mr. oleksandr, i am not your profile topic, but still we all understand in which country we live, we all see how customs officers live in the west, in the west of ukraine, it is not bad, in principle, we understand that they probably do not have such big salaries, that they can afford what they can afford, well, as for avoiding customs, you know, it's better than... never, the point is that if it wasn't, it would always be, you can ask the question that you are now asking, why wasn't this done before, why not they did during the time of the previous president or another president and so on, but the main thing is that they did it, and this is a positive signal, it is good, and it must be said that according to experts' estimates, up to uah

150 billion a year... at the customs office, money is being laundered from the budget, because it is actually unpaid taxes, or the goods are not properly registered, or it is some kind of bribe for the customs clearance of some goods, ms. oksano, how to overcome this difficult situation at the customs office, well, they will reset it, we already have a large anti-corruption program. infrastructure in ukraine, when it was passed into law in the verkhovna rada, i remember they said that we have the best anti-corruption legislation in europe, there will be no corruption, but how much has passed already, mr. rostislav, eight years or a year, if i am not mistaken, these were approved, but well , but, regarding the application of laws, we always have some question, it will be the same with the customs, well, you know, really... there will be fixed

death certificates, even customs fees, nothing will change, the signs on the offices will change , the persons who will occupy some will change positions, some of the opportunities and ways to get back to the places where they used to work for years, because they know how it was before, everything depends on the goals, on the control that... the state actually sets itself in terms of control at the customs office, so that it would all be transparent, in order to at least somehow resolve the issue, to try at least a little to overcome something that no one has ever overcome, this is smuggling, and accordingly, corrupt actions at the customs office also begin, really everything will depend on how much i i really want to do it state, won't there be someone who will give us beautiful slogans, we will vote with... laws, they will be very good, as you

said, the best, the question is who will implement them and who will be those who will try to live by by these laws and not to violate them, therefore it is good that the law has been voted, now the most important thing that remains is control, and that these reforms take place when people come who really observe the law, do not report to someone... you know, where travel in kyiv with some suitcases, and then, or trunks, i'm sorry, with money, and then i hope that we will have a really real addition to the state budget. mr. rostyslav, oleksandr mireshko reprimanded that under other presidents, such a situation was at the customs, and not only at the customs, and we remember how the then presidential candidate zelensky asked at the olimpiyskiy national sports complex. to president poroshenko,

why do his friends have two hands, they say, why, if, if they are stealing, why didn't they cut off those hands, if you had the opportunity now to ask president zelensky at nsc olimpiyskiy, what would you like to ask him, similar or different, well, look, first of all, it's easy to ask, and now, in fact, here is the entire list of questions, volodymyr. i can address myself, and here and there we talk about the covid war and so on, we heard about just the big various constructions, big initiatives for the first time about billions of trees there and so on, but we did not see any reform things, i would instead talk about more specific things, and about severed hands, you know, there was 5 years to prove, name me who has been proven at least something. among these loud

things that were attempted when they came to power and the current team, starting with petro poroshenko and all those who were said to be proven criminals, where are the cases, where are the verdicts, where are the results, well , obviously, it was exaggerated, and we remember how the media worked then, there was not just freedom of speech, but there was a certain fashion to say different things to the authorities and not think about how true they are, but i would say because and you, mr. serhiu, here is mr oleksandr, they said that the predecessors were there, what was being done, the customs office is only part of a rather wide complex. and this anti-corruption infrastructure is only a third of the way to fight, because it is only tracking, controlling and punishing those who violate, and when hand washes hand, then it is necessary to break these dirty schemes, and the first thing that was done, for example, was automatic

vat refund, the lion's share of the schemes rests on what is exported, what is imported with money from value added tax, and when it ... was introduced in automatism, just as revenues increased and customs clearance issues fell, well, unfortunately, it was stopped after the 19th year. the second story is the unification of the tax and customs registers, it was a difficult issue, because we have been making money on it for decades, it was already brought to mind and also, well, unfortunately, it does not work like that now, although almost already should give results. the third is precisely... the context of european integration, when joint work with our europeans from neighboring states, it would be possible to simplify the processes and make with their transparency, the work was also brought to a fairly significant level, and then, apparently

, the hands did not reach, because we had to do something very important and, unfortunately, now in many respects we have rolled back almost to the starting point there on the 16th-17th a year ago... today, i can say so, there is such a second attempt, yes, we went through the corrected version, through the appointment, through the competition commissions, the involvement of international advisers, we will see how it will work, but this is the last thing i would like to say, still i would still urge colleagues to pay attention to the fact that what has been done should not be discarded just because another team did it, or then, together with personnel cleansing and together with the work of the anti-corruption infrastructure, it will give results. yes, thank you mr. rostislav, i will remind our viewers that we are live and conduct a survey throughout our broadcast, we ask you this, would you move to the united states of america or the eu, if you had the opportunity, yes, no, on youtube and facebook everything is quite simple when

