tasks of the main main strikes there are captures, this is a military-political

matter, it is approved by the supreme commander-in-chief, the actual conduct of the war and the execution of the tasks set by the supreme commander-in-chief is already a matter for the commander-in-chief. below all defense forces, that's how it's right, this whole story that was imposed from the very beginning, don't interfere with us, don't hinder us, we'll do everything, it's a little bit wrong and... a little bit like that, it was manipulative, i say it again, there is no speaking of surnames, this is generally how the war should go, then it is a question of experience, who knows, who does not know, who makes which decisions, but people in positions have, it should work like this, there is no other way, sometimes targets they are illogical from a military point of view, when you only have a military component and you only see a military unit, they can bring. less useful than it will be a direction that is less, let's say, successful from

a military point of view, but more successful from a military-political point of view and will bring you have higher dividends, this is a fact, this is a strategy, and it must be approved, i say it again, with a bet, this is the first, without surnames, the other thing is about valery fedorovich, was he against it or not, look, valery fedorovich could have been there against history . there in 2024, i myself took part in many operations, and uh, you know, here it is clearly possible to say one of the - expressed nothing, there is mine today, ee there refutes mine yesterday, and this is how it is in the military business, today you have to be for, you can be against, because you have one circumstances, and tomorrow you yourself will... insist on exactly what you spoke against yesterday, because you have new

forces, you have a different front, the enemy is attacking you, you need to seize the initiative, so now i just i say my guesses that zaluzhny could have been against it, substantiated at the time when he spoke this decision at the beginning of the 24th year, and syrsky there and who is supreme there, who there insisted on this operation, i do not know, as a matter of fact, we say they... couldn't have been right because the circumstances were different at the time, we have that understand that the situation in the war is changing very quickly, and at the moment this operation has positive consequences, political, let's say, international and military from the point of view, but if it is considered piecemeal, that is why i do not think that it is possible here that the politicians there wanted to highlight that we were wrong to advance and beat the enemy, i don't think so, after the start of the

kursk ... oleg kalashnikov, the press officer of the 26th artillery brigade named after general khorunzhy roman dashkevich, told the air of our tv channel, let's listen to what kalashnikov said . the use of cabbies is quite a significant number there , they could even use 10-20 cabbies, so today these cases are rare in comparison, and this certainly helps us maintain our defense and of course saves the lives of our defenders. in addition, president zelenskyi said that the kurakhiv direction is currently the most difficult in terms of the number of enemy attacks. but the kurdish operation of the ukrainian armed forces continues according to plan, he emphasized the importance of providing the army

with drones, we will also listen to the supreme commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine. there have already been more than a hundred battles since the beginning of this age. most of all , the kurakhiv direction, pokrovsky. we defend the position separately and in detail, regarding the kurdish operation, and every day we act exactly as predicted, we always work so that ukraine had enough... strength and means for the production and supply of drones. providing drones is not just a tactical thing, it is a strategic priority. i thank everyone who works with this. mr. colonel, how do you currently assess the situation in donetsk region, did the armed forces of ukraine, after starting the operation in kurshchyna, manage to withdraw forces and means of influence in the kurdish direction from pokrovsk. kurakhiv direction, well, what forces were

pulled back and in general we see that they also pulled everything equally from secondary directions forces and means from kramatorsk, something there from the southern direction, and but the enemy continues some of his creeping actions there, and we understand that to continue them he needs reserves, precisely these reserves they were forced not all, but some part instead of directing . east, they still send them there in the kurdish direction, because we see that they have also started to take active actions there, in particular , they are hitting our left flank from the side there, from the side of the glukhiv district. we made our counteroffensive there again, took control crossings, there are maneuvers going on, a war of maneuvers, we call it that, there is no fixed line of defense, there everyone tries to take a position that would allow the enemy to be put in a worse position, now we see these maneuvers on your map, that the enemy is there broke through to lyubimovka there, but we