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this will happen after september 25, when the un general assembly begins. mr. oleksandr, do you know the content of this document, or have you seen a draft of it? document, because since this is not just zelensky's victory plan, it is a victory plan for ukraine and ukrainians, so i, as a ukrainian, for example, am interested in knowing what is in this victory plan? well, i don't see a plan, but there is a formula of president zelenskyi, which has a very specific nature. if it is specifically about this plan of victory, then i am not sure that it should be brought to the general public. perhaps... well , only the circle of our allies, partners, on whom assistance to ukraine depends, has the right to know about this plan, the details of this plan, that is, it is possible that even there are some secret things that should not be brought out so that

the enemy did not know, for example, did not take advantage of this knowledge, that is, i am very careful about spreading the word, well, let's say, about openness of this plan, well, you speak very briefly, but i would like to understand, since you are a representative of the presidential team. er, is there any other plan b, conditionally speaking, because judging by the information that i read, and listen to, and read, it looks like there is a victory plan, the basis of which is based on the support of the united states of america, ukraine, but i don't understand what will happen if we don't have this support, which is obvious in this plan of victory, but no... we won't have it, that is, will we have another plan of victory, or is there plan b if there is a plan a? well, we still don't know

the details of plan a, and how can we talk about plan b, but some things are really on the surface, that is, it is about the need to obtain modern weapons in sufficient quantity and of sufficient quality, starting with anti-aircraft defense of long-range missile systems actions, that is. atacoms, for example, patriot systems and so on. that is, in order to win the war, you need to have, well, a kind of even parity, one might say, if we are talking about weapons. that is, such things, it seems to me, well, they are generally known. regarding your question, if, for example, there is a problem with the supply of weapons from the united states, well, first of all, i do not believe that. i am sure that this is the national interest of the united states, there are many arguments in favor of the fact

that the united states should support ukraine, because at least, well, there was a recent study by american authors, by the way, and the main conclusion that these authors reached is that it will be much more expensive for the united states if ukraine will lose in this war, that is, even from the point of view of economic expediency, rationality. it is necessary to support all kinds of ukraine right now so that it wins. if we talk about some kind of conditional plan b regarding the provision of military-technical assistance, then let's not forget that there are 300, at least, in fact much more, at least 300 billion dollars of russian sovereign assets in europe, that is, we must use these resources. i am sure that the event will find... different, maybe even creative options, regardless of who will be

the president of the united states in order to help ukraine. thank you, mr. oleksandr, ms. oksana, tell me, well, we are talking about this victory plan, obviously we all want this victory, and obviously we all want to go to the borders of 1991, and we want russia to withdraw its troops from the territory of ukraine, and... in principle, the war that is going on in ukraine is a people's war, because if it were not for the ukrainian people, and if it were not for the efforts of many layers of the people, not just the armed forces of ukraine, and volunteers, and ordinary people ukrainians who help finance the army, and many, many people who take indirectly, and those who are at the front, those who indirectly help to fight. ukrainians, this is a people's war, in the conditions of this people's war, do you understand why

this victory plan, well, relatively speaking, is written only in one center, perhaps the verkhovna rada should be involved in this victory plan, is it correct from the point of view in view of the state, state secrets and secrets, so as not to upset this plan again. mogi, what do you really think of this? well, as they say, we all know it is a very good saying that if you want peace, prepare for war, so when we are really going to have peace sooner or later, we are forced to continue not only to prepare for war, because we are already at war, but to continue to actively build up our inner strength in order to to keep the defense, and then the question of the future peace talks will take place according to... the best scenario for ukraine, unfortunately, it so happened that we are not the only ones, as a country, an independent

player, we will be sitting at this table, we will be a part of, e- eh, those big players of this world who will also decide partly our fate, no matter how unfortunate it sounds, but that is how it is, and of course, today we hear from our allies that they will exclusively... support the position of ukraine, but they can in different ways, for example , to push us to do something, for example, by allocating less funds for... for the internal support of our articles protected there or etc. we can't provide guaranteed payments there, we have such a big propaganda e-e history in the sense that many ee many

different people today are not always engaged in mm... those who we were in the same 22nd year, we have a lot of disunity, and this is also used by many people, so what is the plan what you asked, you know, at this stage, i'm not sure what it is, that there is any such plan, that it should be made public, even i, believe me, i'm not ready to tell you what i think about it right now it is necessary to speak, because there are still so many questions, and indeed a great deal will be decided after the united elections of the states and these negotiations will continue, so for the time being, in order for our positions to be strong, we must continue to internally clench our fists and maintain defense, both for the rear, and for every citizen, and for the army, the army, and the people in general, because this really a people's war. thank you, ms. oksana, mr. rostislav, you were the director

of the national institute for strategic studies, and it is obvious. similar plans or similar initiatives were also developed, do you understand how, on what principles these plans are built, can you say whether should ukraine have several plans for victory, or several plans of action, how, how does it all happen, how did it happen with your participation, and what exactly can ukrainians expect from these plans? thank you, well, first of all, i would warn the authorities against... something being written by a very narrow circle of five or six managers, as president zelensky once said, because such plans are not prepared by narrow circles or even with the involvement of two three close expert advisers, each such plan has a part that determines what each specific authority does, there is a part that