from the side of the deaf there took control of it there from the point of view of 7 km there, even with mortars... and that was by breaking this wedge, well , almost there into, well, this territory between the seym river and our border into two parts, now there are heavy battles, but there we, let's say so, we are trying to bring the case to the end, that with regard to this direction of kurakhivskyi, it is really difficult, it is complicated due to the fact that there in the direction of hirnyak, such a bag has formed, which is really quite difficult, and there it is necessary... everything so that the enemy does not go to hornyak, because part of our troops will be surrounded, so now we need such a pretty jewelry work of our command to control the troops, to provide the troops, so that if we see that the enemy will still push and move towards gornyak , it will be necessary

align this arc and move away, or the other is a counteroffensive action. which forced the enemy to withdraw to his previous positions in order to break this bag, well, due to the fact that we see that lately it is very difficult for us to level the situation, then i think that we must be careful so that these units do not fall in the encirclement, that ’s why it’s true, but there is another story that the enemy has just moved forward here in this direction, somewhere there he has a width of 2. km along the entire front, he has such a ledge, it turned out, and it is positive that you can to assess that the enemy does not have the ability to immediately conduct an offensive on all this, at least in several directions, the fact that he stopped there a little in the pokrovsky direction, and here , even on this mountain, we already have this salient there for probably a week or more, and they

can't close it, it means that they still don't have enough forces to attack in several directions, they almost gather... forces, then attack in some separate, one direction, and can't have enough reserves now, to develop this one offensive, i think there is a sense in this as well as the course operation, which also supports and withdraws some troops, but i say once again that the situation there is difficult, indeed, against this background, mr. colonel, putin is increasing the russian army, he increased it by his decree the staff strength of the armed forces of the russian federation up to 2,389. the last time the staff number was increased on december 23rd, it was 2,209,130 ​​people, including 1,320,000 military servicemen, taking into account these numbers

and the fact that putin is gradually increasing the size of the armed forces of the russian federation, it seems that he is not going to. to any truce, any peace, to any negotiations with our western partners, not to mention ukraine, because i understand that he wants to create a huge army, as it was during the soviet union , and only then, from a position of strength , simply explain to everyone, on what terms, with whom he will talk, what, what can we and our western partners oppose to this? we have to understand that we talk a lot there about the fact that putin does not want to carry out mobilizations, this fact, now, but if he does, it will be such a mini-catastrophe that we will need to respond to, and with the mobilization rates that we have, we will, let's say,

forcefully respond to the fact that putin is just now recruiting 30,000-40,000 people there a month, who... are there for money, and we somehow oppose them there, and then they push us somewhere, if they mobilize, then it will be necessary to have some measures, measures in order to counteract this in a mirror image, i think there are completely different rules then will begin, because really, really well, if he says, let's give another 300 00, then it will be a serious challenge for our country and for our government, for our command, in order to be able to put something... as for putin, why is he doing it, i think, here we are, we also have a limitation of the army, it is there in 2005, if i am not mistaken. it was like a regular army, of which 215 or 216 are military personnel, we are mobilizing, we do not need to increase

the number of forces by law or decree, by the number of military personnel, putin on the contrary, he is conducting a special military operation, he has mobilized 3,000 of them there, he needs to increase this army so that they can finance it as well. therefore, i think that this is a technical decision in the first place, and it shows that they are ready to increase their army in the future and in order that, well , they have already made a decision, they will be there and they will restore the leningrad military district there on the borders from finland, he is deployed there by other directions, so we must understand that he is increasing the army and we will need to react to it, and it increases both technically and realistically, the legislation adapts to it. mr. colonel, during the last week there were many discussions and expectations regarding the possible decision of our western partners, about the weapons that we could

use on the territory of the russian federation, and a meeting was held between the secretary of state of the united states of america, the foreign minister of great britain and our officials last week , then there was a meeting with the president of the united states of america , biden. and the prime minister of great britain kir starmer, but neither britain nor the united states of america have taken any decision yet, and as the times writes, britain will not allow ukraine to strike the territory of the russian federation without the consent of the united states of america, although last week the guardian wrote that it seems that the decision on storm shadow has already been made. does the lack of information about this decision mean that this decision can be made already or will be made public after

the stormsheds, for example, fly over the territory of the russian federation? well, it's logical, until that that's how it was all the time, i'm also sure that this decision will be made, it's just that delaying this decision now is a grenade, well, in favor of the russian federation, because russia also understands what i think through its channels. enturns and in general that this decision will be made, it gives them the opportunity and we know it, it is to move those targets that they have in the range of 300 km there, and storm shadow and attacks, to move them further to the rear in order to no impression was made, and it's like, well, i don't know, shooting yourself in the foot there, you give permission, delay, then the russians clean up, as if to prevent escalation. it's a bad story, but i 'm sure there will be a solution, well, at least we 'll make it so that they can't pull up, of course there are things that will be difficult for them to transfer, some warehouses with ammunition, there are some aircraft depots, but the main thing is that there

modern there's some technology there, some businesses there, serious aircraft, they're really going to relocate and take it in other directions, or they're going to protect what they have now, and again, i think they know that it's going to be done and now they are working and there is information on how to remove all this from the reach zone. thank you, colonel, for the conversation, it was roman kostenko, colonel of the security service of ukraine, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live there. please subscribe to our pages and vote in our poll. today we ask you about this. would you move to the united states of america or the eu if you had to such an opportunity. let me remind you once again that we are conducting this survey based on

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we will be in touch later. oleksandr khara, diplomat, foreign and security expert of politics, center of defense strategies. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening, mr. sergey. well, the election campaign in the united states of america follows roughly the same scenario: another assassination attempt on trump, the secret service is on the hook again, biden and harris are calling trump and telling him to take care of himself. for our viewers, they may have missed that this assassination attempt was being prepared, was being prepared, well identified, at least as an assassination attempt that took place on the territory of the golf club in in florida, near the place where trump, the candidate for the presidency of the united states of america, was found a k-47 machine gun with an optical sight, two backpacks and gopro cameras, the american and international media

recognized this person as ryan. wesley raut, who fervently supported ukraine in the war with russia, came to kyiv and tried to join the international legion. so, mr. oleksandr, in this whole story, what seems strange to you is that rayyan was in ukraine and used an ak-47 with an optical sight here and it seems that one way or another the ukrainian topic, or the topic which, which on... is trying to be tied to ukraine with this attempt, how does it look to you, does it look strange? well, first of all, ukraine became an internal political factor of the usa from the 16th year, and then the russian special services did a good job of tying up some ukrainian oligarchs, if they supported hilary clinton, and if we hacked into the servers of the

national democratic commission and the republics. but for some reason only democratic documents were made public and so on, of course, the trumpians, supporters of trump , have something to base their mistrust of ukraine on, and sometimes their hatred of ukraine. it is clear that this person is definitely not an agent of the central intelligence agency or any other special services, and there has already been a rebuttal from the international legion that... they have no relation to this person, by the way, there was an interview sometime in june with this person, and in fact it was determined that he has mental problems and that he is very often in a coma and is not able to do anything serious on support for ukraine, but such a person, our struggle was close to him, and he tried, at least verbally, to support

what is now... the trumpians will use it, since ukraine is such a whipping boy, it is absolutely understandable. some, in particular those who are accused of connections with rasha today, are already saying that it is necessary to investigate the ukrainian trail and probably simply that the ukrainians will not hate trump and therefore, let's say, planned this operation, it is clear that all this is a hoax, but of course, that it will not be unpleasant, so the situation for... c media in social media, in relation to ukraine. of course, this all looks very, especially after, the second debate, or rather, the first debate for kamala harris, the second debate for the democratic candidate, and especially after this joke that actually targeted trump for saying that haitians like dogs, and the video is just gorgeous , i advise you to watch him in tikto

or in... i think it's in a way the popularity and the second thing he tweeted that he hates is such a famous popular singer with millions of admirers, well, of course, what can play such a negative role on it, and then this castle, of course, that now all the media are talking about it, and the most important thing is that the trumpians from... see the democrats in such a, you know, goebbelsian way, they say, they have once again carried out the trump coup, that is, it is as if there is some center controlled by the democrats, sending the people to kill the candidate who is supposed to bring greatness to america. against this background, mr. oleksandr, a meeting took place, well , actually, not on the same day.