concerns the parliament, there is a part that concerns the government, and you always ask how it was with us, we had a parliamentary ... form, where even president poroshenko was not ashamed to come, telling the things that the deputies needed to know , the leaders of the factions, actually such leading representatives of the committees, and then, by the way, it was easier to fight the russian enemy, when we could talk about it on tv and so on, but after receiving clear information, the representatives of different political forces could work together on the international topics, international venues and not blind, co...believers, because you know, you can also mention barbecues, you can also mention the peace summit, we were also told not to worry, we know better, and then it turned out that it is better and and they did not know and would have preferred to listen to those who said that it should be done differently, therefore it was necessary to hold, if not a closed session of the parliament, then at least a meeting of the president with representatives of the factions, talking about these

things before it is presented to international partners, if only because so that everyone knows pigs. and if only because ms. oksana is very correctly and timely mentioned the beginning of the full-scale invasion and the unity at that time, but it was based on the fact that we understood that we were all in the same boat, and now it turns out that someone is telling, we know better here, although again there is evidence that that they don't really know, take our word for it, although, well, again , there are too many testimonies that it is better to know, and for all of us, for citizens, for the country, it would be better if it were presented, talked about, calculated scenarios if something goes wrong, but then you can talk with the americans, and by the way, i will say the last thing, by the way, and the conversation with partners will be on a completely different level, and there will be much more trust and respect for such a plan, if all the main political forces are behind it, if it is behind there is a parliament,

if it is behind it, well, now they do not want a unity government, although i am convinced that we will come to it anyway, but come on... everyone who knows something about this subject is behind it, and so, when, you know, five or six managers brought something, well, i'm sorry, i'm afraid it will be like that idol, as well as the peace summit and kebabs on maida. thank you, mr. rostislav, but you mentioned partners, of course, we are now watching how the presidential campaign unfolds in the united states of america, and there has already been a debate, probably the first and the last between trump and harris, because trump is talking about , that he is... as if he won and as a champion, he should not go out again for some kind of duel and who is there, but what trump is saying, trump is saying that he can... get along with russia and with china and very quickly, in an interview he gave to blogger farooq samrad sarmad on the x platform, he said, i

don't know if they are enemies, meaning china and russia. i think we will get along perfectly with china, i think we will get along perfectly with russia, russia will settle this situation, well, trump uses similar rhetoric regarding ukraine, that he will do everything in order to stay there for the rest of the day. russia's war against ukraine is over, mr. oleksandr, do you have a vision of what or whether ukraine should give preference to any one presidential candidate, given that one of the candidates definitely sympathizes with ukraine a lot and will continue the policy currently pursued by joseph biden. well, for now, i'm convinced, there's no need to give preference to either. of the candidates, because we don't know who will win, and for me that's the strength of democracy, the unpredictability when we can't say who will become the president of the most powerful

country in the world, and at the same time, we have to, well, wait, i think, for the election results and prepare for any option, find appropriate arguments, but the point is that it is not necessary to pay special attention to the rhetoric of any of the candidates, because this is an election campaign, there are laws of the genre, for example, trump has a kind of image that he cultivates, supports, this is the image of a person, a businessman, a businessman who can do, as he even has a book called that, as oborudkil did not want to say, yes, that is, he can reach an agreement with anyone, and he cultivates this image, but this is the front part. what i think, one should look not at the candidates' rhetoric, but at their actions, especially when one of them will become the president of the united states, then it will become clear what the plan is, if

there is even a plan for the new president or president regarding ukraine, that is, for now we have to understand one simple thing, we are very vulnerable right now in the sense that, you know, it is important for us not to spoil relations of these candidates, we will work with whoever wins, and it is very important for us to delicately work around some issues, appreciating and supporting the bipartisan support of the united states, in fact it is, the majority of both republicans and democrats are supported, ukraine, this is an extremely important issue, we have a lot of friends both in the american congress and in the white house, and it is important that... this remains, that this support remains, we need to work on this and have a dialogue with both candidates, but not to favor or

support either of them. thank you, mr. oleksandr, ms. oksana, what do you think about the rumors that are happening there now, this discussion, have you followed the discussion between trump and haris regarding ukraine? well, you know, these elections are very intense in america, and after them watching, i am... not only ukraine, well, it goes without saying, it is important for us that the elections are over, and the candidate who wins said the most important thing, that support for ukraine will continue, this support will be quite fast, it will not stop , it will be financial, it will also be armed, but who will really win today in the united states, we do not know, it will be decided by the american people, even... those representatives of ukraine, the ukrainian diaspora, who today lives in the states, she too is divided in its views, and there are some ukrainians who sympathize with the democrats, there are also

those who sympathize with the republicans, so we will see, it is very important that ukraine is really at the center of this discussion, which means that we are still on the agenda of the world, the most... countries, our war, and therefore it is very important that indeed our international partners and we together with you, giving us effective and fast weapons, help us to reach various plans, including the peace plans that we will discuss, because this is very key, so i hope we are with we will really be wise here, patient, we will do our work, but what is also very important, today is the information campaign, russia is muffled by the fact that they are massively financing propaganda against ukraine today, whitewashing themselves, and we are not...

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